Virginia: Muslim gets 12 years of prison dawah for misunderstanding Islam, aiding jihad terror group

You'd think that Hamas-linked CAIR and other "moderate" "civil rights" Muslim groups would be more proactive in trying to prevent Muslims like Jubair Ahmad from misunderstanding Islam. Yet there is nary a program in any mosque in the U.S. to teach against the jihadist understanding of the Qur'an and Sunnah -- a fact to ponder. Yet all this misunderstanding of Islam is sending young Muslims to jail! You'd think that would move the nation's favorite stomach-stapled beekeeper, Honest Ibe Hooper, and his merry band of thugs to action! But it doesn't -- apparently they have no compassion for poor Misunderstanders of Islam like Jubair Ahmed.

An update on this story. "Jubair Ahmad Of Woodbridge, Va. Gets 12 Year Sentence For Giving Material Support To Terrorist Organization LeT," from WUSA, April 13 (thanks to Kenneth):

ALEXANDRIA, Va. (WUSA) -- A man who lived in Woodbridge has been sentenced for providing material to a terrorist organization.

According to authorities, 24-year-old Jubair Ahmad, who is a native of Pakistan but a Woodbridge resident, was sentenced Friday to 12 years in prison followed by 5 years of supervised release.

Authorities say Ahmad helped promote online propaganda for Lashkar-e-Tayyiba (LeT). Ahmad also conspired to recruit others and raise funds for the organization.

LeT was responsible for the 2008 attack in Mumbai, India that killed 160 people, including two people from Virginia. It's the military arm of the political movement Markaz al-Dawa wal-Irshad in Pakistan," according to the United States Attorney of the Eastern District of Virginia.

According to court records, Ahmad attended LeT training camps as a teen in Pakistan. In 2007, he got a visa and moved from Pakistan to the United States with his family.

Ahmad pleaded guilty to charges last year, admitting that in September 2010 he communicated with Talha Saeed, the son of Hafiz Muhammad Saeed, who is the leader of LeT. Talha Saeed asked Ahmad to make a video containing a prayer by Hafiz Saeed calling for the support of jihad and the mujahideen. He also told Ahmad to put violent images on the video while the prayer played in the background. Talha Saeed told him to search for "Lashkar-e-Taiba" on YouTube to find images of mujahideen operations to put in the video....

At his sentencing, the government presented evidence that Ahmad expressed intention to return to Pakistan for the LeT commando training course and to be launched on a martyrdom mission.

That is, a mass murder mission, to claim the Qur'an's promise of Paradise for those who "kill and are killed" for Allah (9:111).

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Didn't Randall "Ismail" Royer of CAIR get convicted for EXACTLY the same crime for the same organization, a few years ago -

Daniel Pipes has the following expose on Randall Royer's tryst with terrorism and CAIR:
(from http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2003/06/cairs-legal-tribulations )

[...he was indicted and arrested for his association with terrorism, specifically his having joined the Pakistani group Lashkar-e-Taiba, traveled to Pakistan, done propaganda work for it, and "fired at Indian positions in Kashmir."

In addition, the indictment also states that Royer "possessed in his automobile an AK-47-style rifle and 219 rounds of ammunition" in September 2001. The grand jury charges that Royer "did unlawfully and knowingly begin, provide for, prepare a means for, and take part in a military expedition and enterprise to be carried on from the United States against the territory and dominion of India, a foreign state with whom the United States was at peace."

It's also worth noting that Royer was working for the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR), militant Islam's most aggressive political organization in North America, when he began training with Lashkar-e-Taiba.]

The article doesn't say whether he's got American citizenship.

I'm assuming he hasn't.

In which case, the most desirable course of action is obvious, and perfectly simple: once his sentence is served he gets deported to Pakistan, together with his family (since they must be assumed to be supportive of his activities).

And his full description and all identifying particulars get circulated to the gatekeepers of all non-Muslim nations whether western or non-Western, with instructions that he should not be permitted to cross their borders should he show up there.

The article describes him as a resident which would mean he's not a citizen but a foreign national lawfully living in the US.

So many Muslims out there keep misunderstanding their own religion of peace and tolerance (and isn't Islam just a wonderful, gooey, kissy-face, huggy bear of a religion?).

So many of the MSM keep making excuses for this "misunderstanding." Understanding, really understanding, fully understanding, the connection between these two "misunderstandings" will go a long way toward understanding the many misunderstanders of our age. Understand?

I am still in shock that our beloved Marisol is gone from this site...

Apologies for the OT lamentation.

Jus' keep on goin' y'all jihadee clowns! Jus' keep postin' them there violen' messages and film clips straight to da EffBeeI.

The infidel Internet. Come into my parlour said the spider to the jihadee flies.

Total idiots! (But 10 outta 10 to the security services!!)

"You'd think that would move the nation's favorite stomach-stapled beekeeper, Honest Ibe Hooper, and his merry band of thugs to action! But it doesn't -- apparently they have no compassion for poor Misunderstanders of Islam like Jubair Ahmed."

lol, so true, Robert!

When did that happen?

That's news to me.

We ex-Muslims living with Islam's formal and informal death penalty for apostasy know for certain that Islam is an evil ideology/religion both in part and on the whole.

It is good to see that day by day, more and more Muslims are rightly becoming ashamed of the mere word Mohammed...

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In the later years of his life Muhammad was affected by acromegaly, a disease caused by excessive production of a growth hormone, resulting in large bones, cold and fleshy hands and feet and coarse facial features such as enlarged lips, nose and tongue. Acromegaly occurs after the age of 40 and usually kills the patient in his early 60s. It causes impotence, while it increases libido. This explains Muhammad's sexual vagaries in his old age and why in the later years of his life he had such an insatiable craving for sex. He would visit all his 9 wives in one night to touch and fondle them, without being satisfied. His impotence explains his insecurity, paranoia, and intense jealousy of his young wives. He ordered them to cover themselves, lest other men would cast a lusting eye on them. Today, half a billion Muslim women veil themselves, because Muhammad was impotent. Muhammad's illnesses explain a lot of mysteries of Islam.

http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Understanding_Muhammad

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The Myths of Islam

Islam Means ‘Peace’

The Myth:

Lesser educated Muslims sometimes claim that the root word of Islam is “al-Salaam,” which is “peace” in Arabic.

The Truth:

An Arabic word only has one root. The root word for Islam is “al-Silm,” which means “submission” or “surrender.” There is no disagreement about this among Islamic scholars. al-Silm (submission) does not mean the same thing as al-Salaam (peace), otherwise they would be the same word.

Submission and peace can be very different concepts, even if a form of peace is often brought about through forcing others into submission. As the modern-day Islamic scholar, Ibrahim Sulaiman, puts it, "Jihad is not inhumane, despite its necessary violence and bloodshed, its ultimate desire is peace which is protected and enhanced by the rule of law."

In truth, the Quran not only calls Muslims to submit to Allah, it also commands them to subdue people of other religions until they are in a full state of submission to Islamic rule. This has inspired the aggressive history of Islam and its success in conquering other cultures.

Muslims who commit acts of violence and terror in the name of "Allah", can find ample justification for their actions, based on the teachings of the Qur'an and the sayings and examples of the Islamic prophet Muhammad.

Muslims who take upon themselves to destroy their alleged enemies in the name of Allah can rightly claim to be following the commands of Allah in the Qur'an and imitating their prophet as their role model.

Muslims who resort to violence are not an aberration to Islam, but in fact can legitimately claim to be working within the basic parameters of Islamic Jihad.

The following are only some of the verses in the Qur'an that can be used to wage Jihad...

2:190-193 "Fight in the cause of God those who fight you ... And slay them wherever ye catch them ... And fight them on until there is no more tumult or oppression and there prevail justice and faith in God ..."

2:216 "Fighting is prescribed for you and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But God knoweth and ye know not."

2:224 "Then fight in the cause of God and know that God heareth and knoweth all things."

3:157-158 "And if ye are slain or die in the way of God, forgiveness and mercy from God are far better than all they could amass. And if ye die, or are slain, Lo! It is unto God that ye are brought together."

3:169 "Think not of those who are slain in God's way as dead. Nay, they live finding their sustenance in the presence of their Lord."

3:195 "... Those who have ... fought or been slain, verily I will blot out from them their iniquities and admit them into Gardens with rivers flowing beneath; a reward from the presence of God ..."

4:101 "... For the Unbelievers are unto you open enemies."

4:74, 75 "Let those fight in the cause of God who sell the life of this world for the Hereafter. To him who fighteth in the cause of God whether he is slain or gets victory, soon shall we give him a reward of great (value). Those who believe fight in the cause of God and those who reject faith fight in the cause of evil, so fight ye against the friends of Satan, feeble indeed is the cunning of Satan."

4:89 "They but wish that ye should reject faith as they do, and thus be on the same footing as they. But take not friends from their ranks until they flee in the way of God. But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever ye find them…"

4:95 "Not equal are those believers who sit at (at home) and receive no hurt and those who strive and fight in the cause of God with their goods and their persons. God hath granted a grade higher to those who strive and fight with their goods and persons than those who sit (at home).

5:36 "The punishment of those who wage war against God and His apostle and strive with might and main for mischief through the land is: execution, or crucifixion, or the cutting off of hands and feet from opposite sides, or exile from the land. That is their disgrace in this world and a heavy punishment is theirs in the Hereafter."

5:54 "O ye who believe. Take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends and protectors. They are but friends and protectors to each other. And he amongst you that turns to them (for friendship) is of them. Verily God guideth not a people unjust."

8:12-17 "Remember thy Lord inspired the angels (with the message): "I am with you. Give firmness to the believers. I will instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers. Smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger tips off them. This because they contend against God and his apostle. If any contend against God and his apostle, God is strict in punishment ... O ye who believe. When ye meet the unbelievers in hostile array, never turn your backs to them. If any do turn his back to them on such a day, unless it be a stratagem of war ... he draws on himself the wrath of God and his abode is Hell, an evil refuge (indeed)."

8:59-60 "Let not the unbelievers think that they can get the better (of the godly). They will never frustrate (them). Against them make ready your strength to the utmost of your power, including steeds of war, to strike terror into (the hearts of) the enemies of God and your enemies and others besides, whom ye may not know, but whom God doth know ..."

8:65 "O apostle! Rouse the believers to the fight. If there are twenty amongst you, patient and persevering, they will vanquish two hundred. If a hundred they will vanquish a thousand of the unbelievers, for these are a people without understanding."

9:5 "... fight and slay the pagans wherever ye find them, and seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war) ..."

9:14 "Fight them, and God will punish them by your hands, cover them with shame ..."

9:29 "Fight those who believe not in God nor the Last Day nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by God and his apostle nor acknowledge the Religion of Truth (even if they are) of the people of the Book, until they pay the Jizya [religious tax] with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued."

47:4 "Therefore, when ye meet the unbelievers, smite at their necks, at length when ye have thoroughly subdued them, bind a bond firmly (on them) ... but if it had been God's will, he could certainly have exacted retribution from them (himself), but (he lets you fight) in order to test you, some with others. But those who are slain in the way of God, he will never let their deeds be lost."

61:4 "Truly God loves those who fight in His cause in battle array, as if they were a solid cemented structure."


Here is a recent statement from a group of Bangladeshi apostates living in the UK explaining the reasons why they have abandoned Islam:

"One who claims to be a messenger of God is expected to live a saintly life. He must not be given to lust, he must not be a sexual pervert, and he must not be a rapist, a highway robber, a war criminal, a mass murderer or an assassin. One who claims to be a messenger of God must have a superior character. He must stand above the vices of the people of his time. Yet Muhammad’s life is that of a gangster godfather. He raided merchant caravans, looted innocent people, massacred entire male populations and enslaved the women and children. He raped the women captured in war after killing their husbands and told his followers that it is okay to have sex with their captives (Qur'an 33:50). He assassinated those who criticized him and executed them when he came to power and became de facto despot of Arabia. Muhammad was bereft of human compassion. He was an obsessed man with his dreams of grandiosity and could not forgive those who stood in his way...

The statement continues,

Muhammad was a narcissist, like Hitler, Saddam or Stalin. He was astute and knew how to manipulate people, but his emotional intelligence was less evolved than that of a 6-year-old child. He simply could not feel the pain of others. He brutally massacred thousands of innocent people and pillaged their wealth. His ambitions were big and as a narcissist he honestly believed he is entitled to do as he pleased and commit all sorts of crimes and his evil deeds are justified."

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Ex-Muslim Ali Sina's ongoing challenge to Muslims can be found over at Faith Freedom.org:

THE CHALLENGE

If you do not like this site and want me to remove it, instead of acting as a bully or as a victim, disprove my charges against Muhammad logically. Not only will I remove the site, I will publicly announce that Islam is a true religion. I will also pay

$50,000 U.S. dollars

to anyone who can disprove any of the dozen of the accusations that I have made against Muhammad. I accuse Muhammad of being:

a narcissist
a misogynist
a rapist
a pedophile
a lecher
a torturer
a mass murderer
a cult leader
an assassin
a terrorist
a madman
a looter

...You simply can’t disprove them because they are reported in Islamic sources and as such they are as good as confession...

http://www.faithfreedom.org/the-challenge/the-challenge/

Marisol is *gone* ?! Why ? When ? Where ?

Naturalized citizens who are convicted of terrorism charges should be stripped of their US citizenship and deported after serving their sentences. They obviously did not take their oath of citizenship seriously, and are therefore in violation of the terms of citizenship.

The USA lacks the resources to assign permanent FBI agent to track the activities of every Muslim entering this country.

Thumbs up for Marisol...a job well done...

I wholly agree, Duh_swami ...and Marisol will be greatly missed :(

Many blessings to you, Marisol! xoxo

Seconded.

She did a great job.

I'm sure she'll keep on educating, educating, educating and warning, wherever she is.

Thirded.

I'll also miss her sense of humour. (Not to say that Mr. Spencer can't be funny too !)

I came late to this, and normally wouldn't comment.

But I will greatly miss Marisol Seibold, as well. She did all she did here and still held down a day job.

I will miss her specific take on stories and her marvelous sense of humor.

I'm coming back from another thread where some of us were wondering why Marisol was absent. I was sorry to learn that she has moved on. I wish her well going forward.

I greatly appreciate the work Marisol has done here over the years in contributing to the Jihadwatch project.

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