Pamela Geller has exclusive coverage on the confrontation between patriotic parents and clueless, compromised officials in Florida's Hillsborough School District:
Once again, the parents of students in the Hillsborough School District have fiercely expressed their disapproval that faculty invited the political organization, Hamas-CAIR, to address their students without providing a pro-freedom counter voice to their jihadist message. Back in December I broke the story that Hamas-linked CAIR was talking to high school students. Co-conspirators in the largest terror funding trial in our nation's history were subjecting students to indoctrination and propaganda. That is child abuse. There were no counter voices or voices of freedom?Hamas-CAIR was one of the many Islamic groups that was named an unindicted co-conspirator in the Holy Land Foundation Hamas jihad funding trial. They are in the top five AFDI Threats to Freedom Index.
The problem with that is that Shibly is a political speaker. A Hindu priest or Christian pastor won’t counter the poisonous propaganda that Shibly spews to our impressionable young minds. An informed counter-jihad speaker such as Robert Spencer, Nonie Darwish, Wafa Sultan or I myself must be given a chance to speak, so as to counter the lies of Hamas-tied CAIR.
And WND has more background: "Parents won't quit fight over CAIR indoctrination: Florida school board still battling against recognizing concerns," by Jack Minor for WND, February 16:
Parents in a Florida school district say their fight is not ending over district officials’ decision to openly promote a representative from the local Council on American-Islamic Relations group, whose national organization has ties to terrorism, to speak to their students and then refuse to listen to parental concerns.It was this week during a meeting of the Tampa school board that several members appeared dismissive of citizens’ concerns. Member Doretha Edgecomb said she didn’t even want to look at the concerns.
“It’s Islam today and the NAACP tomorrow,” she said.
A motion at the meeting to schedule a workshop on the issue failed, getting only two of the four votes it needed.
But Terry Kemple, president of the Community Issues Council, told WND the board is mistaken if members think a vote will make the concerns vanish.
“Each meeting has had more [concerns raised] than the one before. We are going to continue to make people aware of this and pack out every public meeting until the board listens to the concerns of parents in this district,” Kemple said.
He went on to say that if the board does not listen to residents, they will ultimately be replaced with board members who will.
He and other residents and parents had gone to a meeting of the Hillsborough County school board in Tampa after learning that the district had allowed Hassan Shibley [sic], executive director for CAIR-Tampa, to speak at more than a dozen Advanced Placement World History and World Religions classes last fall. The meeting was the second one in a row where residents have attempted to have their concerns addressed.
Shibley said the topics discussed at Steinbrenner High School included basic Muslim beliefs, Islamic history, Islam and human rights, religious tolerance and diversity, and popular misconceptions about Islam. He also talked to the student about “Islamophobia.”
Shibley is a local imam and said although he had joined CAIR last June, he had been speaking about Islam at the school for years including when he was a student in the district. In December, upon learning the district was allowing a member of CAIR to speak to students, area residents became concerned.
Kemple told the board that members of the community had no objection to teaching about Islam, however their issue had to do with allowing a member of a terrorist-affiliated organization talk about any subject in area schools. The group even recommended other Muslim speakers that would be qualified to speak on the Muslim history and other topics.
“We made it plain from the beginning the issue had nothing to do with Islam or even the subject matter that was taught,” Kemple said. “We just don’t believe the district should allow a group with ties to terrorism to speak to our children.”
Kemple is referring to the Holy Land Foundation case, the largest terrorism funding trial in American history. CAIR, the Islamic Society of North America and other Muslim organizations were named as unindicted co-conspirators in the case.
The Holy Land Foundation was once the largest Muslim charity organization in the United States. HLF was under investigation for years before finally being closed down by the Bush administration after the terrorist attacks on 9/11.
In December, a judge upheld the convictions in the case including Ghassan Elashi, founder of CAIR’s Texas chapter. Elashi received a 65-year prison sentence for funneling over $12 million from the Islamic charity known as the Holy Land Foundation to the jihad terrorist group Hamas.
Kemple said members of the community were not asking the board to make a decision that night to exclude CAIR officials from teaching about Islam, but were simply asking the board to hold a public workshop where the board could hear from both sides of the issue and craft a policy that would prevent groups with terrorist ties from speaking in the classrooms.
He said they wanted the board to hear from “experts” from both CAIR and the CIC on issues relating to FBI investigations of CAIR officials and other concerns about the group’s terrorist affiliations.
Shibley told WND that while he would not have a problem with another speaker coming in, he does not believe that would resolve the issue, insisting the issue is about Islam itself.
“The reason CAIR is a target is because we are the leader in fighting for civil rights and fighting pre-conceptions about Islam. Even if they had brought in another speaker there would still be issues,” Shibley said. “Anytime a Muslim organization gets strong it is attacked and we would be cutting off the head of our most effective organization” if CAIR agreed to stop speaking to the students.
Shibley attempted to defend the terrorist allegations saying the judge’s ruling applied to the national organization and not CAIR-Tampa. He went on say the indictment actually meant very little because it is easy for prosecutors to obtain them. “My law professor said you can indict a cat. We didn’t do anything wrong.”
Robert Spencer, founder of JihadWatch said Shibley was being disingenuous with his attempts to explain away the terrorist connection.
“His group has the name CAIR in its title, if he doesn’t want to be associated with the name CAIR he should remove it from his local organization. Regardless of the legal standing, the fact is CAIR-Tampa shares the same outlooks and beliefs as CAIR national,” Spencer said. “Whether they are a separate corporate entity is completely irrelevant. They have the same name and they share the same goals.”
Spencer said, “I’ve never been indicted and there is a lengthy list of CAIR officials who have been indicted and convicted for terrorism related offenses.”
That was in response to Minor's question about whether there was any significance to the designation of CAIR as an unindicted co-conspirator. Minor told me that Shibly told him that everyone gets indicted these days, and thus that it had no significance at all. So I responded to the effect of "Well, I've never been indicted, and millions of people haven't been, but plenty of CAIR officials have been..."
There is much more in the story regarding CAIR.
All soft soap talks or lectures to kuffar about the glories of Islam are da'wa and a recruiting tool...Mahoundians should not be allowed to recruit from public schools...Period...Next thing you know he will be conducting shahada rituals with mushy headed volunteers, just to see what it 'feels like'...
This perfumed, necktied and groomed terrorist thinks that the terrorists in Iraq and Afghanistan, who kill american and allied troops, are freedom figthers -as in fighting the dirty kuffar, their holy and righteous jihad-. That scumbag should be jailed for apologizing, exalting and legitimizing terrorists groups and mass murder. The most insultive and ridiculous thing is the guy saying, on his Twitter account, that he promotes "civil liberties" and "promotes justice and mutual understanding". Hahaha... oh wow!.
Slippery slope - letting well trained Muzzies to scoop around schools and give unchallenged and one sided sugar coated opinions and inducements to the unwary majority of the American citizens.
They are seriously organized - who is paying them for all these resources?
In the U.S., religion in the public academia is prohibited... unless it's Islam, of course. Talk about creeped sharia!.
They are seriously organized - who is paying them for all these resources?----
Muslim countries with lots of oil and cash, countries like Saudi Arabia, Qatar and UAE: http://j.mp/yXaXrS
Well, it appears that belief and disbelief can both be wildly extreme.
The Sharia genocidal folks cannot possibly be as bad and evil as they keep saying that they are? It is so preposterous that it must be like a joke or something?
This is a clear representation of dawa by Muslims, they will go to any length to promote their propaganda about Islam. Young students are the most vulnerable of all when it comes to this propaganda.
This is a battle for the hearts and minds of young Americans who are trapped into listening to this dawa.
And interesting and provocative example is the complete lack of tolerance that exists in Islam against for the infidel which persists wherever Muslims are.
Can we not forget what occurred on the public streets of Dearborn, Michigan a few years ago that was videoed and is a matter lerance. Of course most of you know about that example among hundreds of others.
The school administrators are operating from a complete ignorance of Islam and its aggressive practices. But to compound the issue, in their arrogance they choose to dismiss the loudly heard complaints and act like the proverbial ostrich. They choose to portend that they are wiser and more knowledgeable because the their lofted positions, they are foolishly wrong!
Amine El Khalifi, the moroccan would-be suicide bomber, thinks just like Hassan Shibley & Co(CAIR), he said that "the war on terror is a war against muslims" http://j.mp/y5Ze73. Anyone surprised? please.
Continued:
Muslims complained about Christians handing out Christian literature on a public sidewalk near a Muslim Fair in Dearborn,Michigan. The Dearborn Police arrested them on the complaints of the Muslims, yep it is almost hard to imagine that the Dearborn Police were being sharia compliant as they clearly violated these Americans their first Amendment rights.
Doesn't "Separation of Church and State" play into this somehow?
The suspicious part of this is that the school board members did not want to have a fair discussion on this with both sides being presented. Are they afraid of an ACLU lawsuit, are they just stunningly naive or have their bank accounts been fattened lately?
"They are seriously organized - who is paying them for all these resources?"
Ultimately, the sad truth is, we are funding CAIR. Everytime we go to the pump, we are putting dollars in their pocket, via the OPEC nations.
Not suprising, then, is it, that President O nixed the deal with Canada for an oil pipeline and decided to go with more oil from Saudi Arabia?
While I don't recall the Community Organizer bowing to the Prime Minister of Canada, here's a shot of him with some Saudis:
http://www.google.com/imgres?q=obama+bows+to+saudi+prince&hl=en&sa=X&rls=com.microsoft:en-US&tbas=0&biw=1024&bih=648&tbs=isz:m&tbm=isch&prmd=imvns&tbnid=boP35yKf2itg0M:&imgrefurl=http://iranpoliticsclub.net/animation-graphics/obama-bow/index.htm&docid=FJiygBaO31tuzM&imgurl=http://iranpoliticsclub.net/animation-graphics/obama-bow/images/Obama%252520bows%252520to%252520Saudi%252520King.jpg&w=520&h=413&ei=hOo_T9KJEKrv0gGeltHDBw&zoom=1&iact=rc&dur=234&sig=113398112361791899160&page=1&tbnh=125&tbnw=157&start=0&ndsp=13&ved=0CIABEK0DMA4&tx=105&ty=58
President O with the Saudis:
http://www.google.com/imgres?q=obama+bows+to+saudi+prince&hl=en&sa=X&rls=com.microsoft:en-US&tbas=0&biw=1024&bih=648&tbs=isz:m&tbm=isch&prmd=imvns&tbnid=boP35yKf2itg0M:&imgrefurl=http://iranpoliticsclub.net/animation-graphics/obama-bow/index.htm&docid=FJiygBaO31tuzM&imgurl=http://iranpoliticsclub.net/animation-graphics/obama-bow/images/Obama%252520bows%252520to%252520Saudi%252520King.jpg&w=520&h=413&ei=hOo_T9KJEKrv0gGeltHDBw&zoom=1&iact=rc&dur=234&sig=113398112361791899160&page=1&tbnh=125&tbnw=157&start=0&ndsp=13&ved=0CIABEK0DMA4&tx=105&ty=58
Ooops--sorry for the double post...mea culpa.
I was dumb-smacked from about min.19:20 onward, Does madame chairman REALLY think this is all about the teachers???
And the audacity of the other stupid lady (min 29.51) who proclaimed to the public paying HER salary "...it's important that we see that we don't have to change our procedures because we are pressured into it...".
Dr. White, if you have the good fortune to come across JW, this message is for you: DON'T GIVE IN.
Importation and distribution of the much hailed bullshit-o-meter would make a person rich from this video alone.
CAIR-canada lost its Charity Status from the Political Wing of islam that forced Sheema Khan to try to spread Shariah Law in canada and intimadated muslims in the Pre-Elections on Friday's during the prayers where they TOLD muslim who to vote for and TOLD them which Politician
to hound about banning the educated non-muslims coming to canada to expose the truth about Whahhabism and Khan's Con-job.
Sheema Khan jumped ship after the hamas terroism links were exposed and yet somehow she now works for apatent Firm and is Licensed by the Government as a Agent which is odd because you would think that being Pro-Terrorism/pro-hamas and endrosing pedophilia and murdering gays in gaza wouold set-off alarm bells by the H.R. worker that hired con-job Khan.
If you thin I'm joking, just check out this link and ask why the US Patent office allows a hamas-friendly pro-terrorism Whahhabi ex-member of CAIR to have a license that may be used to aid and abet CAIR to funnel money into and out of the USA via fake Patent applications.
http://miltonsip.com/our-people/dr-sheema-khan/
Khan had once sat on a Human Rights Board in canada that was equal to the ACLU , but when the Board took off their blinders and actually researched Kahn's past to see that SHE and CAIR crusaded for the evil Murderous homophobic Shariah law in canada.....they dumped her quicker than they signed her on. They also saw her ties to hamas and terrorism during her stay at CAIR as a puppet for the Whahhabi master in saudi Arabia.
Good ol' Taqqiyah by Con-job Khan, even her bio is a joke because she claims that her praents came to canada for the freedoms to raise her in a tolerant and just Society.
She sure learn about oppression and homophobia fast to grow up to crusade for Shariah law and honour killings that got 4 females drowned in canada and caused a 400% increase in Sharaih -Murders in canada since about 1992.
A weasel by any other name.
Mark Twain was right.
God created an idiot for practice, then made a school board.
From the article:
"Shibley is a local imam and said although he had joined CAIR last June, he had been speaking about Islam at the school for years including when he was a student in the district"
Let's think about that one.
'He had been speaking about Islam at the school for years."
Three possible translations, none of which excludes the other two:
"He had been doing da'wah for Islam at the school for years', or,
"He had been propagandising for Islam at the school for years', or
"He had been telling sugary lies about Islam at the school for years".
Also from the article:
"Shibley said the topics discussed at Steinbrenner High School included basic Muslim beliefs, Islamic history, Islam and human rights, religious tolerance and diversity, and popular misconceptions about Islam. He also talked to the student about “Islamophobia.”"
Question: is there anyone out there who attended or witnessed one or more of these little da'wa exercises - a former student of Steinbrenner High, for example - who can tell us precisely what Shibley said about, say, 'religious tolerance and diversity' and 'popular misconceptions about Islam'?
Did Mr Shibley give out any leaflets or handouts? Did he offer people Korans or recommend websites, or authors? I would like to know *exactly* what he said on these various topics.
In the meantime, every teacher at Steinbrenner High, and every member of the School Board, needs to be sent a copy of the booklet "What is Sharia?' put out by The Barnabas Fund (available from their website for about a dollar per booklet, and cheap at the price).
It is impeccably presented, clearly written, does NOT proseletise for Christianity although produced by a Christian organisation, and it lays things on the line.
The core of the booklet are the two pages that list, clearly, inescapably, "Five main areas in which sharia is incompatible with human rights'.
These comprise: 1/ 'Hudud punishments' - e.g. the death penalty for apostasy from Islam. 2/ The treatment accorded to Jews, Christians and other non-Muslims - "Discrimination on the basis of religion is fundamental to sharia. Islam must be dominant and only Muslims are full citizens, so Muslims are treated as far superior to all others...[Barnabas then lists some of the 'rules for dhimmis', such as the prohibition on bearing arms - a ban that ought to raise hackles among Americans, in particular - dda] The general attitude of contempt for non-Muslims created by centuries of applying such laws means that, even in modern secular (sic: supposedly secular, or superficially or somewhat secular - dda) states that have constitutionally guaranteed (on paper - dda) equal rights to all citizens, non-Muslims are discriminated against in numerous ways (and that's putting it very, very mildly - dda; to be blunt, there is NO majority-Muslim, Muslim-dominated state within which non-Muslims can be truthfully said to be in any real sense either free or safe - dda). Pagan non-Muslims were, in classical sharia, to be offered the choice of death or conversion to Islam".
3/ Muslim heretics and apostates...."All schools of sharia agree that adult male apostates from Islam should be killed. Even where the death sentence is not carried out, their marriages may be automatically dissolved, and they face severe penalties such as exile, disinheritance, loss of possessions, threats, beatings, torture, and prison...
(In other words: there is no such thing as freedom of speech, or freedom of conscience, where sharia reigns. - dda).
4/ Holy War - jihad. 'Sharia lays down jihad as one of the most basic religious duties, clearly indicating by the regulations listed that jihad is understood as physical warfare. Linked to this concept of jihad is the division of the world into two opposing domains - the House of Islam (dar al Islam) and the House of War (dar al Harb). Muslims are supposed to wage jihad to change the House of War (where non-Muslims are politically dominant) into the House of Islam (politically dominated by Muslims)..."
5/ Status of women. 'Sharia also discriminates on the basis of gender. Men are regarded as superior...Sharia rules...place women under the legal guardianship of their male relatives. Women are inherently of less value than men in many legal rulings...". ETC.
There's more, all of it strictly and indeed grimly accurate; there are references to contemporary examples and cases, so as to impress upon the reader that this is not a matter of dusty old rules that nobody bothers about any more; and at the end, one of the books that the reader can consult to find out more, is Yusuf al Qaradawi's "The Lawful and the Prohibited in Islam". Barnabas notes that Qaradawi is "one of the most influential contemporary Muslim scholars".
But just section four alone, on sharia-based sacralised discrimination against non-Muslims within Islamic states, should suffice to reveal that no matter what flowery lies Shibley may have spouted to naive students, Islam - classical, mainline, orthodox Islam, past and present - has never had any truck whatever with anything that we in the free Western world would construe as 'tolerance' and 'diversity'.
Just in case anybody from Steinbrenner High is lurking here today.
There are two little films that caused an immense sensation when they were made. You should hunt around on the internet until you find somewhere that you can watch them - they are there- and then you must sit down and watch them.
One is 'Submission'. The other is 'Fitna'.
'Submission' was made by feisty and brilliant ex-Muslim Ayaan Hirsi Ali, with the help of maverick Dutch film director Theo Van Gogh.
'Submission' is a beautiful, brief, quite 'arty', and at the same time no-holds-barred expose and critiqueof the ways in which Islam prescribes and condones the maltreatment of women. Ayaan herself had witnessed many of the abuses she condemns, in the course of her life and especially in her work as an interpreter working with mainly-Muslim 'refugees', immigrants and 'asylum seekers' in the Netherlands.
Theo Van Gogh was **murdered** by a Muslim - in broad daylight, in a street in Amsterdam. He was murdered because he was viewed as having 'blasphemed' against Islam by refusing to flatter it; by helping Ayaan make her movie.
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2004/11/theo-van-gogh-maker-of-submission-shot-dead-in-amsterdam.html
Sharia prescribes execution for 'blasphemy - for criticising or questioning or making fun of, any aspect of Islam whatsoever. Muslims believe that Mohammed strongly approved of and praised the assassinations of poets - one of them a pagan Arab woman named Asma bint Marwan, another an elderly Jewish man named Abu Afak - who had satirised himself and the Muslims. Muslims believe that the killings were just and justified. Theo Van Gogh was killed for exactly the same bad Islamic 'reasons' as Asma bint Marwan was killed.
And for apostasing from Islam, and also for 'blaspheming' against Islam in her film, Ayaan is in danger from the sharia hitmen, and must have bodyguards everywhere she goes. She has now compounded her 'crimes' against sharia by marrying an Infidel - women from Muslim families are NOT ALLOWED to take an infidel man as lover or husband (though Muslim men are allowed to do what they like with non-Muslim women, they are free to kidnap and rape the daughters and wives of non-Muslim men and this is perfectly halal, permissible ) - and having a child with him.
Watch 'Submission': and remember Theo Van Gogh, and bear in mind grimly henceforward that Islam - classical, mainstream Islam - does NOT value freedom of speech.
As for 'Fitna' - it was put together by one of the bravest men in Europe, Dutch politician and founder of the Party For Freedom (PVV), Geert Wilders. It draws attention to the way in which the texts in the Muslim 'scriptures', Quran and Hadith, illuminate and govern the things that many Muslims say and do today It includes translated clips of sermons by contemporary imams and Muslim political leaders.
Find it. Watch it. You will get a crash course in the ugly reality of Islam, Islam, Islam.
And now Geert Wilders too, like Ayaan, lives under continual threat of death from Muslims who do not like his exposure and critique of the many aspects of classic Islamic texts and teachings that violate our Western human rights principles. He must have bodyguards everywhere he goes.
Many Muslims, if they got the chance, would do to Ayaan, and to Geert, exactly what was done to Theo Van Gogh. You can bet on it.
The elderly Danish cartoonist Kurt Westergaard, who penned the Mohammed 'Turban Bomb' cartoon (imagine if, today, he were to follow it up with an inspired-by-actual-fact 'Mohammed Underpants Bomb' cartoon?) was attacked in his own home by a Somali Muslim 'immigrant', with an axe. This sharia-minded Muslim intended to punish Mr Westergaard for his 'blasphemy' against Mohammed, by chopping him to pieces with an axe.
And Muslims *dare* to whine about 'Islamophobia' and lecture us about 'tolerance', and complain if someone looks funny at a girl in a hijab!
*I* remember the body of Theo Van Gogh lying on a street in Holland, murdered by a Muslim; *I* remember Kurt Westergaard fleeing into his 'panic room' and hearing the allahu-akbaring thug whacking at the steel door with an axe; and, too, *I* think of a 48 year old Christian woman in Pakistan, sitting on death row because a bunch of malicious Muslim women howled 'blasphemer!' (they had been pestering her to convert to Islam, and she had politely refused, insisting that she preferred Jesus to Mohammed...BLASPHEMY!! And in Islamic Pakistan, the punishment for 'blasphemy' against Islam/ Mohammed/ sharia/ Muslims, is...death.)
The school and CAIR should be sued for violating the first Amendment of the US Constitution. In addition, mosques around Florida should be sued for promoting hate speech against non-Muslims as described in Koran and Hadith.
Islam itself is the root cause of terrorism around the world and 65% of Koranic suras and 90% of Hadith are incompatible with the Universal Declaration of Human Rights and US and EC Constitution. Islam is very similar to supremacist delusional Jew hating ideology of Nazism that lead to Holocaust. If Muslims had a chance there would be another Holocaust in the Middle East.
Unless Islam REFORMS, it has not place in the multicultural, multiracial and multireligious tolerant American society. The INTOLERANCE of Islam should NOT BE TOLERATED in a free society where human rights of ALL are protected!
We are catching on slowly !
I'm glad these parents in Florida are not giving up!
Islam (unlike the U.S.) has endless funding, has a 1400 year headstart. is 100% commited to their ideology, has several weapons, that are willing to die to move forward with the jihad, has warriors, moles, and spys in every country in the world, wears no uniform and therefor appears civilian, has no laws, rules, or boundries it must follow. Islam isn't concerned with political correctives.
Islam has followers in every department of the U.S. government. Islam has moles and followers in the U.S. Justice System. Islam has moles in the U.S. legislative branches of Congress and U.S. Senators.
Islam uses no less than 6 means of (under the radar) infiltration that win the victims trust just before they are behead.
Some refer to this type of war style as being stealth warfare. And it may take 50 years to accomplish. Jihad has as many faces as there are types of insects. All are very effective in forcing the enemies submission.
Islam also has moles in the U.S. military at all levels. The FBI and CIA both use Islamic instructors for their training and guide lines. The U.S. White House is surrounded with Islamic advisers and guidance.
Our public schools and universities have Islmic teachers, professors, and text books. And have had for several decades. Islam money (by hundreds of millions) is donated to 3/4's of our universities. Guess what its bias guidelines are.?
Our U.S. police departments are very influanced by Islam and their moles. That is how Islam was refeard to as being "The Religion Of Peace".
Sadly even our news media and churches have helped spread the lies and very bias mindsets and oppinions of Islam.
Soon the U.S. citizens will be jailed for speaking about Islam in a negitive way. Of course you may undercut Christian values and Jewish values all you want "No Problem". But don't you dare speak negitively about Islam.
Why do you think this happened.? How Do you think this happened.?
I've already told you, how and why. It's because of the Islamic bias that has been taught in our public schools, universities, Justice Departments, Department of Defense, legislative branch, city councils, and all other forms of our legal and constitutional values.
My friends Islam isn't trying to get into our country and nieghborhoods (they are already there) now they are trying to change it to their ideology in our country. And they are doing well it it. Soon Islam will be influancing every part of the U.S.A.. Unless we stop them.
Muslims are welcome here. But they will obey our constitution and laws, and not being their laws of Sharia over here.