Nine. There's that number again. Now, everyone knows only the greasiest of greasy Islamophobes retail the notion that the practice of marrying girls as young as nine has something to do with Muhammad marrying Aisha when she was six and consummating the marriage when she was nine, and he was six times her age at fifty-four. So, all of these people continuing the practice in the remotest, most undeveloped areas Afghanistan and Yemen out of Islamic piety must actually be reading American or European blogs, right?
Wrong. For example, there is Sahih Bukhari 7.62.88: "The Prophet wrote the (marriage contract) with 'Aisha while she was six years old and consummated his marriage with her while she was nine years old and she remained with him for nine years (i.e. till his death)."
It is Islam's own texts and traditions that cause the practice to persist in places far removed from one another, and to appear where it had previously been unimaginable -- for example, Britain. "Islington girls forced into marriage at the age of nine," by Pavan Amara for the Islington Tribune, January 27:
An alarming number of under-age girls – some as young as nine – are being forced into marriage in Islington, according to a leading campaign group.The Iranian and Kurdish Women’s Rights Organisation (IKWRO) claim that at least 30 girls in the borough were forced into marriage in 2010.
The practice was condemned by the Imam of Finsbury Park Mosque, who said such marriages were against Islam and “unacceptable”.
He pledged to invalidate any marriage which he said were carried out by “back-street Imams”.
IKWRO, which made headlines last month when they revealed there had been almost 3,000 “honour-based” violence cases in 2010, has shown the Tribune records which revealed at least three 11-year-old girls and two nine-year-olds had been forced into marriage with older men within Islington. The oldest girls involved were 16.
They have warned that hundreds of Islington girls could be suffering sexual, emotional and physical scars as a result of the child marriages every year and are calling for teachers, social workers and police to be better trained to spot and manage the abuse.
Information from the Ministry of Justice, following a Freedom of Information request, revealed that 32 Forced Marriage Protection Order applications were made for children under 16 in Britain last year.
Six of these were made for under-16s within Islington at the Royal Courts of Justice, although these were not necessarily made for Islington residents.
At the Islington court, “five or fewer” orders were made to protect children between the ages of 9-11.
The orders are a form of injunction that threaten legal punishment if marriage takes place due to emotional or physical force.
In most cases, the children fear they will be killed if they reveal the truth to anybody, while others believe they will be separated from their families and taken into social services’ care.
Dianna Nammi, director of IKWRO, explained that the girls are married in a mosque’s sharia court. This means they are not legally married according to British law, rendering the Home Office unable to recognise or prove the abuse.
“They are still expected to carry out their wifely duties, though, and that includes sleeping with their husband,” she said.
“They have to cook for them, wash their clothes, everything. They are still attending schools in Islington, struggling to do their primary school homework, and at the same time being practically raped by a middle-aged man regularly and being abused by their families. So they are a wife, but in a primary school uniform.
That's not being "practically" raped. The practice will diminish when the law comes after the "husbands" and families with the force with which they would pursue child molesters and human traffickers. This is rape, and it is human trafficking.
“The reason it doesn’t get out is because they are too terrified to speak out, and also the control their families have over them is impossible to imagine if you’re not going through it. The way it is covered up is so precise, almost unspeakable.”Ms Nammi said that one 13-year-old had to sneak out of a maths lesson to contact the group, because she was being monitored so closely by her family.
“Her teacher didn’t notice because she said she’d gone to the toilet, but when she got home that day she was beaten,” she said.
“Her father knew she hadn’t been in maths because he had sent an uncle to spy on who she was talking to through the classroom window.”
Ms Nammi said that the girls are married off to family friends or family members to stop them from losing their virginity to anyone not chosen by their father.
As young as nine. Heaven knows they're all going to become wild party animals at age 10.
However, the incentive is also often financial.
The financial aspect supports the human trafficking angle:
“The girl automatically becomes her husband’s property, so he takes financial responsibility for her,” said Ms Nammi.“In fact, often the husband has to start contributing to the girl’s family, so it becomes a way of bringing in another salary.
“Who are girls going to tell? Often they feel like teachers at school won’t understand what their families are like. They will think they’re like Western families, and won’t understand that if they pass on anything at all that they’ve been told to the family, then the girl will be killed. So they just chose not to tell at all.”....
This is just one of the saddest and sickest things that I have seen today.
I wonder how many trolls we'll get today proclaiming that this "has nothing to do with islam". We'll point out the example of their "perfect man", (all of which they should have gotten from reading the article), and they'll continue to deny and obfuscate.
This cancer in our midst must be eradicated. Does anyone know whether or not the UK has mandatory reporting laws for teachers, physicians, etc? What about for religious clergy? When we begin to prosecute the perpetrators, giving them serious prison-time, we'll begin to see a change in this trend.
"The practice was condemned by the Imam of Finsbury Park Mosque, who said such marriages were against Islam and “unacceptable”."
Half right. It's unacceptable but it's not against Islam. Taqqya for image.
I have a nine-year old. If anyone touches her, I will make sure that his life will be non-existent or behind bars.
No man at anytime in history who, when in middle age had sexual intercourse with a nine-year old girl, has any business founding a religion. Neither should anyone with sense consider such a man the Model Man for all males to emulate through the ages. This action alone by Mohammed is reason enough to have no high regard for him, but add to this his many other sexual desires, including one for his daughter-in-law, Zaynab (conveniently, oh so conveniently, Mohammed was never denied any desire by Allah), and his bloodthirsty "career" whereby thousands were killed on his orders, including some six hundred men from the Banu Qurayza tribe in one day, and only the confused, malevolent or ignorant can continue to esteem this seventh-century immoral Bedouin.
Destroy Mohammed, as he so richly derves to be destoryed, and you destroy Islam. Islam cannot last if Mohammed is seen for what he really was. If Mohammed goes, Islam goes.
Ban Islam.
If anyone knows of another solution I'd like to hear it.
It's astounding that the iman actually denounced the practice. I bet he won't be around much longer?
And I'll come and help you!
Muhammed invented the sock puppet, didn't you know? Can you guess what his name was? A clue, five letters beginning with A, and two syllables.
This is not just happening in the UK.
From a January 18, 2012 article by Dave Gaubatz, "Muslim Children in America are Being Taught to Hate"
"One young 7 year old Muslim girl at Al Farooq talked to our researcher about being beaten (MP3 file) by her Islamic leaders and being married (MP3 file) to a Muslim man. I reported the matter to the Nashville authorities but almost from the beginning they were reluctant to intercede because this was a religious institution and more importantly to them it was Islamic. Senior law enforcement authorities of the Nashville police department informed me they were afraid of being sued by Islamic organizations such as CAIR if they got involved and it would be a political nightmare to get anything done at the mosque. What bothered me most of all is the fact I contacted Islamic organizations to help this innocent Muslim child and they also balked. This reinforced to me that Islamic law (Sharia) is alive and very active inside our country, to include child marriages. The next mosque I am going to discuss is led by an Islamic leader I have previously described as the most dangerous man in America."
Sorry, that last line should have been omitted.
Sorry, that last line should have been omitted.
This cancer in our midst must be eradicated. Does anyone know whether or not the UK has mandatory reporting laws for teachers, physicians, etc? What about for religious clergy? When we begin to prosecute the perpetrators, giving them serious prison-time, we'll begin to see a change in this trend.
It all depends largely on how good the school is. Normal action is for the head to report to police and social services and leave it to them. I knew of a case where a gipsy boy was regularly beaten up by his mother. Social services didn't want to intervene because the gypsies would just move on, and their children leave school at twelve anyway. OTOH, I had a boy tell me his mother's boyfriend had abused him. I told him to tell the school and the cops and SS had that man out of the house within the hour. you see, it's all relative. If it's gypsies or muslims the SS are reluctant to get involved.
What would Geert Wilders say?
"this man is behaving like a PIG, just like the barbarous Prophet Mohammed, who married the six year old girl Aisha."
http://crossmuslims.blogspot.com/2010/06/pigs-of-arabia-les-cochons-de-larabie.html
Yes, Virginia, Islam is illegal.
"The practice was condemned by the Imam of Finsbury Park Mosque, who said such marriages were against Islam and “unacceptable”."
It's really curious how so many of these barbaric practices that are "against Islam" occur exclusively in the Muslim community.
Islamonausea - how child abuse of both girls and pre-pubescent boys is institutionalized in Islam: http://crombouke.blogspot.com/2010/01/islamic-child-sexual-abuse-muslim.html
Re the article I posted above by Dave Gaubatz:
http://www.familysecuritymatters.org/publications/id.11242/pub_detail.asp
You wouldn't believe the taquiyya-stream going on there! JWers who know their stuff might want to stop by and post a quote or two from the unholy kkkoran.
"“Her father knew she hadn’t been in maths because he had sent an uncle to spy on who she was talking to through the classroom window).”"
I imagine that at no American elementary or high school are parents or other relatives allowed to freely roam about campus during school hours. More specifically, I can't imagine a situation in which individuals are allowed to monitor students through classroom windows here. Why are U.K. Muslim "uncles" allowed to monitor children through school windows without at least having their presence and behavior questioned, or being told to leave, or without the police being called, exactly?
This is the exact type of Pedophilia I am crusading against in Canada for the Corporation that are blind to the Shariah/Pedophilia/Homophobia being hidden behind the curtain by the sleaze ball Imam's and CAIR using the Human Rights Commissions and Barbara Hall to make Schools and Workplace Shariah-Compliant in the guise of Multiculturalism and Diversity.
The big Banks in Canada I have gone after are the ones that do business with the islamic based Nations that endorse Sex-Tourism for Western Pedophiles that want sex with little girls because the same Act in canada would land them in Prison, plus there was the man that gave a fake confession to the Jon Ramsey murder to "Get out of jail Free" and return to the USA for the Trial .
Toronto has an annual Event that two major Banks fund and expect employees to drink the Kool-Ade and stay quiet about the Pro-Hamas group in the event or the subtle Child-abuse and borderline Quasi-Pedophilia where some males have enjoyed exposing this penis at children in public as the Police allow it.
All of this is sick and yet the Feminists in Canada have joined CAIR to called the Shafia Murders as Domestic violence, then there is the new Poster by the Toronto Police that has four Females on it and the alert that Domestic-abuse is multicultural...this as if it was a crisis in canada and nobody noticed it until CAIR came to Canada to rescue us from ourselves and Domestic Abuse.
But the poster is Racists and insulting because there is only one white female while one has the Hijab , the same Hijab that the Police just Embraced as part of the Uniform for being Shariah Compliant to appease the 20 Imam's on the panel that claimed the Hijab and Burka ARE islamic and a piece of Faith clothing.
Toronto Police are now under the control of the Leftists PC Police Services Board that has Lefist/Socialist on it and has created a list of Special Dispendsations for Minority groups pron to violence or Drug abuse or illegal acts that others go to jail for.
The reason for why the groups like CAIR DO NOT condemn the Sex-Tourism or off-shore marriage my muslim Pedophiles in Canada is because their Prophet Muhammed is the example of the perfect Man , and that Perfect Man ( super-race) had sex with a 9 year old which means CAIR CAN'T mock Muhammed or infer to Westerners that he's IS a Pedophile.
Excusing away the actions by "Context" for the act will not work because Robert has pointed out that the quran
is aid to be the Perfect Word and Pure for all times and unchanged even today.
But the big question this year will be for Obama to take a stance on Pedophilia and denouce it while he clarifies from his Promptor Script his ties to the Muslim Brotherhood and CAIR....and then changes the topic to the Constitutional Rights for ALL Faiths in American.
Hmmmmm, I stayed tuned to see what unfolds pre-Election now that Obama approved the Bill to round-up Citizens on just the Allegation of Crimes against the State.
But then again, he too could be rounded-up and hoisted on his own Petard for setting that stage for another Civil-War which I assumed over a year ago by his actions to bow to islam and Muhammed.
Well, greenpen, I think it's "Allah" but personally I would have preferred a seven-letter word that also begins with A and ends with e. It would cut to the quick so much more effectively I would contend. Would be damn funny too and mocking evil is the next best thing to crushing it.
greenpen is right, CGW. There is mandatory reporting of child abuse in the UK. But whether individual teachers will actually report, and whether the authorities will follow up that report effectively, varies hugely. All we can do is keep on reporting!
How swiftly your god grants all your wishes!
Someone said this to Mohammed when he married his fifth concurrent wife (having insisted that other Muslims were only allowed four each) and then received a special revelation that, unlike other Muslims, he was not obliged to treat all five equally. Did he behead or impale this daring critic who recognised the sock-puppet character of Allah? No. The person who made this remark was Ayesha. Ayesha was not quite thirteen, but she could make Islam-toppling remarks with impunity.
BTW, I read recently (on a Muslim site) that Ayesha was born in the month of shawwal [August 614]. No references were cited. Does anyone know a primary source for this information? The reason it is interesting is that the Arabs had a superstition that it was unlucky to marry in shawwal. Ayesha scuppered the superstition on the grounds that "the Prophet married me in shawwal when I was six [June 620] and consummated the marriage in shawwal when I was nine [May 623] - and my married life has been very happy."
In other words, Mohammed first raped Ayesha when she was exactly nine years old... nine lunar years. By our solar reckoning, she was only 8¾.
If Ayesha really was born in shawwal, this must definitively disprove the Islamophobic accusation that Mohammed married a nine-year-old.
No surprise they don't call it Angel Islington any more. Hells teeth.
Not sure where to put this:
Update on muslim rapist
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=0F8VtOPPdDo
"The practice was condemned by the Imam of Finsbury Park Mosque, who said such marriages were against Islam and “unacceptable”."
how is this un islamic? its very typically mohomedian.
"He pledged to invalidate any marriage which he said were carried out by “back-street Imams”
how noble.
and the child molestation charges?
Abu Hamza al-Masri is the imam of said mosque. not surprising, he has a rap sheet as long as your arm. inciting racial hatred stood out at a cursory glance.
why isn't this character hauled in and brutalised, publicy flogged and denounced and demonised as encouraging child rape in his community? then into the stocks and pelted with all manner of shit.
and if its is so "unislamic" why not help the welfare departments, courts and police in erradicating this perversion from your community? or better yet, why aren't you PRO active, and seeking help and reporting this stuff to the authorities?
if only.
we're dealing with people so backward this is the only way they can comprehend something. their whole religion is based on cowardice and blind obedience to those more powerful (and invariably more ruthless and genuinely nasty) or mob rule/numbers and violence takes over. lynching homeless, divorced women as "having an affair" after being raped by their uncles is an example that springs to mind.
these poor girls. some will bear a new families anger in the wake of this. some may go missing.
it's now 2012. wtf is going on here?
and if he isn't still imam, it all still applies i'd say.
From Mr Spencer: "So, all of these people continuing the practice in the remotest, most undeveloped areas Afghanistan and Yemen out of Islamic piety must actually be reading American or European blogs, right?"
Brilliant.
From the article -
"Who are girls going to tell? Often they feel like [non-Muslim - dda] teachers at school won’t understand what their families are like.
"They [that is, the teachers - dda] will think they’re [the Muslim families - dda] like Western families, and won’t understand that if they [the teacher - dda] pass on anything at all that they’ve been told to the family, then the girl will be killed. So they [the girls - dda] just chose not to tell at all".
This was certainly the case in the experience of apostate from Islam 'Hannah Shah', author of the book 'The Imam's Daughter'. She had not been force-married, but from the age of six - to 'punish' her for perceived insubordination - she was not only beaten but regularly RAPED...not by a 'husband' but...by her own *father*, an imam.
This is what happened, the first time she tried to tell her teachers at school (not about the rape - she was too ashamed to mention that - but about the beatings.
From a newspaper interview she gave to Dominic Lawson of The Times -
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/faith/article5907458.ece
The Sunday Times
March 15, 2009
'My imam father came after me with an axe'
'...Hannah Shah says her story is not unique – that there are many other girls in British Muslim families who are oppressed and married off against their will, or who have secretly become Christians but are too afraid to speak out. She wants their voices to be heard and for Britain, the land of her birth, to realise the hidden misery of these women...'
"...When, at school, she had finally summoned the courage to tell a teacher that her father had been beating her (she couldn’t bring herself to reveal the sexual abuse), **the social services sent out a social worker from her own community** {my emphasis. In other words: the stupid social services assigned **a male Muslim ** to Hannah's case!!! - dda}
"He chose not to believe Hannah and, in effect, shopped her to her father, who gave her the most brutal beating of her life.
'When she later confronted the social worker, he said: “It’s not right to betray your community.”
'Hannah blames what is sometimes called political correctness for this debacle:
“My teachers had thought they were doing the right thing, they thought it showed ‘cultural sensitivity’ by bringing in someone from my own community to ‘help’, but **it was the worst thing they could have done to me. This happens a lot.** {my emphasis - dda}
“When I’ve been working with girls who were trying to get out of an arranged marriage, or want to convert to Christianity, and they have contacted social services as they need to get out of their homes, the reaction has been ‘we’ll send someone from your community to talk to your parents’.
"I know why they [social services - dda] are doing this, they are trying to be understanding, but it’s the last thing that the authorities should do in such situations.”
and in an excerpt from her book, given in the following review of same:
http://www.newenglishreview.org/blog_direct_link.cfm/blog_id/20277
'Hannah went to secondary school and sometimes she played truant and other times her teachers had difficulty persuading her to go home after lessons.
'They realised something was wrong and Hannah told them that she suspected a marriage was being arranged for her and that she was sometimes beaten.
'This is where the particular horror of being the daughter of an Islamic family comes in.
'Her teachers were sensitive to her “cultural needs”.
'They got her a Pakistani Muslim social worker, Omer.
'He spoke to her father. Her father tied her up with cord and beat her. She was locked in the cellar for several days. She contemplated suicide but didn’t.
'Back at school she saw Omer.
'I looked him in the eye. “You’re a real bastard . . .”
'I could see the shock on his face. “Hey I was just doing what I thought was right – it’s not right to betray your community”
'“Don’t you ever come near me again. You know what, you’re shit at your job. You know that? Totally shit”'... END QUOTE.
if a non-Muslim schoolteacher suspects that his or her girl pupil, from a Muslim family, is in some kind of difficulty - being beaten, abused, etc - the **very last thing** that that person should do, is make it possible for the girl's family to find out that he or she suspects this. Whoever is got in to help the girl must be a sensible - and brave - non-Muslim. And all parties trying to help MUST realize that the girl - if her family realizes that their savagery is likely to be revealed to the outside world, and that their little victim is about to try (or be helped) to escape from them - is very, very likely to be murdered with as little compunction as would be employed when wringing the neck of a chicken or shoving an unwanted kitten into a bucket of water.
U.K.: Girls as young as nine being forced into marriage
Nine. There's that number again...
For example, there is Sahih Bukhari 7.62.88: "The Prophet wrote the (marriage contract) with 'Aisha while she was six years old and consummated his marriage with her while she was nine years old and she remained with him for nine years (i.e. till his death)."
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Here's a brave Dutch artist who shows just what this looks like:
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_zENuDflPejY/S9ItVvVleJI/AAAAAAAAEZk/-UMv09eg-dc/s400/mohammed+and+aisha.jpg
More:
It is Islam's own texts and traditions that cause the practice to persist in places far removed from one another, and to appear where it had previously been unimaginable -- for example, Britain.
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**Britain**—one of the most civilized places on earth, now sliding into the Islamic dark ages. Ugh.
More:
In most cases, the children fear they will be killed if they reveal the truth to anybody...
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And how did these kids ever get that idea? Maybe it has something to do with the prevalence of "honor" killings in Islam. One of the main justifications of "honor" killings is resistance to forced marriages.
More:
Dianna Nammi, director of IKWRO, explained that the girls are married in a mosque’s sharia court. This means they are not legally married according to British law, rendering the Home Office unable to recognise or prove the abuse.
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These mosques and Shari'ah courts need to be shut down, their Imams prosecuted, then deported if they are not citizens.
More:
“They have to cook for them, wash their clothes, everything. They are still attending schools in Islington, struggling to do their primary school homework, and at the same time being practically raped by a middle-aged man regularly and being abused by their families. So they are a wife, but in a primary school uniform.
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And those are the girls who are not pulled out of school altogether, and denied even the chance at an education.
God, I hate Islam.
But nobody is listening! The European Union keeps forcing rulings over immigrants' human rights and 'right to family life' on the ineffectual British government - who are scared to stand up for Britain and civilised standards - nobody is standing up to defend the human rights of young children, which are being abused by an evil,7th century,orgy of hatred, evil, corruption and perversion. Until Camoron and his dhimmi cronies get their heads out of the sand and stand up for Britain and our way of life - notning will change!
Makes me wanna puke.
Banning 80+Sharia courts now operating in UK would be a good start.
Political correctness began with a bias toward fairness. But political correctness has now led us to protect the vilest...the most disgusting...of human beings.
It's time for common sense to come to the fore.
The disgusting ones must be punished NOW!
Do you people who object to child marriage and other Islamic practices realise Allah has written your names in his Heavenly notebook. When you die, its straight to hell for you. Your skins will eternally burned off and you will be made to consume a drink likened unto that of molten brass. Tremble in your shoes you wicked, blaspheming infidels. Meanwhile Muhammad is being tortured in his grave because he peed down his leg.
In California and Arizona, if you are a teacher, and it can be proven (that's the catch) that a teacher DID NOT report evidence of child abuse within 36 hours, the teacher himself/herself is guilty of a felony.
I don't believe anyone has ever been prosecuted, much less convicted of "not telling", but the Law is the Law, no matter how flawed the "enforcement" of it may be.
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Bottom line? Mohammedists are pedophiles and monsters.
If any man, Mohammedist or not, ever lays a finger on my daughter, (without her permission) I'm afraid I'll have to do something I wouldn't regret. I may go to jail for the rest of my life, but I would do what any decent father would do...details are not necessary.
Good for you, I'll help.
The report quotes an uncle looking through the school window to, "see who the girl was talking to." What in hell was any stranger doing been allowed onto the school premises anyway? Or is it normal for the muslims in that part of the world to wander in and out of schools as they please? Why wasn't this shifty bloke reported to the police? Perhaps he was and, as usual with our useless and gutless police, they decided to ignore it for fear of upsetting a muslim.
Some years back a couple of little boys claimed they had been abused by a teacher. The police in trying to build a case interviewed over a thousand children, pupils past and present. Here we have evidence of wide scale sex abuse and, in my view, child slavery and the police, as normal, will do nothing incase in upsets the muslims.
The time really is comming and I think it is comming quicker than the rubbish politicians and police think when the British people will themselves have to enforce the law against criminal muslims. It won't be pretty for anyone concerned, in fact it will be a disaster but the government and the police will have no one to blame but themselves.