Muslim in Toulouse after jihad massacre: "We’re the victims in the story"

We see it again and again: every time there is a jihad attack or a foiled jihad plot, the mainstream media focuses attention on the poor victimized Muslims, publishing story after story about a backlash against innocent Muslims that never actually materializes, and thereby attempting to shift focus away from jihad mass murder and onto the Muslims as victims, needing special protection and deserving to be exempt from especial scrutiny. In other words, we're the real victims here, so lay off the counterterror investigations.

Does anyone fall for this nonsense anymore? Oh, yes, they certainly do. That's why the New York Times and other mainstream media outlet keep churning this nonsense out by the pound.

"After Killings in France, Muslims Fear a Culture of Diversity Is at Risk," by Scott Sayare for the New York Times, March 27 (thanks to Ron):

TOULOUSE, France — As near to the Spanish border as it is to the Mediterranean, this sunny red-brick city has long been known as a place of welcome and diversity, far removed from the divisive politics of Paris. In contrast to much of the French south, the far right, with its virulent anti-immigrant stance, has little presence here. Nor does radical Islam.

Toulouse is by no means without racism, anti-Semitism, crime or the deep social segregation that marks many French cities, but with a culture shaped by successive waves of immigration, it is described by its inhabitants as a place of particular tolerance....

So while Muslims across France speak of feeling vilified, this city has largely been spared the tensions that surround Islam. “It is true that from time to time we are subjected to hateful political discourse,” said Mohamed Tataï, the imam at the mosque El Nour in Empalot, a poor neighborhood. It is effectively imported from outside the city, though, he said, often around election time. “Afterwards, we’re able to return to calm once again.”

There are concerns, though, that Mohammed Merah may have changed that.

The seven brutal killings carried out this month by Mr. Merah — a 23-year-old son of Toulouse, and a professed jihadi — occurred during a divisive presidential race that had already turned toward questions of immigration and Islam. Even though investigators say Mr. Merah was effectively a lone, self-radicalized extremist, his violent ideology fits closely with some French stereotypes of Islam, and Muslims here fear that the tensions brought on by the murders may prove more lasting.

“All of this does not correspond at all with what Toulouse is,” Pierre Cohen, the mayor, said of the killings. But “we’ve just come out of a very tense period,” he said. “Unfortunately, this risk exists.”

Already, a false rumor has spread through the city, Mr. Cohen said, suggesting that Muslims were organizing a demonstration in defense of Mr. Merah.

“There will be a ‘before’ and an ‘after,’ ” said Yassin Elmu’min, 23, a round-faced young man with blue eyes and short hair slicked into tight curls. Typically, Mr. Elmu’min said, there is “dialogue” between cultures in Toulouse, and Muslims are treated well. But he and other Muslims, many living in the poor suburbs outside downtown Toulouse, said they had already begun to detect nervous gazes that were uncharacteristic of this city.

“Someone had the nerve to ask me, ‘Do you agree with what he did?’ ” Mr. Elmu’min said, exasperated. President Nicolas Sarkozy called for the rejection of “easy falsehoods” about Muslims last week, after Mr. Merah was killed by police commandos, Mr. Elmu’min said. “The ‘easy falsehoods’ are already here,” he lamented.

A friend, Abd’allah, 19, dressed in a cream-colored djellaba beneath a hooded sweatshirt, said, “We’re the victims in the story.” He declined to give his full name, saying he feared trouble from the French authorities.

Despite Mr. Sarkozy’s recent appeals for tolerance, many Muslims say he has done much to stigmatize them, pointing often to a 2010 law banning the Islamic full veil, or niqab, and to a debate on “the national identity.”

Marine Le Pen, the presidential candidate for the far-right National Front, has been vociferous in her response to the killings.

“What happened is not the matter of one man’s madness; what happened is the beginning of the forward march of green fascism in our country,” Ms. Le Pen said on Sunday, referring to radical Islam. “How many Mohammed Merahs are there in the boats, the planes that arrive each day in France, full of immigrants?”

Muslim leaders have denounced such attempts to exploit the killings politically. In a statement shortly after Mr. Merah’s death last week, Mohammed Moussaoui, the president of the French Council for the Muslim Faith, asked that the term “Islamism” be abandoned because it “feeds the confusion between Islam and terrorism and brings suffering to millions of Muslims who feel it important to defend the dignity of their faith and their religion.”

Ironic: in America the term "Islamism" is used by those who want to obfuscate the connection between Islam and terrorism, and specifically the ways in which Islamic jihadists use the texts and teachings of Islam to recruit and motivate terrorists.

In Toulouse, Mr. Elmu’min and his friend had come from Friday Prayer at the Mosque of Mirail Toulouse, a sprawling makeshift prayer space in a temporary building at the edge of a mall parking lot, beneath the elevated railroad tracks at the terminus of Line A of the Métro.

Mamadou Daffé, the Malian-born imam at the mosque, said he had never been the target of so much as a racist remark in Toulouse.

What race is Islam again?

“None, none at all,” Mr. Daffé said. “Maybe this is surprising, but so be it.”

Mr. Daffé, who makes his living as a pharmacological researcher, describes himself as a moderate Muslim, a proponent of “local Islam” who preaches in French.

But in his address to the hundreds of men who gathered at the mosque on Friday — some in white djellabas, thick beards and skullcaps, but most in jeans, suit coats or leather jackets — he spoke angrily of the “injustices” being wrought against Muslims in France, especially after the killings.

Politicians have called for restraint, Mr. Daffé said, but those same politicians have long stoked the very hate they now say they must smother. He called upon the faithful to be exemplary in their behavior, though.

“We are responsible for the image that’s been given to Islam, this beautiful religion,” he said. With the murders, which Mr. Merah said he committed in the name of Islam, “God has tested us,” Mr. Daffé said.

His fellow cleric, Mr. Tataï, has led a project to build a grand mosque in Toulouse. A decade ago, local authorities were opposed, Mr. Tataï recalled, but gradually warmed to the notion. The domed, multistory ocher building, at the edge of the Empalot neighborhood, adjacent to the highway, is now almost complete. (Uncharacteristically, the mosque will be open to the non-Muslim public, outside hours of prayer.)

“Of course there is the fear that there will be backlash from the black week we’ve just lived through,” Mr. Tataï said.

He added, “This is a test of the good will and wisdom of the wise.” He remains optimistic.

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See? these pedohammedans are a bunch of pathological sociopaths.

Sick mofos.

"Muslims Fear a Culture of Diversity Is at Risk"

Where?. In countries with a muslim majority? oh right, muslims can do whatever they want in their countries, they can persecute/prosecute other cultures, and they can instaurate, establish a caste system-sharia law- where their culture, ideology is the only one that's acceptable, where their culture reigns supreme and no diversity is tolerated.

The buffoonery, moral duplicity continues, sponsored by radical western media like the NYT, The Guardian, HuffPost, WaPo... etc.

http://www.caircan.ca/ann_more.php?id=3152_0_9_0_C


CAIR-canada is now importing the ground-Zero "Victory" mosque Imam Rauf to speak about the rampant "islamophibia" and how to stop it.
CAIR-Can lost the Charity-Status from the CRA once they became Political and were caught with ties to Hamas and global funding of Terrorism via canadian donations.
I DO NOT want to deny CAIR the Right to be a jew-hating oppressive org that will be exposed in the Court of Public opinion and shunned from their stance to endorse pedophilia and Homophobia to support murdering gays in saudi Arabia.
What I do want is for the enlightened and modern Societies to shine a light on this Death-Cult/7th century Socialism that needs to die a sudden death to throw on the garbage heap of history for failed Super-Races and Communistic thugs .

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Wednesday, March 28, 2012 1:32 pm

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Imam Feisal is Chairman of the Cordoba Initiative, an independent, multi-national project that works to "Re-connect the Muslim World and the West." In 1997, he founded the American Society for Muslim Advancement (ASMA), the first Muslim organization committed to bringing American Muslims and non-Muslims together through programs in academia, policy, current affairs, and culture.

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People should protest the Hyatt Chain and send them a message that they will not favour their Chain is they give space for a pro-hamas radical Imam that threatened the West with violence of the Ground-zero Mosque is NOT build. CAIR and the G-Zero Mosque has ties to the Whahhabi saudi's that murder gays and flog females , Dr.Sheema Khan had crusaded for Shariah in canada to endorse pedophilia and misogyny along with oppression of homosexuals.

The CBC and pro-islamist MSM will not report these facts to Canadians and we already know that the Khadr terrorist Omar Khadr is the buddy of the CBC and NDPer's that coddled the Jihadist and islamist in canada.
Imam Rauf is trying to sell his snake-Oil and poison in canada to icite muslim youth into joining the Jihad terrorism and attack the USA from canada as Ahmed Ressam tried in 2000 to do to bomb the LAX airport.

CAIR knows that Michael Coren and Ezra levant are educating candians about the Jihad and Honour killing in canada and the West in general, Rauf wants to find his useful idiots in the radical moques in Toronto and compund the already existing paranoia that evryone is attacking islam and muslims.

Rauf will pay the "Victim" card and tell them that they will LIE about islam and misquote the Quran and muhammed.

Let Hyatt know you are shocked that they now endorse the Homophobic/misogynistic/pedophilia friendly CAIr and ground-Zero Imam coming to canada to spew hatred for jews and non-muslims in general.

BTW

Did you see this.....
"NOTE: There will be NO fundraising segment to the dinner"

Several years back CAIR was a Sponsor of the Muslimfest in Mississauga where CAIR boldly posted a Notice that it was Halal to Donate Zakat for the Relief Efforts in lebanon to send money to the victims of israeli aggression.
CAIR did not mention that they meant Hizballah efforts in Terrosim in 2006 for their illegal terrorism war on a Democratic U.N. member Nation as Hizballah used civilians as shields.
CAIR also had held a "Victory" dinner for the alleged Al-Qeada sleeper cell member Maher Arar that was caught trying to sneak into the USA at JFK from Tunisia to escape the Police raid on his home for ties to the palestian Brotherhood via his Palestian wife. CAIR used that Victory Dinner to raise money to spread shariah law in canada via Human Rights crusades for muslims to practise Whahhabi islam on candian soil, the list of guests included the jew-hater Dr.Elamsry the endorsed murdering any israeli over 18, the Khadr Imam Aly Hindy who wants to see females hung from lightpole in canada for adultry and gays murdered,then there was NDP and Liberal MP's too stupid to see they were being used like stooges.

CAIR must be getting watched by the CRA and CSIS and the RCMP for any pro-jihad fund-raising to funnel it to Global terrorism or recruit more 9/11 suicide-jihadists to get bogus Citizenships from the saudis and then trained by the Taliban to hijack planes and slaught 1000's for Allah peace .
I hope the RCMP and CSIS have people at the event to make arrests once Rauf incites hatred for jews and gays and calls for terrorism to those that oppose the G-Zero Mosque.But I prefer that a protest at Hyatt will stop this homophobe from coming to canada and spewing his pro-pedophilia mohammadian crap.

It will seem bizarre to most reasonable people, but in many cultures and psychologies victimhood confers high status.

It's not that far out if you think about it. Everybody knows someone who makes a big deal out of what a victim they think themselves to be, because they are broke, or sick, or experienced a loss or a run of bad luck or whatever. And everyone has figured out that such people get a kick out of thinking that way.

Well here's a titanic example.

Since a victim, in the mohammedan mind, is a special person deserving special privileges, the idea that Jews were victims in this matter is deeply annoying to them.

This is all about mohammedans saying WE'RE the special people here, not those lousy Jews.

Once conquerors of half the world Moslems now are the world's greatest victims, whose hands are compassionately held by the understanding left. How pathetic.

"President Nicolas Sarkozy called for the rejection of 'easy falsehoods' about Muslims last week...."

Yes, it's time to abandon the "easy falsehoods" like "Islam is a religion of peace" and "Mohammed said there is no compulsion in religion."
After Merah, it's time to confront the hard truth that Islam is a millenium-old ideology of oppression, tyranny, and slaughter.

“Someone had the nerve to ask me, ‘Do you agree with what he did?’ ”
Should read: "Someone understandably asked me..."

“The ‘easy falsehoods’ are already here,”
Yes. They're called Islamic Taqqya.

"..Muslims who feel it important to defend the dignity of their faith and their religion.."
Precisely the excuse of the "honor"-killer!

I am so sick of muslims crying foul. so sick.
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So while Muslims across France speak of feeling vilified

Yeah, bad luck, crap always flows downhill… The more they act out, the worse it gets. Bad luck to be born into that primitive retro-culture of the 7th century Arabian desert bandits, fancily decked out with plundered loot as 'religious' believers… Bad luck 'victims', your Arabian Moon-god tested you again… and abandoned you.

Muslim in Toulouse after jihad massacre: "We’re the victims in the story"

Isn't that the same rationalization used by urban blacks in America, specifically Detroit vis á vis violence?
The crime rate spikes - it's someone else's fault,
Anti-Semitism spikes, it must be the fault of "The Man",
"Open borders are great!" - So while the United States allows entry of far too many people, it's OUR fault because the immigrants act on on their racialist agenda.
Europe, particularly France, has been MUCH too late in embracing the view that saving ones ancient culture is to preserve ones way of life, celebrate ones ancestry, and actually be proud of those who fought and died to install and preserve democracy.
The immigrant interlopers who seek to impose their racist, entitlement mentality, all the while bellowing about "hate crimes", etc. are simply deflecting guilt for their atavistic behavior.
Europe is FINALLY waking up. Unfortunately, the race-hustlers here AND abroad label conservatives as the ones responsible for the violence. Mental health issues abound - especially cognitive dissonance.
Victimology = Absolution from all responsibility.
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Mr. Daffé, who makes his living as a pharmacological researcher, describes himself as a moderate Muslim, a proponent of “local Islam” who preaches in French.

One would have to be daffy to believe Mr. Daffé's self-description.

And just what, exactly, is he pharmacologically researching? Effective toxins and their dispersion?

Mr. Daffé, .....describes himself as a moderate Muslim,....

No relation to Daffé Duck, by any chance? :))

Clown!

If it walks like a duck, wears a djellaba, and talks out of both sides of its beak, you can be sure it ain't Daffy. ;-)

Islam and its lazy hordes of scroungers. The religion
of back stabbing murderous traitors and liars. We do not want you here.

A tourists view!

You can almost hear the birds chirping!!

Notice how the report skews anything that the French do in favour of society's norms - as negative.

People will raise eyebrows after an attack - it's human instinct - it's called survival.


but with a culture shaped by successive waves of immigration...

This is a misconception about Islamic immigration in Europe - most Muslim immigrant families aspire to bring in a new immigrant - through the marriage of one [or all] of their of their children - so that the immigration - from the Muslim world to Europe is never ending.

Marriage immigration - is going to be one of the issues that the European electorate is going to want to deal with in the future.

The question is going to be - with all the integration problems - added with the calls for Shari'a law or the Islamizing of European society - why don't European governments work with the people they have?

Why are the immigrants allowed to dictate the immigration policy?

Which is what the debate on the French identity was about. It asks people to state publicly how the wish to live - bringing the argument front and center - this in the face of a growing Muslim population pushing for laws and norms more akin to North Africa. [And people are trying to flee those countries! Many believe they want to import a failed system.]

. .and beschides, Daffé wouldn't dare appear in a 'toon with Porky Pig :-)

Boo-hoo, lemme get my tissues and weep with you ...honk! blow! honk!

Really? ...victims my arse ..oh and you guys are so funny with your daffy-duck jokes, lol! :)

They have the *hide* to spout and try to pose as victims, while the blood of those Jewish children and that rabbi on the floor of the Jewish school courtyard is still barely dry.

Good god, this is revolting.

Where is the newspaper that will have the balls to publish a picture of one of these Muslim whiners moaning and posing and peddling his false sob story, alongside CCTV footage of the Mohammedan butcher clutching little Miriam Monsanego by the ponytail and blasting her point-blank with a pistol to the head?

One possible caption: 'Jew-hating Muslim murders Jewish schoolgirl; Muslims cry 'we are victims, pity us!".

Time to re-post a classic.


http://sultanknish.blogspot.com/2011/11/dangers-of-legitimizing-islamic.html
Sunday, November 13, 2011
The Dangers of Legitimizing Muslim Grievances

And for good measure, a couple of equally incisive articles by one David Thompson:

1. It's OK to Dislike Islam
http://davidthompson.typepad.com/davidthompson/2007/03/intimidation_re.html

and 2. 'The Passive-Aggressive Jihad'
http://davidthompson.typepad.com/davidthompson/2007/03/the_passiveaggr.html


I am very, very tired of the Religion of Perpetual Outrage, the Religion of Perpetual Whining, which is *also* the Religion of Murder, of Hate, of Rape and Robbery and Slavery.

"“Someone had the nerve to ask me, ‘Do you agree with what he did?’ ” Mr. Elmu’min said, exasperated."

And what was the reply?

"Since a victim, in the mohammedan mind, is a special person deserving special privileges, the idea that Jews were victims in this matter is deeply annoying to them.

This is all about mohammedans saying WE'RE the special people here, not those lousy Jews."

Perhaps this explains their desire to deny the Holocaust? Kinda makes sense, doesn't it?

"...most Muslim immigrant families aspire to bring in a new immigrant - through the marriage of one [or all] of their of their children - so that the immigration - from the Muslim world to Europe is never ending."

This would help explain why islam is currently Europe's "fastest growing religion."

It has less to do with conversion from another faith, and more with muslim immigration and fecundity.

Muslim in Toulouse after jihad massacre: "We’re the victims in the story"
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My God—*what gall*.

Three French police officers are badly wounded, three French servicemen are murdered, as is a Rabbi and three *little Jewish children*, and it is—surprise, surprise!—*Muslims* who are the supposed true victims in the story.

F*ck that.

More:

We see it again and again: every time there is a jihad attack or a foiled jihad plot, the mainstream media focuses attention on the poor victimized Muslims, publishing story after story about a backlash against innocent Muslims that never actually materializes, and thereby attempting to shift focus away from jihad mass murder and onto the Muslims as victims, needing special protection and deserving to be exempt from especial scrutiny. In other words, we're the real victims here, so lay off the counterterror investigations.
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Exactly, and I'm sick of it. Along with providing security to the Jewish schools where the Rabbi and the three small children were killed—and where a 12-year-old boy was beaten up by assailants screaming antisemitic slogans—authorities are also providing police security to Muslim schools—even though there have been no threats made against Muslims at all, and all the violence has been Muslims violently targeting Infidels.

"'Youths reciting anti-Semitic slogans' beat up 12-year-old Jewish boy in Paris"

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2012/03/youths-reciting-anti-semitic-slogans-beat-up-12-year-old-jewish-boy-in-paris.html

More:

"After Killings in France, Muslims Fear a Culture of Diversity Is at Risk," by Scott Sayare for the New York Times
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I'm so sick of the lauding of "diversity" in and of itself. A lot of "diversity" really is quite enriching, but unqualified "diversity" is no virtue. If the "diversity" in question is the importation of Muslim violence into civilized France, that is certainly "diverse", but it is no culture that any sane Frenchman should care to preserve—anymore than Fascism.

More:

TOULOUSE, France — As near to the Spanish border as it is to the Mediterranean, this sunny red-brick city has long been known as a place of welcome and diversity, far removed from the divisive politics of Paris. In contrast to much of the French south, the far right, with its virulent anti-immigrant stance, has little presence here. Nor does radical Islam.
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Were to start? Firstly, this posits that civilized Spaniards are no different than violent Muslims, which is calumny against people from Spain. Then to imply that Paris—one of the great cities of the world, is some sort of provincial berg riven by xenophobia is just stupid. You find people from all over the world in cosmopolitan Paris.

If people there have become leery of Islam, perhaps it is because of Muslim riots, mass car burnings, and that horrific bit of Muslim "culture" in France, the "Tournante" (Muslim gang rape).

As for the claim that there is little "radical" Islam in southern France, this is just ridiculous. Marseille in particular is home to many anything but moderate Muslims.

"France: Muslim man punches nurse who attempted to lift burqa on wife who was in labor"

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2011/12/france-muslim-man-punches-nurse-who-attempted-to-lift-burqa-on-wife-who-was-in-labor.html

And this story, where a woman was *stoned to death* in the south of France, is even more alarming:

"Stoning in France"

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2004/11/stoning-in-france.html

More:

Toulouse is by no means without racism, anti-Semitism, crime or the deep social segregation that marks many French cities, but with a culture shaped by successive waves of immigration, it is described by its inhabitants as a place of particular tolerance....
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Worse and worse. This implies that most French cities are racist and bigoted. France has actually offered enormous opportunities to immigrants, including Muslims. While French policies should not be above criticism, the fact is that France has been *very* to immigrants—given recent events, almost certainly too much so, at least when it comes to violent Muslims.

More:

So while Muslims across France speak of feeling vilified, this city has largely been spared the tensions that surround Islam.
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Does it matter that the "tensions that surround Islam" mostly consists of Muslims violently targeting French people? What are you, some kind of "Islamophobe"? sarc/off

More:

Even though investigators say Mr. Merah was effectively a lone, self-radicalized extremist, his violent ideology fits closely with some French stereotypes of Islam...
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*Disgusting*—the idea that concern over murderous Muslim violence is nothing more than "French stereotypes of Islam".

More:

Already, a false rumor has spread through the city, Mr. Cohen said, suggesting that Muslims were organizing a demonstration in defense of Mr. Merah.
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What a crazy idea! What would make French Infidels think that anything like *that* could happen? Uh...maybe this:

"Police stop Islamic demonstration in France for Mohamed Merah"

http://vladtepesblog.com/?p=46207

More:

But he and other Muslims, many living in the poor suburbs outside downtown Toulouse, said they had already begun to detect nervous gazes that were uncharacteristic of this city.
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You hear this perversity all the time—as though being frightened of Muslim violence is itself a form of oppressing Muslims. Grotesque.

More:

“Someone had the nerve to ask me, ‘Do you agree with what he did?’ ” Mr. Elmu’min said, exasperated.
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The nerve! Uh...notice, he never actually got around to answering that question...

More:

A friend, Abd’allah, 19, dressed in a cream-colored djellaba beneath a hooded sweatshirt, said, “We’re the victims in the story.” He declined to give his full name, saying he feared trouble from the French authorities.
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Note the implication here—which the NYT "journalist" does nothing to challenge—that if the "victims" dare openly complain, that they will be harassed or worse by oppressive French authorities. Grotesque.

More:

In Toulouse, Mr. Elmu’min and his friend had come from Friday Prayer at the Mosque of Mirail Toulouse, a sprawling makeshift prayer space in a temporary building at the edge of a mall parking lot, beneath the elevated railroad tracks at the terminus of Line A of the Métro...

Mamadou Daffé...in his address to the hundreds of men who gathered at the mosque on Friday — some in white djellabas, thick beards and skullcaps, but most in jeans, suit coats or leather jackets — he spoke angrily of the “injustices” being wrought against Muslims in France, especially after the killings...
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Apparently the NYTs saw fit to withhold one very salient bit of information—this is the *mosque that the murderous Jihadist Mohammed Merah attended*.

Read more here:

"At Toulouse killer's mosque, doubt reigns"

http://timesofnews.co/2012/03/26/at-toulouse-killers-mosque-doubt-reigns

The translation is a bit clunky, but you can see how the members of this supposedly moderate mosque are hinting darkly about conspiracy theories involving the French authorities, and are heavily implying that Merah was innocent.

No hint of this from the NYT, though...

I actually hadn't put those two together myself. But I think you're definitely on to something.

It would make perfect sense. Far better than any other explanation of Holocaust denial that I've seen so far.

Occam's razor.

Nice catch.

This from "At Toulouse killer's mosque, doubt reign"

"I'm not certain what happened, though during this impulse we have my doubts about it," pronounced Mamar Messaoul, 34, a proprietor of a neighborhood, called Basso-Cambo, one of France's large suburbs, or 'banlieuses,' renowned by their unconstrained expanses of concrete, bunker-like unit blocks, and their poverty."
Several things wrong here: 1) speaker parrots common refrain from Muslims whenever one of theirs commits jihad atrocities, "we're not sure of the fact, don't know what to believe, etc" but are quick to jump on any conspiracy theories that exonerates the perpetrators; 2) note the obligatory derogatory description of public housing, as if there was some entitlement to Versailles like living conditions for immigrants; 3) the obligatory "poverty" is thrown in. Maybe arresting more perps in the post jihad-murder dragnet in France is step in right direction, but media is still clueless of what they write. They obviously haven't read the Book.

All good points, Battle of Tours.

As for them not having "read the book", of course, I'm sure many of them are—like Mohammed Merah himself—all too versed in at least its broadest tenets. (Good link, by the way)

Additionally, they are *also* all too well versed in both Muslim supremacy and the unfortunate "victim culture" that has recently developed in the modern West, which will get them excused from almost any barbarity by clueless left-wing idiots like teacher Lorraine Collin, whose heart bleeds for every thug, but who spares not a thought for his victims:

"France: Teacher faces suspension for calling Toulouse jihad murderer a 'victim,' calling for moment of silence"

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2012/03/france-teacher-faces-suspension-for-calling-toulouse-jihad-murderer-a-victim-calling-for-moment-of-s.html

Crocodile Tears -- Literally

I think it's reasonable to assume that when Muslims whine and complain in various victomological ways, they are not really feeling the emotions expressed in the rhetoric -- i.e., it is all calculated propaganda, acted out, scripted, with a pretense at the real feeling that would otherwise motivate an authentically aggrieved person in the real (non-Muslim) world: i.e., it's just another form of Jihad.

Just as we have Jihad of the Pen, and Jihad of the Sword, and Jihad of Childbearing, and Jihad of Zakat, and Jihad of Immigration -- we must add to the list Jihad of Victimization.

The only complaint about which a Muslim may be said to feel genuinely aggrieved is the perennial, perpetual complaint that any acres on Earth remain not dominated by Islamic law.

All else they say and do is just a diverse multitude of ploys -- some passive, some passive-aggressive, and some aggressive -- obsessively and fanatically with an eye on the prize: the world under Islam, and then their Second Coming. By now, surely even the dullest, densest of Muslims have realized that the West is juicily ripe for exploiting the ploy of the aggrieved victim -- especially when that victim is perceived to be "ethnic".

correction: victomological -- victimological

Excellent comment and insights, LemonLime! ...as always :)

Thanks Champ.

There should be a new awards ceremony -- The Vickies (short for "Victims") -- perhaps the U.N. could host.

After the band plays a non-musical rendition of Islamic prayer drumming and twanging and ululations, Yasmeen Bleeth and Whoopi Goldberg in glittering dresses appear at the podium, and after they banter with scripted jokes about the evil West and evil Jews and Christians, they introduce Sean Penn, who comes up to do the honors of the culminating announcement of the evening -- of the potential winners of the prestigious award.

At the dais, as he runs through the nominees, photo montages depict them on the jumbo screen behind him.

"The Wall Street Occupiers!" Sean Penn says into the microphone, as the crowd cheers... camera pans George Clooney with his latest supermodel applauding...

"Illegal Mexican immigrants!"

"African-Americans who continue to suffer terrible discrimination!"

"And finally... Muslims!"

The loudest applause yet. Camera pans to Michael Moore, Al Gore, Hilary Clinton, and Rosie O'Donnel, the latter inserting her thumb and middle finger into her fat mouth to let out a shrill whistle of approval.

Sean Penn turns to Bleeth.

"And the envelope please..."

A moment of tense silence as he opens the envelope and takes out the slip.

"And the winner of The Vickie for ten straight years in a row goes to... the Muslims!!!"

Roar of applause. Over the loudspeaker, the deep baritone of James Earl Jones announces:

"To accept tonight's award -- which since September 12, 2001, honors that group whose unmerited victimization has had the greatest success in exploiting the irrational shame and self-hatred of the Western white man -- there will come to the stage representatives of CAIR, ISNA, MSA, the Muslim Council of Britian, and delegates from Palestine..."

News outlets reported minor scuffles when a small group of peaceful Christians handing out pamphlets -- and on the red carpet, a drunken Andy Dick wearing a burka -- had to be escorted off the premises by Religious Police.

Great parody on all the players for your awards ceremony, LemonLime, and so spot on! ..that was hilaaarious!! :-D

Thanks Champ -- I forgot to add one crucial thing to my little creative exercise:

When the Muslim spokesperson takes the mic to accept his Vickie, he says:

"I'd like to thank Allah, my four wives, and my Jewish agent, Mort Labinowitz...."

While I agree at face value with many of the comments, it helps to put things in perspective.

While we tend to use words as they are interpreted within a civilised society, Muslims use the Koranic interpretation which may be vastly different. Words such as terrorism, innocence, peace, justice, freedom and blasphemy spring immediately to mind.

In this context, Islam has seen itself as the victim from inception, even as it ravished and killed, enslaved and exiled tens of millions of people within its expanding neighbourhood.

It's important to look at this from the viewpoint of the Muslim, not just ours. To them, Koranic imperatives are not the quaint writings of desert dwellers in a bygone age, but an obligation and the reason for their very existence. To them, the greatest sin is to reject Allah and Mohamed as his prophet, the Sharia or any part of their inspired texts.

And to them, the nonbeliever is guilty beyond any manner of penance or punishment for their belief in gods other than Allah, as are their offspring, their societies, and their governments. In this respect, what we call murder and atrocity they call well deserved justice in the name of Allah the Compassionate.

LemonLime, I have to echo Champ here—*hilarious* description of the "award ceremony". Somehow I doubt he's thank his wives for anything, though, under any circumstances...

David, Thailand wrote:

While I agree at face value with many of the comments, it helps to put things in perspective...
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So true, David—good post.

Just trying to defend against being massacred by Muslims and so "striking" a Muslim is prohibited under the 7th-century Pact of Umar.

In fact, resisting Muslims in any way is erecting "obstacles" against Islam, which—as you note—is the greatest "sin" in Muslim eyes.

A Jewish agent? ...wow now THAT is funny, LemonLime! ..lol! :)

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