Turkey: Muslim mobs attacking Christian clerics

More indication of the ongoing re-Islamization of Turkey. "Christian clerics alarmed at growing threats, persecution in Turkey," from Hürriyet Daily News, April 10 (thanks to The Religion of Peace):

Christian clerics in Turkey have expressed their anxiety regarding the growing threats they face in wake of an attack against Pastor Semih Serkek of the Protestant “Lütuf” (“Grace”) Church in Istanbul’s Bahçelievler district on April 7.

“Attacks against Christian clerics drop off for a while, then they begin to re-energize. [Such attacks] have begun to accelerate again in recent days. We hesitate when opening our doors and welcoming the faithful inside,” Pastor Krikor Ağabaloğlu of the Gedikpaşa Armenian Protestant Church in Istanbul told the Hürriyet Daily News.

Attack on Easter

Three unidentified individuals attacked and beat Serkek on the night of April 7, immediately after an Easter service. “They were three people around the age of 18. They wore [prayer caps] on their heads. They forced the door open and said they were going to kill me unless I recited the ‘Kelime-i Şahadet’ [Islamic confession of faith]. I received a severe blow to my chest,” Serkek told the Daily News. The attacks were not coincidental, according to Serkek, who had also served as a mentor to the three victims slain in the Malatya Zirve Publishing House incident in eastern Turkey.

Pastor Orhan Picaklar of the Agape Protestant Church in the Black Sea province of Samsun also said he has been living with a personal escort 24 hours a day for the past four years, since a plot to assassinate him first came to light. “Police [officers] keep watch at the door during mass; the believers are afraid to enter the church due to the threat to their lives,” he said. The make-shift church, located inside an apartment building, also came under attack about a month ago, Picaklar said, adding that the congregation was chagrined at being stuck in an apartment. “[The authorities] gave the green light to the construction of a new church in 2004, within the framework of the European Union harmonization laws, although with the pre-condition that it must be no smaller than 2,500 square meters. We have no budget. We appealed to establish a church building 1,000 square meters in size, but did not receive approval for it.”

Ağabaloğlu said that in the case of his church, the state intentionally refused to grant permission for the construction of a church building. “They are trying to stymie the spread of Christianity in this way.”

Islamic law forbids Christians to build new churches.

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So much for "moderate" Turkish Islam.

Pray for the Protestants of Turkey, Iran, and Algeria. They're now no longer able to fly under the radar, their inroads into the Muslim community are now apparent, and they've attracted the ire of the Muslim clergy and devout.

Although, once again, the silver lining is that this small movement remains a significant crack in the wall of Islam.

At the turn of the 20th Century, there were about 2.5million Armenians in mainland Turkey ("Ottoman Empire"). During the initial phase of the Armenian Genocide around 1915, they of course got rid of 1.5million Armenians. Today, in the whole of Turkey, there are perhaps only about 40,000 Armenians left who have the bravery to admit that they are Armenians. That is a 98.4% reduction of the Armenian people - surely one of the saddest examples of Islamic supremacist ethnic cleansing.


The Ummah's historical average (over approximately 500,000 days since inception) is estimated to be 500 killings per day of non-Blackstonians, about 115 of those being Christian. Currently held back by restraints and opposition, the Ummah constantly demonstrates it is moving forward to meet its historical quota.

So, a question for the musloid trolls and their dhimmi whores:

You claim there is no compulsion in religion and offer of ONE ayat from mein kuranmpf as paltry and unconvincing proof of that. You further claim that any violence done by musloids is "cultural."

Today we are faced with news accounts of THREE musloid on non-musloid violence. One case involved the murder of an apostate from islam in the Philippines. Another regaled us with the tolerance in Pakistan and the attempted forced conversion to islam of a Christian woman. This story from "modern, moderate" Turkey (in Istanbul the "cosmopolitan, tolerant, Western" center of Turkey) tells of yet another violent attack upon and attempted forced conversion to islam of a Christian cleric.

These stories are not unique, or rare, they are quite common in dar al islam. But, to humour you professional obfuscators, I will simply ask about these three atrocities:

Which *culture* is to blame for this "misunderstanding of islam"?

Turkish culture? Pakistani culture? Or Filipino culture?

Also, in light of your claims that this is all culture, I would surely be interested in seeing an equal number of the reverse of this: Christians, Hindus or Jews in those cultures killing, violently abusing, intimidating and force converting musloids.

I mean, if it is as you shameless liars claim and just cultural and not religious, that would mean an equal number of non-musloids of those cultures are doing the same thing.

“They are trying to stymie the spread of Christianity in this way.”

Yes, they are "trying", only "trying".
But, as sheikh al-Qataani said on al Jazeera TV: "This Christianization movement is too big to be dealt with, even by all arab countries COMBINED".
And I would add: "even by all MUSLIM countries combined". Islam is dying, islam cannot survive the superhighway of information.. They know it, and there's nothing they can do about it except... "trying"!!!
http://crossmuslims.blogspot.com/2010/05/dying-islam-lislam-mourant.html

How do you "dialogue" with that? It is like trying to reason with a domestic violence abuser (who Islamic law does protect), who merely wants what he wants and will use any deceitful or violent means to get domination, control, and free reign to abuse with no consequences.

"Which *culture* is to blame for this "misunderstanding of islam"?

"Turkish culture? Pakistani culture? Or Filipino culture?"

Nice job, IC. Your logic is impeccable.

Turkey: Muslim mobs attacking Christian clerics

More indication of the ongoing re-Islamization of Turkey. "Christian clerics alarmed at growing threats, persecution in Turkey"
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A hundred years ago, Turkey murdered most of its Christian population—well over a million people. The Armenian genocide targeted not just Armenians, but also Greek, Balkan, and other Christians.

Then, sixty years ago there were the "Istanbul Riots", where Muslim mobs attacked and murdered Greek Christians over false rumors of a bombing.

Today, there is just a small remnant of Christians left in the whole country—perhaps 70,000 of all denominations.

And now, Christians in Turkey—as in so much of the Muslim world—are under attack again.

More:

“[The authorities] gave the green light to the construction of a new church in 2004, within the framework of the European Union harmonization laws, although with the pre-condition that it must be no smaller than 2,500 square meters. We have no budget. We appealed to establish a church building 1,000 square meters in size, but did not receive approval for it.”
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Now *that's" a neat trick—the usual banning of Christians rebuilding their churches, but with the twist that they are only authorized to build a church which Muslim authorities understand is out of their budget. That keeps the Christians from building a church, but mollifies the clueless Europeans, who likely won't understand the machinations.

It should be remembered that many of these Christians are not from the original indigenous Greek and Armenian dhimmi remnants (though there are some - there is an Armenian mentioned in the article).

Many of the Christians in these new little mostly-Protestant house churches are born-Muslim Kurds or Turks who have apostasised and become Christians.

The article refers in passing to three Christians who were murdered while working for a small Christian publishing house.

One of those three was an expat, a German Christian. The other two were Turks, formerly Muslim, who had *become* Christians. They died - horribly, sadistically mutilated to death in inventive and obscene ways - rather than renounce their new-found Lord.

The new saints, martyrs and confessors of the Church in Asia Minor are ethnic Kurds and ethnic Turks, raised within Islam, who have left Islam and placed their trust in Jesus of Nazareth.

The things you post are reasons why I remain a bit optimistic for the future. When I was a kid, the idea of Kabyle Christians setting up churches in Algeria or ethnic Turks or Kurds having Christian churches in Anatolia was considered unlikely. When I became aware of Christian missions in young manhood, 500 or so Muslim-background believers among the Christians of Iran was thought rather remarkable, but unlikely to get much larger. Yet it now seems that the Iranian regime is more frightened by one Youcef Nadarkhani or someone reading the Bible in Farsi than by a horde of Mojaheddin-e-Khalq

I believe that serious cracks are appearing in the walls of the Dar ul-Islam, and that may be one reason why it is going berserk.

Dumbledore's Army wrote:

It should be remembered that many of these Christians are not from the original indigenous Greek and Armenian dhimmi remnants (though there are some - there is an Armenian mentioned in the article).

Many of the Christians in these new little mostly-Protestant house churches are born-Muslim Kurds or Turks who have apostasised and become Christians.
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Thank you for mentioning this important point, DDA. I have to admit I was only thinking of the remaining indigenous Christian population, and not taking new converts into account.

But the fact that so many Muslims are converting to Christianity is an important and hopeful factor.

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