Egyptian Muslim cleric: killing Assad is a duty for every Muslim

Thought experiment: when was the last time you heard of a Christian cleric saying that killing anyone for any reason was every Christian's duty? When was the last time you heard a Jewish rabbi call for Jews to kill anyone? A Hindu? A Buddhist? We report here at Jihad Watch with mind-numbing frequency about Muslim clerics calling for blood and death, and no one bats an eye. It is the soft bigotry of low expectations. Stop the Islamophobia: hold Muslim clerics to the same standard as all other clerics!

"Egyptian cleric issues death fatwa against Al Assad," by Ramadan Al Sherbini for Gulf News, March 16 (thanks to Wimpy):

Cairo: Egypt's prominent Muslim cleric Safwat Hejazi has said that the killing of Syrian President Bashar Al Assad is a duty for every Muslim.

"He who has the chance to kill Al Assad and does not do this is a sinner," Hejazi told a rally held in Cairo in support of a popular revolt against Al Assad's rule.

"Hadn't I been a known face, I would have gone myself and killed him," added Hejazi, who had a high profile during an uprising that forced long-serving Egyptian president Hosni Mubarak to step down last year.

Hejazi added that his anti-Al-Assad fatwa (a religious edict) has been echoed by many Muslim clerics....

So many Misunderstanders of Islam even among clerics! How does this happen?

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"The soft bigotry of low expectations" is the perfect come-uppance to the Left. It is spot on and makes them defend their bigotry and double standards in a way they are not used to and which they are ill-prepared to squirm out of. Hopefully it leads to some introspection and (hope springs eternal) reassessment of their attitudes. Miracles DO happen.....

We report here at Jihad Watch with mind-numbing frequency about Muslim clerics calling for blood and death, and no one bats an eye. It is the soft bigotry of low expectations. Stop the Islamophobia: hold Muslim clerics to the same standard as all other clerics!

But holding Muslim clerics to the same standard as all other clerics would be un-Islamic!

Right?

Well, Assad is not very popular in some quarters these days,
so I'm not surprised...Fatwas demanding any and all Mahoundians kill him is very sharia, and jihad like...
I'm expecting at some point a similar fatwa directed at a certain president...

Question : Why is it always every muslims "duty" to kill someone?
Christians have no "duty" to kill anyone. We must love our neighbors and our enemies and to do good to those who pesecute us!There is never any command in the New Testament of the Bible to kill anyone!(NB Luke 19:27 is a parable about the when Jesus returns to destroy all evil in the world)
Answer: Because Islam is a doctrine of demons and Allah is Satan.

What makes this more ironic (and more disgusting) is the fact that, in Hejazi's mind, Assad's only crime is being the leader of a non-Sunni regime. That, and putting up a fight when the Sunnis tried to remove him.

We in the West know that Assad's crimes are many; suffice it to say that he is not a nice man.

But something tells me Hejazi doesn't really have a problem with the overall brutality of Assad's regime (except to the extent that the brutality was directed at Sunnis), or with the fact that the Assad regime has been a sponsor of terrorism for decades.

The incoming regime in Egypt will be just as bad as, if not worse than, the Assads. But that will be OK, because the Sunnis will be in charge. Violence is only bad when non-Sunnis are abusing Sunnis; when Sunnis are slaughtering non-Sunnis (or even when Sunnis are killing each other), it's all good.

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And I'd say it's any Moslems's duty to kill any other Moslem who tries to kill Assad. Surely Assad has some tame imam on his staff who can issue a fatwad to that effect.

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Youssef

Duty of every Muslim? But there ain't 1.8 billion Assads, and even if the mullah in question wanted to murder every member of Bashar Assad's family, as well as everybody on earth w/ either first or last names of Assad, there still is nothing even close to a billion.

So how would every Muslim kill Assad, even assuming that he was taken prisoner like Gadaffi or Dr Najib?

In Islam killing is a "religious" duty - killing of all non-Muslims, honor killing, etc. It is a part of duty that also includes raping, looting, invading, taking everything away from non-Muslims since Mo/allah wants it, and then spreading this demonic ideology by converting non-Muslims to spare their lives who then succumb to this ideology and continue the same.

it is very simple. if every muslim threw a piece of a rock say as big as a lntiel, they they all kill assad.
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IP,

The cleric's exact words as translated were (with my emphasis)
"He who has the chance to kill Al Assad and does not do this is a sinner,"

So at minimum an able-bodied male Muslim with opportunity, access, and a weapon who can kill Assad has a duty to do so.

""Hadn't I been a known face, I would have gone myself and killed him," added Hejazi,"

Ah, the old "I'm famous-so-I-don't-have-to-follow-my-own-death-fatwa" excuse. We hear this a lot.

He's just following in a fine tradition. Here's Ayatollah Khomeini with a few choice words:

"Those who say Islam should not kill don't understand Islam. Killing is a divine gift that appears to man. A religion that does not include provisions for killing and massacre is incomplete."

Hey, don't worry - it's The Religion of Peace...

Muslim Clerics are often more closely aligned with military generals than Christian clerics . Islam is religion , goverenment, and a military force all rolled into one . Somewhat like the trinity in Christianity . God the father , Son ,and holy spirit are one and the same force . I see nothing wrong with the Islamic concept of keeping these , what we feel should be seperate forces , as one force . Our goverenments and army often do things that no christian would do . like wise muslims are allowed to committ crimes that no christian would do . The seperations confuse the muslims about Christianity and their non seperation confuses our judgement of them .

Muslim Clerics are often more closely aligned with military generals than Christian clerics . Islam is religion , goverenment, and a military force all rolled into one...I see nothing wrong with the Islamic concept of keeping these , what we feel should be seperate forces , as one force

So you think there is "nothing wrong" with societies that refuse to make a basic separation of state and religion? Anyone who seriously looks at how Islamic societies conduct business will see plenty of evidence to the contrary. So how can you rationally make that statement?

Robert: "when was the last time you heard of a Christian cleric saying that killing anyone for any reason was every Christian's duty?"

It was when I read a book about the Crusades.

In 1095 Pope Urban II said: "If you must have blood, bathe your hands in the blood of infidels ... soldiers of hell become soldiers of the living God."

How very un-Christian to fight back instead a turning the other cheek and love your enemy.

And somehow Pope Innocens IV misread the loving words of Christ: "If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned" (John 15:6), and thought they were a direct appeal and justification for Christians to burn all heretics and witches on the stake.

Mistakes happens and it should be said that most Christian clerics have learned from their mistakes, alas the Muslim clerics have not. On Sunday, March 12th, 2002, the Pope John Paul II apologized for the "errors of his church for the last 2000 years." And since then Christian clerics are only fighting a spiritual fight and they are even afraid to say a unloving word against homosexuals, Jews or Muslims.

But you can always find a Christian nutcase somewhere who warmly defend the death penalty. Like Phillip Kayser a pastor of the Dominion Covenant Church in Omaha, Nebraska, who in defense of the death penalty, writes:

"Whereas Hebrews 2:2 gives a blanket endorsement of all Old Testament penology as justice, the rest of the New Testament gives specifics. It teaches that homosexuals who come out of the closet are “worthy of death” (Rom. 1:32). It teaches that juvenile delinquents who abuse their parents can in certain circumstances “be put to death” (Mt. 15:3-9) and that rejection of this provision was to “transgress the commandment of God because of your tradition” (v. 3)."

But generally Christianity is a religion of tolerance, peace and love - you just can't convince everybody.

Robert: "when was the last time you heard of a Christian cleric saying that killing anyone for any reason was every Christian's duty?"

It was when I read a book about the Crusades.

Ole, then you never did hear of a Christian cleric saying that killing anyone was every Christian's duty. You have only read of it.

It probably happened even later during the Reformation and Counter-reformation, but you know what? I'll take Robert's use of the word heard to mean that what you read is of very little consequence for today's events.

"I'll take Robert's use of the word heard to mean that what you read is of very little consequence for today's events."

Are you a Christian fundamentalist?

I just listened to the WORDS of pastor Steve Anderson from the Faithful Word Baptist Church in Arizona who wants Barack Obama dead and the homosexuals exterminated to avoid infection of the society. Will that qualify?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-qr6gxIHhQ

Basic grammar for Muslims:
The present tense.
I kill
You kill
He/she/it kills
plural:
We kill
You kill
They kill

The future tense:
I will kill etc

More advanced lessons will cover subjunctive, conditional, imperatives and so on.

The student will be expected to master such subtle expressions as:
I ought to kill. Were I to kill. Would that I could kill.

Oh f*ck it!
Just kill the unbelievers wherever you find them!

Whenever commenting on any article in which Islam is the focal point, the only detail to work out is who is the murdered, or the murderer.

Usually, if not always, the latter is a Muslim.

People in the West, used to their freedom to chose what to believe, do not understand that Islam is enforced by Sharia law. A fatwa is basically a legal (under Sharia law) execution order. Sharia law claims worldwide jurisdiction, which is why Muslims have no qualms about unofficially enforcing Sharia law in the West and then running to the protection of a Muslim country or leader. Islam does not recognize the authority of any other form of law, and Muslims are told in the Qur'an and Sunna to kill those who malign or criticize or convert from Islam, even if they are relatives. Islam is very anarchical in that way, allowing individual Muslims to enforce Sharia law on those who are stepping out of the bounds of Islam. Of course, until there are enough Muslims/Muslims in power to enforce Sharia safely, Mohammad's doctrine of taysir excuses Muslims from enforcing Sharia law. But, here we have an Imam lifting taysir and expecting and demanding Muslims to kill someone who is declared apostate. Western countries should take note of how far they are from taysir being lifted.

I just listened to the WORDS of pastor Steve Anderson from the Faithful Word Baptist Church in Arizona who wants Barack Obama dead and the homosexuals exterminated to avoid infection of the society. Will that qualify?

No it does not. The words of your pet kook Christian (I'm tempted to put Christian in quotes, but let's not play that game, since Muslims do it too) cleric hoping for divine punishment on certain people requires a serious stretch of the imagination to equate it to Robert Spencer's question "when was the last time you heard of a Christian cleric saying that killing anyone for any reason was every Christian's duty?". Did Anderson or Kayser ever say anything that fits Robert's question? I would say no, unless it makes sense to demote the Deity to become "anyone" and make Him into Anderson's slave.

Are you a Christian fundamentalist?

I and most Christian fundamentalists I know would say no. If I were to explain my beliefs in detail to you then you would probably say yes. Therefore you would be outvoted.

BTW, Anderson's tirade on Youtube was so odious I hit the dislike button. Listening to that was a complete waste of my time. I (and many others) are fully aware that people like this exist, I don't need to wallow in the mire.

Please don't drag in this filth again, it contributes nothing to JihadWatch.

Eric

you wrote - "Muslim Clerics are often more closely aligned with military generals than Christian clerics".

With generals? Nah - they're much more like Mafia dons. Gang bosses.

"Hadn't I been a known face, I would have gone myself and killed him,"

What a laugh.

I'm not sure if I've ever heard of a "cleric" being a suicide bomber, soldier or anything pro-active. It always seems they're encouraging other people to do things while they go and hide or cringe or whatever it is they do when they're not shooting their cowardly mouths off.

"The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His apostle and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement." Sura 5:33

01,2 (Reliance of the Traveller) "The following are not subject to retaliation: . . . a Jewish or a Christian subject of the Islamic state for killing an apostate from Islam (because . . . killing an apostate is without consequences)."

Muslims who make mischief (i.e., acting against Islam) and are apostate can even be killed by Jews and Christians without punishment under Sharia law. Islam is a closed and self-perpetuating system. People are conquered, subjugated (humiliated, plundered, and oppressed) until they convert, People are lied to until they convert (tagiyya). Then, they can be murdered if they go against or reject Islam.

"Are you a Christian fundamentalist?

I and most Christian fundamentalists I know would say no. If I were to explain my beliefs in detail to you then you would probably say yes. Therefore you would be outvoted."

Of course you would say no, even radical Islamists say no when asked if they are fundamentalists:

"Ayatollah Muhammad Hussein Fadlallah, the spiritual mentor of Hizbullah, was asked by an English-language periodical in 1992 whether he thought fundamentalist or Islamist was more appropriate. Like Ghannushi and Turabi, Fadlallah rejected fundamentalist because of its "violent" associations. But like Madani, he also found Islamist unacceptable. It was a term "used by outsiders to denote a strand of activity which they think justifies their misconception of Islam as something rigid and immobile, a mere tribal affiliation." And his conclusion was identical to Madani's: "Having thought a good deal about this matter, I am satisfied to use the word 'Muslim,' which includes all the activities carried on within the scope and fold of Islam." (Quoted from Middle East Quarterly, Spring 2003, pp. 65-77).

All believers think of themselves as the only true believers and would of course reject any description of their faith by words giving strongly pejorative associations - such as the word fundamentalism.

The term fundamentalism originated in America in the 1920s. As the pace of social change accelerated, Protestant Christians felt threatened by the higher criticism of the Bible and the spread of philosophical skepticism. They sought to reaffirm their belief in the literal text of the Bible and the "fundamentals" of Christian belief, including creationism. These Christians called themselves fundamentalists, a term that gained wide currency at the time of the Scopes ("Monkey") trial in 1925. At the time, it acquired a strongly pejorative association in the minds of liberals and modernists.

In a way it is a voting matter, and that is why the word "fundamentalist" has a very negative connotation these days, unless of course you are yourself a fundamentalist and believe in or belong to:

"a movement in American Protestantism that arose in the early part of the 20th century in reaction to modernism and that stresses the infallibility of the Bible not only in matters of faith and morals but also as a literal historical record, holding as essential to Christian faith belief in such doctrines as the creation of the world, the virgin birth, physical resurrection, atonement by the sacrificial death of Christ, and the Second Coming.

2.
the beliefs held by those in this movement.

3.
strict adherence to any set of basic ideas or principles: the fundamentalism of the extreme conservatives."

(Quoted from Dictionary.com).

Bascially and in principle you are no different from a radical Muslim who believes in the infallibility of the Qur'an and the Prophet Muhammad as a perfect man. You just believe in other holy Scriptures revealed to man with the same blindness or devotion.

Some say that Nazism and Leninism are closely related, that the extreme right and the extreme left has a lot in common. The same argument could be made about Christian and Islamic fundamentalism, and I thank you for confirming this thesis.

Egyptian Muslim cleric: killing Assad is a duty for every Muslim
.............................

That would be Fard Ayn—a duty for every Muslim, rather than Fard Kifayah—a duty for the Muslim community in general.

Of course, the idea that it might be rather troubling to consider the assassination of someone deemed "insufficiently Islamic" a "religious duty" never comes up...

More:

Thought experiment: when was the last time you heard of a Christian cleric saying that killing anyone for any reason was every Christian's duty? When was the last time you heard a Jewish rabbi call for Jews to kill anyone? A Hindu? A Buddhist? We report here at Jihad Watch with mind-numbing frequency about Muslim clerics calling for blood and death, and no one bats an eye. It is the soft bigotry of low expectations. Stop the Islamophobia: hold Muslim clerics to the same standard as all other clerics!
.............................

So true—and yet, Muslims consider the clerics of other faiths a bunch of pussies for failing to whip the faithful up into homicidal rages on a regular basis...

More:

"He who has the chance to kill Al Assad and does not do this is a sinner"...

Hejazi added that his anti-Al-Assad fatwa (a religious edict) has been echoed by many Muslim clerics....
.............................

Why don't we hear about Fatwas calling for Muslims to open doors for people whose arms are full of heavy packages? Why isn't it considered an "obligation on every Muslim" to give a big smile to the eccentric pensioner over on Main Street who holds up the "Smile" sign every weekday for the morning commute? What is it *always with the death and killing*? OK, OK, silly question, I know...

"a movement in American Protestantism that arose in the early part of the 20th century in reaction to modernism and that stresses the infallibility of the Bible not only in matters of faith and morals but also as a literal historical record, holding as essential to Christian faith belief in such doctrines as the creation of the world, the virgin birth, physical resurrection, atonement by the sacrificial death of Christ, and the Second Coming.

Excepting the literal interpretation of the Biblical creation story, everything in that quote applies to the vast majority of Catholics and Orthodox as well as nearly all Protestants. It is all central to orthodox Christianity of all denominations. Your quote was written by an ignoramus.

Of course you would say no [to being a Christian fundamentalist], even radical Islamists say no when asked if they are fundamentalists...

Some say that Nazism and Leninism are closely related, that the extreme right and the extreme left has a lot in common. The same argument could be made about Christian and Islamic fundamentalism, and I thank you for confirming this thesis.

You, sir, have crossed into troll territory. Big time.

I generally try to respect differences of opinions with respect to my own, but here you personally equate me with Islamic fundamentalists, even though my previous post on the Anderson Youtube post proves I have no sympathy with the extremes of American fundamentalism. In consequence you can forget any civility from me in the future. I'd advise you to find another forum for your bigotry.

BTW I have NEVER posted this sort of protest before to ANYONE on the Internet. You should take a good look at yourself - if you have any conscience at all.

@Ole Hartling

Tsk, tsk, tsk... the christians crusades where in retaliation for the muslim crusades. Learn to history.

Oh and btw, i'm an atheist. You just lost the game before even starting it.

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