Egypt: Copts protest disappearance of Christian girls... again

The more things change, the more they stay the same. Coptic Pope Shenouda III warned in 1976: "There is a practice to convert Coptic girls to embrace Islam and marry them under terror to Muslim husbands."

This practice has reportedly intensified since the revolution. "Egypt’s Copts protest 'disappearance of girls'," by Mohamed Abdel Salam and Joseph Mayton for Bikya Masr, February 29:

CAIRO: A number of Egypt Coptic Christian protesters organized a demonstration on Tuesday in front of Parliament to protest what they called “the disappearance and abduction of Coptic girls,” where the families of the missing girls took part in the protest organized by the Association of Victims of Abduction and Enforced Disappearance.

The protesters chanted “Where is the rule of law” and “no for the Islamization of minors”,”MPS, where are the rights of Copts?”

Protesters were expecting MP Mohammed Abu Hamed, a member of the Free Egyptians Party, to form a delegation and make a note and submit it to the parliament’s human rights committee concerning the disappearance of Coptic girls and to call for the rule of law to be applied.

In recent years, Coptic Christian advocacy groups have lambasted the Egyptian authorities for allegedly not forcing the return of Coptic girls to their families after they have allegedly been kidnapped by Muslim men. Police and media have reported scores of missing women over the past few years and many quickly return to their families without much explanation....

Bikya Masr shows its bias as the story continues, essentially blaming Coptic Christianity's prohibition on divorce for this phenomenon, blaming the bad old sexist priests and claiming Islam "liberates" the women. Would they dare make the equivalent claims about Islam?

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Biased or BS?

They are dhimmis.

Here is a deliberately unclear statement:

Police and media have reported scores of missing women over the past few years and many quickly return to their families without much explanation....

It suggests that these cases have been widely reported as well as these girls have been returned.

What is more true - is that Christian girls are virtually never returned - and the police will either force Christian family members to sign over their daughters or arrest family members, fathers and uncles, for breaking the children out of those places.

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Sometimes you see articles where the Coptic Christians would explain something that would seem to make no sense. Once, there was an incident where the Christians had waited 9 years to finally gain permission to replace or repair the old dome church roof.

After a Muslim mob - probably in the 100's or so - showed up to throw stones at them - in the article the Copts went to great pains to explain how they needed the repairs on the dome roof - as it was 50 to 100 years old.

You got the feeling of their dhimmi status. The dome could fall and kill somebody, and secondly why do you have to wait 9 years to make a repair!!

They are trying to write it in a way that doesn't offend. Even though they got attacked and stoned.


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I believe this article was written by a Muslim as well as a Christian - and suggests the real reason why Christian girls are kidnapped - or rather 'not' kidnapped but 'choose' a life with a total stranger and convert to Islam - because in their teenage years they are thinking strongly about the fact that in the Coptic Church one cannot divorce!!

One has to wonder - why it is that Christian and Hindu girls are taken - in the same way in Pakistan. Where strangely enough, Shari'a based laws are in effect there as well.

The article is written in a way to back up the Muslim supremacist position, and to make them feel better about completely ignoring - the plight of the Christians. There are kidnapping cases that appear all over the world - but never with this much impunity. There is clearly a breakdown in the law, when it comes to Egypt's non-Muslim citizens

They have the right to take a Christian /non-Muslim girl if they want - after which they are seen as Muslims. And the state doesn't get involved except to prevent these girls from leaving their Muslim capturers.

Ali is two wives short of his quota and needs a few spare concubines. Why do these filthy infidels complain when they are being afforded the great honor of satisfying Ali's lust and thus pleasing Allah.

Kuffar women are halal for brave Muslim men. It is up to silly kuffars to kill the kidnappers.

Nice of the Muslims to "liberate" the Coptic girls. Presumably Coptic boys don't need "liberating"...just marriage-age girls.

Cole asks and explains:

"Biased or BS?

They are dhimmis.

Here is a deliberately unclear statement:

'Police and media have reported scores of missing women over the past few years and many quickly return to their families without much explanation...'"
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Yeah.

My head is spinning on that one too, Cole.

Great post.

Dr Mark Durie in Australia has been raising awareness about this Muslim vileness for some time.

http://markdurie.blogspot.com/2009/11/abduction-and-islamization-of-christian.html


http://www.csi-int.org/pdfs/csi_coptic_report.pdf

"A pioneering new report released by Christian Solidarity International and The Coptic Foundation for Human Rights details the abduction, rape, forced marriage and forced islamization of Coptic women and girls in Egypt."

And here is his analysis of their predicament as de facto dhimmis.

http://markdurie.blogspot.com/2011/10/double-bind-upon-copts-dhimmitude-in.html

Monday, October 10, 2011
A Double-Bind Upon the Copts: dhimmitude in action

Note well, as regards the kidnapping and debauching of Infidel girls: exactly the same thing is done to Hindu and Christian girls in Pakistan and Bangladesh. I also recall reading that Iraqi Christian girls were being regularly kidnapped: often sexually mutilated, always raped, sometimes killed, sometimes kept as 'wives' or to be used as prostitutes, sometimes if they were lucky, left alive and dumped when their tormentors tired of them. When there were Jewish communities living in North Africa and Iraq and other places, *their* women and girls would also be regularly preyed upon by Mohammedans.

In just one year in Pakistan, at least 50 Hindu girls and 25 Christian girls - some of them underage - were seized by Mohammedans. They are not necessarily *married* to their Muslim rapists; sometimes they are simply sold off as sex-slaves...who knows, maybe some of them end up as the disposable living sex dolls of some depraved Saudi Mohammedan princeling.

It is also worth noting that Mohammedans simply do not recognise the marriage vows of Infidels. It is perfectly halal for a Mohammedan to seize and rape and stuff into his harem the *wife* of a non-Muslim man. Sex with an infidel woman who is married, is not classed as adultery under sharia. THe moment the Mohammedan grabs her, her marriage vows are conveniently deemed to have ceased to exist. Never mind about what she or her husband think and feel. Remember that, whenever some taqiyya-spouting Mohammedan waxes lyrical about alleged Mohammedan 'family values' and 'respect for the family'. they have absolutely no respect WHATSOEVER for the sanctity of infidel marriage vows nor for the feelings of Infidel parents whose ten or twelve or thirteen year old daughter has been seized and gang-raped and force 'converted' to Abominable Islam by a bunch of predatory thugs.


There have been cases of Mohammedans deliberately seizing **new brides** so as to maximise the pain and humiliation endured by the dhimmi community.

Here's the heart-rending story of one such girl, a Jewish girl from Iraq who was snatched in 1953.

http://www.ynetnews.com/Ext/Comp/ArticleLayout/CdaArticlePrintPreview/1,2506,L-3554723,00.html

Passage from Iraq

Hannah Menashe was only 21 [and just-married - dda] when she was abducted from her family in Baghdad ahead of their immigration to Israel.

Well, the cult of deceit (Islam) sanctions lying to further their political ambitions and their mosques are "houses of war" (against non-Muslims), so what is to stop them from desecrating the Bible? It is interesting that all of a sudden they find Bibles at the compound of bin Laden touted as full of communiques, which could merely be stolen Bibles that had highlighted sections from someone's study of the Bible. What is the intended message, that jihad uses Bibles? That Muslims have no respect for the Bible? That Pakistan lies to the press? That Islam fosters childish behavior?

Ah yes—here they are "liberating" Coptic girls. But they can make no such claims about the abductions of Christian and Hindu girls in Pakistan, or Christian and animist girls in Nigeria, or even vulnerable Muslim girls in Somalia—where there are no Infidel girls to abduct.

Te fact is, Islam *sacralizes* the abduction and rape of young girls. When one of the victims, a schoolgirl, balked in Somalia, she was summarily shot in the head.

"Somalia: Al-Shabaab abducting teenage girls to 'marry' jihadists"

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2012/02/somalia-al-shabaab-abducting-teenage-girls-to-marry-jihadists.html

"Pakistan: Christian sisters kidnapped, forced to marry a wealthy Muslim"

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2011/05/pakistan-christian-sisters-kidnapped-forced-to-marry-a-wealthy-muslim.html

"Pakistan: Christian girls and women, some already married, abducted and forcibly converted to Islam"

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2012/01/pakistan-christian-girls-some-already-married-abducted-and-forcibly-converted.html

The thing about divorce is just a canard.

In any case, it is only Muslim *men* who may easily divorce. Men can just recite the "Triple Talaaq", while Muslim girls and women have to appear before a Shari'ah court, and are frequently denied.

In addition, you regularly find Muslim clerics railing against the freedoms of Western women all the time—including their freedom to divorce, and contrast if unfavorably with the strictures put on Muslim women.

The idea that these kidnappers and rapists are looking out for the rights of Coptic girls and women could not be more grotesque.

To all Coptic's in Egypt or any other Islamic counrty. Get out of these before you are killed.

To all Coptic's in Egypt or any other Islamic counrty. Get out of there before you are killed.

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