U.S. condemns photos of soldiers posing with body parts of Afghan jihadists

Remember the explanation the New York Times gave to Pamela Geller for why it refused to publish our "It's Time to Quit Islam" after it had published a "It's Time to Quit the Catholic Church" ad just days before? That's right: they said our ad "could put U.S. troops and/or civilians in the [Afghan] region in danger."

Yet this New York Times story contains a link to a Los Angeles Times story that includes photos (complete with facial images and name tags) that are sure to put U.S. troops and/or civilians in the Afghan region in danger." Once again, the Leftist media is arrogant, hypocritical, and self-contradictory -- not to mention fanatically opposed to the defense and safety of the United States (which is not to say that our national security is being protected by the fool's errand in Afghanistan).

Jihad Watch reader David comments on the photos: "I have a different explanation for these abuses: When you put inexperienced young men and women in the psychologically traumatic situation of repeated extended overseas deployments and combat and you explain their mission to them in a way that is incoherent and incomprehensible, this is what happens. At some point they can't take it anymore, they break. This is the result of the horrible, pointless abuse of our armed forces by politicians who have no concept of the stress these men and women are under."

"Photos Show U.S. Soldiers Posed With Afghan Body Parts," by Graham Bowley and Alissa J. Rubin in the New York Times, April 18 (thanks to David):

KABUL — Photographs apparently showing United States soldiers posing with body parts of a dead insurgent drew strong condemnation on Wednesday from American officials including Defense Secretary Leon E. Panetta and the commander of international forces in Afghanistan.

The Los Angeles Times published on the front page of its early editions a photograph of what it described as a soldier from the Army’s 82nd Airborne with a dead insurgent’s hand on his shoulder. It said it was one of 18 photographs of soldiers posing with the corpses of insurgent fighters given to the newspaper by a soldier who served in Afghanistan with the 82nd Airborne’s 4th Brigade Combat Team from Fort Bragg, N.C. The paper said the Afghan died planting a bomb, citing police.

The story was later posted to the paper’s Web site with another photograph of soldiers posing with dismembered legs held upright by ropes.

The photographs were believed to have been taken in 2010, according to a spokeswoman for international forces in Afghanistan. She said it was not yet clear where the photographs had been taken, the number of service personnel involved nor whether they were still serving in the U.S. military.

According to the newspaper, the photographs were taken in Zabul Province in 2010. Zabul is in the south of the country and is one of Afghanistan poorest provinces where the Taliban has a strong presence.

The story said in one photograph two soldiers posed holding a dead man’s hand with the middle finger raised....

Mr. Panetta said in an emailed statement that the photographs did not represent the “professionalism of the vast majority of U.S. troops serving in Afghanistan today.” He also voiced displeasure at the newspaper for publishing the images, saying he was “disappointed that despite our request not to publish these photographs, the Los Angeles Times went ahead.”

Gen. John R. Allen, the senior allied commander in Afghanistan, condemned the actions apparently depicted in the photographs. "The actions of the individuals photographed do not represent the policies of ISAF or the U.S. Army,” he said in a statement, referring to the NATO coalition in Afghanistan. “This behavior and these images are entirely inconsistent with the values of ISAF and all service members of the fifty ISAF countries serving in Afghanistan.”

Ambassador Ryan C. Crocker also said in a statement: “The U.S. Embassy strongly condemns the actions depicted in photos recently made public, which appear to show members of the U.S. military committing disrespectful acts with the bodies of insurgents, killed in their own suicide attacks in 2010.” He said such actions were “morally repugnant, dishonor the sacrifices of hundreds of thousands of U.S. soldiers and civilians who have served with distinction in Afghanistan, and do not represent the core values of the United States or our military.”

General Allen said the military would collaborate with Afghan authorities to investigate the photographs.

The strongly worded statements seemed to be in part an attempt to head off reaction in Afghanistan to the photographs. The photograph — along with a story under the headline “U.S. troops posed with body parts of Afghan bombers” — showed a young soldier posing with what seemed to be a hand on his right shoulder. What appears to be the body of a dead insurgent lies in the background.

Nadir Nadiry, an Afghan human rights activist in Kabul, said Afghans would likely react negatively...

No kidding, really?

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What the NYT and its ilk are apparently incapable of understanding is that if the situation were reversed -- if it were an Arab or Pakistani newspaper with a photo of an Afghan "fighter" posing with body parts of dead Americans -- he would be presented as a hero, and Moslems would be celebrating in the streets.

Foaming at the mouth, allahu akbars and riots to follow.

So who the hell cares---IT'S FRICKEN WAR!!! Take your political correctness and shove it where the Sun don't shine.

Abso ruddy lutely, ebonystone.

Taking pictures of suicide bombers who just tried to kill you and your friends, and who probably succeeded in murdering innocent civilians is offensive and an "abuse", but blowing yourself up to murder people isn't. The left is incapable of rational logical thought.

By the way, how many times have the NY Times and Las Angeles photographers taken pictures of dead bodies? And when was the last time that there was a war that people didn't photograph it? That would be sometime before cameras were commercially available, pre-US Civil War.

If Muslims are offended, they should stop blowing themselves up, stop murdering people, stop abusing women and children, stop persecuting non-Muslims, stop rioting and killing innocent people because someone 10,000 miles away draws a cartoon, stop preaching hate, stop ...

here comes more riot!!! a few innocent people will die and everything is happily ever after!!!!!

It seems that the talk is not about a body (part) of an enemy felled by American bullets, but a body of a suicide bomber.

If so, the NYT should be asked why should American soldiers show more respect to a body than the owner of the body who had desecrated it by turning it into instrument of murder.

Such body has no more dignity than a roadkill.

Greetings:

From time immemorial, warriors have taken their trophies. If the only trophies now being taken are photographic, then we are making great progress.

What's disturbing to me, is the flow of soldiers and veterans to media outlets such a RT (Russia Today) and Democracy Now! where the interests of their comrades are sacrificed to leftist media's insatiable hunger for ways to hollow out our capacity to project military power and their individual need for 15 minutes of infamy.

Lastly, for all the obvious reasons, the military and the media have conspired to censor anything close to resembling a body count or reports of effective American military operations. Meanwhile, the Progressive (née Public) Broadcasting System's NewsHour program delineates every American (but only Americans) killed in Iraq or Afghanistan. Contemporary scorekeeping does have its peculiarites. Time to bring back the body counts. The Afghanis may not be able to read, but I bet they can count.

thomas wrote:

"It seems that the talk is not about a body (part) of an enemy felled by American bullets, but a body of a suicide bomber."

That was my thought. The soldiers have a duty to take photos of the crime scene as evidence. The only offensive part is having the soldiers pose and mug for the camera. It was stupid of the soldiers to show their faces but why didn't the LA times blur out the faces and name tags? I don't believe they showed faces in the photos of pissing on dead enemy bodies. Hopefully they blurred out the private bits LOL.

Compare that with the barbaric videos of jihadists beheading "infidels" and proudly posing with the severed head on the video.

“U.S. troops posed with body parts of Afghan bombers”
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Yeah—OK. Not a fan. This is unprofessional, and takes "gallows humor" a bit far.

But this was not a civilian—it wasn't even someone who was killed by US troops:

"The paper said the Afghan died planting a bomb, citing police."

So, in a way, this is like someone here saying "Ha ha!" or "work accident!" writ large. I was also, I admit, not *that* offended by US troops pissing on a few Jihadists' bodies, either.

With the stark exceptions of the Mahmudiyah killings in Iraq in 2006 and the soldier who lost it and shot up a village in Afghanistan just recently, we have run *amazingly* clean and ethical campaigns.

In fact, if anything, we have repeatedly put our own troops in danger—with sometimes fatal results—to avoid putting any civilians at risk—even when those "civilians" are often combatants themselves.

We have prosecuted the cases above, and these actions were condemned by our leadership, military, press, and ordinary citizens.

Meanwhile, the Taliban and other Muslim Jihadists have been running a campaign of terror and atrocities for over a decade now—slaughtering US and allied troops and support staff, as well as thousands of their own people, including deliberate targeting of women and children.

So I'm sick of this moral equivalence—I really am.

The proper response to posing with body parts of a dead Jihadist should have been for their commanding officer to tell them to knock it off—or maybe put the scofflaws on KP for a week.

Splashing it all over the front pages of America's foremost newspapers is just stupid.

But then—they did the same with the accidental Qur'an burning at Bagram, and that was even less excusable, and put even more of our people in danger. Madness.

Meanwhile, in an alternate universe, the Greatest Generation backbites General Patton's men for posing alongside lynched corpses of Mussolini and his entourage.

Check out this debate:

"Watch Soliman,Stornhaug and Jakobsen debate(with my Analysis of it):”Is Islam a Threat to the West?”

http://www.antisharia.com/2012/04/18/watch-solimanstornhaug-and-jakobsen-debatewith-my-analysis-of-itis-islam-a-threat-to-the-west/

AND ALSO

"Hundreds of Christians ask President for justice on places of worship in Indonesia"

http://www.maghrebchristians.com/2012/04/17/hundreds-of-christians-ask-president-for-justice-on-places-of-worship-in-indonesia/

"The 1993 Sivas Massacre of Dozens of Turkish Intellectuals by Muslims,burned to Death in a Hotel

http://www.antisharia.com/2011/07/06/the-1993-sivas-massacre-of-dozens-of-turkish-intellectuals-by-muslimsburned-to-death-in-a-hotel/

Norway killer Anders Behring Breivik inspired by Al Qaeda!!

Insisting that “universal human rights” gave him the mandate to carry out his acts, he described himself as a “militant nationalist” and, using the pronoun “we” to suggest he was part of a larger group, added: “We have drawn from al-Qaeda and militant Islamists.”

“You can see al-Qaeda as the most successful militant group in the world,” Breivik told the court during questioning.

http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/04/17/norway-killer-anders-behring-breivik-tells-terror-trial-al-qaeda-inspired-him-would-repeat-attacks-if-he-could/

My father was a hunter and a sports fisherman (he taught me to do both), and this story reminds me of a photo taken of Dad posing alongside the trophy marlin that he once caught; so maybe these U.S. soldiers view the Afghan jihadists as their trophy kill as well, and body parts were all that was left. I don't find this story as appalling as some since I grew up around hunting, fishing, and my father also served in the Air Force. And I don't mean to upset anyone by holding this view, but I don't see taking these pictures as such a big deal. Hey don't look at the photos if they gross you out ...

Cole wrote:

Norway killer Anders Behring Breivik inspired by Al Qaeda!!

Insisting that “universal human rights” gave him the mandate to carry out his acts, he described himself as a “militant nationalist” and, using the pronoun “we” to suggest he was part of a larger group, added: “We have drawn from al-Qaeda and militant Islamists.”
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Thank you, Cole. This doesn't surprise me all that much. Breivik had already said that he was *willing to work with Jihadists*.

Describing him as an Anti-Jihadist—or even going so far as to present this vile child killer as the face of the Anti-Jihad movement, as many have—just could not be more grotesque.

If America and its allies in WWII had fought that war with the kind of rules, regulations and unclear goals that exist now, coupled with a hostile press that is ever ready to find a new "gothcha' moment," we would have lost that war. Come to think of it, this is pretty much what happened in Vietnam, where the American military won every single major battle of that war, including the Tet Offensive of 1968, but was not allowed to invade the enemy's country and was turned into bad guys by the American press and even by many ordinary Americans, all the while politicians kept looking for a political way out by way of gradual escalation (and then de-escalation) but never unleashing the full might and fury of the American military. If all this teaches anything it teaches that war is all hell, as William Tecumseh Sherman observed, and that you either fight it completely (which would include, among other things, being able to name the enemy---in the Vietnam War we were at least able to do this) or not at all.

you are not upsetting anyone. for the solders to look at it as a trophy is wrong plus the bad PR assocaited with it. then again it is a war.....
M

I would rather see photos of soldiers urinating on Obama.

WANTED: BODY PARTS OF MOSLEM TERRORISTS

Will pay top dollar. Used for desecration ceremony.

You got a part we got the bucks.

Fox reported on this yesterday, on Megan Kelly's show, and it was stated the pictures were taken two years ago. The unit's "slang" call name was "The Zombie Killers" or "Zombie Hunters".

And the best from that segment was, Ralph Peters.

There was a time Ralph Peters was way off on the P.C. , islam a "religion" of peace stuff. No more. His spot on Fox was the best,a most forceful attack on our leadership, all without interruption. Best spot I have seen in quite some time.

If you do a search, it is worth the effort.

Ralph Peters in 2016.

On a bitterly ironic note, at least those good 'ole boys didn't return to Ft Hood and get treated for PTSD by Nidal Hassain.

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