"I hope that all decent people will support her efforts to live as a free human being"

Since a lot of people have been raising doubts about the veracity of Shakila, the Liberated One, I thought it might be helpful for me to write a note at her site:

I just got off the phone with Shakila, the Liberated One, and we agreed that it would be helpful, at least for people of good will, for me to add a note here affirming her veracity. I'm not concerned about jihadis, Islamic supremacists and jihad enablers who will not be satisfied by anything I say, but since people on the side of freedom have raised questions, it seemed worthwhile to address a few concerns that have been raised.

First, Shakila has posted a large amount of personal information here, leading some to be worried about her safety, and others to wonder why she is so apparently unconcerned about making personal information public even though she says she is in a country where she could be arrested or killed for her apostasy if discovered. In fact, while the information she has given about her life situation is generally accurate, she has changed small details so as to avoid detection.

However, I have not only spoken with her on the phone. I have seen her resume, have her address, seen her photograph, and have other details about her situation that have not been and are not going to be made public....

There is more.

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Thanks Robert. I think this extra confirmation was important.

Liberated,

I apologize if I caused offense with my expressions of some doubts and concerns about verification. I wish you all the best in your work and in your journey forward.

I never doubted. I know Robert well enough from personal experience to know that he is no fool.

Liberated - keep your chin up! You don't realize it yet, but you have become a part of history. Robert is destined to become a great historical figure, and you are right there with him.

All the best of luck to you. You couldn't have chosen to contact a better person, in more ways than you can imagine.

Good for Shakila -- those who threaten and persecute her so that she can't even express her convictions openly deserve to be deceived and circumvented in any manner she can invent. She must do everything necessary to deny them any opportunity to exercise their control even more than they do now. Also, so that she can communicate freely with people here and elsewhere who will support her right to be free. Details about exactly where she lives or what she does or what language she speaks are immaterial.


I would never have even doubted Ali Sina to start off with, in any case. Ex-Muslims can't possibly live the way they would like to in those circumstances. Wanting to openly speak up about the horrors of Islam is courageous enough, as far as I am concerned.

All praise to Shakila !

Robert - "Shakila is real and is telling the truth, as the estimable and courageous Ali Sina can also attest."

Welcome on board Shakila. I can trust Roberts and Ali Sina's judgement 100 %. They both live a severely stressed life because they expose Islam.

Robert, if you guys are finding a safe place for her to live, does that mean she will expose herself to be a apostate of Islam? That also implies she will have to leave her family that she appears to be so attached to, right?

Hallo to you liberated ….I feel for you and I am with …I like to have a dialogue with you so we share our experiences with each other …I hope so [ I have to worn you ..My english is not great being foreign to it].
I have read your blogs and I wanted to tell you that I cried the whole time I read your words …they match mine ...your torn feelings …your shame …your bewilderment …your sadness and your relieve for leaving Islam ….I understand you my dear …even I do not know you but I know what you are going through …I want to tell you …IT WILL BE all right …just**BE** for now.
I have tried to post on your website and I was unsuccessful.
I like to talk to you about my story of apostasy wish somewhat similar to yours maybe that might help …I know reading your story gave much better understanding.
I am Syrian American ax Muslim women,I live in the US
My arranged marriage was the cause for me to be here which in a positive way, was the best thing that ever happen to me.
I left islam 3 years ago, after I have gone through miserable personal experience that made me put on my CRITICAL eye lenses and I took a hard look to Quran and the result was leaving, not because I wanted to, it is because I had to …I was repulsed to the core.
What was strange, that I had studied Quran all my life, except when I was taught we learned to except and love every word as truth …we were brain watched to never think of doubting Quran. …what a joke on us …huh.
My main problem with Quran was 4/34 the Aya where Allah/Muhammad tells Muslim to beat their wives when they disobey and that devastated my family's life because my father obeyed his Allah and he practiced that on us to the point of damage body and soul …and was not strict Muslim any way….after I left Islam I found the heart to forgive him ..but I never had the chance to tell him, he died long before I left Islam …Leaving Islam made me softer and a lot more forgiving.

continue in the next post




Is Shakila for real? Or is she fake?
An apostate, or not an apostate? That is the question...

But WHY such an important question??

And why is it of such importance to also accuse the likes of Wafa Sultan, Walid Shoebat, Rifqa Bary or Ayyaan Hirsi of being frauds? Is EVERY ex-Muslim a fraud? Are countries which spawn masses of homicide bombers, rapists, paedophiles, drug dealers incapable of spawning converts to other religions?

Seems that is the scenario that Muslims want us to believe, and not the alternative- that Shakila and other "ex-Muslims" are for real.

Let readers be the judge, bearing in mind the laws and situation of Muslim countries, and decide who's right: The Shakilas, or the sweet-talking Muslims?

Green infidel - I don't think you or me are in any position to judge that. I trust Robert and Ali Sina's judgement on that. However, we have a apostate called "fineliving56". she appear to confirm her experience to Shakila's.

We already been through the hoops of "if she is real?". Of course till you meet her she is not real. If you want to take that logic then no body is real, Robert is not real ... you are not real (only you know that).

Lets stop speculating, give her our full support. She needs it more than any of us.

Thanks Robert.
Of course there are those who will never be convinced.
That's their problem.
Happy new year to all Jihad Watchers!

Continue from my last post ...

Liberated one

When I left Islam I was so angry I made the mistake of announcing my apostasy to my family and I named Muhammad every dad name there is [ I used Arabic words ..they are satisfying..my husband was in chock he never heard me say any of them..:-) ]
I caused an uproar in the house …I was threatened …mentally abused by my husband and daughter …deserted …prevented from seeing my grand babies ..basically mentally disowned …one of my sons came to my defense and stopped the avalanche of abuse.
I learned to stop bringing the subject of Islam I promised to not to do that as long as no one will push me to bracts Islam ….

life has to go on so I let it ….with the act as Islam voided from my head but not from my life because Islam is around me, so I have not the choice, but let it BE around me with the attitude of tolerance towered my Muslim family …declaring war, will be possible only if you left your muslim family not before …while you are with them, you have to learn to tolerate that is all
Do you know what I say now when Muslim women ask me why I have not covered my hair yet, for the hundreds of times,I say "' Insha allah I will but not before Allah gives me the sign…Alhidaya …[means Allah's inspiration ] so... until then, I will not cover''. That usually shot their mouths….I am a little mad of my self that I succumbed to the heavy weight of pressure and their scrutiny, and I cut my long hair to say to them '' here I cut it so you do not have to complain'' …I regret my weakness …but I know that I will never cover my hair, no mater what they say.

I say to you my dear …do not think about it to much …go on with your day to day life, and have your secret happiness that no one could touch …I know I am asking you to have a double life in your head …but so what …who says it should not be …

we change through time and our life has to change with us …but if the people around us do not change with the same rate as us, we just have to do nothing until they change too …or wait for them until something and believe me live is full of surprises and constant change.

A poster who is regular around here, told me once [ he knows who he is]

that we should send love in our thoughts to others whom we do not know and when we do we feel better and also we will get love back in return …and I believe him.

We see things differently when we are young and impatient …but life teaches through time to slow down and fight only the wars we feel we might win …
I want keep writing to you …so please try to be happy
thanks for listening

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I can assure you that Shakila speaks for many. I have met Muslims who told me of their fear of being themselves and of the repercussions of speaking power to truth.

Well, I'm going to stand corrected on this whole affair. I recant my previous position. I was wrong.

Spencer did 3 things:

1. Spoke recently on the phone.
2. Viewed a resume.
3. Saw a photo.
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That's good enough for me, and I appreciate Spencer's gentlemanly effort to assuage some of our, perhaps, well-intentioned, but unfounded paranoia.
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Robert asks us to support her efforts to "live as a free human being"; a noble thing to do, if we are able.

It's another problem, though, frankly, and depends on circumstances outside the scope of the conversation here.

How Shakila deals with her family issues (as part of some dreaded, possible exit from Pakistan)((from other posts on her blog and this site)) is her business, yet for us to help her, she must realize that she must leave if she wishes complete religious freedom.

She can't get it there, and it can't be traded for family members, either, I'm afraid.

God bless her, though, for trying.

Thank you for the assurance re The Liberated One, Mr. Spencer. I had already assumed you had thoroughly vetted her situation.

Of course, we must be cautious—but it is, more than anyone, supremacist Muslims who always cast aspersions on the very idea of anyone leaving Islam—claiming that any apostate must perforce be some sort of fake.

Apostates from Islam need all the support we can give them—this is not any easy thing for them, and is fraught with dangers.

Thanks for continuing to post here and on your own blog, Shakila.

And a Happy New Year to you!

I had never doubted shakila's apostasy. I think there is a little hypocrisy among those JWr’s who distrust her or her motives.
She is an example of a Muslim who truly has seen the light and she is the only hope that other will see the truth like her. In her previous post she did say she was a closeted apostate and she loves her family very much. Good for her. She also mentions that traveling abroad won’t be easy and it would mean giving up the family she loves. I think that’s very brave of her. Staying in a country where apostasy is illegal. She should stay in her country and slowly lead other people to the truth about Muhammad and Islam.
Perhaps one day there will be hundreds and thousand of apostates like her. Perhaps one day there will be another Arab spring but this time it will be called an apostate Arab spring where Islam will be over thrown. She is the hope and an example to all other Muslims

Oops in my last post I forgot to decapitalize the pedophile prophet, his made-up religion and the name of his followers. I didn’t mean to give them any kind respect or legitimacy.

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