New York Times: Go back to sleep, jihadis in U.S. "a minuscule threat to public safety"

The New York Times, fresh from its alarmist campaign to intimidate New York City officials into dropping all attempts to tell the truth about the stealth jihad in America, is running a piece today about how the violent jihad is nothing to worry about, either -- featuring a new "study" by a dhimmi academic and numerous omissions of fact and leaps of logic. Clearly, for the Times, "Islamophobia" is a much greater threat than jihad -- after all, what's a few, or a few hundred, or a few thousand murdered Americans?

On the journalistic integrity of Scott Shane, see here.

"Radical Muslim Americans Pose Little Threat, Study Says," by Scott Shane in the New York Times, February 8 (thanks to Hussam Ayloush of Hamas-linked CAIR, who gleefully tweeted this link today):

WASHINGTON - A feared wave of homegrown terrorism by radicalized Muslim Americans has not materialized, with plots and arrests dropping sharply over the two years since an unusual peak in 2009, according to a new study by a North Carolina research group.

The study, to be released on Wednesday, found that 20 Muslim Americans were charged in violent plots or attacks in 2011, down from 26 in 2010 and a spike of 47 in 2009.

Only 20? Relax!

Charles Kurzman, the author of the report for the Triangle Center on Terrorism and Homeland Security, called terrorism by Muslim Americans "a minuscule threat to public safety." Of about 14,000 murders in the United States last year, not a single one resulted from Islamic extremism, said Mr. Kurzman, a professor of sociology at the University of North Carolina....

These figures are jimmied to start with: by "Islamic extremism," of course, the Times is referring only to terrorist acts, but take another example of Islamically justified violence: honor killing, and specifically the honor murder of Jessica Mokdad. If one follows mainstream media practice (and that of dhimmi pseudo-academics) and ignores all the evidence that honor killing is broadly sanctioned by many Muslim authorities, and then also ignores all the evidence that Jessica Mokdad was murdered for not being Muslim enough, then one can conclude that her murder was not related to "Islamic extremism."

And so voila, no murders due to "Islamic extremism" in 2011. Then there were all the foiled plots: if a few jihad plots had succeeded, such as this one or these three that were revealed in one week recently, there would have been murders -- possibly even hundreds or thousands of deaths. But Scott Shane and Charles Kurzman do not consider that a possibility worth entertaining.

Forty percent of those charged in 2011 were converts to Islam, Mr. Kurzman found, slightly higher than the 35 percent of those charged since the 2001 attacks. His new report is based on the continuation of research he conducted for a book he published last year, "The Missing Martyrs: Why There Are So Few Muslim Terrorists."...

It would be interesting to hear Kurzman explain why so many converts to Islam misunderstand their peaceful new religion -- and why all do so in the same way. But Kurzman would probably consider the question itself to be "Islamophobic."

The 2011 cases include just one actual series of attacks, which caused no injuries, involving rifle shots fired late at night at military buildings in Northern Virginia. A former Marine Corps reservist, Yonathan Melaku, pleaded guilty in the case last month in an agreement that calls for a 25-year prison sentence.

More on that one, including video, here.

Other plots unearthed by law enforcement last year and listed in Mr. Kurzman's report included a suspected Iranian plan to assassinate the Saudi ambassador to the United States, a scheme to attack a Shiite mosque in Michigan and another to blow up synagogues, churches and the Empire State Building....

That scheme to blow up the Shi'ite mosque came from a white American convert to Sunni Islam. Since it wasn't initially reported that he was a Muslim, Hamas-linked CAIR initially trumpeted the plot as more evidence of "Islamophobia." Whoops!

And consider once again: if the plot to blow up the Empire State Building had succeeded, would even someone as willfully blind and compromised as Scott Shane of the New York Times dare to publish this twaddle?

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value judgment: an assessment that reveals more about the values of the person making the assessment than about the reality of what is assessed ...

In that case, the whole article can be dismissed as it says more about Scott Shane's and Charles Kurtzman's agenda as apologists for Islam.

Clowns!

What's to worry? An act of nature is potentially more deadly than Islamic Jihad attack. Like I might get struck by lightening before blowing up next to a suicider Moslem crazy. So what, me worry? Don't let the Boogyman scare you, turn lights off, go back to bed, you're safe under the covers.

"Then there were all the foiled plots"

Every foiled plot, and every plan found out, should be counted along with the successful terror attacks. That by itself undermines this NYT opinion piece built out of Leggo-factoids.

only 20? let see if they just killed one us that is only 20 people. since we 350 million people here what the hell we can spare 20! so just relax! it is all good.
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Oddly enough, I actually agree with NYT's statement, though not the reasoning behind it.

Violent jihadis have the ability to damage a lot of property and to kill a lot of people; they have done so in the past, and doubtless will continue to do so, both in the U.S. and throughout the world.

Even so, violent jihad does not, cannot, and will never, pose an existential threat to the United States.

What is the absolute worst case scenario that you can think of regarding violent jihad? That the mujahadin acquire a nuclear bomb and use it to anhilate a major American city? If, God forbid, that ever happens it will be horrible beyond describing, but even if it does, it will not completely destroy the United States of America.

The real danger comes not from violent jihad, but from stealth jihad. Stealth jihad really, truly does pose an serious existential threat to the United States. As the saying goes, "Demographics is destiny". I do not believe that the U.S. will become a Sharia state in my lifetime, but long-term I have to say that odds are not very good, and I fear for the kind of society in which my grandchildren will live.

This "study" is from a man promoting a book whose thesis is that American Muslims are not a threat, so the conclusions of the "study" are hardly a surprise. Of course the author cannot explain the spike in attempted terror attacks by Muslims in 2009 which means there is no reason to believe there could not be a similar spike in 2012 or any other year.This is just another attempt to whitewash islam, at a time when islam has come under increasing scrutiny by American citizens.

from the article:

"That pattern of ethnic diversity has held for those arrested since Sept. 11, 2001, he said."

Ahh yes, the liberal slant of ethnic diversity as a willful attempt to minimize the hard, cold fact that every last one of them were Muslims subscribing to the same religious ideology.

Scott Shane fails JW 101. What race is Islam again? No one can be that daft. Shane is probably a well-paid, NYT mole by certain undeclared Muslims or pro-Islam groups.

Just like BBC in UK, we have our own traitors in the likes of liberal PC MSM!! No difference between the two!!

We could probably guess there were never that many jihadists compared to the wider populations - that were conquered. They would not have been needed.

Look at how Iran fell or initially gave in to Islamic conquest.

The [few] jihadists of the time, approached the gates of Persia and said, We love death more than you love your wine.

The once proud Persian Empire was now in decline - and probably the aristocrats - doubtlessly hearing of the rivers of blood to conquer Syria - and the kind of slaughter that was leading up to their doors - reasoned somehow that it was probably better to give in. [To try and reason with it.]

But are we any better?

With the threat of jihadist violence - papers like the New York Times and others might be very cautious about what they print.

How many articles have they moderated or dumped all together - for fear of even possibility of Islamic violence?


The truth is you simply don't need that many people to create a climate of fear.

That the Islamic world has become accustomed to - living in.

From the first sword raised to conquer their ancestors - until now - they live under a state of control - and fear.

::

Muhammad's prophecy on Iran/Persia -

Quote from Muhammad “You will see, Allah will inherit the Persian's lands and money, furthermore their women will lie down ready for you to rape them.”

This statement among others [calling Turks ugly] caused one [western] Iranian studying to be an Imam, to leave Islam.

::

Today we have weapons - we have secret service - with sophisticated intelligence gathering - Al Qaeda and its ilk can walk up and repeat the same kinds of statements, made at Persia's gates - like 'We love Death More Than You Love Life' - but we won't fall.

[But some will think they can reason with it - and that by saying all the right things the problem will go away]

The New York Times along with almost every other paper in the western hemisphere is afraid, to some extent, that what they print might result in an attack - on their property or person. So saying all the right things has now become an art form.

Someone in the UK, said of the few radicals - 'they will never succeed in taking over but they can cause a lot of mischief in the meantime' - and they can cause a lot of fear too - forgive the Times - they know not what they do!

"The report also found that no single ethnic group predominated among Muslims charged in terrorism cases last year - six were of Arab ancestry, five were white, three were African-American and two were Iranian, Mr. Kurzman said. That pattern of ethnic diversity has held for those arrested since Sept. 11, 2001, he said."

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So, New York Times, if it's not skin color, and it's not ethnicity--what could have been the underlying factor that all of these terrorists shared? What ideology is it that cut across all racial and ethnic lines and inspired people of very different backrounds to plot the same violence and murder? I guess for the NY Times, it's just one of those baffling, inexplicable questions that "is very nuanced and doesn't have any single, easy answer."

I wish I was Donald Trump so I could fire these ingrates...These stupid people are almost as dangerous as the jihadi's they claim don't exist...There are around 400 Mahoundians in US jails and prison for participating in jihad or funding it...Do we have them all yet?

Mr. Kurzman's "new report is based on the continuation of research he conducted for a book he published last year, "The Missing Martyrs: Why There Are So Few Muslim Terrorists."

I guess his reseach didn't include
http://thereligionofpeace.com/

or he'd know that "islamic terrorists have carried out more than 18,400 deadly terror attacks since 9/11."

I don't know about minisule, but the treat of successful Islamic terrorism in the US is greatly reduced after spending a trillion dollars and taking away many small freedoms we once had, in an attempt to make Islamic terrorism a minisule threat.

I find it hard to believe that there are **only** 20-something active jihadists in the US at any time, all of which were caught. Look how many crimes go unsolved by law enforcement.

The laws of probability are not on the civilized world's side if our protectors have to be on their game 100% of the time to prevent future attacks. Jihadists need only get lucky once to make it a very bad day in for someone....

Stop reading this newspaper. Stop talking to reporters of this newspaper. Stop referring to this newspaper.

I beg your pardon, but I'm not sure what--by your definition--would qualify as an "existential" threat to the United States, short of something like what happened to Pompeii when Vesuvius erupted.

By that standard I suppose it could be argued that the Allies didn't pose an "existential" threat to Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan since even though both Axis enemies were (necessarily) left with millions dead and hardly one brick still sitting on top of another in the smoldering ruins--not to mention being forced to agree to unconditional surrender and military occupation for years--both Germany and Japan did, after all, "survive."

Would we "survive" the nuclear obliteration of a major U.S. city? Well, technically, yes. What would you require? The incineration of every square inch of our entire country, and the massacre of every last one of our citizens? No doubt the terrorists drool and slaver at the thought of such a complete, total destruction of "The Great Satan." But I'm not sure it would take that much.

I'm not entirely confident that even the nuclear annihilation by Moslem terrorists of, say, Boston, or Chicago, or New York, or Los Angeles would be "enough" to unite the country in grim and righteous determination to destroy the threat and win unconditionally, as Pearl Harbor did. We now have a home-grown Fifth Column of appeasers, propagandists, saboteurs, willing quislings, and traitors who hate America and who would undermine any such necessary measures towards self-preservation. They would, no doubt, demand that we, first, "identify" who did it; abstain from any whiff of "Islamophobia"; and then seek "negotiations" with the enemy rather than resorting to "violence."

They can be found throughout Hollywood, in the broadcast media and blogs, in the ACLU, in university classrooms, and...among the columnists of The New York Times. Many of them came out into the open immediately after 9/11 to denounce...THE UNITED STATES for having "provoked" and even "deserved" the attack. Even Bill Clinton insanely mused that it might be "retaliation for slavery"(!).

The Moslem jihadists are bent on our destruction and/or subjugation, and they're attacking on all fronts--both overt and "stealth" jihad, litigious "lawfare," by infiltrating our institutions to bore and subvert them from within, by "converting" our own criminal malcontents and young idiots to Islam, and by weakening our national identity and our resolve to defend it.

We need to fight them on all fronts. And we can't afford not to win.

The NYT is correct an the study is correct it just you far rightwing type donot see it that way. It than supervolance eputh in Yellowstone Nation Park it will kill many million and destory alots real estate also.

One of the avandge of wear Islamist slye colthing for than woman in the work place is shown in this Dutch commincal adv http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=YXBst_r6cNw.

Stuff like this is just depressing. The NYT is supposed to be a bastion of journalism.

And the print media has the nerve to wonder why people are increasingly turning to blogs and such for news.

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