France: Muslims stone Christians in church during Mass

No one will take much note of this. It is just one story among the thousands that together tell the tale of France’s decline and Islamization. Eurabia Update: Here is my translation of “Carcassonne Des fidèles caillassés pendant la messe à Saint-Joseph,” by Yannick Bonnefoy in Midi Libre, May 27 (thanks to David):

Carcassonne: The faithful stoned during Mass at St. Joseph

Yesterday at 6:20PM, as Fr. Roger Barthes began to celebrate mass, four youths, aged 14 to 18, broke into the Church of St. Joseph, before launching handfuls of pebbles at 150 faithful present at the service. Immediately, men began pursuing the young troublemakers, but in vain. They managed to vanish into thin air, heading towards the city La Conte.

Interrupted by regrettable unexpected event, Mass was finally able to proceed as planned. Although no one was injured and nothing was broken in the church, located along the Avenue Jean Moulin, the parishioners, many of whom are elderly, were greatly shocked by the disrespectful act of the youths of North African origin….

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  1. says

    The average age of church goers in France is easily north of 60, so these cowards risked little with this outrage. The question is, how will they escalate this next time, since this one went so well??

    BTW – Jean Moulin was a hero of the resistance who was tortured to death by Klaus Barbie’s Nazi thugs in Lyon. Many streets are named for him.

    France needs another Jean Moulin (and Charlemagne)…

  2. says

    France: Muslims stone Christians in church during mass
    ………………………….

    And so it begins. Muslims stone Jews worshipping at the Western Wall, and now they have taken this to the West.

    More:

    Carcassonne: The faithful stoned during Mass at St. Joseph

    Yesterday at 6:20PM, as Fr. Roger Barthes began to celebrate mass, four youths, aged 14 to 18, broke into the Church of St. Joseph, before launching handfuls of pebbles at 150 faithful present at the service. Immediately, men began pursuing the young troublemakers, but in vain. They managed to vanish into thin air, heading towards the city La Conte.
    ………………………….

    At least these Frenchmen acted to defend themselves and their parishioners.

    More:

    Interrupted by regrettable unexpected event, Mass was finally able to proceed as planned. Although no one was injured and nothing was broken in the church, located along the Avenue Jean Moulin, the parishioners, many of whom are elderly, were greatly shocked by the disrespectful act of the youths of North African origin….
    ………………………….

    “North African origin””read, “Muslim”.

    Carcassonne has been under Muslim conquest before. In 725, the Wali Ambisa took the city following the Islamic conquest of the Visigoth kingdom of Spain. The city remained in the hands of Muslims until 752, when it was freed by the Franks led by Pippin the Short.

  3. says

    During this time of global jihad similar events are happening all over the world, but still people are shocked that it could happen to them. Is it that people are too selfish to care that it is happening to other people?

  4. says

    . .for those who have not had the privilege of visiting Carcassone, it is a walled city deep in the south west France. It was assailed by many wannabe invaders, and one occasion, when the residents ran out of arrows, they boiled up jam (confiture) , and poured it down through the slits in the main keep onto the invaders who were pressing over the drawbridge.

  5. says

    ‘Regrettable, unexpected event’? How about despicable or contemptible event? Or is French devoid of their equivalents? I wonder whether people in France will fail to read ‘North African’ as Arab Muslim, which is what it is?

  6. says

    I have no idea how common this is in Europe.

    One church in a mainly Muslim area that I know of in Denmark had to employ Muslim security guards: eg vandalism inside and outside (church-goers’ cars), five windows blasted by fireworks during services on Christmas Eve, the (female) vicar beaten up inside the church, a bomb threat before a Royal visit, services “often interrupted” by gangs of “youths”.
    Another vicar was chased off his vicarage by vandalism.

  7. says

    I would encourage every parishioner to start bringing his or her dog to church, every time. Each dog to sit on the floor next to their owner. To be sicced onto the Mohammedans if they try it on again.

  8. says

    There is a final paragraph in the original French newspaper:

    “This affair is strangely reminiscent of the stoning of which the victims were the parishioners of Saint-Jacques, in the Viguier quarter, 2nd November 2010. On that day, a statue of the Virgin was lightly damaged. One remembers equally that a reconciliation Mass had been celebrated by Monsignor Planet, Bishop of Carcassonne and Narbonne, a few days afterwards, in the presence of the Imam of Viguier, Mohamed Hanou… ”

    Looks like the Imam’s example of “conciliation” didn’t filter down to all his co-religionists!

  9. says

    Yearning for the flourishing days of the Ottoman Empire, thousands of Turkish Muslims prayed outside Aya Sofya Mosque on Saturday, May 26, in protest at a law that bars religious services at the historic monument.

    A church for over 1,000 years, and a mosque for 500 more, Aya Sophia is the most spectacular building in Istanbul.

    Read more: http://www.maghrebchristians.com/2012/05/28/turks-ask-for-aya-sofya-to-be-turned-into-a-mosque/#ixzz1w9RtiRiy

    Youssef

  10. says

    Shades of 1930s Germany. Be in no doubt – islam inspired Hitler and the Nazi party (NSDAP) – islam invented Naziism – and carries on relentlessly, toward the same goals – world domination and genocide – it is not Nationalists and Patriots that are the extreme right wing Nazis – it is islam and its muslims – wake from your slumbers, Europe, you are sleepwalking us to anihilation

  11. says

    There has been a similar incident in 2010:

    Carcassonne: Catholics stoned during mass in the heart of France

    Sixty parishioners who attended a memorial service for the departed (All Souls’ Day) on Tuesday afternoon in a church in a ghetto neighborhood of Carcassonne, were the victims of two teenagers who, after entering the building, started throwing stones. One person was hit, and the status of the Virgin Mary, targeted by the two, was badly damaged.

    http://sheikyermami.com/2010/11/05/french-catholics-attack-mosque-stone-muslims/

  12. says

    Britts have “asians” and French have “north africans” aka muslim slime~ good luck

  13. says

    Good kuffar are those who tolerate Mahoundian behavior that they wouldn’t have had to tolerate, had they not let these people in to begin with…The experts on diversity and multiculturalism screwed up big time…

  14. says

    The BBC have been advertising an upcoming show championing how Marseille is poised to become the first muslim dominated western city, BBC quite happy about it of course. They even trotted out a muslim saying how he has Christian friends, Jewish friends… the taqiyya was really flowing, made me sick. Anybody that thinks things will turn out good in Marseille is kidding themselves.

    David in Australia

  15. says

    “…the parishioners, many of whom are elderly, were greatly shocked by the disrespectful act of the youths of North African origin….”

    Don’t be surprised if the journalists reporting this article are charged with a hate crime in France for identifying the ethnic (and by inference, the religious) origins of the perpetrators. This is what Europe has come to.

  16. says

    As part of the hajj to Mecca, Muslims ritually throw pebbles at a stone that represents the devil.

    Europe needs to wake up and start saving itself from the totalitarianism that Bernard Lewis called “essential” to Islamic society, tradition, and thought.

    ———————————–

    On page 547 (814 in the Arabic) of the earliest Muslim biography of Muhammad, Muhammad permits a threat of beheading to force a conversion to Islam:

    He [Muhammad] said: “Woe to you Abu Sufyan, isn’t it time that you recognize that I am God’s apostle?” He [Sufyan] answered, “As to that I still have some doubt.” I [Ibn Abbas] said to him [Sufyan], “Submit and testify that there is no God but Allah and that Muhammad is the apostle of God before you lose your head,” so he [Sufyan] did so.

    Quoting Islam

  17. says

    I once visited the ancient fort city of Carcasson in 95, it is beautiful. I say you all should visit it before it gets knocked down and turned into a mega mosque. BTW they make THE BEST cassolay there. Better hurry before it becomes cous cous……

  18. says

    “…launching handfuls of pebbles at 150 faithful present at the service. Immediately, men began pursuing the young troublemakers, but in vain.”

    Probably not in vain from the viewpoint of the “youths of North African origin.” Surely these youths were not acting in isolation. What could be seen as a harmless act of vandalism on the part of youths is probably the beginning stage of a long range plan and program of conquest and annihilation.

  19. says

    It seems to me that France is pretty much done.

    But if there is anything to be done about this sort of thing — other than abject groveling — it is to exert grossly disproportionate force.

    A handful of teens throwing stones? OK. A dozen grown men with shotguns and live ammo should fire back.

    Only if the response is shockingly disproportionate will it have even the slightest effect. The key word there is shocking. No shock, no result.

    Not that I think the French have it in them.

    ==========

    A number of commentors picked up on the use of the word “shocking” in the article above. Suffice it to say that the jihaddists are well aware of the value of shocking the enemy.

    If there is a constant through line to the “terrorist” strategy, it is achieving the maximum shock at the lowest cost to themselves.

    Consider the “suicide bomber”. For the price of a single life, they multiply the shock value of a bombing by a very large factor.

    Bombing? Scary. Bombing by somebody willing to die in order to get close to helpless innocents? Absolutely shocking!

    Badabing. The bad guys win.

    ==========

    The strategies of proportional force and containment have produced nothing other than a gradual escalation by the jihaddists.

    True the escalation is a bit slow, but it is perfectly real and will end in the same overwhelming force, the same overwheming victory for the jihadists.

    A basic change of strategy is required to produce a retreat.

    I’m no military planner. But I can read as well as the next guy. And I can even perceive the obvious.

    The jihaddists do not retreat unless the cost of aggression is beyond their ability and willingness to pay. And they have shown us that they are willing to pay a few of their own civilian lives from time to time. That’s not an excessive price for them.

    But I very much doubt that the west is willing to raise the price very much.

    And the other side knows.

    Probing incidents, like the one reported above, are a demonstration that they are bargain shopping.

    It seems that they like the current prices.

  20. says

    Reply to Mary | May 27, 2012 10:31 PM

    Mary, Mary, as long as it’s only happening to Jews or Israelis, they could live with that. So far, they seem to be able to live with it even when it’s happening to them. It will all blow up eventually, literally and figuratively.

  21. says

    A friend who is always droning on about all the “secular” Muslims who want no part of radical Islam, on being told by me of this France incident, asked where it was. Her reaction was that it appeared to be a small town and therefore the incident hardly mattered. If I told her it was the Catholic Cathedral in her city, she would no doubt say she was glad she didn’t go to church any more. The denial some people are in is absolutely staggering.

  22. says

    For Fr Roger Barthes and the parishioners of the Church of St Joseph.

    Chante a Sainte Jeanne d’Arc

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=CO&hl=es-419&v=wb7zokdXbnY

    Words by Sainte Thérèse de Lisieux (the sweet and gentle St Therese of the Little Flower); music by Vincent Lecornier

    French text:

    Jeanne, Seigneur, est ton oeuvre splendide


    Un cœur de feu, une âme de guerrier


    Tu les donnas à la Vierge timide


    Que tu voulais couronner de laurier.




    Refrain


    Sainte Jeanne de France

    
Notre espérance repose en vous


    Sainte Jeanne de France


    Priez, priez pour nous.




    Jeanne entendit dans son humble prairie


    Des voix du Ciel l’appeler au combat


    Elle partit pour sauver la patrie

    
La douce Enfant à l’armée commanda.




    Des fiers guerriers elle gagna les âmes


    L’éclat divin de l’Envoyée des Cieux


    Son pur regard, ses paroles de flammes


    Surent courber les fronts audacieux….




    Jeanne, c’est toi notre unique espérance

    Du haut des Cieux, daigne entendre nos voix


    Descends vers nous, viens convertir la France

    Viens la sauver une seconde fois.

    English translation:

    Lord, Joan is your splendid work, you gave a heart of fire, a warrior’s soul, to the timid Virgin, whom you crowned with laurel.

    Refrain:
    Saint Joan of France, our hopes rest on you, Saint Joan of France, pray, pray for us.

    In her humble meadow, Joan heard voices from Heaven calling her to combat. She left to save the fatherland, the gentle child commanded the army.

    Refrain:
    Saint Joan of France, our hopes rest on you, Saint Joan of France, pray, pray for us.

    The divine spark of the One sent by Heaven won the souls of the proud warriors, her pure regard, her inflamed words caused daring heads to bow.

    Refrain:
    Saint Joan of France, our hopes rest on you, Saint Joan of France, pray, pray for us.

    Joan, you are our only hope, from high in Heaven, deign to hear our voices, come down to us, come convert France, come save her a second time.

    Refrain:
    Saint Joan of France, our hopes rest on you, Saint Joan of France, pray, pray for us.”

    Catholics here present may feel inclined to sing along.

    I don’t think St Joan and her soldiers would have been very gentle with those Mohammedan thugs.

    A thought: in a report quoted above, describing a similar attack on another church, the Church of St Jacques in the Viguier quartier, that took place in 2010, there was mention of “Monsignor Planet, Bishop of Carcassonne and Narbonne”.

    Perhaps the good Monsignor should be sent some letters expressing condolences for the sufferings of his flock who are being persecuted, in their own home country, by the invading and occupying Mohammedans. Those here present who are Catholics are particularly encouraged to write: and when you do, assure these beleaguered French Christians of your prayers. It may even be possible to discover the home address of the affected churches: St Jacques in the Viguier, and St Joseph’s on the Avenue Jean Moulin. I think Fr Barthes of St Joseph’s and his parishioners might appreciate an encouraging letter or postcard. (Those among us who are Francophones – perhaps there are some French-speaking Canadians here present, for example – could write their letters in French).

    In the letters, speak plainly about the jihad doctrine of Islam, and about dhimmitude. The priests and parishioners in these churches, and the Bishop himself, may be in denial about what is really going on. Have a go at breaking through the denial.

    Those of us who are Christians need to mention these ‘incidents’ to our parish priest, minister or pastor. And say flatly: don’t think that these ‘incidents’ in France don’t matter. It can happen here and it *will* happen here, if the present situation – uncontrolled influx of Muslims into our societies – is allowed to continue. The moment Mohammedans where *we* are grow strong enough and feel strong enough to get away with it, they will start doing this – and worse – to churches (and for that matter, the places of worship of *any other* non-Muslim faiths) right *here*…in Australia, New Zealand, Canada, the USA, wherever.

    If we don’t want mobs of Muslim ‘youths’ barging into our parish churches throwing handfuls of rocks at families and little old ladies – and there will be much worse than that to come, down the track (burnings, lynchings, open murder of non-Muslims such as was done in the schoolyard of the Jewish school in Toulouse) then we *have* to put a stop to Muslim immigration into the as-yet-majority-kuffar countries; and large numbers of Muslims already present – all of whom are foreign to the countries where they are squatting – are going to have to be evicted, as well.

    A further thought. There *are* groups such as Riposte Laique who are trying to muster Resistance in France. Such groups might be well advised to start rallying protectively round the targets of ‘suburban jihad’ such as these two churches in the Carcassonne, St Jacques and St Joseph. Some sort of visible Infidel ‘show of strength – both physical and spiritual/ cultural – needs to start happening. I will pray that it does.

  23. says

    If this happens in a mosque be ready to read about it on page 1 locally and internationally in the New York Times, with Obama gently presenting universal apologies.
    Dhimmi conditioning, go to church, be afraid.
    I hope it inspires younger French people to go to Christian Services on Sunday…

  24. says

    Keep in mind that employment of Muslim security guards is a sort of jizya:

    Classical Muslim lexicographer Ragheb Isfahani writes about Jizya: “A tax that is levied on Dhimmis and it is so named because it is in return for the protection they are guaranteed.” (Mufradat al-Qur’an 1/204)

  25. says

    I agree.

    If security guards are needed, they should NOT be Muslims. Not when it’s a matter of guarding a church or other facility from Mohammedan attack. There must be native Danes – or *non-Muslim* immigrants to Denmark – who have or could acquire the necessary skills, and could use the pay.

  26. says

    Joseph wrote, replying to Steffen Larsen:

    Keep in mind that employment of Muslim security guards is a sort of jizya
    ………………………….

    You are absolutely right, Joseph.

    The price of being “protected” from Muslim aggression. This is *exactly* like the Mafia, which would extort “protection money” from honest shop owners”the “protection”, of course, being *from themselves*.

    And Steffen Larsen and Michael Morgan”and Sheikh Yer’Mami, who is probably also referring to the latter incident”Muslims attacking Christian worshippers in Europe is becoming increasingly common.

    And here’s an almost identical story from halfway around the world, as Christian worshippers are attacked in Indonesia:

    “Indonesian Muslims Throw Sewage, Rotten Eggs and Garbage at Christian Worshippers”

    Among the fundamentalist group there were not only men but also women and children. After the threats came blows. The crowd began to throw water, sewage, used oil, mud, rotten eggs, sticks and other blunt objects. A “brutal” attack aggravated by the presence of a swarm of “infiltrators” who has passed the cordon of officers and attacked the faithful of the Christian community the “from within”…

    Last Thursday Muslims tossed stones, frogs and bags of urine at the Christian worshippers during their Ascension service.

    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/05/indonesian-muslims-throw-sewage-rotten-eggs-and-garbage-at-christian-worshippers/

    These attacks in Indonesia involved huge mobs of Muslims. this is *exactly* what Islam wants for Europe, as well.

  27. says

    What France needs actually is a Joan of Arc to rally the French to oust the invaders. But first the French must concede that they have been invaded, that they let the invaders in, and that their penchant for socialism abetted in that invasion. It’s no accident that the Muslim bloc helped elect another looter to lead the country further on to its Islamization.

  28. says

    My sentiments exactly. Socialism and Islam go hand in hand. And now with Hollande at the helm France can expect more of these incidents, which will no doubt go unpunished. Welcome to Eurabia. When will decent citizens of Europe show these stupid politicians that we HAVE HAD ENOUGH?!?!?!

  29. says

    And, just as any non-Muslim Subcontinental in Britain resents “Asian” being used to describe Muslim vandalism, I’m sure that the Sefardim and Christians of Maghreb origin in France (the same folks who started new churches in Kabylia and underground in Morocco) resent “North African” being used to describe the same thing.

  30. says

    D, you might want to start using a more unique name. There has recently been a commenter on this site using “D” who described himself as a proud Muslim. A while further back, there was a commenter named “D” who was a neo-Nazi and was banned by Robert Spencer. Those two were probably different people, because the neo-Nazi also was anti-Muslim. So there are seemingly three “D”s. You might want to use a different name.

  31. says

    Isn’t this a classic example of the practice of their taqiyya?

    Some time ago I was much moved and favorably impressed by the Guest’s Sermon given from the pulpit of a local church, from a visiting Islamic imam in my Maryland town.

    I didn’t realize what an accomplished actor he was until I saw him later in the parking lot with his “civilian” face, very obviously impatient to get away in his suv with his entourage….probably on to another such “engagement”.

    I was ashamed of myself later.

  32. says

    something is wrong at that church that it would allow lies to be proclaimed from the place where truth should be proclaimed

    get out of that church

  33. says

    “Some time ago I was much moved and favorably impressed by the Guest’s Sermon given from the pulpit of a local church, from a visiting Islamic imam in my Maryland town.”

    Hi, Charles …

    The Chrislam movement is on the rise, especially within the U.S.; where Christian churches are allowing imams to come and speak at their churches about islam. This practice is outrageous and Christians should have no part in this since Light has no part with darkness. And if my pastor ever invited an imam to speak at our church on behalf of islam then I would immediately walk out and never go back and never even LOOK back even though my husband and I have been going there for over 10 years now. That said, I would be very surprised if my pastor ever did that since he’s very aware of how evil islam is and has said so over the pulpit. Anyway, like boakia suggested, I would find another church, dear friend.

    “Do not be yoked together with unbelievers. For what do righteousness and wickedness have in common? Or what fellowship can light have with darkness?” — 2 Corinthians 6:14