Bin Laden apologist (Hussein Ibish) to debate Ahmadinejad apologist (Reza Aslan) on Israel at UCLA

In light of the jihad doctrine and the stated goals of jihad groups like Hamas, there is no difference between a one-state solution and a two-state solution. A two-state solution only includes an additional step, but in either case the ultimate goal is the same: the destruction of Israel. The only real questions on the table in this debate, however slyly and deceptively aired, will be how best to destroy Israel, whether Sunnis or Shi'ites should take the lead in this destruction, and whether Ibish or Aslan will be able to retail more veiled Nazi-like Jew-hatred.

Corruption of Academia Update from UCLA Happenings:

Tuesday, May 15, 2012
7:00 pm - 9:00 pm, Humanities Building - Room 169

One State vs Two State solution

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Hussein Ibish and Reza Aslan are the speakers. This event will be a one-state vs two-state debate concerning the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

One thing you can be sure of: Ibish and Aslan, although the positions they will be advocating will be tantamount to calling for the destruction of Israel and a new genocide of the Jews, will be accorded a polite and respectful reception at UCLA. The brownshirts who disrupted our event at Temple University on April 23, when we were standing for the freedom of speech, the freedom of conscience, and equality of rights for all people, will be nowhere in evidence.

Ibish, says Daniel Pipes, "apologizes for many groups the U.S. government deems terrorist, starting with Osama bin Laden. 'I'm skeptical,' was his reaction after a federal grand jury indicted bin Laden for bombing two U.S. embassies in East Africa. Ibish dismisses bin Laden as a blowhard who gives 'blood-curdling interviews,' a guy who 'lives in a cave in Afghanistan' and someone seen by Arabs as 'a crank and a dangerous fanatic.' The list of apologetics goes on. President Bush calls Hamas 'one of the deadliest terrorist organizations in the world today' but our lobbyist friend touts its accomplishments 'running hospitals and schools and orphanages.'"

The clownish boy Aslan, for his part, is an apologist for Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and the Islamic Republic. He has tried to pass off Iran's genocidally-minded Ahmadinejad as a liberal reformer. He has called on the U.S. Government to negotiate with Ahmadinejad himself, who has repeatedly crowed about the imminent demise of the "Zionist regime," as well as with the genocidally antisemitic jihad group Hamas.

Aslan is a Board member of the president of the George Soros-funded National Iranian American Council (NIAC), a powerful Iranian lobbying group in Washington, and a foremost enemy of Israel and purveyor of Palestinian jihadist propaganda. Arash Irandoost of the Pro-Democracy Movement of Iran calls NIAC chief Trita Parsi "an intellectually dishonest regime apologist and an unofficial and unregistered lobbyist for the Iranian regime." According to Irandoost, "Trita Parsi contributes to the regime's agenda and serves the interests of those in power in the Islamic Republic of Iran, not the Iranians, nor the Iranian-Americans."

And the Progressive American-Iranian Committee says that when NIAC received funding for various projects from the National Endowment for Democracy (NED), "NIAC's projects were approved and welcomed by the Iranian regime." NIAC coordinated its work inside Iran with Hamyaran, a "government initiated agency incepted [sic], initiated, founded and managed by the Iranian regime." NIAC even lobbied the U.S. Congress to "stop appropriating funds for independent democratic movements and NGOs that were not under Hamyaran or regime's control."

Aslan has even praised the viciously and murderously Jew-hating jihad terror group Hizballah as "the most dynamic political and social organization in Lebanon," as well as the Jew-hating, women-hating, kuffar-hating Muslim Brotherhood, which is dedicated in its own words to "eliminating and destroying Western civilization from within." Aslan wrote: "The Muslim Brotherhood will have a significant role to play in post-Mubarak Egypt. And that is good thing." Now that the new parliament in Egypt has declared Israel its "number one enemy," we see what Reza Aslan has been applauding, and aiding and abetting with his numerous anti-Israel screeds.

It is a telling indication of how corrupt and politicized academia in the U.S. has become that these two Jew-hating apologists for terror are given a platform at a major American university.

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Youssef


Since I have yet to see just 1 Original quran with the real "Context" for verses , I find that all these
muslim-2-muslim/arab debates are either inane or a charade to appear like Moderates when it juts the same-old taqqiyah , blah blah blah blah ....... .

Since I have the 16% of the World's 7 billion Population
to show me how islam is Practised, that's enough for me to see real-time examples of how the follower accept , and condone by their silence, the average doctrine and tenets.

Thus, the Homophobic/Misogynistic/Pedophilia sanctioning has been uncontested or denounced by the likes of CAIR canada and actually endorsed to bring Shariah law to canada so pedophilia is legalized for muslim males.
You can put lipstick on muhammad all you want, he's still a pedophile/homophobe/wife-beater.

I recently attempted a quick study of Wikipedia in order to determine the extent of its bias. I searched anti-Jihadi personalities like Spencer, Geller and Ye'or...and found large sections entitled "criticisms" and "controversies". A similar search of Aslan, Armstrong and Esposito found only biographical details...with no criticism whatsoever.

Vile.

Thesis: Israelis should be destroyed because they have, since the beginning of Islam, embarrassed Islam and Muslims. In the eyes of the world Jews are held in high esteem because of their many successes in the sciences and humanities, their stable societies, their intelligence, their honest dealings, and their admirable codes of morality, thereby providing an outstanding example to all societies for emulation. This cannot be tolerated (for some reason or another).

For the affirmative, Aslan, “We should develop 6 ways to beat Israel.”

Also for the affirmative, Ibish, “No no, you worthless piece of 5-day old Shiitte camel dung. We should develop a half dozen ways to beat Israel.”

2 islamists PC D..bags. that is all they are.
M

Somewhat In Topic: The Iranian flag explained. Great fun.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJfDBPj7uE4&feature=g-all-f

Warning: stay off if you are a commie, a muzzie or break out in a rash in the presence of pictures of naughty bits.

I woner if they are going to discuss the cache of porn he wan in possesion of.
M

That's a great find, Steffen. Absolutely hilarious.

LOL

Not WHETHER to get those bad old Jews...but HOW best to get those bad old Jews. A little like Bernadine Dohrn debating Ted Kacynski on which explosive works best in a satchel charge...

Another subject Sunnis and Shi'ites should be debating...seriously: The final destination of Muhammad's private parts!
http://crossmuslims.blogspot.com/2011/07/private-parts-of-muhammad.html

"The brownshirts who disrupted our event at Temple University ... will be nowhere in evidence."

I think you're mistaken. The brownshirts will be there all right: They're the ones presenting the "debate", and they'll make up most of the audience. And they'll be applauding, not disrupting.

Will someone please explain to me why this nut Soros always has to have a grubby finger in every pie? Shouldn't he just feel happy spending his billions in his old age? Just what kind of legacy is he after? What is his cause - his motivation? Has he taken a hedging position in world collapse?

Bin Laden apologist (Hussein Ibish) to debate Ahmadinejad apologist (Reza Aslan) on Israel at UCLA
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Well—*that* outta be "balanced"...sarc/off

More:

In light of the jihad doctrine and the stated goals of jihad groups like Hamas, there is no difference between a one-state solution and a two-state solution. A two-state solution only includes an additional step, but in either case the ultimate goal is the same: the destruction of Israel.
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Yup. Both Osama bin Laden and Ahmadinejad seek (sought, in bin Ladens' case—but only because he is dead)—the destruction of Israel. The only slight differences lie in jockeying for influence in the region—their end goals are *identical*.

Will UCLA students be shouting this pair down, as they do with those who *oppose* Jihad? I wouldn't count on it...

Here's Ibish arguing against Muslims ever recognizing Israel:

http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2011/05/25/should_the_palestinians_recognize_israel_as_a_jewish_state?page=full

He tries to put a plausibly civilized spin on it, but fails.

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