Muslim cleric misunderstands Islam, says female education is "un-Islamic"

He says he has plenty of authorities to back him up. And once again those who differ will not bother to offer any of their own to refute him. Now, why is that? "Curtailing ‘immodesty’: Ex-lawmaker ‘decrees’ against female education," by Muhammad Sadaqat for the Express Tribune, May 6 (thanks to David):

A former lawmaker and cleric from Kohistan district, Maulana Abdul Haleem, termed formal education for women un-Islamic and asked parents to pluck their daughters from school, or else they would be ‘doomed’.

The nonagenarian, who was elected to the National Assembly from Kohistan on the now-defunct Muttahida Majlis-e-Amal’s ticket in 2002, also railed against non-governmental organisations (NGOs) working in the region in his Friday sermon, calling them ‘hubs of immodesty’.

Nestled in the Himalayas, the Kohistan district is picturesque, but also one of the least-literate and least developed in the country.

Fiery sermon

Maulana Haleem, who was an office-bearer of the Jamiat Ulema-e-Islam-Fazl until recently, was delivering a Friday sermon, at Jamia Masjid Komila, on who is dayoos, or those liable to be condemned to hell.

“It’s beghairti (immodesty) to equip girls with secular education,” the cleric said, adding that those Kohistani parents who were sending their girls to schools were acting against ‘Islamic shariah’ and the local customs.

“The Kohistani culture does not allow parents to send their pardadar (modest) girls to schools,” the former lawmaker said.

He did not spare female NGO workers either.

“Some women from these NGOs visit our houses frequently, mobilising naïve Kohistani women to follow their agenda in the name of health and hygiene education,” he said, adding that this was ‘unacceptable to Kohistani culture’. He threatened them with ‘dire consequences’, saying that married female NGO workers will be sent back to their husbands, and the unmarried ones will be wedded to Kohistani men.

During his stint as a parliamentarian, Maulana Haleem had also declared poppy cultivation in Kohistan ‘in accordance with Islam’.

Keeping women at home

When approached for comments, the cleric stood by the contents of his sermon, and insisted that several Hadith books prohibit girls from receiving degrees and certificates in ‘secular education’.

He did not actually quote any reference though. Asked to explain how parents would be doomed for their daughters’ education, the cleric said that formal education paves the way for girls to enter the job market. “When they permit their women to work, they give them a free hand to mix with na-mehrum (men they are not related to by blood) – by doing so, the girl’s father, brother or husband become dayoos in the eye of the shariah,” he said.

Such people will never enter Paradise, he added.

The only responsibility men owe to women is their sustenance, and not education, he said. In return, the women should stay at home and look after their children and family members, he added.

Asked if Islamic states like Saudi Arabia and Iran were violating shariah by spending billions on women’s education, Maulana Haleem termed their steps un-Islamic....

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The way the above article and the introduction was written, it took me a few seconds to guess which country this was about. My guess was Afghanistan or Pakistan, until I saw the reference to 'Muttahida Majlis-e-Amal', which in 2000 was the Taliban's political subsidiary in Pakistan.

The last para - Saudi Arabia spends billions on women's education? That must be something the interviewer made up on his own - in Saudi Arabia, female literacy rates, as per Wiki, is something b/w 70-80%, far lower than that of men, and also, in the Saudi context, education is mainly about people knowing the quran, sunnah and other islamic teachings. Functionally, a woman who's only going to learn the quran and sunnah is better off w/ no education whatsoever - on that aspect, I agree w/ the mullah.

As for Iran, it's a Shia state, so how does anybody expect a Taliban chief to endorse what they are doing?


In 1989 canada had a mass-slaughter of 14 female students at a school in Quebec by a Gamil Gharabi who was the sonm of a algerian muslim that practised the strict Shariah and beat his wife and son.
While the suicide note confirmed gamil murdered these girtls for allah, the femiNazis like Naomi Klein and Susan Cole were bent on making it a male-violence issue and blamed 49% of the population for what a lone muslim nutbar did for allah.

CAIR-canada hijacked this slaughter as Domestic-violence to also pair it to the Shafia shariah murders as a whitewash to protect islamic misogyny.

islam is about to die a sudden death from the media exposure as a death-cult that gave NOTHING to humanity.

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There is no place for Islam in the modern world. Their views on women and education is 7th century. However, in places where women are allowed to vote they have said yes to Sharia law. Go figure. I do hope those of you who believe that Islam is a dying religion are right. I however do not see that happening.

Well, women are too stupid to learn anything anyway...According to Tabari, Allah created women stupid on purpose because of what Eve did in the Garden...Trying to educate them is going against Allah...The only thing they need to learn is how to cook, clean, take care of her eight or nine children, and be subject to the hubbies every whim...What's so hard to understand about that?

Algeria’s parties prepared their final rallies ahead of the May 10 legislative polls Sunday, after the Arab Spring sweeping the region failed to bring new faces to the campaign and spark the electorate.

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@ala sux,

CAIR Canada didn't exist in 1989, and it's hard to imagine that they termed the shooting of 14 women at the Ecole Polytechnique as "domestic violence" when it happened at a college. I do agree that the muslim connection wasn't mentioned in 1989, but then, how many Canadians knew anything about the misogyny in islam in those days?

As for your assertion that "islam is about to die a sudden death from the media exposure as a death-cult that gave NOTHING to humanity", that's wishful thinking.


I'm missing something essential here with your, "islam is about to die a sudden death from the media exposure as a death-cult that gave NOTHING to humanity."

I don't see how "media exposure" about anything concerning Islam as a death cult will cause its sudden death; although I agree completely that Islam certainly hasn't given anything at all to humanity.

Is it me, or would that sentence be clearer if you inserted "not" about to die as a death cult, as media exposure of Islam is certainly pretty bland, and it by itself isn't going to kill Islam....would that were true.

Which "media" do you gave in mind? It's mainly right here at "Jihad Watch" that Islam is exposed for what it really is.

That is why we have to know Muslim history,to know the truth.Read:

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Although I clearly recall the shooting of 14 innocent young women at Ecole Polytechnique in Quebec, it wasn’t until a few months ago that I learned Marc Lepine’s birth name was Gamil Gharabi. His killing spree subsequently cost Canadian taxpayers over one billion dollars when the Liberal government of the day decided to create a Gun Registry to prevent the abuse of firearms. The registry proved impossible to administer, was unpopular with long gun owners, and was recently quashed by Stephen Harper’s Conservative government.

The point is that the Gharabi incident is an example of the malice inherent in Islam that costs freedom loving countries lives and dollars. America paid a very high price in 2001 when it was attacked by jihadists flying airplanes. If the cost of all the atrocities committed in the name of Islam in the last century and the beginning of this century were added up, it would be a staggering sum in lost lives and wasted money. Why do we allow and, in some cases, encourage Islamofascists to live within our democratic countries? Why did I not know that Marc Lepine was the son of an Islamic fundamentalist until 22 years after the fact? Is the MSM complicit with the leaders of the 130 million Islamists calculated to be alive today?

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I'll answer two points and be brief .

ImNoDhimmi: last year on December 6th to mark the anniversary of the 1989 slaughter and the neo slaughter of the Shafia girls, it was CAIR that boasted of the Friday prayers devoted to ending Domestic Violence . My point was that they Hijacked the 1989 event tpo pair it to the shafia murders.

Charles Griffith: The modern video phones and real-time news by citizens is giving us the truth about the barbarism and savagary by ME msulims and their death-cult. This dirty secret was kept hidden by taqqiyah and colsed societies as we in the west got a canted view of islam and muhammad.
But , the near 16% of the Earth populations seems to have reached its peak and will implode under its own weight to slaughter each other for allah and cull the herd of females. So far, there are still fewer muslims in the USA than the people that think Elvis is still alive and this is hardly a threat.

I don't see a slow-death because the muslims under the threat of Apostasy will convert form this death-cult in mass once they know it is safe. With almost 20'000 Terrorism acts since 9/11 by muslims to mostly other muslims is proof for the quasi-pyramid scheme of death to run out of muslim victims and the Jihadist-based consumes the 1.2 billion victims.

Muslim converts in the USA can not deny the video proof and evidence for Sanctioned pedophilia in iran, gaza, and Saudi Arabia , or the homophobia on youtube videos from Iran where 6000 homosexuals were hung in one year alone.

Islam is like having the Chrysler building balanced on the head of a pin with just one corner-stone carrying the load, and thus.....as soon as the center point for gravity skews off the zenith it will collapse in a sudden implosion.
islam was built on a LIE and kept erect by more LIES , then it kills those that question the LIES or those that leave islam when they see the obvious truth.


The United Church in canada had seen a slow death over the last 10 years as they embrace any cause to be liked, one Minister even said that Jesus was not the Messiah and that jesus approves same-gender marriage and abortion or smoking dope.

Ala Sux, I have been hounding you for at least 6 months on the nonsense you have been spreading about the murders of the 14 women at École Polytechnique de Montréal. Hopefully I can finally get you to respond.

Your comment While the suicide note confirmed gamil murdered these girtls for allah, the femiNazis like Naomi Klein and Susan Cole were bent on making it a male-violence issue and blamed 49% of the population for what a lone muslim nutbar did for allah. is an out and out lie and shows you why I have been asking you to support your statements with evidence. In all the time I've caught you telling Jihad Watchers your stories you have yet to provide even 1 valid reference.

Here is the English text of Marc Lépine's suicide note people:

Forgive the mistakes, I had 15 minutes to write this. See also Annex.

Would you note that if I commit suicide today 89-12-06 it is not for economic reasons (for I have waited until I exhausted all my financial means, even refusing jobs) but for political reasons. Because I have decided to send the feminists, who have always ruined my life, to their Maker. For seven years life has brought me no joy and being totally blasé, I have decided to put an end to those viragos. I tried in my youth to enter the Forces as an officer cadet, which would have allowed me possibly to get into the arsenal and precede Lortie in a raid. They refused me because antisocial (sic). I therefore had to wait until this day to execute my plans. In between, I continued my studies in a haphazard way for they never really interested me, knowing in advance my fate. Which did not prevent me from obtaining very good marks despite my theory of not handing in work and the lack of studying before exams. Even if the Mad Killer epithet will be attributed to me by the media, I consider myself a rational erudite that only the arrival of the Grim Reaper has forced to take extreme acts. For why persevere to exist if it is only to please the government. Being rather backward-looking by nature (except for science), the feminists have always enraged me. They want to keep the advantages of women (e.g. cheaper insurance, extended maternity leave preceded by a preventative leave, etc.) while seizing for themselves those of men. Thus it is an obvious truth that if the Olympic Games removed the Men-Women distinction, there would be Women only in the graceful events. So the feminists are not fighting to remove that barrier. They are so opportunistic they [do not][72] neglect to profit from the knowledge accumulated by men through the ages. They always try to misrepresent them every time they can. Thus, the other day, I heard they were honoring the Canadian men and women who fought at the frontline during the world wars. How can you explain [that since][73] women were not authorized to go to the frontline??? Will we hear of Caesar's female legions and female galley slaves who of course took up 50% of the ranks of history, though they never existed. A real Casus Belli. Sorry for this too brief letter. Marc Lépine

So, Jihad Watchers, that is how Marc Lépine 'validated' mass murder. As you can see, contrary to what ala sux said, it does NOT confirmed gamil murdered these girtls (sic) for allah. In fact there isn't one sentence that parallels a typical Muslim suicide note. Not only is Allah not mentioned, the Qur'an is not mentioned, the plight of the Palestinians is not mentioned, and no suras or hadiths are mentioned or even alluded to.

It is obvious that Naomi Klein and Susan Cole had pretty good reason to interpret the massacre as a male-violence event. They were wrong in my estimation because most psychiatrists who did post mortem analysis of Lépines actions concluded he probably was insane. The rambling and disconnected suicide note above would probably support that assessment.

I will deal with ala sux's erroneous assertions about Lépine being a jihadist in the next post but it might be worth while to see the interview conducted by 100 Huntley Street with Lépine's mother. You will see from it that Islam as a possible source of the violence is non-existent.

Part 1:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnyT4rXwbAc

Part 2:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=5s4MAG-jOfc

Stay tuned for more in the second comment. This will call out just about everything ala sux has claimed about this sad chapter of Canadian history.

Hi Ala Sux, this is the second part of my query into your consistent misrepresentations of the Ecole Polytechnique de Montreal Massacres. They are utter nonsense.

Before I start I will retract a mistake in made in part 1. I meant to say 'for at least 1 month' but I just noticed I typed 'for at least 6 months. That was a typo. I guess I shouldn't be commenting at 4:00 in the morning Toronto time.

Below is my last post to you on Lépine.

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Hi ala sux. You said "The dirty little secret for Muslims in canada is the mass-slaughtering of 14 female students in Montreal by an Jihad drive muslim named Gamil Gharabi in 1989.
Canada's first real Honour killing to protect and defend Allah love and peace so females stay at home and have babies ad muslim men het the jobs to pump out more Jihad-Joe's for allah's cause.
Yes folks , canada imported an Algerian Misogynistic/homophobic/pedophilie-friendly pro-Shariah Muslim that married a candian to stay in the Country and then handed down this barbaric 7th century death-cult to Gamil , the loving son .
"

Wrong. In fact, in the next universe wrong. I called you out on this one at the following link on March 29, 2012

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2012/03/pamela-geller-jew-killing-jihadist-now-a-hero.html

I will repeat what I said in that post below; but first some supplemental information.

The following link is to the CBC news report that took place almost immediately after the incident. It will give everyone a pretty good feel of what transpired.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndkw0yK85z4

In my original post on your assertion I didn't provide any references to the story beyond the book written (co-authored) by Marc Lepine's mother. I found out afterwards there was a Wikipedia entry on this story. I just went over it and it seems to bear out what I said.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marc_L%C3%A9pine
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Hi ala sux.

Usually, I enjoy your posts but not this one. You have wrongly interpreted this story for jihad watchers several times over the years. I have always let it pass but I think it is time to comment on your theory.

First, you say 'a young Muslim male' went on a rampage.

He was not a young muslim male. His father was a NON PRACTICING Muslim who married a Montreal nurse Monique Lépine who at one time was a nun.


I presume, after the marriage, she still had Roman Catholic leanings because she had her son baptized. I think a real Muslim father (even a stealth jihadist) would draw the line in the sand about that action and the baptism never would have happened. [The father had a history of brutality against his wife and their son so it is safe to assume he would have had no problem putting a stop to having a Christian sacrament being practiced on his 'Muslim' son].

So, if anything, the monster-in-the-making was a Catholic not a Muslim.

His birth name was Gamil Rodrigue Liass Gharbi. He later changed it to Marc Lépine and not for the reason you claim (so he could hide the fact that he was Muslim). He changed it because he loathed his abusive father and because he was being taunted for being an Arab by his school mates.

Monique Lépine has made it clear that:
1) Marc never received any religious education when young
2) Marc was a confirmed atheist all his life

As I recall, all of the above can be confirmed by reference to "Aftermath" a book that was co-authored by Marc Lépine's mother.

It is probably as honest a portrayal of who this guy was as we are ever going to get. As one reviewer of the book stated:


"This is a very interesting book which does shed a lot of life on the whole tragedy. It answers a lot of questions that we may have about the life of Marc Lepine and his early life. The author does not take an "oh, my poor son" view but is very honest. The one downfall of this read is that it is a very poorly written book from an academic perspective."


I live in Toronto Canada and remember the story fairly well. This massacre took place at a time when political correctness had not put its umbrella over jihadis or run of the mill Muslims.

At that time, the press would have had a feeding frenzy if it could have been shown that Canada was dealing with a jihadi.

Now, I am fully willing to retract some or all of the above if you can show me wrong. Some ways of doing that would include:

1) evidence that Lépine frequented a Montreal mosque; or
2) evidence that he had terrorist connections; or
3) evidence that he mingled with the Muslim community; or
4) evidence that he quoted the Qur'an to anyone; or
5) evidence that he even once yelled Allahu Akbar while murdering his victims; or
6) evidence that he left any pre-written notes, tapes, or video tapes justifying his actions citing the Qur'an; or
7) evidence that he even read the Qur'an or;
8) evidence that a jihad spokesman anywhere made public statements supporting his action or posthumously recognized him as a martyr for Islam or;
9) evidence that he had spoken the shahada (in English, French or Arabic); or
10)taken the Hajj or expressed an interest in taking the Hajj.

I think you will be hard pressed to do so and the reason is quite clear. This guy was not a Muslim, he was an atheist, and his actions were the result of a mental disorder unrelated to things Islamic.

I will agree with you on one point however. The Liberal Left, especially the feminist wing of that group, have spun the story to fit their socio-political objectives. I would prefer that we at jihad watch NOT do the same.


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I have some further thoughts since I posted the above; such as, where did you get information that indicated that Lépine's father "was Misogynistic/homophobic/pedophilie-friendly pro-Shariah Muslim" There is no evidence I can find that he was any of this. He was a non-practicing Muslim. That came out during the original police investigation.

Marc Lépine's mother never described Marc's father as anything approximating your depiction. Not back in 1989 and not in her book and not in her more recent interviews. I have seen no evidence that anyone else talked to the press back in 1989 to suggest that Marc's father was anything approximating your depiction.

It was obvious that Marc's father was brutal but that is not evidence of misogyny. He was brutal with Marc as well.

What Mosques did Marc's father attend in Montreal or outside of Canada? There doesn't seem to be any evidence he attended any. He's a strange die-hard Muslim. He get's into Canada but leaves rather than helping with the stealth Jihad movement. This doesn't sound right to me.

Also, when Marc's father left Canada what imam did he ask to look in on his son to see that he was being properly trained in Islam? I think the answer is he didn't ask anyone.

How come a pro-Sharia, misogynistic father didn't take his son with him when he left the wife? Isn't that the usual pattern?

What evidence do you have that Marc was even trained in Jihad? Also, how can it be Jihad when Marc killed himself while there were still others around him he could kill? There are suicide jihadis but as far as I know they don't blow themselves away when their job is half done. Are not the suicide terrorists the ones who use bombs so they have no choice but suicide whereas those who use guns just keep taking lives as long as they can?

There are far too many loose ends in your theory for it to be taken seriously.

As far as I can see, you assumed because Lépine's father was from Algeria that he had to be a practicing Muslim and you were entitled to take poetic license based on that one fact.

Your "loving son" portrayal is certainly out of place. Lépine hated his father and as Lépine's mother stated in the interview to which I provided the links in part 1 above, Marc changed his name because he hated his father. He asked this of his mother as his 14th birthday present.

I did find one article that may support your ideas and that comes from Phyliss Chesler here: http://archive.frontpagemag.com/readArticle.aspx?ARTID=3308

The article makes one assumption in order to come to its conclusion about Marc and that is his father was a practicing Muslim. That as I've said many times is just not the case. Chesler also seems to be unaware of Lépine's baptism which would also throw a monkey wrench into her theory. Actually, she doesn't seem to know very much about Marc Lépine or his father. She also doesn't seem to have read the post mortem psychological evaluations from 1989. Chesler's article is problematic at best.

So, I have to come back to you ala sux and say state your evidence for your claims. If your entire theory is based on Lépine's father being a practicing Muslim then your theory is completely bogus. Even if Lépine's father was a practicing Muslim, that is not enough to support your claims about the massacre. You have to create the dots before you can connect them.

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