Pakistan: Christian girls and women, some already married, abducted and forcibly converted to Islam

The marriages of captives are abrogated, by order of the Qur’an: “And all married women (are forbidden unto you) save those (captives) whom your right hands possess. It is a decree of Allah for you” (4:24).

“There is no compulsion in religion,” according to Qur’an 2:256, but the nature of the “compulsion” is in the eye of the overlord/beholder. There is, in reality, plenty of coercion hardwired into Islamic law, even via Qur’an 9:29, which gives unbelievers the options of conversion, subjugation, or warfare. All options are intended to lead the way to conversion by making life so otherwise intolerable, humiliating, and terrifying as to wear down resistance. But hey, you know, no compulsion or anything. Just “an offer you can’t refuse.”

Often, just to keep things looking good on paper, these women and girls are made to sign under duress (if not while drugged) a document saying they converted of their own free will. Is there “no compulsion” in document signing?

“Choora,” variously spelled “Chura,” or “Choohra,” is a derogatory term. Literally, it means “sweeper,” referring to the menial jobs to which Christians are frequently relegated on account of their faith and the social barriers to their advancement.

Pakistan remains a major recipient of U.S. aid. We have leverage we are not using to help Pakistan’s second class citizens realize their full rights in society, and liberate the abducted and wrongfully imprisoned. “Girls being raped and tortured,” from The News, January 16 (thanks to The Religion of Peace):

“I saw two of my daughters being raped in front of me,” an old lady from Essa Nagri told The News. “It is considered that Chooras have no integrity.” She says that around midnight, men from other areas start gathering in their neighbourhood. “They are usually drunk. They choose which home they will plunder.”

She adds that one night they stormed into her home and raped two of her girls, while she “was locked in another room hearing their cries for help”. “I am a widow without any financial prospects, but I did go to the MPA representing us. What good is he if he can’t do anything to protect us?” The fear to report these cases is such that at first, no one even admits that an incident of rape or torture has taken place.

Forcible conversions

Within the past three months, nine women have been abducted and forcibly converted to Islam. MPA Javed adds that the purpose is not to gain good deeds, but to sell them. A majority of the Christian girls converted are married, he says.

According to reports he received from different areas of the city, the abducted women are later sold to feudal lords in Sindh and Punjab. Citing a recent example, Javed says that in Essa Nagri, a 23-year-old married girl was forcibly remarried to a 60-year-old Muslim man, who was notorious for selling girls.

“Known to be pious, but had a side business of selling Christian girls”:

Javed said that the man was known to be pious, but had a side business of selling Christian girls. He says many people apart from him knew the truth. The only information that the family received was by a phone call through which they were informed by somebody that their girl is in Punjab.

He points out that there is a judgment by the Lahore High Court which clearly states that a “married Christian woman cannot be remarried to a Muslim even if converted,” but these cases do not even go to the police to be challenged in the high courts.

The Qur’an trumps the court ruling.

Brothel beside a church

Ayub Goth, near the Meteorological Department, is another area known for ethnic and religious discord. The Christians living in the area complain that a brothel was recently established right beside a Catholic church in the area.

In the evening women from outside are brought by “some people.” Residents say that these people have enough political clout to ensure that no one dares raise a finger….

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  1. says

    There is forced conversion in Islam, Muslims just don’t call it that.

    They call it “inviting” someone to Islam, and if they refuse “demand from them the Jizya. If they agree to pay, accept it from them and hold off your hands. If they refuse to pay the tax, seek Allah’s help and fight them.”

  2. says

    “In the evening women from outside are brought by “some people.” Residents say that these people have enough political clout to ensure that no one dares raise a finger….

    No doubt this “clout” includes possession of automatic weapons and a willingness to use them without fear of police or military intervention.

  3. says

    “There is, in reality, plenty of coercion hardwired into Islamic law, even via Qur’an 9:29, which gives unbelievers the options of conversion, subjugation, or warfare. All options are intended to lead the way to conversion by making life so otherwise intolerable, humiliating, and terrifying as to wear down resistance. But hey, you know, no compulsion or anything. Just “an offer you can’t refuse.”

    Of course the un=named option is to fight back with every ounce of strength you can muster…

  4. says

    Islam, or Slavery: the cult of rape, kidnapping, pimping and adultery. The cult that says it is not adultery when you seize and rape another man’s wife, so long as she and her husband are not Muslims. It ain’t rape, it ain’t adultery, it’s perfectly halal: because Islam deliberately kills empathy and teaches Muslims to treat non-Muslims as *things*.

    ** I HATE AND DESPISE ISLAM**.

    Note well, everyone: they feel fully entitled to do this sh*t in western countries, as well.

    The majority of the pedophile groom-rape-and-pimp gangs operating in the UK today, preying upon vulnerable British non-Muslim girls (many of those girls being underage or just barely legal) are…PAKISTANI MUSLIMS.

    In Australia, not only did we have ultra-violent gang rapes of young Australian non-Muslim girls, carried out by packs of Lebanese Arab Muslim males; we *also* had gang rapes of young Australian non-Muslim girls, carried out by a gang of *Pakistani* Muslim males (who, once their long sentences in jail are served, should be stripped of the Australian citizenship for which they clearly have nothing but contempt, and be booted out of the country, back to Pakistan, together with their extended families all of whom vociferously supported them in court and hurled the most disgusting abuse at their victims when the girls dared to testify against them).

    Thought for the day: let’s EXPEL, once their sentences are served, all Pakistani Muslim men convicted of the rape and grooming/ pimping of vulnerable non-Muslim girls, in the UK and Australia. Right now, round up and deport, stripped of citizenship, their aiders and abettors and vociferous, shameless supporters – that is, their extended families, many of whom connived in the entrapment and abuse of the girl victims, and their abominable imams, all of whom did diddly-squat to preach against this atrocious behaviour.

    And, having packed all these thugs and their thuggish families back off to Pakistan, lean very hard on the Pakistani authorities and bring into the West, in exchange, the families of these victimised Pakistani Christian girls, and wherever possible, in those cases where the girls have miraculously managed to escape their tormentors/ pimps/ slavemasters, and are now living in hiding, the girls themselves. I call that a fair exchange.

    India could pursue a similar course of action. Boot out of India, togehter with extended family, all Mohammedans caught engaging in ‘marriage jihad’ and the seduction and ‘grooming’, or in many cases, the rape/ blackmail/ terrorising/ drugging/ forced conversion of Hindu girls; and admit into India the persecuted Pakistani Hindus, in particular, those Hindu girls who have managed to escape after being seized and raped and prostituted and fake-‘converted’ by Mohammedan rapist-kidnapper-pimps.

  5. says

    Hi all,

    Here’s proof that Jesus for the pious baltherering by Moslems as an estemmed profit, that his orders aren’t taken seriously.

    Jesus was very clear and explicit that marriage was for life and indissoluable until death. Of course the Moslems will claim that the Bible was corrupted but it’s absolutely impossible to accept such reasoning. Jesus made marriage sacred and consolidated the commandment against coveting your neighbour’s wife and property.

    So can the Moslem apologists possibily explain in a reasonable fashion that captivity dissolves a marriage?

    xavier

  6. says

    Most people seem unaware that there is a bounty of oil money that a Muslim gets for converting a Kafir. I’m not sure of the position today, but I know a case to my personal knowledge which happened in the ‘Eighties. It was in a part of North India. The Muslim journalist enticed a Hindu girl to marry him – of course after converting her and giving her a new Muslim name. This guy then collected a certificate to this effect from his local imam and went with his wife and the certificate to the Jama Masjid, Delhi. There he had to prove that the girl had indeed been a Hindu before he converted her. He was given a sum of forty thousand Indian rupees, which was a tidy sum in those days. This bounty money came out of corpus provided by the pious sheiks of Saudi Arabia for this purpose. This whole dirty secret spilled out because this journalist was wont to drink and babble. (In passing I may mention that this guy’s sister ran off with a Hindu master teaching in a government school. The happy couple got themselves transferred to a far-off place in the remote regions). Oil wealth has only increased since the ’80s, so I should expect this bounty business to be still flourishing, with bigger sums to be “earned”.

  7. says

    Often, just to keep things looking good on paper, these women and girls are made to sign under duress (if not while drugged) a document saying they converted of their own free will. Is there “no compulsion” in document signing?
    …………………..

    The most common thing is to threaten to kill the woman’s family”including her husband if she is married. No “compulsion” there…sarc/off

    More:

    “I saw two of my daughters being raped in front of me,” an old lady from Essa Nagri told The News. “It is considered that Chooras have no integrity.” She says that around midnight, men from other areas start gathering in their neighbourhood. “They are usually drunk. They choose which home they will plunder.”

    She adds that one night they stormed into her home and raped two of her girls, while she “was locked in another room hearing their cries for help”. “I am a widow without any financial prospects…
    …………………..

    *This* is Muslim “morality”. A bunch of drunken louts”never mind that Muslims are not supposed to drink”get together and decide to storm the house of an unprotected widow so that they can *rape her daughters*, and lock her in a room so that she can hear their cries but cannot even try to come to their aid.

    And yet, these vicious thugs and rapists believe that it is the Christians who *have no integrity*.

    God, I hate Islam.

    More:

    “Known to be pious, but had a side business of selling Christian girls”
    …………………..

    Actually, being pious and kidnapping, raping, and selling Christian girls are not in conflict”not for a Muslim, at any rate.

    More:

    Brothel beside a church

    Ayub Goth, near the Meteorological Department, is another area known for ethnic and religious discord. The Christians living in the area complain that a brothel was recently established right beside a Catholic church in the area.

    In the evening women from outside are brought by “some people.” Residents say that these people have enough political clout to ensure that no one dares raise a finger….
    …………………..

    As appalling as this sounds, it is *much worse* than merely setting up a brothel next to the church’since this brothel is likely stocked with *kidnapped Christian girls prostituted against their will*.

    exsgtbrown wrote:

    Of course the un=named option is to fight back with every ounce of strength you can muster…
    …………………..

    I respect your sentiment, exsgtbrown. But Christians make up just an estimate 1.6% of the population of Pakistan. Fighting back wouldn’t earn them any respect”it would just *get them massacred*.

    That the free West, not under such threat”not yet, at any rate”is doing nothing to stand up for these threatened victims is the real Infidel crime”not that young girls and widows are not fighting back against armed Muslim mobs backed by the Islamic state.

  8. says

    Tanstaafl wrote:

    Why kidnap a Christian woman and marry her?

    Go to consang.net and check the map.
    …………………………

    Or, they could just stop marrying their cousins.

    No, the true reason for kidnapping and raping Christian women”especially those who are married”is to humiliate and demoralize the Kuffar, and to show the alleged “superiority” of Islam.

  9. says

    “*This* is Muslim “morality”. A bunch of drunken louts”never mind that Muslims are not supposed to drink”get together and decide to storm the house of an unprotected widow so that they can *rape her daughters.”

    Yes, drinking alchohol is haram, but they make up for this sin, by allah approved rape of non muslim girls. So in the end they come out even.
    I think the west doesn’t care about these chooras (sweeper) class of people. the reason these christians and Hindus are tolerated at all in porkiestan is that they do the dirty jobs no decent muslim would do. This is the same reason the Copts are somewhat tolerated in Egypt. Unfortuntly no matter how low class these people may be, if they have decent looking daughters they are targeted by muslims.

  10. says

    That was certainly the case in Egypt, according to one man who used to be active in seducing/ ‘grooming’/ ‘converting’ Coptic Christian girls and women, but who by the grace of the real God repented and has since spent his time trying to rescue the girls and restore them to their families…and has blown the whistle, comprehensively, on the whole horrid system of entrapment.

    From the ‘leaving islam’ website, the ‘confessions of a former Islamist’.

    http://www.islam-watch.org/LeavingIslam/confessions.htm

    Excerpt:
    “Money was spent lavishly to seduce Christian women and girls any way possible.
    “The cost in the seventies and early eighties was about five thousand Egyptian pounds for the entrapment of each girl.
    “The money was split so that the Muslim man who lured the Christian woman into conversion received half and the members of the police and collaborating associations would receive the other half.
    “The work of the proselytizing associations in Egypt continues to take place and the payments for deceptive conversions are now higher.
    “Today the average payment for an ordinary girl is ten thousand Egyptian pounds and payments can be as high as two hundred thousand Egyptian pounds if the girl is from a well-known Christian family, or is the daughter of a university professor, a deputy minister, or related to someone from the clergy.”

  11. says

    Desidude wrote:

    Yes, drinking alchohol is haram, but they make up for this sin, by allah approved rape of non muslim girls. So in the end they come out even.
    …………………….

    Very true, Desidude. Acts of violent Jihad tip the scale for Muslims, and “atone” for any number of penny-ante “un-Islamic” acts.

    Certainly, other faiths have this basic concept, and it is a secular one, as well”that truly notable deeds can make up for any number of petty personal failings.

    The difference is that in Islam, a Muslim “atones” through acts of utter savagery…

    Have I mentioned how much I hate Islam?

  12. says

    Xavier wrote:

    Hi all,

    Here’s proof that Jesus for the pious baltherering by Moslems as an estemmed profit, that his orders aren’t taken seriously.

    Jesus was very clear and explicit that marriage was for life and indissoluable until death…
    ………………………….

    Xavier, you are referring to the Christian Jesus.

    The “Jesus” Muslims supposedly esteem is the *Muslim Jesus*””Isa”.

    Isa is a *very* different figure from Jesus”he didn’t die on the cross, he didn’t redeem anyone, and his primary role in the last day is to *kill Christians*.

    Muslims pay no attention to the words of Jesus in the gospels. They just co-opted “Jesus” to fool credulous Christians into believing that Islam is the last stage of “Abrahamic faith”.