UK: County councillor investigated for distributing leaflet criticizing Muslims

Robert, you screwed up big time this time. Graham Partner is an anti-Semite and an Iran-regime apologist. I personally am opposed to preemptive Israeli strikes on Iran (I'm also an old-fashioned moderate who supports the two-state solution), and as a Jew I understand, unlike the anti-Semites who put out this video (link provided below) that the term "Chosen People" means in the sense of giving a moral message to the people of the world and to act morally yourself; it does not mean "superior above all people" in the sense of Nazi or similar "ubermensch" superior race theory. Please investigate your 'friends' with a little more diligence, especially if you are bothering to wish us all a happy Passover, then slap us in the face with (mistaken and unintended, I hope) glowing encomia to a worm like Graham Partner.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eptPeSmA37U

Please view the video and tell me if you think Jews by and large are arrogant people who believe themselves to be 'chosen' in the way meant in this obnoxious and disgusting video and if you think Graham Partner and his ilk should be praised to the skies on your website. Please tell me then whether your wishes over the last 24 hours for Chag Pesach Sameach were just words or whether you really meant them.

What a surprise. Let`s hope they have a thorough investigation and come to the conclusion that everything said is true. won`t hold my breath.

What exactly did Graham Partner say that was false?

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Robert, I know that you know. What Partner said was the simple truth. Truth has become hate speech, but only to leftists and totalitarians.

This must change, and that will only occur as we take more and more control of news/information dissemination. Thank the Lord for the internet.

And the left knows that, explaining all the continuing attempts to saddle government control over the internet, not the largely open structure it presently has.

But the greatest persecutors of other faiths are Muslim, themselves. (from Graham Partner's leaflet)

This is demonstrably true, but it needs a little refinement to avoid the criticism levelled at it by apologists for Jihad.

It should have read: 'But the greatest persecutors of other faiths is Islam'.

Turkey‘s top Muslim cleric has stepped into an international row over Christianity on the Arabian Peninsula, rejecting comments attributed to the Saudi grand mufti that all churches there should be destroyed.

Mehmet Gormez, head of the Religious Affairs Directorate in Ankara, told a Turkish newspaper that Islam respected the rights of other faiths and calls for the destruction of churches went against centuries of tolerance.

Read more: http://www.maghrebchristians.com/2012/04/07/top-turkish-imam-raps-saudi-view-on-arabia-churches/#ixzz1rMcNJkRG

Youssef

"Robert, you screwed up big time this time. Graham Partner is an anti-Semite and an Iran-regime apologist... "

I don't know if that true, but one thing is one thing and another thing is another thing. Robert didn't screwed up anything, he's just referring to this letter/leaflet, to this news story, nothing more nothing less. The background of the people involved doesn't matter cause it's something very specific, it's about free speech, it's about critizicing the most violent, hateful and bigoted ideology on earth: Islam.

"Graham Partner and his ilk should be praised to the skies on your website... "

Nobody is praising Graham, you either have serious reading comprehension issues or you're just trolling.

their ideological paradise of multi-cultural, multi-faith, left-wing society is nothing more than a fantasy."

He can't get away with saying that he is hurting the feelings of every liberal, leftist and Mahoundian, with the word 'fantasy', how dare he?...Besides we all know Allah has no Partner, just three daughters...

The guy was a member of the BNP - that implies racist views - I think the broader issue is around freedom of speech - and even those with racist views - have the same rights.

In addition - what makes the case more bizarre - is that he copied the script from an article in a daily newspaper.

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For many of the Left if you asked them - they would say everything is going fine with Christians in the Muslim world.

To read articles such as the ones we read are beneath them - so they automatically expect that their imagination should be substituted for reality.

There was an interesting article in the Guardian - Comment Free section - which went on about how wonderfully tolerant the Egyptian state and Muslim people were towards - the Coptic population - but this article coincided with a report - from some international human rights body - or the US religious freedom report - which spoke of the impunity with which the Copts are being attacked in Egypt.

And it not like these details aren't known or are hard to find - but if you cited any of this report's details - the Guardian - who couldn't be on a higher horse - would call you and everyone who dares posit the idea - a racist and an Islamophobe.

They have manufactured their own dream world about Islam - its laws and the treatment of others under it and they want it to remain intact.

Unfortunately though - their view has nothing to do with reality. Covering one's eyes and hoping that by not looking - it will go away - simply won't work!

As for Macck's "two-state" solution, we already have it -- Israel and Jordan. And Jordan got the lion's share; it's over four times the size of Israel. Plenty of room there to accomodate the Gazans and West Bankers.

"The guy was a member of the BNP - that implies racist views - ... "

Err... to a degree maybe, if you go to the BNP website- http://j.mp/aV9229 - they seem outright xenophobic, they're against ALL forms of immigration, against ALL immigrants, they don't differentiate between illegal and legal immigrants and between immigrants that integrate, assimilate and are respectful, tolerant and immigrrants who are intolerant, hateful, violent, bigoted, who don't assimilate, integrate.

Immigrants should be allowed in any country, legally, immigrants who want to study, live, work, contribute to society. It doesn't matter if they're indian, thai, latinos, black africans, polynesian... etc. If they're tolerant, if they don't try to impose their views and culture onto others then that's good enough, the immigrants that shouldn't be allowed are the ones like most muslims, who try to impose their views, ideology onto others, who are intolerant and don't respect the host culture. Even in their countries muslims don't have any right to impose their views onto others, universal human rights are UNIVERSAL.

A shame that the BNP tookthe path of hating ALL immigrants, that doesn't help at all; The irony here? muslims are one of the most racist and xenophobic people on earth!. Tsk, tsk, tsk...

I can see nothing untrue in the leaflet as it describes Muslims. Muslims love to wallow in victimhood especially after some Muslim commits an atrocity. One look at almost any newspaper anywhere on the planet will reveal the Muslim involvement in almost all religious violence on one or both sides. Muslims have lately been involved in bombing Churches
or imprisoning Christians over Mohammed cartoons.

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Saeed calls for jihad against US to save Pak

Lahore: Jamaat-ud-Dawa (JuD) chief Hafiz Muhammad Saeed has called for a jihad against the United States to save Pakistan and Islam.

“Come to us. We will teach you the meaning of jihad… The time to fight has come,” The Express Tribune quoted Saeed, as saying at a sermon.
http://zeenews.india.com/news/south-asia/saeed-calls-for-jihad-against-us-to-save-pak_768750.html

This man is a true Brit who is doing what he feels he must
to counter the subjugation of Great Britain.

I support the right of Israel to be the jewish home of the jews,to include Judea and Samaria. I don't know what this mans views are on this, but in answer to Miss Petkoff and
others, we wish to control who comes and stays in our small
island without being called a racist.

We are grossly overcrowded and short of everything from water to work.By 2030 my white children will be an ethnic
minority in the land of their forefathers because of the
actions of HMG to strip us of our country, identity, rights
and culture.

Since when was it a crime for a people,proud of their identity and heritage, to wish to stand or fall by the sweat
of their brows and the free excercise of their talents?

One last point, no one should be called a Racist for NOT
wanting his country to be swamped by foreigners, was Ghandi
called a Racist for wanting India for Indians? NO, the time
when this word could be thrown about to silence and cow is
past, finished gone.

As someone noted, the "hate speech" Partner is being investigated for are not his words, but from some unnamed "national newspaper". I'm amazed that a "national newspaper" exists in the UK with such an unremarkably rational viewpoint as demonstrated in the words Partner quoted.

I'm also curious how that "national newspaper" got away with publishing those words, and whether they too are being "investigated".

Everything I read that he said about muslims was absolutely true.As Pamela Geller says: "The truth is the new hate speech"

re the Muslim attempts to pose as victims - I recall Bishop Michael Nazir-Ali saying something pretty acerbic on that topic, and his remarks being published in a British newspaper.

It was discussed right here in jihadwatch in 2006.

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2006/11/bishop-attacks-victim-muslims.html

Bishop attacks 'victim' Muslims

"THE Church of England’s only Asian bishop, whose father converted from Islam, has criticised many Muslims for their “dual psychology”, in which they desire both “victimhood and domination”.

"In the most outspoken critique of Muslims by a church leader, Michael Nazir-Ali, the Bishop of Rochester, said that because of this view it would never be possible to satisfy all their demands.

“Their complaint often boils down to the position that it is always right to intervene when Muslims are victims, as in Bosnia or Kosovo, and always wrong when the Muslims are the oppressors or terrorists, as with the Taliban or in Iraq,” said Nazir-Ali.

“Given the world view that has given rise to such grievances, there can never be sufficient appeasement and new demands will continue to be made.”...

This wasn't the article that Parsons quoted, but it does show that every now and again the truth *has* managed to sneak past the gatekeepers.

>As for attacks on me as a "troll," etc. Expectable, given the nature of many of the regular commenters on here. I'm not naive and I know what web anonymity allows for
>many of the people on here are nothing more than vicious bigots with sadistic fantasies of violence but without the courage (for which we can be grateful) not to carry them out in real life.

Tsk, tsk, tsk... that post started good but went downhill so fast, what a shame. That's the buffoonish verbiage and paroxysm i'd expect from a 4chan post, a typical anonymous user-probably a basement dweller- judging by his condition all while trying to portray himself as an internet reicarnation of Sigmund Freud, a FBI psychological profiler and Dr. Phil, spewing ridiculous, haggardish ad hominems; Like the other user said, if you dont' back up your verbal incontinence with factual evidence then it's nothing more than calumnies, libel and slander against this website, admins. and its userbase.

These type of posters are one of the most pathetic on the internet, ever. Why?, well there's something called 'psychological projection' a.k.a projection bias, look it up. The subconscious tricks the mind. A thief judges by his condition.

I too am under investigation by my local police in the U.K because I have anti-Islam signs on my car. The police have called me a racist and xenophobe.

I am not in the least right-wing and certainly do not support the rent-a-mob style English Defence League. I lean to the left politically and as all my publications clearly state, I support "sanity, democracy, free speech, genuine religious tolerance and multiculturalism."

At the moment because of a complaint by a nameless woman the police are investigating me for a sign on my car which states 'Isalm is a far greater threat to the well-being of mankind than Fascism and Communism ever were.'

The nameless woman from the city of Plymouth (from where the Pilgrim Fathers sailed) states the sign is racist. The police claim they must investigate because she perceives the sign to be racist.

Note the United Kingdom 2006 Racial and Religious Hatred Act, under the heading PROTECTION OF FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION states:-

'Nothing in this part shall be read or given effect which in any way prohibits or restricts discussion, criticism, or expressions of antipathy, dislike, insult or abuse of particular religions or the beliefs or practices of their adherents, or of any other belief system, or the beliefs or practices of the adherents, or proselytizing or urging adherents of a different religion or belief system to cease practicing the religion or belief system.