The great irony here continues to be that their mutually exclusive ideologies would be duty-bound to attempt to annihilate one another if they came into competition. But for now, North Korea needs cash, and Iran wants the bomb.
They have collaborated both on computer technology that could help design nuclear weapons, and on missile technology, so there is no reason to believe they would stop there.
"Report: Iran held nuclear test in N. Korea," from YNet News, March 5:
Germany's Die Welt newspaper reported Sunday that Iran held at least one nuclear weapons test in North Korea in 2010.The paper's report is based on "Western intelligence agencies sources," and says that the test, in fact, refutes US intelligence assessments suggesting there is no "hard evidence" that Iran is building nuclear weapons.
The International Atomic Energy Agency has recently declared that its nuclear negotiations with Iran have failed.
"After a year of work, (de Geer) concluded that North Korea carried out two small nuclear tests in April and May 2010 that caused explosions in the range of 50–200 tons of TNT equivalent.
The statement followed Tehran's decision the bar IAEA inspectors from what is believed to be key military sites in the Islamic Republic.
Iran vehemently claims that its nuclear program is meant to serve civil, peaceful purposes only.
The Die Welt noted that evidence of the 2010 nuclear tests in North Korea was published in early February in Nature Magazine.
According to the report, Swedish nuclear physicist Lars-Erik de Geer analyzed data "showing the presence of radioisotopes that betrayed a uranium bomb explosion."
"The types and ratios of isotopes detected… suggest that North Korea was testing materials and techniques intended to boost the yield of its weapons," the report said.
This has always been my major concern from day one when it appeared Iran wanted to get the nuke bomb.
Report: Iran and North Korea collaborated on nuclear tests in 2010
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One of the most horrifying Islamic theocracies partnering with the most horrific remaining Communist state.
Well—it's good to know who your enemies are.
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The great irony here continues to be that their mutually exclusive ideologies would be duty-bound to attempt to annihilate one another if they came into competition. But for now, North Korea needs cash, and Iran wants the bomb.
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Right-o. But right now, they are all too happy to use one another.
Still—you'd think that North Korea might be a bit taken aback were they to contemplate the fate of Iran's communists and socialists, who joined with the "Islamists" in the ouster of the Shah.
Once the Mullahs consolidated their power, they savagely liquidated the communist Tudeh Party and other hard left elements. You can read a horrifying account of this in Houshang Asadi's "Letter to My Torturer".
But both of these monstrous regimes would rather threaten the free world than look too closely at the nature of their "ally".
It's the new Hitler/Stalin Pact.
Report: Iran and North Korea collaborated on nuclear tests in 2010
That means that North Korea's military complex is up to its eyes in Stuxnet, just like Russia's. Stuxnet just loves cyber connections.
Clowns!
We have tac nukes that would be the perfect solution for Iran's 12th Imam nuke sites, as I call 'em.
OT: HBO has kindly made available an Andrew Brietbart appearance on Bill Maher in 2011, so check out the On Demand feature on your local cable tv to see it.
There has been further reports on the Algerian incident, Al- Qaeda were responsible for this.
http://www.maghrebchristians.com/2012/03/05/suicide-bombing-targets-algerian-security-station/
Youssef
Joke of the night:
What is the difference between militant jihadi Muslims like the mad mullah regime of Islamic Iran, and the plain old self identified “moderate Muslims” ?
Dry punchline-
The militant jihadi Muslims correctly understand and act upon the details of their inescapably violent and severely perverse religion/ideology/cult.
While the plain old self identified “moderate Muslims” fail to understand, obey, and act upon cruel and insane commands put upon them by their severely perverse religion/ ideology/cult. Denial and lies and excuses are all they've got to fall back on.
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Yesterdays joke:
A Christian, a Jew, and a Muslim walk into a bar.
The Christian steps up to the bar and says, hey Mack, I'll have a cold beer and a pork sandwich.
The Jew steps up to the bar and says, hey Mack, I'll have a glass of Manischewitz and a bowl of matzo ball soup.
The Muslim steps up to the bar and says, hey Mack, I'll take your daughter your sister your wife and your mother as booty and use them as sex slaves that my "right hand possesses" just like the Qur'an gives me permission to do...
About Slave girls and what the right hand possesses:
Qur'an 033.052
It is not lawful for you (to marry other) women after this, nor to change them for other wives even though their beauty attracts you, except those (captives or slaves) whom your right hand possesses. And Allah is Ever a Watcher over all things.
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Except with their wives and the (captives) whom their right hands possess,- for (then) they are not to be blamed,
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Except with those joined to them in the marriage bond, or (the captives) whom their right hands possess,- for (in their case) they are free from blame,
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Also (prohibited are) women already married, except those whom your right hands possess: Thus hath Allah ordained (Prohibitions) against you: Except for these, all others are lawful, provided ye seek (them in marriage) with gifts from your property,- desiring chastity, not lust, seeing that ye derive benefit from them, give them their dowers (at least) as prescribed; but if, after a dower is prescribed, agree Mutually (to vary it), there is no blame on you, and Allah is All-knowing, All-wise.
Think about it...
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Islam is evil in part and on the whole. We ex-Muslims know that Islam is the exact opposite of what it claims to be.
Here is a recent statement from a group of Bangladeshi apostates living in the UK explaining the reasons why they have abandoned Islam:
"One who claims to be a messenger of God is expected to live a saintly life. He must not be given to lust, he must not be a sexual pervert, and he must not be a rapist, a highway robber, a war criminal, a mass murderer or an assassin. One who claims to be a messenger of God must have a superior character. He must stand above the vices of the people of his time. Yet Muhammad’s life is that of a gangster godfather. He raided merchant caravans, looted innocent people, massacred entire male populations and enslaved the women and children. He raped the women captured in war after killing their husbands and told his followers that it is okay to have sex with their captives (Qur'an 33:50). He assassinated those who criticized him and executed them when he came to power and became de facto despot of Arabia. Muhammad was bereft of human compassion. He was an obsessed man with his dreams of grandiosity and could not forgive those who stood in his way...
The statement continues,
Muhammad was a narcissist, like Hitler, Saddam or Stalin. He was astute and knew how to manipulate people, but his emotional intelligence was less evolved than that of a 6-year-old child. He simply could not feel the pain of others. He brutally massacred thousands of innocent people and pillaged their wealth. His ambitions were big and as a narcissist he honestly believed he is entitled to do as he pleased and commit all sorts of crimes and his evil deeds are justified."
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Ex-Muslim Ali Sina's ongoing challenge to Muslims can be found over at Faith Freedom.org:
THE CHALLENGE
If you do not like this site and want me to remove it, instead of acting as a bully or as a victim, disprove my charges against Muhammad logically. Not only will I remove the site, I will publicly announce that Islam is a true religion. I will also pay
$50,000 U.S. dollars
to anyone who can disprove any of the dozen of the accusations that I have made against Muhammad. I accuse Muhammad of being:
a narcissist
a misogynist
a rapist
a pedophile
a lecher
a torturer
a mass murderer
a cult leader
an assassin
a terrorist
a madman
a looter
...You simply can’t disprove them because they are reported in Islamic sources and as such they are as good as confession...
http://www.faithfreedom.org/the-challenge/the-challenge/
It's the Communist Islamist alliance!!
One has a Supreme leader and the other a leader who is believed to be supreme!!
Pakistan comes to mind as well - they may be looked on jealously as they - already have the 'Islamic bomb'.
And somewhere in there is, undoubtedly, the 'Viva la Revolution' Chavez!
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One of the reasons for the decline in the Islamic world - was that they assumed they held on to perfect knowledge [in Arabic of course] - and all that was outside was ignorant. But with only one exception - they showed interest in weapons.
In miserable degraded living conditions, with most everything banned, the Afghan Taliban allow themselves the latest in weaponry - that they are able to lay their hands on.
This has been the history of Islam outside the periods of conquests - where new knowledge from the spoils was absorbed - although not wholeheartedly. But there were no such limits on the development and acquisition of weapons technology.
It was with advanced weapons technology that the Turks stormed Constantinople - what is now Istanbul. After which a renaissance period followed in the Muslim world - then a gradual dive - guided by Islamic restrictions.
Iran - no doubt - hopes to offer the world the same!
Fools they were, and fools they are, for following Mohammad.
@SaleemSmith
About this part of your post,
"Here is a recent statement from a group of Bangladeshi apostates living in the UK explaining the reasons why they have abandoned Islam:...."
It's nice to see this so clearly stated. Thanks.
@Cole
I'm beginning to think that you are right.
I call them ISLAMO-COMMUNISTS.
I'm beginning to believe that the "socialist - communist Left" is the bigger part of the problem.
Like HIV, the "socialist - commnunist Left" is the Primary infection that has allowed the Opportunistic infection of Islam to take hold and reak such havoc.
There are some interesting articles by Paul Weston on GoV that explain the islamo-communist connection, start here?
http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/2007/02/questioning-sanity-of-liberals_02.html
We see this socialist-islamist connection at work here in the U.S., with Obama.
Whole books could be (and probably have been) written about how the Left is destroying Western Civilization, in part by facilitating Islam.
I know, wreak not reak - don't copy my illiteracies.
What's interesting is that nukes are 1940's technology...The only thing that has changed is the delivery systems...
You would think that in 70 years some mad scientist would have come up with something better...I think Tesla was on to something years ago, but he was pushed to the back of the bus in favor of gun powder...
Iran having nukes is a grim prospect. But there is no way Israel can attack that wouldn't make things worse for Israel. I would counsel against it, but I don't think Netanyahu or Barak care what I think.
Cole wrote:
One of the reasons for the decline in the Islamic world - was that they assumed they held on to perfect knowledge [in Arabic of course] - and all that was outside was ignorant. But with only one exception - they showed interest in weapons.
In miserable degraded living conditions, with most everything banned, the Afghan Taliban allow themselves the latest in weaponry - that they are able to lay their hands on.
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So true, Cole. Good post.
I remember a joke from the early days of the Afghan war, which I'll paraphrase:
"You know you might be an Islamic extremist when you have more Kalashnikovs than teeth."
I might not use the term "Islamic extremist", but except for that the joke is absolutely spot on.
Somehow that ban on Bi'da (innovation)—which can even apply to *falafels*—isn't an issue when it comes to death-dealing weaponry.
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This has been the history of Islam outside the periods of conquests - where new knowledge from the spoils was absorbed - although not wholeheartedly. But there were no such limits on the development and acquisition of weapons technology.
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Again, so true. All Islamic "golden ages" have come after periods of bloody conquest.
What we see as a "golden age" is really the dying throes of the conquered civilization.
Want to see a new "Islamic golden age"? Just let Islam conquer the West. Then Muslims can claim all its wealth and invention as its own—while slowly crushing every condition that made such innovation possible in the first place.
while a military strike should be on the table as a very very very last resort, it will play to the hands of the mullahs. the sanctions are taking hold and it is really doing them in. I talk to my family on a daily basis and all hell is breaking loose there. there however is one more thing before an air strike and that in my opinion is to blaockade their major ports. Bander Abbas and Chhbahar as well as a no fly zone.
M
Saleem wrote:
Yesterdays joke:
A Christian, a Jew, and a Muslim walk into a bar.
The Christian steps up to the bar and says, hey Mack, I'll have a cold beer and a pork sandwich.
The Jew steps up to the bar and says, hey Mack, I'll have a glass of Manischewitz and a bowl of matzo ball soup.
The Muslim steps up to the bar and says, hey Mack, I'll take your daughter your sister your wife and your mother as booty and use them as sex slaves that my "right hand possesses" just like the Qur'an gives me permission to do...
About Slave girls and what the right hand possesses:
Qur'an 033.052
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One step further: The bartender, being a good, modern Western Dhimmi, surrenders his womenfolk. But after two weeks, the bartender's daughter and mother get sick and tired of their new lord and master's indolence and improvidence, and complain. The Muslim takes out a stick to "discipline" them, but when he makes an approach, they beat him black and blue and shove his stick up his @$$, telling him to think of it as Osama Bin Laden's thingamajig. However, he won't complain about it to anyone, lest he be taken for a complete and utter wuss.