If there's an app for that, it is surely haram. This item was broadcast in October, but is currently highlighted at MEMRI's home page. "Saudi Cleric Sa'd Bin Al-Shathari: It Is Forbidden to Pray to Allah to Place Steve Jobs in Paradise," from MEMRI, October 8, 2011:
Interviewer: There is a great deal of interest in the death of Steve Jobs, the founder and owner of Apple and its former CEO. I'd like you to comment on two matters. First, is it permissible to be sad over the death of an infidel? Second, is it permissible to ask for Allah's mercy for an infidel? There was a lot of debate on Twitter and Facebook about this.Sa'd Bin Al-Shathari: With regard to being sad, it is not something within one's volition. One does not decide to become sad, and therefore, there is no ruling about it in Islamic law.
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As for asking for Allah's mercy [upon an infidel], if a person prays for Allah to alleviate the torments of someone close to him, or for Him to ignore some of his sins – that's permissible too. But to pray for Allah to have mercy upon him or place him in Paradise – that is forbidden....
The imam should have pointed out to him that Steve was a murtadd, and therefore, praying for his soul was out of the question.
While I disagreed w/ some of Steve Jobs' views - his anti-military stances, his support to Libs in general, he at least had it right as far as Muslims went. In one conversation about the Syrian uprising, he said about intervening 'We're f'ed if we do, and we're f'ed if we don't'.
The stuff about his Syrian 'heritage' is irrelevant, since he was brought up all his life as an American, and as far as religion went, he went from Atheist to Buddhist. Never Muslim!
Steve Jobs and others really highlight how idea poor those regions are.
One would have to first seek permission - to present an original thought.
And that is why those regions are so underdeveloped and likely will remain so.
For example, with the oil revenue or natural gas, the Saudis can purchase skills from the idea rich regions. And have whatever they want built.
But just go to the next country and the next and the picture looks very different.
In those countries you are given a platter of things to think about and engage in, in debate, Israel, the US.... And everything else is forbidden or must be passed through a sieve so fine - likely nothing like the original idea will come out of the other side.
Life in these places, is centered around all knowledge originating in the Koran - but the phones and computers they use leaves them at a loss.
Some no doubt, can suggest ways to move on, but the religion, under pain of death or other coercion, requires that they repeat the same failed action again and again.
That's why there are no Muslim Steve Jobs - coming from those regions at least. There is the belief that development comes from the religion, so they spend almost all of their efforts and devote much of their thought to develop and embellish their religion - for centuries - when the genius of development was always man-made.
The Islamic world represents the stagnation of ideas.
Only the most stupid and inhuman ideology would claim that great men go to hell just because they are non-believers. Muslims must believe that all the deceased great scientists, artists, musical composers, and inventors of the infidel world are burning in hell?
Islam is an inhuman evil that poisons the mind. And we are supposed to respect it and respect Muslims?
YOU CANNOT PETITION ALLAH WITH PRAYER!!!
mean while every f... saudi has an Iphone!!!
"Is it permissible to be sad over the death of an infidel?"
That someone could even ask that is truelly shocking.
What do you think would happen to Chris Mattews if he asked someone if it is ok to be sad about the death of a black person?
I thought at first that it was a gotcha question meant to expose the interview subject as a jerk but upon reading the passage again it is clear that it wasn't.
That being said, in the last paragraph, about praying for allah to allow non muslims into paradise: "[upon an infidel]" is in brackets, meaning Memri added the inference. Without "[upon an infidel]", the statment is a general pronouncement upon weather muslims can pray to their god to grant ANYONE into paradise or to be given MERCY.
I don't know if that's true but it is how it reads without the added words in brackets.
So can someone answer weather this is true? Can muslims pray for their god to allow other muslims into paradise or to be given spiritual mercy?
And I assume alleviating earthly suffering is different from granting mercy, which must be mean spiritual mercy.
But I'm not suprised. If muslims are too bigoted to be able to stand non muslims in the same countries as they, they certainly wouldn't want them in the same afterlife.
According to Sa'd Bin Al-Shathari, the cleric quoted in this transcript, muslims CAN petition their god.
While I am at it I shall pat myself on the back for being able to type using both capital AND lower case letters. Apparently it's a very difficult thing to do. It became much easier to do so after I stopped using my forehead to type.
muslims believe that they are the only ones going to paradise. where this comes from is that muhamad said he was the last messnger of god and hence Islam was/is the last right religion that god dispathced. since non muslims are going to paradise, what he is saying is muslims can not ask god for non muslims to go to paradise. only muslims!!! does this make any sense?
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How about praying to the one true God that He would have mercy on YOU! ...and I don't mean allah: the god of the underworld.
Poor infidels, tortured by snakes and dragons in their graves!!!
O nation whose ignorance makes the nations of the world laugh!
http://crossmuslims.blogspot.com/2011/08/torments-of-grave.html
{إِنَّ رَحْمَتَ اللَّهِ قَرِيبٌ مِّنَ الْمُحْسِنِينَ}
"Verily, the Mercy of Allah is among those who are doers of good."
{وَهَٰذَا كِتَابٌ أَنزَلْنَاهُ مُبَارَكٌ فَاتَّبِعُوهُ وَاتَّقُوا لَعَلَّكُمْ تُرْحَمُونَ}
"And this is the Book we have revealed, blessed. Therefore, follow it and fear Allah that you will be among those who attain mercy."
Saudi cleric: No praying for Allah to have mercy on Steve Jobs' soul
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What an ugly creed Islam is...
Infidel Pride wrote:
The imam should have pointed out to him that Steve was a murtadd, and therefore, praying for his soul was out of the question.
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IP, Jobs was only a Murtadd in the most conceptual sense—his father *was* Muslim, albeit of the unobservant sort—but Steve was *never* raised Muslim, even as a small child.
His biological mother wasn't Muslim, and his adoptive family was *Armenian*. For all the nattering about Jobs' "Syrian heritage", it is his adoptive parents and his growing up in a Bay Area college town that gave him his curiosity and sense of possibilities.
It has often been noted that there is no Muslim Steve Jobs—indeed, there couldn't be. If he had actually grown up in Syria—while not the absolute worst of Muslim states—he would have had his spirit crushed by Islam, rather than having gone on to found the personal computer revolution.
Well, if this was all there was to devout Islam, I wouldn't quibble. This here Christian thinks that the souls of the dead, if in Heaven, have no need of our prayers, while those in Hell are beyond the help of our prayers. Luke 16:26 says there is a great gulf fixed, and apparently one that God will not bridge. Hence, let's pray for those who haven't yet been summoned to judgment (including our posterity), for that's where our prayers help others and glorify God.