Muslim mob torches Khartoum church

My sentiments exactly though I'd go further than just burning a mosque. In a war the goal is to completely destroy your enemies. This is just one front in a global war that Islam is waging against all of humanity.

Non-muslims should be arming fellow non-muslims who are facing jihad and let them take care of the rest. As you said this will not end until one side finishes the other-muslims want war, non-muslims should give it to them.

History has proven time and time again, nothing works against Islam except warfare.

Muslim countries should be invaded, conquered and have Islam eliminated-to be replaced with democracy and freedom. After-all, these countries were formerly inhabited by non-muslims who were invaded/conquered by muslims.

Sadly, I agree with you. A burned church should equal a burned mosque; a bombed out city should equal a bombed out city, that's a hard truth! That's war and war is Hell!

I also believe it's gone farther than that, I believe that it's going to take the mentality of "us, free men and women" removing the muslim predators from our streets, by force if necessary.

Only when muslims understand that their violence will be met with equal violence, and or more, will muslims stop and start to listen. This has been the muslim, non-muslim war legacy of history. Whenever muslim have made "jihad" - war against non-muslims and they have been met with "FORCE," they have "tucked tail" and gone back to their "mud holes". Mulsims attack because of the qu'ranic mandate to fight until "all people" call allah god alone or they (the conqured) are subdued. Sadly, the world awaits a champion, but society is being lead by the whishy washy and the idea that peace at any cost is acceptabe. Muslims... Islam... needs to be beaten back into the "Hell Hole" it crawled out of, it's just that simple.

And sadly now, because "we" the free world wants peace soooo bad, it's gonna take alot of good men and women to do it. And that's if we wake up real soon, like yesterday.

Peace at any cost is not freedom, it's surrender

The Ethiopians have been there for up to twenty years. Many have had children there who know no other place, and have businesses. Or are married to Sudanese but remain Christian.
Khartoum wasn't always like this. It used to be a very cosmopolitan and wonderful place, according to a Greek bookshop owner I met who is disgusted at what is happening (and doesn't sell many books any more, either. Do Muslims need books?)

"In a war the goal is to completely destroy your enemies."

You're absolutely right. But while I agree that Christians have the right and the duty to defend themselves and their families against any agression, I need to point out that the real enemy has a name: ISLAM (not Muslims). And it's Islam itself, as a religion, that must and will be, by the grace of the Only True God, completely destroyed.

http://crossmuslims.blogspot.com/2010/05/dying-islam-lislam-mourant.html

Im sorry, Just Me, Fitna, Aprilyn but i have to dissagree with your ideas on how to respond to Islamic violence.

Revenge, especially by violence will never work and is never justified. It only motivates like minded people to commit even more violence.

Ofcoarse a Nation has a right to defend itself, even with force, but this is very different from attacking a random mosque just because they happen to have the same religion as the people who are commiting the violence.

This is the kind of bigotry that we at jihad watch are trying to argue against. This is the mentality of the islamists that you are sinking too.

The best way we can defeat the islamists is by telling the truth about how the Koran and Islam promotes hate,bigotry and violence.

When enough people become aware of this, governments will then start taking reasonable steps to safe guard human rights in western countries.

I agree we're at war with Islam, but Islam is not independent of muslims-it could not exist without them. They are followers of this ideology, just as Nazis were followers of Nazism and that's who we fought in WW2 to largely destroy Nazism. The same will need to happen with Islam/muslims.

It would be nice if we could simple tell muslims that your ideology is evil so stop following it. But the fact is just like the Nazis they have been brainwashed and they are intent on destroying us and have Islam dominate the world because they think their moon-god demands it. So we have no choice but to fight them to eliminate Islam.

At the very lead we will need to wipe out their terrorists/radical muslims and then give the 'non-violent' muslims the option to leave Islam-just as they would give us the option to join it 'or else.'

To Mike Cee,

I don't like violence either and I sure wish it was as simple as telling the truth to muslim, but it's not! I made the statments I made with a heavy heart, I'm a Christian and I don't believe in bigotry or revenge killings.

But this is not an act of revenge, but an act to perserve ones freedoms, ones way of life and in defense of ones country. It is not something I say lightly or with glee, I take no pleasure in the possible death of anyone.

War is "Hell" and we are at war with Islam and those who believe in the tenets of Islam. The religion of Islam mandated the war against non-muslims, and it is muslims themselves who have taken up the "Banner of War" declaring war against freedom and free people everywhere.

You're wrong Mike, a lesson that children in the West learn is that if you harm someone then you will be punished for your actions. It is the fear of punishment, of retaliation and consequence that keeps people in line ultimately-knowing that harming others will lead to harm for oneself.

For this same reason the crimes of muslims cannot go unpunished either otherwise they will simply be emboldened and commit more atrocities against us. And this is not a little school-yard brawl or some silly misunderstanding between two peace-loving respectful people, this is a war of ideology between barbarians and civilized people.

Everyone here knows that muslims are waging war against us to establish Islamic rule over all of humanity. This will mean the destruction of our freedoms, democracy, modernity-this is a life and death struggle for the future of our civilization.

So the proper way to deal with muslim aggression against non-muslims is overwhelming retaliation so that they will think twice about doing it next time. But the ultimate goal for all non-muslims should be the elimination of the ideology of Islam, which is the real source of this war.

@ Mike Cee

One point I forgot to add, ask Theo Van Gogh how helpful it was to try to talk to Mohammad Bouyeri and "tell the truth about Islam" as he was stabbing him to death.

Ask the little 8 yr old Jewish girl who was executed by that French muslim, I could go on forever with the examples.