Coren on Shafia case: "This had nothing to do with domestic violence and everything to do with honour killings"

I am very heartened by the many great souls like Michael Coren. It is encouraging to note that writing a list of such wonderful people would take me a while and would necessarily miss many.
We all know some of the names: (no particular order)
Micael Coren
Robert Spencer
Pamela Geller
Bat Ye'or
Geert Wilders
David Horowitz
Douglas Murray
Melanie Phillips
Raymond Ibrahim
Marisol
Nonie Darwish
Walid Shoebat
Ayan Hirsi Ali
Brigitte Gabrielle
Caroline Glick
Serge Trifkovic
Bill Warner
Moorthy Muthuswamy
Wafa Sultan
Ali Sina
David Wood
Daniel Greenfield
Andrew McCarthy
LtC Allen West
Usama Dakdok

And others.

Please add to this list.
I like to discover new names to "chase up".
Thanks.
Gerard.

As to WHEN, here's the answer: When the counter-jihad reaches a critical mass.

Right now we're all in a race, whether we know it or not.

Can the Muslims in the West outbreed the native populations and therefore win by sheer numbers. They know the rules of the democracy game. Majority wins. Once they acquire power by democratic means, Muslims WILL rule quite UNdemocratically. Several cities or municipalities in W.Europe are on the verge of being politically controlled by Muslim majorities.

Their second tactic is to infiltrate Western institutions in order to hollow out, via policy/rule changes, core Western values. In this effort they are being significantly supported by the MSM and the left. Hillary's signing on to Resolution 16/18 is but one such example, prompting those of us with common sense to ask, Whose side are these government officials on? The obvious answer is NOT YOURS. In country after country, these governmental elites have sold their people out. Some might think that a conspiracy were in play.

Versus,

Can we in the West, we in the counter-jihad movement, can we educate enough of our fellow citizens, at a fast enough rate, such that they not only see the dangers of Islam themselves but that they also become Paul Reveres on their own warning even more in their own circles of friends and family of the dangers coming.

It is a game of geometrical ratios. Muslims and the left are trying mightily to try our shoelaces together so that we can't run the race. To this end they seek a powerful tool: Muzzling critical analysis of Islam. That is, shutting us up. It ain't gonna work provided enough of us hold politicians feet to the fire and hold them to their voluntarily-taken oath to the Constitution. We must remind them of that oath, and that the 1st Amendment is part of the oath. Criticism and unwelcomed speech are NOT hate speech. And even if, for the sake of argument, criticism were, it is nonetheless protected speech.

Government officials want to fool us into believing that government grants rights, like freedom of speech, and therefore government can take them away. NO, NO, NO, a thousand times NO. Rights come to us from the Almighty; government's SOLE purpose is to protect those rights. Remind the politicians of this fundamental rule.

For my part I am educating like crazy. I've found that it's not as difficult as it might seem at first. People are genuinely puzzled at Islam. They want information and they intuitively know that what they receive from the MSM is not truthful. They hear the MSM's mantra of a small minority of Muslims, blah, blah, blah, and at the same time have the witness of their own eyes and ears, seeing exactly how Muslims behave in real life (honor killings to give but one of many examples). When shown that these Muslims are simply following the example of the Perfect Man and the instructions found in his Koran, lights come on and understanding is realized.

It is satisfying giving people such information. In this effort I am of course aided materially by Spencer, Emerson, Geller and others to whom I give my thanks.

Islamonausea
"Fear of Islam, Islamophobia, is what Muslim extremists try to make us to feel by using threats and terror. But who is afraid of Islam? We feel sick of all that hate, violence and suppression of women. Islamonausea is a fitting word."

"what does Islam actually say about the place of women within the family, the community and society?"

After examining Muhammad's hadiths about women, the great muslim scholar al-Qurtuby writes:
"A woman may be likened to a sheep (even) a cow or a camel... for all are ridden." (Tafsir al-Qurtubi v.15, p.172)

Muslims tend to forget that a woman, Khadija, and what is known as "The Test of Khadija" or "The Test of the Thighs" is actually the ONLY proof of the veracity of Muhammad's prophethood. (The Biography of the Prophet by Ibn Hisham p. 93-94)
http://crossmuslims.blogspot.com/2011/06/khadijas-thighs.html

And the biggest hinderance to stopping these honor killings, at least in the West, is not Muslims, but PC dhimmi and/or fact-challenged morons "who mean well" by attempting to explain away jihad/honor murder with every reason but the obvious one. Recall another group of bureaucratic idiots who called the Hassan jihad murders at Ft. Hood, "workplace violence." Such idiot scum should be fired as incompetents, for failure to do a proper investigation and continued negligence in protecting the general public.

Percentage of honor killings done by Muslims

According to the article "Worldwide Trends in Honor Killings," published in the Middle East Forum, Muslims do 91 percent of honor killings worldwide and 96 percent of honor killings in Europe. If you click on the above link, those percentages can be found five paragraphs below the heading "Methodology."

"Are Honor Killings Simply Domestic Violence?" at the Middle East Forum.

http://www.meforum.org/2067/are-honor-killings-simply-domestic-violence

"Yes, of course the vast majority of Muslims would never kill or harm their children"

I think the more accurate way of putting this is

"Yes, of course the vast majority of Muslims don't kill their children"

Because, the "would never" implies that Spencer a) knows the minds of hundreds of millions of Muslims, which is absurd; and b) that he knows the future, which is also absurd.

Secondly, if we're going to include "harm" in this equation, it's highly likely that a hell of a lot of harm (i.e., emotional and physical abuse) is going on among a hell of a lot of Muslim families around the world, more than the implied tiny minority (the logical opposite of a "vast majority", no?); and anyway, why add the distraction of familial abuse to this equation especially in favor of Muslims, when we are focusing on (honor) killing per se?

It is not only shocking but disgusting.

Coming from a family of Hindus, I can tell you that a number of my cousins, other family members and all have "strayed" and married the person they loved.

Sure, at first everyone was a little like "what, why, how" but there was no violence and today I can happily say we have French, Norwegian, Scottish, English, Italian, Irish.....and even Japanese mixed cousins spanning the globe.

We still get the shocker when someone decides to marry outside our community, but we all say "Its their life, I hope they are happy and they will always be welcome in our homes".

Now getting back to the real issue here. I just don't understand how these people can resort to violence and kill the people they are supposed to love and protect. Where is the honor in it? I don't see anything honorable in their actions.

However, I would like some guidance on the issue. Everyone keeps telling me "This is not Islam, its not in the Koran". How am I supposed to argue back? What should I say? Any references, passages, would be greatly appreciated so I don't look like an ignorant person next time.

Thanks.

Yes, of course the vast majority of Muslims would never kill or harm their children . . .

This may well be true, but you can be damn sure none of them would report it to the police or condemn it amongst themselves or to others . . they would most likely approve of it and publicly declared that she or he deserved and it was justified under sharia law

kancha, here's a start on what you might be looking for:

ISLAMIC LAW

A standard Islamic legal reference, certified by Al-Azhar, the chief center of Islamic and Arabic learning in the world, not only says one can kill one's children or grandchildren with impunity; impunity also extends to a Muslim who kills a non-Muslim, and to non-Muslims who kill apostates from Islam:

From page 583-584 of The Reliance of the Traveller/Umdat Al-Salik:

o1.2 The following are not subject to retaliation:

1. a child or insane person, under any circumstances...

2. a Muslim for killing a non-Muslim;

3. a Jewish or Christian subject of the Islamic state for killing an apostate from Islam...

4. a father or mother (or their fathers or mothers) for killing their offspring, or offspring's offspring;

From the back cover of Reliance of the Traveller:

"There is no doubt that this translation is a valuable and important work, whether as a textbook for teaching Islamic jurisprudence to English speakers, or as a legal reference for use by scholars, educated laymen, and students in this language."
- Dr. Taha Jabir al-Alwani, president of the International Institute of Islamic Thought

...is the first translation of a standard Islamic legal reference in a European language to be certified by Al-Azhar, the Muslim world's oldest institution of higher learning. It presents an explanative interpretation of Umdat al-Salik, a classic Sunni manual of Sacred law...

kancha, you could also cite the article that shows 91 percent of honor killings worldwide are done by Muslims.

Recall another group of bureaucratic idiots who called the Hassan jihad murders at Ft. Hood, "workplace violence." Such idiot scum should be fired as incompetents, for failure to do a proper investigation and continued negligence in protecting the general public.

Remember that Nutbar Imam that is a whahhabi/sharia/pro-hamas goon from Pakistan that tried to sue Ezra levant and had just claim that Muslims in canada today are JUST LIKE the jews in 1930's Nazi germany.

That Imam/moron, well today he just declared murder and missogyny/pedophilia a bad thing that 34 Imam agreed to once they were dragged kicking abd screaming into the 21st century in canada .
Note the last fatwa by this islamic Supremacy group that had to tell muslims to NOT do terrorism acts on canada and the the USA. He DID NOT say they had to stop terrorism in his homeland by his pakistani brothers sent out around the world to slaughter civilai ns to spread allah's peace.

Pretty pathetic when 34 Imam's had to get together for a taqqiyah photo-op and pretend to denouce misogyny as Hijab wearing female victims of Whahhabism and oppression sit silent and show how peaceful islam is becayse they CHOOSE to wear the hijab (That's because they can't swim in a burka and worry syed will go Jihad and commit Aqua-cide to murder them, he's the guy linked to the fire-bombing of a muslim female i ncalgary from his mosque, and CAIR ran with it as a hate-crime even when it was a MUSLIM that torched the home).

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Canada February 4 2012
Sun news.

MISSISSAUGA - In a rare move, 34 Imams and Islamic leaders from across North America have issued a fatwa to Muslims condemning honour killings, domestic violence and misogyny.
Imam Syed Soharwardy ( Whahhabist/ pro-pedophilia), from Calgary, was surrounded by a dozen other Islamic Supreme Council of Canada members at the Jamia Riyadhul Jannah mosque in Mississauga on Saturday as he delivered the official religious edict — a bold step meant to prevent another tragedy like the Shafia family killings.

"Those who think honour killing is OK are dead wrong," Soharwardy said. "There is no place for violence in Islam."

"A very small minority" of Muslims think this way and they "need to be corrected," he added.

The "united statement," which can be seen in full at www.iscc.ca, clarifies to members of the faith that they are not to take the law into their own hands.

"Violence is not the way to resolve conflict in the home," Soharwardy said.

In its statement, the ISCC also translates passages from the Qur'an that are often wrongly quoted to justify honour killings, domestic violence and misogyny.

Soharwardy explained a fatwa is "not legally binding" but it is "morally binding."

It's only the third time in a decade the ISCC has issued a fatwa.

Most recently, in January 2010, the council warned Muslims not to commit acts of terrorism against Canada or the U.S.
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WOW, not one word of compassion or loss for the 4 murdered brown-females killed by three people with Muhammad in their names.
Syed has crusaded for Shariah in canada and even backed Dr.Sheema Khan when CAIR and Aly Hindy wanted islamic Law
to rule Muslims on candian soil, Hindy wanted to see females hung from our light poles for adultry, and the jews and gays exterminated for allah's peace.

Sick and twisted 7th century losers that think we are just as stupid as their brothers back home that exalt a misogynistic/pedophile as the Perfect man from the Super-race. There are almost 6'000'000'000 non-muslims on Earth and they can't kill us all because most of muhammad's warriors go after females and unarmed civilains and children.
If this piece of $*it is the best allah can do as a spokeperson to fool us the islam=Peace, they islam is dead in canada and we must change are immigration and refugee policy to filter-out the death-cult pedophiles and women beaters whom have a record of going on welfare or commit crimes to fill our prisons and do dawah to recuit our useful-idiot/pot heads and deadbeats feeding off the state as it is.

http://www.torontosun.com/2012/02/04/north-america-fatwa-issued-against-honour-killings
Check out the Photo, all females had to be in Hijabs and silent. And this guy denouces misogyny????

(video) Feb 4, 2012: Mohammad Shafia understood Islam very well — Mass “honor killing” (i.e. dishonor murders)

to Shari’ah o2.4

“… not subject to retaliation … (4) a father or mother (or their fathers or mothers) for killing their offspring, or offspring’s offspring.”

http://newstime.co.nz/mohammad-shafia-understood-islam-very-well.html

"Evil is made possible by the sanction you give it.
Withdraw your sanction" — Pamela Geller

Allah allows polygamy to have multiple (till 'four') wives

4:3 "...Marry women of your choice, Two or three or four"

Yes, of course the vast majority of Muslims would never kill or harm their children . . .

"This may well be true, but you can be damn sure none of them would report it to the police or condemn it amongst themselves or to others ."

Yep. And not only that, among this "vast majority" of Muslims Spencer was exonerating include how many parents or brothers or cousins or uncles who make life a living hell for girls by merely creating a climate of death threats to them? And then we have yet to factor in the attempted honor killings that so far have failed for one reason or another.

Gamil Rodrigue Liass Gharbi also known as Mark Lépine, born of an Algerian father and French Canadian mother, was a 25-year-old man from Montreal, Canada who, on 6 December 1989 murdered fourteen women and wounded ten women and four men at the École Polytechnique in Montreal, Canada. Lépine's actions have been variously ascribed to psychiatric diagnoses such as personality disorder, psychosis, or attachment disorder. It is now apparant that his was an undiagnosed case of "Sudden Jihad Syndrom."

Muslims, by practice and definition, have no honor.

Islam is the only so-called "religion," that I'm aware of, that it's prophet and his made up god commands that all forced followers kill, convert and tax all unbelievers.

In order for a human being to believe in and obey such obvious evil, he must first be missing the human qualities of virtue and honor. Such people are generally identified as psychopaths.

ALL Mohammadans/Muslims are exceedingly dangerous. They are pathological liars and kill on command. They don't have to listen to "voices" in their head. They pray five times a day, in groups, and go to their mind-control lab (Mosque) every Friday.

This schedule doesn't leave much time for independent thought and research. That's the idea, I suppose, when you consider the fact that Muslim "scholars" have translated fewer books into Arabic over the past 1400 years than Spain translates into Spanish every year.

The Ayatollahs and Imams preach that the Qur'an is all Muslims need to know. The highest purpose in the life of a Muslim is jihad, the conquest and murder of all non-Muslims.

If Muslims stray from the dictates of the Qur'an, parents, relatives and even strangers are commanded to kill them.

You probably have some of these mad dogs in your neighborhood. Tick, tick, tick………

I want all Muslims out of my country.

Muslims, by practice and definition, have no honor.

Islam is the only so-called "religion," that I'm aware of, that it's prophet and his made up god commands that all forced followers kill, convert and tax all unbelievers.

In order for a human being to believe in and obey such obvious evil, he must first be missing the human qualities of virtue and honor. Such people are generally identified as psychopaths.

ALL Mohammadans/Muslims are exceedingly dangerous. They are pathological liars and kill on command. They don't have to listen to "voices" in their head. They pray five times a day, in groups, and go to their mind-control lab (Mosque) every Friday.

This schedule doesn't leave much time for independent thought and research. That's the idea, I suppose, when you consider the fact that Muslim "scholars" have translated fewer books into Arabic over the past 1400 years than Spain translates into Spanish every year.

The Ayatollahs and Imams preach that the Qur'an is all Muslims need to know. The highest purpose in the life of a Muslim is jihad, the conquest and murder of all non-Muslims.

If Muslims stray from the dictates of the Qur'an, parents, relatives and even strangers are commanded to kill them.

You probably have some of these mad dogs in your neighborhood. Tick, tick, tick………

I want all Muslims out of my country.

"For God’s sake, when are we going to grasp the nettle truth and ask genuine questions?..."

First they came for the Jews and I said nothing because I was not a Jew. Then they came for the Catholics but I said nothing...

When they come for us there will be no one left to ask the question, let alone save us.