Assembly of Muslim Jurists of America tells Muslims not to work in law enforcement, warns against becoming "pleased with a legal system that does not come from Allah"

This dates from 2008, but is nonetheless important, as it directly contradicts the government, law enforcement, and mainstream media dogma that all Muslims in America are completely loyal citizens with no intention to bring Sharia here by any means, and who fully and wholeheartedly cooperate with anti-terror efforts. And this is not a production of a Tiny Minority of Extremists. It's from the august and mainstream Assembly of Muslim Jurists in America.

Will the high-profile Muslim spokesmen in America explain, or make any comment at all? No, they will not, and our clueless and/or complicit mainstream media will not ask them to.

"Mainstream American Muslim Group Warns Muslims Against Working in Law Enforcement, Becoming 'Pleased with a Legal System That Does Not Come from Allah,'" from Translating Jihad, April 12:

The Assembly of Muslim Jurists of America (AMJA) cautioned American Muslims in a 22-page Arabic-language paper in 2008 against working in law enforcement in countries which do not rule by Allah's dictates. One of their main concerns was that such work might cause Muslims to gain love and respect for secular laws:
...there are many evils which result from working in law enforcement, the greatest of which is compelling people to obey rulings which do not come from Allah. It could also cause reverence and love for these rulings to enter the heart of the police officer, and perhaps spread to the hearts of his family members and other Muslims who see him at the mosque or even Muslims in general. They could lose conviction of governance by Allah, and become pleased with a legal system that does not come from Allah. (italics added)

AMJA provided some allowances for Muslims to work in certain law enforcement professions, fearing that a lack of Muslim representation in this sector could bring negative effects for the Muslim community. They also reasoned that Muslims working as police officers might be able to use their positions to help the Muslim community, such as helping out with traffic near their mosques and protecting their mosques. Still, there was concern that some of these might be required to enforce laws contrary to the shari'a, such as "arrest[ing] a Muslim man whose wife said he 'raped' her."

The AMJA paper specifically forbade Muslims from working for the FBI or in national security positions, due to their alleged arbitrary targeting of certain Muslims for "their political beliefs, charity work, or some of their convictions under the shari'a"--an apparent reference to counterterrorism investigations against Muslim suspects.

The paper also made clear that Muslims are to seek justice not in secular courts, but in Islamic courts which are compliant with their shari'a: "It is not permissible to pursue justice in the man-made (i.e. non-Islamic) judiciary, except where there is an absence of a shari'a-compliant substitute capable of restoring one's rights and working out one's grievances" (see my translation of another AMJA paper on working in the judiciary here).

Throughout the paper it is made clear that the duty of Muslims is not to uphold and respect the laws of the land in which they reside, but rather to do everything in their power to make the laws of Allah--the shari'a--supreme:

[Muslims are] to seek through legal means which exist in the countries in which they reside to make it possible for themselves to seek legal recourse in their shar'ia, and (not only) for personal affairs.

The duty to make Islam supreme comes above all, even preserving one's life:

We must remember that preserving the religion comes before preserving one’s self, mind, wealth, honor, or offspring. [...] But if saving [the individual's] life destroys Islam, then saving Islam comes first, even if it means the individual is destroyed. This is the case with jihad against the infidels, and the killing of apostates, and so forth.

It is worth stressing once again that AMJA--whose stated purpose is to "clarify the rulings of the sharia which are relevant for those who live in America"--is a mainstream American Muslim organization. Their membership list contains a large number of highly-influential American imams and Muslim leaders, including Muhammad al-Majid of the Adam Center in Virginia; Hussein Hamed Hassan, director of the financial consultancy firm which advises Goldman Sachs, JP Morgan Chase, and other large American banking institutions; Zulfiqar Ali Shah, former president of Islamic Circle of North America and current executive director of the Fiqh Council of North America; and the author of this paper, Dr. Hatem al-Haj, MD, PhD, a fellow at the American Academy of Pediatrics, and founder and president of "Building Blocks of Islam."...

Full list of signatories and complete text here.

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Judge Martin agrees!.

The AMJA paper specifically forbade Muslims from working for the FBI or in national security positions, due to their alleged arbitrary targeting of certain Muslims for "their political beliefs, charity work, or some of their convictions under the shari'a"--an apparent reference to counterterrorism investigations against Muslim suspects.

In some perverse way this is actually 'good news' for the anti-jihad, because they are 'self-pofiling' themselves here. Let them further isolate themselves from Western society and culture, continue to flout our laws and suffer arrest and prosecution to the full extent of the law; by becoming unwilling participants in FBI and police investigations concerning homeland security, they target themselves for greater monitoring of mosques, intelligence surveillance, phone tapping, review of their hate spouting imams, etc. This Muslim antipathy to our Western constitutional laws and democratic principles of government, what they ignorantly call "man-made laws", is what marks them untrustworthy and inimical to our Western ways of life in freedom and equal protection under the law. This alone should be grounds for dismissal from our countries for seditious activities, including this august body of Islamic jurists pushing the Sharia political agenda, which will ultimately lead to their expulsion. Nice to know where they're at, so makes our job more clear as what we need to do. Shoot, even the gullible NYTimes may finally get a clue, and make these Muslim jurists feel themselves "unwelcome" here.

whatever happened to him?
M

What a cult Islam is. Amazing that so many well educated Muslims can't see this, but ideology will trump everything else, including advanced education, if the believer has been snookered enough. Highly educated people thought (many still do) that Marxism was a science, that its principle of determinism was flawless, even though determinism, which essentially says that if one understands other Marxist principles like dialectical materialism, the class struggle theory and the theory of alienation thoroughly one can predict the future with scientific accuracy, is really just an intellectual version of palm reading. Yes, no amount of education is a guarantee against accepting the most foolish of ideas.

Hard to get more foolish than to think the Koran is directly the word of some monotheistic deity, word for word in classical Arabic, and that Mohammed, a truly repulsive character, whether fictional or not, is the last and greatest of the prophets and the Model Man. Believe nonsense like this and anything is possible to believe no matter what level of education one has achieved.

Refreshing, though, that this group of turkeys, the Assembly of Muslim Jurists of America (AMJA), warn fellow Muslims in America (personally I am loathe to refer to such people as "American Muslims" since they cannot hold true allegiance to America and its Constitution) not to work in American law enforcement or become enamored of the American legal system. It's better when Muslims are being honest about their warped religion rather than engaging in taqiyya or kitman. It's better, easier and simpler all around. And, as I already mentioned, refreshing. Damn refreshing.

our moral equivalence folks will probably cite instances in Africa and the Far East where two types or divisions of cadre (one Muslim, one not) do the policing.

most of those cultures are already undermined by folks with a SHARIA mindset and the SHARIA prone police dominate all crimes scene.

thanks for this alert. perhaps some jurists and lawyers who know how to read things critically, will read this

Time to throw these traitors out of the country and send them to Saudia, Pakistan, Afghanistan and Somalia. No questions asked, just buy them a one way ticket. Why are they living here if they are not happy with our legal system which provides them the full benefits of of society.

How typical that this paper should be in Arabic. Standard taqqiya tactics: soothing interfaith bromides in English, marching orders for jihad in little-understood native tongues. Also fresh confirmation of Organization of Islamic Cooperation Secretary General Ekmeleddin Ihsanoglu's declaration at Columbia University on Sept. 18, 2008:

The Muslim Ummah, means the 'community of the faithful'. It is a unique bond that has no similar example under any other political or religious system in the world. It is a belonging to ideals which bring Muslims together in an eternal brotherhood lock which transcends all other consideration of allegiance or loyalties or barriers of nationhood, ethnicity, geography or language.

Ihsanoglu actually did deliver his speech in English, but the roomful of academics who had gathered to hear him just nodded politely. Know their place, those people do.


The country would be a lot better off if there were no Moslems in law enforcement, or even better none in any government position at all -- including any public education position.

These are really GOOD NEWS for all freedom-loving people.
No islamo-suprematist should be even allowed to be a policeman in a free country!

what really is mind buggling to me is how these people make thier way here? on what basis? I think I have the answer. Money. they thousands of indians here who are proficeint in computer technolofy. while most of the are not muslms but they don't mix. then I look at all the food vendors, taxi drivers and news stand people here in NYC. how the hell and on what sabis did they get a visa? when I was coming to the states I had to go through hoops to get a visa. it took me almosy 1 1/2 year. I had to get addmision from an accredited colloeg i had to get financila pappers i had to get my uncle to sponsor me after all of these when I went to get a visa thay said my grades were not good enough. so I decided to go to England. the British back then did not require visa. I went to manchester and I was a kid. I went to the us consulte there, they siad you have to go your country and get visa, then someone said if you go to london they give you visa. no such a thing. I did not want to stay in emgland so I went back to teharn. I tried one more time and this woman looked at my grades and she siad it is not good, however she said come back tomorrow I will give you a two year visa. she must have gotten L....d that day! or something. I ran all the was home. but it is a mystery how these others get in. one thing with the us immigation is once you become a us citizen you can petition to bring your immediate family here as well. mom/dad/kids/brother etc... that in itself is a probelm.
M

"These are really GOOD NEWS for all freedom-loving people.
No islamo-suprematist should be even allowed to be a policeman in a free country!"

Or for that matter, as a judge, or even as a politician.

Aren't these people calling for sedition and should be prosecuted to fullest extent of infidel law.

Assembly of Muslim Jurists of America tells Muslims not to work in law enforcement, warns against becoming "pleased with a legal system that does not come from Allah"
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That would be Shari'ah law.

More:

This dates from 2008, but is nonetheless important, as it directly contradicts the government, law enforcement, and mainstream media dogma that all Muslims in America are completely loyal citizens with no intention to bring Sharia here by any means, and who fully and wholeheartedly cooperate with anti-terror efforts.
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It also fails to take notice of *another* disturbing phenomenon—that of Muslims deliberately infiltrating law enforcement, the judiciary, and related departments such as social services.

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One of their main concerns was that such work might cause Muslims to gain love and respect for secular laws
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Can't have that. Some Muslims might even become vaguely civilized...


More:

AMJA provided some allowances for Muslims to work in certain law enforcement professions, fearing that a lack of Muslim representation in this sector could bring negative effects for the Muslim community. They also reasoned that Muslims working as police officers might be able to use their positions to help the Muslim community, such as helping out with traffic near their mosques and protecting their mosques. Still, there was concern that some of these might be required to enforce laws contrary to the shari'a, such as "arrest[ing] a Muslim man whose wife said he 'raped' her."
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What a terrible dilemma for the Ummah!

While it is wonderful to have Muslim police intimidating domestic violence victims and denigrating the Kuffar victims of Muslim violence—not to mention having the Muslimah members of the force ostentatiously tricked out in Hijab—nonetheless, it might come down to them actually having to arrest an "Honor killer" or a Jihad terrorist once in a while. Damn Infidel laws!

More:

The AMJA paper specifically forbade Muslims from work ing for the FBI or in national security positions, due to their alleged arbitrary targeting of certain Muslims for "their political beliefs, charity work, or some of their convictions under the shari'a"--an apparent reference to counterterrorism investigations against Muslim suspects.
.............................................

"Political beliefs"—that would be "waging violent Jihad". "Charity work"—that would be funding violent Jihad. "Their convictions under the shari'a" pretty much speaks for itself...

More:

[Muslims are] to seek through legal means which exist in the countries in which they reside to make it possible for themselves to seek legal recourse in their shar'ia, and (not only) for personal affairs.
.............................................

That would be "Lawfare" and other related strategies, such as infiltrating education, media, and the law in order to make the horror of Shari'ah appear (temporarily) more palatable to the filthy Kaffir.

More:

We must remember that preserving the religion comes before preserving one’s self, mind, wealth, honor, or offspring. [...] But if saving [the individual's] life destroys Islam, then saving Islam comes first, even if it means the individual is destroyed. This is the case with jihad against the infidels, and the killing of apostates, and so forth.
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Well, this should come as no surprise. Even a lot of Anti-Jihadists, though, don't appear to realize that the whole purpose of Jihad—violent, and in its other forms—is to impose Shari'ah law.

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It is worth stressing once again that AMJA--whose stated purpose is to "clarify the rulings of the sharia which are relevant for those who live in America"--is a mainstream American Muslim organization.
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Terrifying—but again, not surprising...

I just went on their site. it is disturbing to say the least
M

One of the signatories on the list:

"Muhammad Adam Alsheikh, Al Rahmah Mosque (Maryland), Sudanese courts."

Wonder what kind of justice he metes out in those "Sudanese courts".

Under Islamic law, spousal rape is not a crime; it doesn't exist. The husband may have his way with his wife, whether she wants to or not. Indeed, per Koran 4:34, if she complains, he may beat her for being "rebellious".

In the USA, spousal rape is a crime, and it is the duty of the investigating officer (or of any medical personnel) to report it for further investigation and solicit an accusation from the alleged victim. This official paper by the AMJA is directly contravening American law in this regard, if not in several others.

Good point you made about rape, LL It should be driven home to as many Americans as possible, especially to the women of America.

" They also reasoned that Muslims working as police officers might be able to use their positions to help the Muslim community, such as helping out with traffic near their mosques and protecting their mosques."

"protecting their mosques" from what , exactly?

For example, at least half of all religiously based hate crimes reported in Canada according to statscan were against jews as reported in the Toronto Sun April 12 2012.

At a large Young Peoples Jewish Association at Spadina and Bloor in Toronto, there is always at least one security guard on duty at the front doors. I have never seen or heard of any security guard being on duty at any mosque in the Greater Toronto Area.

As usual, it is the muzlums hysterical cries of "islamophobia" and the imaginary fear of "backlash" that never seems to materialize, allowed to take over any sense of reason, but then again, reason has never been their strong suit, my, my such paranoia, where does it originate from.....

I am totally cool with these guys staying out of the FBI and other police units. Unfortunately there is a lot of clueless leadership from the FBI and CIA (and Defense) on down that is recruiting Muslims hoping to establish some sort of friendly link with them. They have no idea of the fire they are playing with.


Hmmmm, I knew the muslims put the MAD in muhhamMAD, 9/11 muslim put the SLAM in iSLAM , so now these guys want to put the ASS in ASSembly Og msulim jurists of America????


Amazing how muhamMAD started iSLAM but finding the local village idiots to volunteer to stay stupid and embrace ignorance to believe that muslims have the devine right to murder gays, beat wives, and heva sex with little girls and boys ,plus....murder nonmuslims as a favour to there version of god and Peace.

Finally that World is waking-up to another potential fascists regimes bent on Global domination from their holy book that tells they they are the SUPER-RACE destine to own Earth and run it as we saw in 'Beneath The Planet Of The Apes' where Apes set-off Nuclear bomb to kill off them and the non-apes that offended their Ape-God in paradise.

LemonLime wrote:

Under Islamic law, spousal rape is not a crime; it doesn't exist. The husband may have his way with his wife, whether she wants to or not. Indeed, per Koran 4:34, if she complains, he may beat her for being "rebellious".
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So true—neither is wife beating. We have already heard stories from the UK of Muslim police officers minimizing such cases to their superiors or just tying to intimidate the victims.

And I'm sure this would be the case whether they were dealing with their own coreligionists or not...

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