Palestinian Authority gives pardons or suspended sentences for honor murders

Palestinian Authority gives pardons or suspended sentences for honor murders
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What a nice, modern neighbor the "Palestinian territories" will make for Israel...sarc/off

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If the apologists for the Islamic character of honor killing cared about women as much as they care about covering for Islam, they would devote their energies to stamping out the attitudes within the Muslim community that give rise to honor killing, rather than demonizing those who are standing up for victimized Muslim women.
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**Yes**. But I doubt we are likely to see this.

Why are you considered an "Islamophobe" if you are troubled by Muslim women being murdered? This is madness...

Pardons or suspended sentences for honor murders?

That's all. I thought they'd get a medal or at least some humus. I mean they are after all holding up the honor of Islam.

It's like this: In Islam murder and rape of non-Muslims and Muslim women are sanctioned by Mo/allah( their so called pedophile god). Of course Muslims won't and don't punish Muslim who follow this Islamic creed!! No surprise here. They transform from human beings to demons when they follow Quran and Mo/allah and then they stay demons. Nothing will ever help them to regain humanity unless and until they stop following Mo/allah.

Compare and contrast -

Kahil Gibran - Maronite Christian poet ......

“Your children are not your children.
They are sons and daughters of Life's longing for itself.
They come through you but not from you.
And though they are with you yet they belong not to you.

Mohammed - Muslim ??? ......

" However, "not subject to retaliation" is "a father or mother (or their fathers or mothers) for killing their offspring, or offspring's offspring." ('Umdat al-Salik o1.1-2).

They are getting closer to a pure practice of the spirit of the East, especially Islam: I will rub you out if you would be free.

Spirit of the West: I would not keep rubbed in a cage a wing that would be free. Poet Edna St Vincent Millay

In Islam, there can be no squaring of their "honour" with freedom.

Women are valued in Islam.
BBC Jan 30th 2012: Afghan woman is killed for giving birth to a girl
A woman in north-eastern Afghanistan has been arrested for allegedly strangling her daughter-in-law for giving birth to a third daughter [rather than the hoped-for son].
The murdered woman's husband, a member of a local militia, is also suspected of involvement but he has since fled.
The murder took place two days ago in Kunduz province. The baby girl, who is now two months old, was not hurt.
There were signs of torture on her body”, police added.

And dhimmis are helping the slaves on allah draft a constitution that will cover up the quranic basis of their tyranny.

http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2004240

Aw gee wiz......there just doing Allah's work. ah...peace be on him..........

"Honor murders" Only in Islam is murder considered "honorable". What an evil demon inspired twisted malevolent excuse for a religion. Oh and by the way Mohammed was a murderer,thief adulterer pedophile and pervert so what does one expect to have come from his mouth- treasures like the Psalms of David or the Proverbs of Solomon or parables like Jesus taught?

Is this really a religion?

Islam, the only 'religion' that gives birth to its victims!

Clowns!

Knock-me-down-with-a-feather-duster. These people are sub-human. .even the French, when they had 'crime of passion' on the books, used to send the convicted to Devils Island, not let get off scot-free.

"Palestinian Feminist movement" Now that's a sign of hope. I would like to hear more about that.

There remains a substantial minority of Muslims who approve of honor killings, even in countries such as Turkey:

http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/025383.php
March 25, 2009
Substantial percentage of Turkish population "support" honor killings

26% support honour killings

“the study also showed that 26.2 percent of the parents and 25.9 percent of the students said they support such killings, although 64 percent of all respondents said those who committed such a crime should be punished...”
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A common apologist claim is that the Quran forbids honour killings, because it forbids killing of those who don't fight. This claim is misleading, because the Quran allows a major exception, allowing killing for "a just cause" (25:68, 17:33, 6:151) or for "spreading mischief" (fasad, 5:32-33) in society. Thus the Quran leaves open the question of whether some kinds of honor killing are permitted. As Robert has noted before, the story of al-Khidr (in Sura 18) suggests that there are cases where Allah approves of killing children who might grow up to commit disbelief or rebellion. The Quran is not sufficiently clear on the issue of whether Muslims are permitted to kill children who transgress Islam through apostasy or sexual impropriety, etc. It does not, in fact, say that Muslims can't kill their own children who apostatize or significantly transgress Islam.

Another apologist claim is that Muhammad in the Hadith did not permit the killing of children, and that this policy should in effect prohibit honor killings as well. This is only partly correct. Muhammad did prohibit Muslims from killing children, but he allowed exceptions, including this one which related back to the story of al-Khidr (or al-Khadir, "The Green Man") in Quran Sura 18:

"This tradition has been narrated by the same authority (Yazid b. Hurmus) through a different chain of transmitters with the following difference in the elucidation of one of the points raised by Najda in his letter to Ibn Abas: The Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) used not to kill the children, so thou shouldst not kill them unless you could know what Khadir had known about the child he killed, or you could distinguish between a child who would grow up to be a believer (and a child who would grow up to be a non-believer), so that you killed the (prospective) non-believer and left the (prospective) believer aside." (Sahih Muslim, Book #019, Hadith #4457)

This is a remarkable hadith. It says, don't kill children, unless you could know what Al-Khidr knows, namely that the child will grow up to be a disbeliever. Apologists might claim that since no one knows what Al-Khidr knows (unless they are guided by Allah), then no Muslim can simply take it upon himself or herself to kill a child. But another obvious interpretation is also available: A parent can know when a child grows up to be a disbeliever when that, in fact, occurs, such as a child that grows up only to apostatize from Islam, or engages in such transgressions of Islam that amount to blasphemy or apostasy. Note that this interpretation is available precisely because Muhammad made it so: In other hadiths he ordered that the penalty for apostasy is death.

In Islamic law, an apostate past the age of puberty can be put to death.

The underlying problem here is the value system laid out in the Quran and Hadith. Together these texts, which inform Islamic law and custom, state that the following must be put to death:

-Adulterers
-Homosexuals
-Apostates
-A Muslim woman who has a voluntary sexual relationship or marriage with a non-Muslim man

In addition, fornication is punished by 100 lashes (Q 24:2) plus one year of banishment from the society.

The very severe penalties prescribed in traditional Islam for these sin-crimes do overlap considerably with the kinds of so-called honour killings and honour violence carried out by Muslims. Honour killings persist in Islamic societies in part because the Islamic value system promoted by the Quran and Hadith is so similar to the honour traditions that encourage such violence and killing.

Another apologetic line: Islam forbids vigilante punishment and killing. Again, this is only partly true. In the Hadith, a man killed the woman who was the mother of his children. The reason he killed her was because allegedly she repeatedly transgressed Islam by insulting Muhammad. Here's the hadith:

Sunan Abu-Dawud Book 38, Number 4348
“Narrated Abdullah Ibn Abbas: A blind man had a slave-mother who used to abuse the Prophet (p.b.u.h) and disparage him. He forbade her but she did not stop. He rebuked her but she did not give up her habit. One night she began to slander the Prophet (p.b.u.h) and abuse him. So he took a dagger, placed it on her belly, pressed it, and killed her. A child who came between her legs was smeared with the blood that was there. When the morning came, the prophet (p.b.u.h) was informed about it. He assembled the people and said: I adjure by Allah the man has done this action and adjure him by my right to him that he should stand up. Jumping over the necks of the people and trembling the man stood up. He sat before the prophet (p.b.u.h) and said: Apostle of Allah! I am here master; she used to abuse you and disparage you. I forbade her but she did not stop, and I rebuked her, but she did not abandon her habit. I have two sons like pearls from her, and she was my companion. Last night she began to abuse and disparage you. So I took a dagger, put it at her belly and pressed it till I killed her. Thereupon the prophet (p.b.u.h) said: Oh be witness, no retaliation is payable for her blood”."

In other words, Islam permits vigilante justice if the vigilante punishes someone who transgresses Islam, in this case by disrespecting Muhammad.

In summary, while the Islamic texts do not state explicitly that Muslims can kill their children who significantly transgress Islamic rules, they don't clearly say they can't kill such disbelieving or rebellious children, either. Moreover, the fact that the Islamic texts indicate that apostasy, blasphemy, and sexual impropriety are all grave offenses warranting severe physical punishments including killing, shows how consistent traditional Islam is with the honour traditions associated with it. Notions of strong parental control, and dress codes for young women, stated in the Quran and Hadith, also contribute to this idea that the parents must police their children, especially their young women. As Robert noted, such notions of honour are incorporated directly into Islamic law and the laws of some Muslim countries today in a way that validates the "honour" traditions.

Honor killings around the world ( 5000 per year ) compared to non-muslims killing their own children, wives, girlfriends and spouses that number in the tens of thousands around the world.

Here in the US alone:

In the US every year, about 18,700 incidents of violence in the workplace are committed by a worker’s current or former intimate partner.:

http://opdv.state.ny.us/statistics/nationaldvdata/nationaldvdata.pdf

4.9 million intimate partner rapes and physical assaults are perpetrated against U.S. women annually.

approximately 2 million will result in an injury to the victim, and 570,457 will result in some type of medical treatment to the victim.

https://www.ncjrs.gov/txtfiles1/nij/181867.txt