Always the victim: UK Muslim leaders warn of “Islamophobia” in wake of Muslim rape/prostitution gang case

This is almost as obscene as the case itself. In light of the fact that forcing non-Muslim girls to be sex slaves is in accord with Islamic law, these Muslim leaders should not just be issuing empty condemnations, but instituting comprehensive programs in mosques and madrassas to teach against the beliefs and attitudes that lead to this kind of behavior with such increasing frequency among Muslim men in Britain. Instead, they are crying about “Islamophobia,” and thereby demonstrating why so many people dislike and distrust them in the first place. “Muslim leaders warn of far right exploitation of Rochdale child sex case,” by Matthew Taylor and Haroon Siddique for the Guardian, May 11 (thanks to all who sent this in):

Far-right groups are exploiting the conviction of nine men who were part of a gang that groomed girls for sex to create a “climate of hate” against Muslims, community leaders have warned.

Muslim groups say they have seen an upsurge in hate mail and abusive phone calls since the trial ended this week and community leaders are bracing themselves for more Islamophobic attacks on individual Muslims and mosques across the UK.

“We are already receiving hate mail and hate phone calls even though we issued a very strong statement condemning those involved,” said a spokesman for the Muslim Council of Britain. “If it can happen to MCB, you can just imagine what ordinary Muslims are facing as they go about their day-to-day business.”

Eight of the nine men convicted at Liverpool crown court for their involvement in a gang in Rochdale, Greater Manchester, that sexually exploited girls were of Pakistani heritage, and Muslim groups say far-right organisations such as the British National party and the English Defence League (EDL) have used the trial to demonise and abuse the entire community.

Fiyaz Mughal, from Faith Matters, which has set up a new helpline to monitor anti-Muslim attacks, said the Islamophobic hatred prompted by the case had added to the “poison” against Muslims.

“This is dangerous for community relations,” he said. “There’s lots of discussion about ‘Muslim paedos’, like saying the prophet married a young girl. All of this disgusting talk is adding to the poison against Muslims.”…

Muslims’ actions done in the name of Islam and in accord with Islamic texts and teachings is what causes any “poison against Muslims.”

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  1. says

    “Of course you find pedophiles and rapists in all communities, but these are nearly always loners operating in secret, because pedophiles are despised and hated by normal people.

    However Islam is different. Pedophilia is socially acceptable in Islam because the Muslims’ role model and ‘perfect man’, the false prophet Mohammed, was a particularly perverted pedophile.

    In addition, pedophile attacks on ‘kuffar’ (non-Muslim) children are seen as a legitimate form of jihad, inflicting humiliation, degradation and demoralisation on the children and their parents, as required by the Koran.

    The Islamic invasion of the West is one huge razzia (raid of rape and pillage) and Western children are war booty. Pedophilia is widespread in Muslim communities, with Christian children being the main targets. The pedophiles operate in well-organised gangs and networks. They are protected and encouraged by their wider communities and enjoy immunity from prosecution so as not to damage ‘Community Cohesion’… http://crombouke.blogspot.com/2010/01/muslim-pedophile-gangs-prey-on-british.html

  2. says

    Muslim retards make me sick, as well as angry.
    A phobia is an irrational fear or dislike of something. Fear or dislike of Islam is perfectly rational as Islam’s track record proves that one has to be weary of it. The proof is in the pudding, so they say.
    People like me, and that includes I suspect, most of the people who read this blog, as well as the blog author Robert Spencer and those of his ilk, are not perturbed and are not fooled. Cry-baby Muslims can play the victim as much as they like. They are nothing but irresponsible sociopaths, who are enabled and supported by arrogant idiots.
    Islam is a criminal syndicate that must be eradicated. Muslims are simply the brainwashed victims of this insidious cult. Islamists (true Muslims) must be stopped before they do further damage and moderate Muslims (false Muslims) must be set free from this crap.

  3. says

    In the long run, UK is doomed, thanks to the immigratin doors opened to Islamic Trojan Horse.
    In the short run, UK can support patriotic parties like EDL.
    Don’t think Brits have the stomach to fight the dirty muslims at the same level.
    For those shocked, scream Islamphonbia and wonder about ‘dirty muslims, don’t need to go too far.just need to see the topic of this post. Then again, same leftists, while crying ‘wolf (aka Islamophbia), fail to see the Trojan Horse.
    EDL is UK’s only hope.

  4. says

    Muslims have the right to believe whatever they want, they do NOT have the right to enforce Sharia law in the U.K. or the U.S. or to commit crimes as defined by U.K. and U.S. law. Citizens of the U.K. and the U.S. have the right to hate Islam but do not have the right to commit crimes, as defined by U.K. and U.S. law, against Muslims. People in the West have the right NOT to submit to Islam, unless they surrender their rights, pay jizya, and become dhimmis.

    The Islamic “right” of Muslim men to have captive sex slaves is a right under Sharia law, not U.K. law. Under U.K. law, rape is a crime. The conviction of these pedophile rapists is a refusal to submit/surrender to Sharia law. It is a victory against Islamic conquest jihad.

  5. says

    The teenage girls of the UK have less to worry about now that the problem is out in the open and the media are all over it
    – well, not quite. Of two current stories, one

    http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/news/9694300._Depraved__pair_locked_up_for_grooming_girl__13__for_sex/

    seems only have been reported in he local newspaper, although you can find another on the BBC website – if you have a particular interest in Cumbrian affairs:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cumbria-18035687

  6. says

    I went and had a look at that creepy ‘Guardian’ article.

    I observed that it was not open for Comments.

    I suspect that this is because if it had, it would have been simply swamped by intelligent and scathing remarks from the ever-growing number of British non-Muslims who are not buying the Muslim pantomime of victimhood any longer.

    For the benefit of those who may have come in here just lately, and may be new to this site and this subject, I will provide links to several classic articles on the subject of the despicable Muslim bullies’ constant attempts to pose as poor lil persecuted petals: even when they are caught red-handed or, as in the case of the nine Mohammedan pimps and sex-slavers who have just been jailed in the UK, with their pants down.

    First, two articles by ‘David Thompson’, on the subject of Muslim grievance theatre and the pantomime of victimhood.

    1. It’s OK to Dislike Islam

    http://davidthompson.typepad.com/davidthompson/2007/03/intimidation_re.html

    and 2. ‘The Passive-Aggressive Jihad’

    http://davidthompson.typepad.com/davidthompson/2007/03/the_passiveaggr.html

    From the first of these, the following passage says it all:

    “There is nothing wrong with an attack on Islam (or any other sacred belief).”

    “One of the creeping, unanalysed myths of our time is that it is somehow wrong to dislike Islam, or any part thereof, and wrong to take a dim view of its tenets and demands, and wrong to take a still dimmer view of the figure who founded it.

    “I can practically hear the distant tutting and grunts of disapproval. ‘Poor Islam. Poor Muslims. Their beliefs are being mocked. How hurtful. How ‘racist.’ How terribly unfair’.

    “No. It’s not unfair at all.

    “What’s unfair is a demand for unearned deference and a unilateral exemption from the testing of ideas.

    “What’s unfair, indeed despicable, are efforts by Islamic groups to cow dissent and stifle criticism with a well-rehearsed pantomime of victimhood and the projection of false motives.

    “Pretending to be hurt in order to assert one’s will over others, even violently, or to gain unreciprocated favours, or to exert control over what others may say and think, is cowardly and malign.

    “Let me say that once again. It’s cowardly and malign..”.

    And then there is this brief, and magnificent article from the Sultan Knish blog:

    http://sultanknish.blogspot.com/2011/11/dangers-of-legitimizing-islamic.html
    Sunday, November 13, 2011

    ‘The Dangers of Legitimizing Muslim Grievances ‘.

    Do please, if you haven’t encountered these pieces, click and read.

    The Ummah or Mohammedan Mob in the UK is howling and squealing because, in these trials, the sheer ugliness of the boundless male Mohammedan sense of entitlement, and their despicable preying upon the vulnerable (and although the apologists will say that the early-teen victims were ‘bad’ girls, let us not forget that in places like Egypt and Pakistan, Muslim males openly kidnap and drug and rape – and force-‘convert’ – not troubled teenagers from broken homes or institutions, but ‘good’ girls, the perfectly well-brought-up well-behaved daughters of stable and pious Christian or, in Pakistan, Hindu homes, so it isn’t just girls whom some might identify as ‘easy’ who can become victims, ALL non-Muslim female are targeted by Mohammedan predators) has been made public for all to see. The arrogance, self-conceit and absolute shamelessness of the Mohammedan pedophile rapists and pimps within the courtroom whilst on trial, has also been very, very revealing. And more and more and more non-Muslim Britons are quietly drawing conclusions.

    The gremlin is out of the sack. Too many non-Muslims, now, have seen the teeth and the claws.

    And the Muslims can sense the ground shifting dangerously beneath their feet.

    Their colonies in Britain may not be as safe or as permanent as they were coming to think.

    I can only say to the EDL, and to the British Freedom Party, and to every other decent Briton who is involved with the Resistance to Islamisation: POUR ON THE PRESSURE. *Especially*, now.

    The louder the Muslims try to cry victim the louder you must shout the truth about Islam – about jihad, about sharia, about what Muslims believe Mohammed did, including the business with Aisha, and the rape of Safiyya, and all the rest of it – to the housetops.

  7. says

    On the subject of Mohammedan misogyny, and in particular, the rapes of non-Muslim women that are routine in Muslim-majority countries and also wherever Muslims have established a strong enough colony within kafir-majority countries:

    a deeply disturbing and wide-ranging symposium that took place at ‘Front Page’ on March 7 2006, entitled “To Rape an Unveiled Woman”.

    http://archive.frontpagemag.com/readArticle.aspx?ARTID=5347

    Participants were

    “Pierre Rehov, a French filmmaker who has filmed six documentaries on the Palestinian Intifada. His new documentary, Suicide Killers, explores the psychology of suicide bombers. It is based on interviews with the victims of suicide bombers, the families of suicide bombers, would-be bombers themselves, and experts on suicide killer mentality.

    “Nancy Kobrin, an affiliated professor to the University of Haifa, Arabist, psychoanalyst and author of the upcoming book, The Sheikh’s New Clothes: Islamic Suicide Terror and What It’s Really All About;

    “Peter Raddatz, a German scholar of Islamic Studies and the co-author of the renowned “Encyclopaedia of Islam.”
    He is the author of many books, including From Allah to Terror? Jihad and the Western Deformation, Allah’s Veil and The Turkish Danger. In a few months he will publish World Risk Iran
    .
    “and
    Gudrun Eussner, a journalist with a Ph.D at Free University Berlin, specializing in mass communication and political science, and Iranian philology. She has experience working in numerous Muslim countries, including Bosnia, Indonesia, Kuwait, Malaysia, Morocco, Pakistan, Turkey, Usbekistan and others.”

    Just a sample. Peter Raddatz, on the mindset and basic paradigm of Islam:

    “We are dealing here with premodern, partly archaic thinking that divides its world into two Manichaean halves.

    “Irrespective of the usual statistical remnant of liberal “dissidents”, the orthodox ideology bases on an Islamic half that accords to Koran and “prophetic” tradition and a non-Islamic half consisting of unbelievers and disobedient women.

    “The religious war – known as “jihad” – against the latter two groups belongs, therefore, to the most prominent duties of the “believing” Muslim.

    “Its “religious” dimension is boosted enormously by customary family “honor” installing male control from early youth on, often widening into brutal raping, sometimes incestuous punishing patterns…

    “the ontological being in Islam is not defined by individual right but clearly as integral part of the community in terms of a whole and “holy” entirety.

    “In this context the primary form of human being is seen in the male that assumes the right and duty to assist Allah in conserving and expanding his “umma”, meaning his community.

    ‘Its biologistic “thinking” demands the “pure” man as the real human dominating the “impure” woman as a lower form, rather close to some animal-like existence.

    ‘Therefore, sexuality cannot be sublimated and has to serve – aside from ramifications into homo-, paedo- and sodo-variants – a basic double function: fertilizing and punishing.”

    Raddatz is right. The way the Muslim men treated these poor girls in the UK was vile. It was all about sadistic humiliation, degradation and punishment.

    And Gudrun Eussner:

    “On the one hand you have
    sexuality as a tool serving the expansion of Islam,
    and on the other hand there is
    sexuality as a weapon against disobedient and non-Muslim women, both categorized as “unbelievers”.
    Against them jihad is the duty, and what to do with women “conquered” in jihad, this may be read in the Qur’an: they become slaves to be used by the victors.”

    And it goes on…

    A deeply depressing – and revolting, and infuriating – subject, but it is necessary to know the mind of the enemy.

  8. says

    “This is dangerous for community relations,” he said. “There’s lots of discussion about ‘Muslim paedos’, like saying the prophet married a young girl. All of this disgusting talk is adding to the poison against Muslims.”…

    Wait a minute…

    The “prophet” DID marry a young girl!
    How can you tell when a muslim is lying? His mouth is open!

    And what’s dangerous for “community relations?” That’s an easy one; MUSLIMS in the community! When you have to fight savages to protect your children on your streets, you’re suffering from the dreaded TMM Syndrome–Too Many Muslims.

    “Poison” against muslims? Oh, so for muslims rape and pedophilia aren’t poison…TRUTH is poison! Got it…

  9. says

    “This is dangerous for community relations.”

    Yes, it is. When one sub-culture deliberately targets another for paedophilic prostitution, that severely damages inter-cultural trust.

    The best thing would be for a strong statement of dissociation from the Muslim community. “We reject these criminal actions. We hope to learn more details of what drove these men to such a despicable crime so that we can be on alert for other individuals in our community who have similar problems. We are committed to tackling crime at the roots.”

    “There’s lots of discussion about ‘Muslim paedos’, like saying the prophet married a young girl. All of this disgusting talk is adding to the poison against Muslims.”

    If Mr Mughal continues to describe Mohammed as a “prophet”, of course people are going to assume that he condones Mohammed’s behaviour. Since Mohammed (unlike other religious leaders) did commit paedophilia, Muslims who remain neutral on this issue may well be labelled “paedphiles”. The only way they can avoid this is if they make a specific statement that they don’t condone everything Mohammed did. How about this?

    “Mohammed committed a terrible crime. If he lived in Britain today, he would be serving a very long jail sentence. We denounce Mohammed’s child-marriage. It is an example of how Muslims should not be behaving.”

    Carried over from yesterday’s discussion …

    And yes I DO blame the victims for putting themselves in harm’s way, their parents for not taking sufficient care of them,

    These girls had no parents. The newspapers clearly report it: they were all residents of care homes. Yes, it is a terrible thing to be an orphan! But how does that justify the people who deliberately oppress orphans?

    the free-wheeling society and the underlying issues of drugs/drink/sex

    No, drugs are not an “underlying issue”. They are a symptom.

    Sex is a somewhat lower-lying issue, but still not the base-level problem. Why did these adult men have such perverted, free-wheeling attitudes to sex? Which society taught them they could have any child they liked for the price of a fish-and-chip takeaway – a price sometimes not even paid to the girl, but to some other man?

    The society that gave freedom to “consenting adults in private” never approved of this. Free-wheeling sexual promiscuity explains commitment-phobic men, broken marriages, carelessness with the hearts of others and psychological devastation … but it does not explain violence. Which society encouraged the raping of war-captives?

    but it seems to me that you *never* blame anybody else except the perpetrators

    In any crime, an adult perpetrator must take the majority of the blame. That is what personal responsibility means.

    But when it comes to asking why the Rochdale rapists behaved so vilely, we can certainly blame other contributing factors.

    1. Absence of childhood nurture. While we have no evidence of that in this case (as the question was not asked), it is such giant contributor to crime that we must suspect it as the first culprit. It would be very interesting to know what went wrong in these men’s childhoods. How did they lose empathy for other human beings?

    2. External locus of control. Again, we don’t know … but were these men taught that they had no control over their actions? Was it all the fault of the next villagse, the government, the wicked West, the jinn or kismet? Were they trained to consider themselves too weak to control their urges, therefore not morally responsible for anything they did?

    3. Culture of despising women. Again, we don’t know much about their “Pakistani village,” but we do know that Pakistan in general is a bad place to be a woman. Did their fathers beat their mothers? Did women do 90% of the work for only 10% of the benefits? Did men shout at women? If a man mistreated a woman, was it considered “her fault” for failing to deliver the correct service? Did village culture make it impossible for a man to have a natural social relationship with a woman as a fellow human being?

    4. The example of a corrupt prophet. If Mohammed is the perfect example for the human race, of course his followers are likely to reason: “Mohammed did it, so I should do it too.” Mohammed allowed himself as many women as he liked; his age-limit was no lower than eight (although his upper limit appears to have been about 48); the woman’s consent was optional, and deemed absolute even if extracted by duress or trickery. If the Rochdale rapists knew their prophet’s biography, it is easy to see why they felt their actions were justified.

    5. Confidence of never being caught. People who don’t care about other people cannot be controlled by either reason or punishment. The only factor that restrains them is the fear of being caught. So we need to ask: What was going on in Rochdale that left them so certain the authorities would never discover or care about their activities?

    6. Disrespect for authority. For all that the Rochdale rapists were born abroad and came to Britain voluntarily, they seem to have had no respect for the authority of the British law. Could it be that someone advised them that British law did not apply to them because only sharia law was binding? We don’t really know, because once again, this question was not asked.

    7. The Care system. And, yes, no matter how bad those men were, more could have been done to protect the girls. The British “care” system does not work very well, and those girls were very vulnerable. However, “being vulnerable” is not a crime. Exploiting other people’s vulnerability instead of helping them – that’s a crime.

  10. says

    Of course the victims are rapists and Islam – not the girls that are raped. The poor rapists are the victims of Islamophobia and poor Islam has been vilified again for merely leading the poor rapists to give the infidel girls what they deserved anyway.

  11. says

    This is good news, the British people are finallly waking up & smelling the Muslim stench, they also obviously know full well the MSM code name for Asian means Muslim.

  12. says

    Ya know what? Maybe it’s time they actually felt real fear. Not from vigilante violence of course. But it’s time they were made to see the wolf, instead of crying that they see it every day. It’s pretty obvious by now that they don’t really see any wolf and never have.

    If these self appointed community leaders knew their own heads were on the block they might be more likely to start encouraging the people they claim to lead to finally become civilized and drop the ways of thinking and living that contributed to their countries of origin becoming so unlivable for them in the first place.

    Everyone knows that the NGZ’s are partially caused by drug dealers. And everyone knows dangerous islamic radicals tend to have child pornography on their hard drives. I would not be suprised in the least if such illegal things were found in the possession of some of these more suspicious self proclaimed community leaders. The police or intelligence services just need to look harder.

  13. says

    ‘Comment is free but facts are sacred’. Guardian editor, CP Scott, 1921.

    So what happened?

    I’ll tell you. The Guardian has been hijacked by Frankfurt School cultural Marxism and it’s opportunistic and parasitic hanger on, Islamism. Both pretty much avowed enemies of those touted, ‘sacred facts’.

    All very fashionable in the eighties and nineties, these dinosaur armchair warriors still chunter on about class struggle, racism and the new(ish) kid on the grievance block, islamophobia.

    Unfortunately during the the twelve year tenure of the Guardian’s favoured left the islamists were left pretty much alone and thus diversity obsessed Chief Constables and the useless CPS blocked investigation into Muslim criminality using precisely the argument we see here.

    Backlash? They have to be kidding! Imagine the outcry and mob violence if the shoe were on the other foot?

    Imagine the tales of poor ravaged Muslim girls, raped and polluted by rapacious, sex crazed kuffars?

    Yet again, paradoxically you can bet that many would love it.

    Such is the resentment of being economically forced into living in the Dar el Harb they’d sacrifice their very own as tokenistic straw men (or rather, girls) just to prove what monsters they are obliged to dwell amongst.

    Come on. They kill their own female offspring at the least suspicion, a little sacrificial rape isn’t beyond their boundless bounds of immorality.

    However this isn’t the case and this ‘backlash’ isn’t happening.

    I’ve yet to hear of the massed pitchfork and torch bearing mobs swarming into the self imposed ghetto’s and you can bet your last dollar that it won’t happen.

    Yet more from those tortured imaginations, this is classic but we’re not buying it.

    Neither it seems is the public with regard to the Guardian whose very existence, and a squalid one at that, is held by a string via the Scott Trust and its main profit earner, the Auto Trader.

    In other words were it not for a classified car sales rag the noble Guardian would sink without a trace.

    How the mighty fall, eh?

  14. says

    There is an excellent video by Paul Weston on the British Freedom site regarding this.

    http://britishfreedom.org/video-muslim-rape-and-liberalleft-complicity/

    Like Paul, I am particularly disgusted by the way in which this has been deliberately covered up by the police, social services, media and politicians for years. They have known exactly what was happening but have chosen to hush it up rather than bringing it into the limelight. This was because they were terrified of being accused of racism.

    Those whose job it was to inform and protect the public have deliberately put them at risk because they were frightened of being called names. By failing to inform parents of the risks their children were facing they have acquiesced in the activities of these paedophile gangs. How many young girls have been viciously raped, sexually assaulted or otherwise traumatised because of their wanton neglect? Yet how many police chiefs, social services bosses, or media editors have been sacked for gross dereliction of duty? Nor will any be sacked as the politically correct mafia will all rally round to protect them. Where were they when the young girls needed protecting?

    The media and politicians are still in denial, refusing to see it as a Muslim issue despite the mountain of evidence. They persist in referring to these monsters as Asians, as if Chinese, Filipinos or Indian Hindus are just as likely to behave in the same manner. I lose count of the number of articles that have had the comments facility closed regarding these rapists. Even the so called right wing press like the Telegraph have not allowed any comments, perhaps because they were scared of being told a few home truths.

  15. says

    Suppose that it was a gang of EDL and BNP members that had been running this rape ring. Would the MSM and the leftist politicians have been warning against any anti-EDL or anti-BNP backlash? Would they have been setting up hot-lines to report any anti-EDL or anti-BNP actions?
    Somehow I don’t think so.

  16. says

    Always the victim: UK Muslim leaders warn of “Islamophobia” in wake of Muslim rape/prostitution gang case
    …………………………….

    *Repulsive*. These Muslim “leaders” have no decency.

    But then, this is absolutely stock behaviour at this point”following every foiled jihad terror plot, every act of Muslim savagery, every attempt by Muslims to victimize others”you hear the predictable while that that this makes the Muslim community look bad, and might lead to a “backlash”.

    Hence, we are supposed to shift our concern from *actual* raped and abused Infidel children to Muslims theoretically suffering from backlash.

    If they mean violent backlash, this has proven entirely illusory. No backlash after 9/11, after the Madrid train bombings, or after the 7/7 London tube and bus bombings.

    If they mean Infidels looking ever more warily at Muslims”well, *that* can only be “legislated” through the unearned guilt of political correctness.

    Here’s a related anecdote. It did not involve a Muslim, but the scenario is *very* similar.

    When I was in my late teens, I lived in some pretty rough neighborhoods, because that is what I could afford. I also often traveled at all times of the day and night, since I had a variety of menial jobs I was trying to shoehorn around my full university schedule.

    One time I was at a bus stop late at night with a large, rather menacing-looking African-American man. I scooted over to the other end of the bench, and tried to keep replying to his comments to a minimum. When he moved over towards me, I got up and withdrew to the far end of the bus stop.

    He suddenly burst out with affront that it seemed I was “being racist”. Actually, I would have kept my distance as much as possible from almost any lone man at that time of night.

    But he started haranguing me, and”fool that I was”I started feeling guilty. He said “you aren’t racist, are you?” To prove that I was not, I sat back down on the bench.

    And he pulled out a knife and robbed me.

    He laughed and said it was just what I expected, anyway”as though I had forced him to rob me because I had shown fear. Of course, he probably would have robbed me in any case. But I certainly made it easier for him by buying into his meretricious claim of victimhood.

    More:

    This is almost as obscene as the case itself. In light of the fact that forcing non-Muslim girls to be sex slaves is in accord with Islamic law, these Muslim leaders should not just be issuing empty condemnations, but instituting comprehensive programs in mosques and madrassas to teach against the beliefs and attitudes that lead to this kind of behavior with such increasing frequency among Muslim men in Britain. Instead, they are crying about “Islamophobia,” and thereby demonstrating why so many people dislike and distrust them in the first place.
    …………………………….

    Yeah”but they won’t. And how many Westerners will even think to ask them?

    More:

    Far-right groups are exploiting the conviction of nine men who were part of a gang that groomed girls for sex to create a “climate of hate” against Muslims, community leaders have warned.
    …………………………….

    Grotesque. No concern for the *actual* victims here”the raped and abused under-aged girls. Anyone noticing that this sort of sex-slavery is common and sanctioned Muslim behavior is branded a “right-wing hater”–as though the ‘really cool people’ would embrace this sort of savage exploitation.

    More:

    Eight of the nine men convicted at Liverpool crown court for their involvement in a gang in Rochdale, Greater Manchester, that sexually exploited girls were of Pakistani heritage, and Muslim groups say far-right organisations such as the British National party and the English Defence League (EDL) have used the trial to demonise and abuse the entire community.
    …………………………….

    Again, the only real abuse here was of Infidel girls. You’d never know that from the reaction of these Muslim “leaders”.

    More:

    Fiyaz Mughal, from Faith Matters, which has set up a new helpline to monitor anti-Muslim attacks, said the Islamophobic hatred prompted by the case had added to the “poison” against Muslims.
    …………………………….

    Fiyaz Mughal ran for mayor of London in 2007. In his election statement, he claims that Muslim terrorism is due to Muslims feeling *scared of civilized Brits*. More classic projection:

    “The Induction Programme will be all about assuring people that they have a proper home and a future in this country- not just a survival base. It will be aimed at removing the *feelings of threat and insecurity* which drive young men to terrorism.” [emphasis mine”GI]

    ‘A London United, Not Divided’

    http://fiyazmughal.org.uk/en/article/2007/112991/a-london-united-not-divided-1

    More from Fiyaz Mughal:

    “This is dangerous for community relations,” he said. “There’s lots of discussion about ‘Muslim paedos’, like saying the prophet married a young girl. All of this disgusting talk is adding to the poison against Muslims.”…
    …………………………….

    Very sly. Anyone reading this casually would assume that saying the “prophet” married a young girl was made up out of whole cloth by nasty ol’ “Islamophobes””instead of being a long-established and canonical part of Islamic texts, and one that leads to the rape and abuse of young girls all over the Muslim world today.

    Just the sort of exploitation, in fact, suffered by the young Infidel girls in this rape/prostitution gang case.

  17. says

    So worried the British authorities were about Muslim feelings – that they allowed British girls as young as 13 to be raped by these Muslim men!!

    Not causing offense took priority over human rights and even UK law – was bent to serve this end.

    The Guardian naturally – would have great difficulty expressing genuine concern about the welfare of these girls – they were Christian/other or not Muslim.

    How could they face their friends on the flotilla to Israel – having criticized Islamic norms.

    See Pakistan and Egypt for similar disregard of non-Muslim girls – where as a Muslim – under Shari’a based laws – these men can act with impunity!

  18. says

    @ Diana Summers

    “These girls had no parents. The newspapers clearly report it: they were all residents of care homes. Yes, it is a terrible thing to be an orphan! But how does that justify the people who deliberately oppress orphans?”

    It seems to me, for all those who play the moral equivalence card, that both the Book of Psalms and the Book of James in the Bible speak of God as protector of orphans, and several of the prophets seem to think that the oppression of such is a very grave sin in the eyes of the Lord.

  19. says

    Author Profile Page Softly Bob | May 11, 2012 3:18 PM | Reply

    “Muslim retards make me sick, as well as angry.”

    Glad you are angry, Bob, its the only sane response. When I posted on the 4 freedoms community ( a supposed ‘counterjihad’ site ) the other day, I was told that ‘trying to change society can only lead to frustration and possibly the mad house’. When I complained that this was the statement of a spineless ninny, I was warned off by the moderators.
    So I hope you are not actively dong anything to try and change the views of your neighbours, friends, family etc in case you get frustrated or end up in the mad house.I’m sure no one else is doing anything – apart from me that is, and I’m certainly headed for the mad house in this nation of spineless ninnies.

  20. says

    Diana Summers wrote:

    “These girls had no parents. The newspapers clearly report it: they were all residents of care homes. Yes, it is a terrible thing to be an orphan! But how does that justify the people who deliberately oppress orphans?”
    ………………………..

    Diana and Kepha–just one small point. Not all of these girls are orphans”not in the literal sense, anyway. A lot of these children have been removed from homes where they were abused or criminally neglected; some had parents who abandoned them; and some have parents who are incarcerated.

    Some few do eventually return to their parents, but many more are never able to. Additionally, some do wind up in stable foster homes or even adopted”but this is rare with older children, or with kids who have been in trouble themselves.

    Here’s some general information about Care Homes in Britain:

    “Children ‘in care’ too often receive no such thing”

    “Much more needs to be done to place vulnerable children into loving homes rather than overstretched institutions”

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/may/02/children-in-care-loving-homes

    The sad situation is almost identical with “Group Homes” in the States”where likewise there are not enough foster homes and adoptive parents to go around. I imagine every nation in the West is dealing with these issues”as well as predators”increasingly, organized Muslim predators”who exploit both these children and the gaps in the system.

  21. says

    gravenimage, you’re right, of course. But there are few children in Britain who have suffered the death of both parents, and the majority of those would have other living relatives who love them.

    The scenaria that you describe turn children into de facto orphans. It is a terrible thing to bring children into the world and then orphan them deliberately.

    Howver, no matter what sins parents commit that make some children needlessly “orphans” … no matter how badly the state fails in its duty to care for them … that still does not justify the additional abuse by gangs who had no business having anything whatsoever to do with those children in the first place.

  22. says

    Diana Summers wrote:

    Howver, no matter what sins parents commit that make some children needlessly “orphans” … no matter how badly the state fails in its duty to care for them … that still does not justify the additional abuse by gangs who had no business having anything whatsoever to do with those children in the first place.
    …………………………………………

    Oh! Of course not”and I hope you didn’t think that I thought that it did.

    And I very much agree with you that most of these children are *de facto* orphans.

    Under just slightly different circumstances, I could have been one of these victims. I ran away from a terribly abusive home at fifteen, and spent some time living on the streets. I was acutely aware of how vulnerable I was.

  23. says

    That certainly explains your empathy. After experiences like that, you either harden and hate the whole world or soften and understand other people’s suffering like your own.

    I agree that the Islamists are likely to blame the parents simply because the girls are not “real” orphans, i.e. parents can’t help dying but they can help failing to control their daughters. Sociopaths always do blame anyone except themselves.