Saudi mufti okays marriage for 10-year-old girls

"The Prophet wrote the (marriage contract) with 'Aisha while she was six years old and consummated his marriage with her while she was nine years old and she remained with him for nine years (i.e. till his death)." -- Bukhari 7.62.88

In Islam, Muhammad is the supreme example of conduct (cf. Qur'an 33:21). Thus he is exemplary even in his marriage to a child: Muslims take this seriously and imitate Muhammad in this. Article 1041 of the Civil Code of the Islamic Republic of Iran states that girls can be engaged before the age of nine, and married at nine: "Marriage before puberty (nine full lunar years for girls) is prohibited. Marriage contracted before reaching puberty with the permission of the guardian is valid provided that the interests of the ward are duly observed."

The Ayatollah Khomeini himself married a ten-year-old girl when he was twenty-eight. Khomeini called marriage to a prepubescent girl "a divine blessing," and advised the faithful: "Do your best to ensure that your daughters do not see their first blood in your house."

"Saudi mufti okays marriage for 10 year old girls," World Observer, April 21 (thanks to The Religion of Peace):

Saudi Arabia's Grand Mufti okayed marriage for girls starting at age 10 and criticized those who want to raise the legal marriageable age, according to news reports.

Sheikh Abdul-Aziz Al al-Sheikh said a girl becomes ready for marriage at 10 or 12 according to Islam and stressed that Islamic law is not by any means oppressive to women, the London-based al-Hayat reported Wednesday.

"Those who call for raising the age of marriage to 25 are absolutely mistaken," al-Sheikh said in a lecture he gave at the faculty housing mosque of Imam Mohamed bin Saud Islamic University in Riyadh.

"Our mothers and grandmothers got married when they were barely 12. Good upbringing makes a girl ready to perform all marital duties at that age."

Al-Sheikh's statements came in response to a question from a female attendee about marrying minor girls without their consent.

The Saudi National Human Rights Association (NHRA) has criticized the prevalence of the marriage of minors in the kingdom and considered it a violation of childhood. The association has sought to work with authorities to curb the practice and protect children's rights.

NHRA stressed that underage marriages are also a breach of several United Nations treaties including the Child Rights Treaty, which Saudi signed in 1996 and the Treaty for the Rights of Women that the kingdom joined in 2000.

Last year a similar fatwa, or religious ruling, by Salafi preacher Sheikh Mohamed al-Maghrawi allowing girls as young as nine to marry was condemned by Morocco’s Supreme Scientific Council. The council said it lacked religious validity because it was based on only one case—the marriage of Prophet Mohamed (pbuh) to Aisha bint Abu-Bakr.

But isn't Muhammad's example normative, as per Qur'an 33:21?

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islamic teachings like this are vile, and have no place in a civilized society; and they harken back to the stone ages and beyond, if that's possible. This practice demonstrates just how base and evil mankind can be ...yes, islam is replete with evil teachings throughout their "religious" texts.

Good upbringing makes a girl ready to perform all marital duties at that age."

A good upbringing does not prepare a child for rape on her wedding night...

They're okaying it now? Wouldn't that have been the norm since, I dunno, the 7th century? And when during the 800 year history of the Arabian peninsula would that have been interrupted?

Pedophilia in the Qur’an (65:4, the ugliest surah)
– “Not menstruated yet” (لَمْ يَحِضْنَ)

(video) The Child Bride of Muhammad - 65:4

http://schnellmann.org/the-child-bride-of-muhammad.html

That's the thing if they don't like something they will bargain their way around it. So not all of Muhammad's examples are valid.

It's disgusting frankly - you are looking at your little child and you're thinking you are going to marry her off!

The one example - Muhammad - must have been a figure people feared. Where parents would counter-intuitively hand their same children over to him for marriage.

[For his carnal desires - versus Jesus 600 before Muhammad - whose conduct around children was exemplary.]

Islam is very much based on acting against one's instinct - in order to follow Muhammad's example.

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At first they want to curb freedom of speech around Islam - next groups like the OIC will be saying that it is against a Muslim man's human rights not to have a child bride!

assuming that Muhammad lived, he might have been feared. As memories of him faded,however, some must have thought the Allah god approved of his behavior, and all the people were made to approve of this example.

hard to discern how this benefits the family, except for the bride price and the possibilities of alliance with other families ... power, favor

it's difficult to discern how this would please the Umma initially so much that it would be termed an ideal, unless it allows for puriant desires to be expressed (though not always expressed)

it's hard to understand how this make for happy women ... oh excuse ... women don't have feelings

Well, as someone else already pointed out, pedophilia is allowed in the Koran.

According to Sayyid Abul Ala Maududi's commentary on verse 65:4 of the Koran:

Here, one should bear in mind the fact that according to the explanations given in the Quran the question of the waiting period arises in respect of the women with whom marriage may have been consummated, for there is no waiting-period in case divorce is pronounced before the consummation of marriage. (Al-Ahzab: 49). Therefore, making mention of the waiting-period for the girls who have not yet menstruated, clearly proves that it is not only permissible to give away the girl in marriage at this age but it is also permissible for the husband to consummate marriage with her. Now, obviously no Muslim has the right to forbid a thing which the Quran has held as permissible.

Wait a second.

Wait a second.

WAIT A SECOND!

Islam is a religion like any other and protected by not only the Constitution of the United States, but by the documents of many, many European and other modern democracies.

So -- uh -- what happens when the "religions" you protect by constitution/human rights charters are vile, filthy horror shows from the 7th Century that enshrine RIGHT IN THEIR TEXTS such horrific, repugnant nightmares as PEDOPHILIA and HATE MONGERING and RACISM and HOMOPHOBIA and FASCISM and VIOLENCE AGAINST WOMEN and MISOGYNY and MULTILATION and COLONIZATION and SUPREMACISM?

Then what do you do? THEN WHAT?

Do you PERHAPS change your documents and policies to stop this destructive group from emigrating to your country? HMMMMM?

Is it not time to remove Islam from the list of religions and honestly present it as it is? YES, IT IS TIME.

Of course I mean MUTILATION -- but I am not allowed to edit my posts. Wisely, nobody is.

Polygamy is an absolute guarantee that women can never be equal to men. A grown man being able to marry a girl of ten or so is also an absolute guarantee of permanent female subordination to men. Islam enthusiastically endorses both of these positions (ah, a double entendre of sorts, no?), and so, for all those out there who still possess reason and common sense, figuring out the end game in this matter ain't rocket science.

Women of the world, including Muslim women who can still think for themselves (hopefully this is waxing and not waning), draw your own conclusions from this. Mohammed, in reality, was not the Model Man but rather the Unmodel Man par excellence. Grasp this about Mohammed and everything else will start to fall into place about Islam and that great seventh-century fraud.

See Mohammed for what he truly was, a very clever and narcissistic con artist, and Islam is doomed. Destroy Mohammed's character and you destroy Islam. It's that simple---and, sadly unnecessarily, that complex.

Instructive how bad guys like Mohammed, Marx, Hitler, Lenin, Stalin and Mao got so much headway. If anything is condemnatory of mankind, extending credence in the first place to such miscreants definitely functions as Exhibit Number One here.

'Destroy Mohammed's character and you destroy Islam. It's that simple---and, sadly unnecessarily, that complex.'

Here are some ideas on how to do it... http://crombouke.blogspot.com/2011/03/how-to-destroy-islam-non-violently.html

Al-Sheikh's statements came in response to a question from a female attendee about marrying minor girls without their consent.

In any civilized country 'marrying minor girls without their consent' is called statutory rape.

This is the same 'Grand Mufti' who recently told Kuwait that it was necessary for them to destroy all churches in their territory.

It's incredible that an entire culture founded on such evil principles as mohammedanism can function at all, without them all dying of sheer self-disgust.

Raising a young girl so that by age 10 she is "ready to perform all marital duties" is to effectively take away her childhood and her freedom, such as it is in most Muslim societies. It also would likely end (or severely limit) her education, shrink her world into one of marital servitude, and force her to enter into what for her can only be an unnatural physical and emotional relationship. Here is child abuse par excellence.

Abraham_Lincoln says:

"Do you PERHAPS change your documents"

Not necessarily, the Communist Party was legal throughout all the Cold War. Now if members of the CP spied for the Soviet Union, they would go to jail.

Regarding Islam, we just need to enforce anti-sedition laws. So if you advocate removal of the US government (i.e., installation of Sharia), they should go to jail.

Same with 10 year old brides. It may be sharia but if you do it , you go to jail.

"Good upbringing makes a girl ready to perform all marital duties at that age."

Muslim marriage to a female is simply sex on demand and blind, silent obedience, which is what this statement is referring to. Marriage in Islam, unlike Christianity, is NOT a partnership of two human beings, but of master/slave situation with no accountability. Condition little girls to be mindless, cowering slaves when they are young, and a macho, insecure, inadequate, arrogant (i.e., domestic violence abuser) man will marry them.

Yes. We need to enforce existing laws.

"It's incredible that an entire culture founded on such evil principles as mohammedanism can function at all, without them all dying of sheer self-disgust."

Not really. Fear works wonders. So does the desire to be accepted. In addition, if you are inculcated in the culture from early childhood, you see nothing wrong with it. They're taught that WE are the evil ones, the unclean, etc. and that their ways will result in heavenly rewards.

Lastly, tyranny is usually better organized than freedom.

Muslims have to face the truth. Their prophet was a pervert in so many ways. He was not a person that someone with any regard for human dignity would ever want to emulate.

Saudi Arabia's Grand Mufti okayed marriage for girls starting at age 10 and criticized those who want to raise the legal marriageable age, according to news reports.
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This is Shari'ah.

More:

Sheikh Abdul-Aziz Al al-Sheikh said a girl becomes ready for marriage at 10 or 12 according to Islam and stressed that Islamic law is not by any means oppressive to women, the London-based al-Hayat reported Wednesday.
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*This* is what Muslims mean when they say "Islam is not oppressive to women"—that the rape of a *10-year-old girl* is not only acceptable, but sanctioned as an ideal.

More:

"Those who call for raising the age of marriage to 25 are absolutely mistaken"...
........................................

Is *anyone* calling for this? Sounds like a straw-man argument to me—if you don't sanction the rape of children, then those terrible "reformers" won't let women marry until they're 25...

More:

"Our mothers and grandmothers got married when they were barely 12. Good upbringing makes a girl ready to perform all marital duties at that age."
........................................

In other words, your mothers were raped as children, so their daughters should be, as well...

More:

Last year a similar fatwa, or religious ruling, by Salafi preacher Sheikh Mohamed al-Maghrawi allowing girls as young as nine to marry was condemned by Morocco’s Supreme Scientific Council. The council said it lacked religious validity because it was based on only one case—the marriage of Prophet Mohamed (pbuh) to Aisha bint Abu-Bakr.
........................................

Well—that's the one that counts, isn't it?

*This* is why reform can never work in the Muslim world—because they have to resort to the texts and tenets of Islam, which sanction all of these horrors.

The Religion of Pigs.

Appalling! And people wonder why paedophilia is on the increase in the rest of the world - it is a virus that is spreading out of control - a pandemic that our politicians are too weak to eradicate!Men who 'marry' underage children should be arrested the moment they enter any non-muslim country, don't you think?

Like with so many primitives, it's nice to be able legitimize your perversion with "religion", huh? The religion of the wet dreams of old men.

I recently read about the case of a young woman Jaycee Lee Dugard who was kidnapped at the age of 11 in California by a convicted pedophile named Phillip Garrido and held hostage for 18 years in the back of his home.
Ms Dugard was raped and forced to have 2 children by her rapist.
Garrido was finally caught and sentenced to 400 years for his horrendous crime.
My question is, what would have happened if pedophile Garrido had had the foresight to have converted to Islam.
In view of Islam's tolerance for young girls being with old men, and American tolerance for Islam, would Jaycee's attacker had been given such a harsh sentence or would he have gotten off more leniently by using a religion defense.
How long will it be before more pedophiles figure out that they have a perfect defense for their actions. All they have to do is become muslim.

Abraham Lincoln,

No need to change our Constitution one whit in order to ban Islam (and by logical extension all those who pledge allegiance to Islam) -- just as we had no need when we rationally and for good reasons rounded up and interned Japanese-American citizens during WW2, and when we executed two American citizens (the Rosenbergs) for treason.

Once we recognize that Islam is a deadly seditious ideology and that all members of that ideology are potentially and/or actually deadly seditionists, we will take the appropriate actions -- such as deportation.

Every free society has the right to protect its property and its citizens and, eventually, its way of life. All this misplaced handwringing about the Constitution; about how you "can't revoke citizenship" (oh? tell that to the liberal democracy Czechoslavakia which deported millions of Czechz and Slovaks of German descent including many citizens and never felt "ashamed" about doing such a rationally necessary thing); about high-horse morality; about "what if we become like them?"; etc., is not only unnecessary, it continues to be a positive hindrance to the reality that is calling to us from beyond the haze of our late morning doziness as our radio clock-alarm keeps coming on with pre-911 90s pop rock, and we keep numbly reaching out, over and over and over again, to hit its snooze button.

Hear, hear, LL.

Second all of that.

, if that's possible. This practice demonstrates just how base and evil mankind can be ...yes, islam is replete with evil teachings throughout their "religious" texts.
You're talking so much about Islam. How far do u kn0w this religion? Ask yourself. You have knowledge now and God gave it to u but u use it to critize negatively to other faith.. No place in this SOCIETY,yes! Islam is no place in the society of evil people. Islam has its OWN SOCIETY,the society of peace,justice,and equality.

You're talking so much about Islam. How far do u kn0w this religion? Ask yourself. You have knowledge now and God gave it to u but u use it to critize negatively to other faith.. No place in this SOCIETY,yes! Islam is no place in the society of evil people. Islam has its OWN SOCIETY,the society of peace,justice,and equality.

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