Jihad mass murderers' favorite news sources: CBS, Keith Olbermann, Robert Fisk

For years here we have pointed out how the mainstream media again and again serves up Islamic supremacist talking points packaged as news. And the Islamic supremacists have noticed, as we can see from this piece in the Guardian, which must itself have been held in high regard by Osama bin Laden. "Al-Qaida memo to Bin Laden warns of 'cunning methods' of US news networks," by Chris McGreal in the Guardian, May 3 (thanks to Mick):

Osama bin Laden pondered the merits of US television news channels as he considered how to extract the best propaganda benefit from the tenth anniversary of 9/11 last year, and concluded that CBS was "close to being unbiased".

But an American-born media adviser for al-Qaeda warned Bin Laden to beware of the broadcasters' "cunning methods" as he described Fox News as a channel in the "abyss" that should "die in anger", CNN as too close to the US government and MSNBC as questionable after it fired one of its most prominent presenters, Keith Olbermann.

In a memorandum made public by the US military's Combating Terrorism Center on Thursday, Bin Laden asked for advice on exploiting the anniversary of the 9/11 attacks.

"We need to benefit from this event and get our messages to the Muslims and celebrate the victory that they achieved. We need to restore their confidence in their nation and motivate them. We should also present our just cause to the world, especially to the European people," he said.

Bin Laden suggested contacting Al-Jazeera.

"You can point out to them that this way they will be showing the other opinion," he said.

But he also wondered if it would be good to work with an American channel, suggesting CBS as "close to being unbiased". Bin Laden added that the organisation should approach a British journalist, Robert Fisk of the Independent, and other reporters to press home the message that the major powers would be better concentrating on climate change than pursuing al-Qaida. He wrote:

"This is a chance to explain our motives for continuing the war. The wise people would tell you to give people their rights in order to be able to focus on other vital issues such as global warming. They have the option to stop the war, but we do not have any option, except to defend our nation. This is a conflict between the biggest cultures in the world at a time when the climate is changing rapidly."

A US-born al-Qaida spokesman, Adam Gadahn, wrote back to Bin Laden laying the merits or otherwise of using US news stations to mark the "Manhattan battle" as it is referred to in the memo.

Fox News is dismissed because it "falls into the abyss as you know, and lacks neutrality too".

"I used to think that MSNBC channel may be good and neutral a bit, but is has lately fired two of the most famous journalists – Keith Olbermann and Octavia Nasser the Lebanese," wrote Gadahn.

In fact, Nasser was sacked from CNN after she sent a tweet mourning the death of a Hezbollah leader. Olbermann was dismissed for making financial donations to Democratic party politicians.

CNN is questioned, although its Arabic "version brings good and detailed reports".

"As for the neutrality of CNN in English, it seems to be in cooperation with the government more than the others (except Fox News of course)," he said.
Gadhan describes ABC as "all right":

"Actually it could be one of the best channels, as far as we are concerned. It is interested in al-Qaida issues, particularly the journalist Brian Ross, who is specialised in terrorism. The channel is still proud for its interview with the shaykh (Bin Laden)," he said. "CBS channel was mentioned by the shaykh. I see that it is like the other channels, but it has a famous programme (60 Minutes) that has some popularity and a good reputation for its long broadcasting time. Only god knows the reality, as I am not really in a position to do so."

The merits and shortcomings of other major US broadcasters are considered before Gadahn decided he couldn't make his mind up and worried that al-Qaida's message may come under critical scrutiny. He wrote:

"In conclusion, we can say that there is no single channel that we could rely on for our messages. I may ignore them, and even the channel that broadcast them, probably it would distort them somehow. This is accomplished by bringing analysts and experts that would interpret its meaning in the way they want it to be. Or they may ignore the message and conduct a smearing of the individuals, to the end of the list of what you know about their cunning methods."

"In general, and no matter what material we send, I suggest that we should distribute it to more than one channel, so that there will be healthy competition between the channels in broadcasting the material, so that no other channel takes the lead. It should be sent for example to ABC, CBS, NBC, and CNN and maybe PBS and VOA. As for Fox News, let her die in her anger."...

And they would have lapped it up, and competed for it. But will they ever give freedom fighters a fair hearing? Don't hold your breath.

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...to press home the message that the major powers would be better concentrating on climate change than pursuing al-Qaida. (bin Laden)

'It don't take a weather-man to know which way the wind blows...' (Bob Dylan)

The MSM are clearly complicit in violent jihad!

Clowns!

Information about the ravages of Islam is important,I have that belief,read:

"The Temple of Krishna in Mathura,his Birthplace,one of the Holiest in Hinduism,was Destroyed by Muslims"

http://www.antisharia.com/2012/02/29/the-temple-of-krishna-in-mathurahis-birthplaceone-of-the-holiest-in-hinduismwas-destroyed-by-muslims/

"Video about why the Israeli Blockade of the Gaza Coast is 100% Justified"

http://www.antisharia.com/2011/06/30/video-about-why-the-israeli-blockade-of-the-gaza-coast-is-100-justified/

MSNBC's morning joe should get credit for airing this interview with Jose A. Rodriguez, Jr. on the productive CIA use of waterbording.

http://tinyurl.com/868zrhz

The persecution of the people involved by Obama & the democrats is unforgivable.

Adam must be watching a lot of television...It's not quite as good as Allah for creating mind warps, but it definitely creates them...A Mahoundian who watches television/cable is double mind warped, maybe triple if they watch Springer...
Springer is a perfect example of America's decadence...I'm surprised Adam or maybe Hamas dont use it as examples of every day American life...regular kuffar behavior...

Watching TV should be considered harram. .it does not mix well with the 7th century mindset.

. .and nitrogenous fertilizers etc. are a definite no-no.

OT

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So Osama was a climate change enthusiast! Who woulda thunk it? Maybe Obama is a closet AGW denier, or at least a tool of the deniers. Algore, watch your step, Obama may sic the SEALs on you next.

" In a memorandum made public by the US military's Combating Terrorism Center on Thursday, Bin Laden asked for advice on exploiting the anniversary of the 9/11 attacks. "We need to benefit from this event and get our messages to the Muslims and celebrate the victory that they achieved. We need to restore their confidence in their nation and motivate them."

Aaah, a victory for MUSLIMS, from the mouth of OBL.....and muslims are supposedly not our enemy? Our government has to be stupid not to pay attention and identify ISLAM and it's followers, MUSLIMS, Ppas the enemy. Beam me up Scotty, there's very little intelligent life down here.

Eeeeeer...aren't muhoms/ mus persons by their behavior towards the rest of the family of man demanding that they be treated as renegades?

But an American-born media adviser for al-Qaeda warned Bin Laden to beware of the broadcasters' "cunning methods" as he described Fox News as a channel in the "abyss" that should "die in anger", CNN as too close to the US government and MSNBC as questionable after it fired one of its most prominent presenters, Keith Olbermann.
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Hey, even *Al Gore* fired Keith Olbermann. Still, Keith should feel *so proud* that Osama bin Laden liked his work...

More:

In a memorandum made public by the US military's Combating Terrorism Center on Thursday, Bin Laden asked for advice on exploiting the anniversary of the 9/11 attacks.

"We need to benefit from this event and get our messages to the Muslims and celebrate the victory that they achieved. We need to restore their confidence in their nation and motivate them. We should also present our just cause to the world, especially to the European people," he said.
..........................................

Hey—what does more to "restore the confidence" of a people than a reminder that they murdered nearly 3000 innocent civilians ten years ago? (Note: this only works for Muslims)

And any Europeans who still maintain a shred of decency and self-respect should be appalled that Osama bin Laden considered them easy targets for this "message", and assumed they would consider the subjugation of the world to the barbarity of Islam a "just cause".

More:

Bin Laden suggested contacting Al-Jazeera.

"You can point out to them that this way they will be showing the other opinion," he said.
..........................................

Yet another reason to consider Al-Jazeera suspect...

More:

But he also wondered if it would be good to work with an American channel, suggesting CBS as "close to being unbiased"...
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"Unbiased" here means open to presenting the message of Jihadists...

More:

Bin Laden added that the organisation should approach a British journalist, Robert Fisk of the Independent, and other reporters to press home the message that the major powers would be better concentrating on climate change than pursuing al-Qaida.
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Another "journalist" who must be bursting with pride right about now...

Here's Robert Fisk decrying standing up against terrorism (and no—that's not because he finds the term 'Jihad' more accurate):

"'Terrorism' is a word that has become a plague on our vocabulary,the excuse and reason and moral permit for state-sponsored violence - our violence - which is now used on the innocent of the Middle East ever more outrageously and promiscuously. Terrorism, terrorism, terrorism. It has become a full stop, a punctuation mark, a phrase, a speech, a sermon, the be-all and end-all of everything that we must hate in order to ignore injustice and occupation and murder on a mass scale. Terror, terror, terror, terror. It is a sonata, a symphony, an orchestra tuned to every television and radio station and news agency report, the soap-opera of the Devil, served up on prime-time or distilled in wearyingly dull and mendacious form by the right-wing 'commentators' of the America east coast or the Jerusalem Post or the intellectuals of Europe. Strike against Terror. Victory over Terror. War on Terror. Everlasting War on Terror. Rarely in history have soldiers and journalists and presidents and kings aligned themselves in such thoughtless, unquestioning ranks. In August 1914, the soldiers thought they would be home by Christmas. Today, we are fighting for ever. The war is eternal. The enemy is eternal, his face changing on our screens. Once he lived in Cairo and sported a moustache and nationalised the Suez Canal. Then he lived in Tripoli and wore a ridiculous military uniform and helped the IRA and bombed American bars in Berlin. Then he wore a Muslim Imam's gown and ate yoghurt in Teheran and planned Islamic revolution. Then he wore a white gown and lived in a cave in Afghanistan and then he wore another silly moustache and resided in a series of palaces around Baghdad. Terror, terror, terror. Finally, he wore a kuffiag headdress and outdated Soviet-style military fatigues, his name was Yassir Arafat, and he was the master of world terror and then a super-statesman and then again, a master of terror, linked by Israeli enemies to the terror-Meister of them all, the one who lived in the Afghan cave."

http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Robert_Fisk

Supposedly we hate people who "eat yoghurt". And notice the nice "shout-out" to Osama himself in that last line. No wonder Osama loved this guy!

More:

"This is a chance to explain our motives for continuing the war. The wise people would tell you to give people their rights in order to be able to focus on other vital issues such as global warming. They have the option to stop the war, but we do not have any option, except to defend our nation. This is a conflict between the biggest cultures in the world at a time when the climate is changing rapidly."
..........................................

Bwahahahaha! Well, everyone knows that Islam is "green"...

More:

A US-born al-Qaida spokesman, Adam Gadahn, wrote back to Bin Laden laying the merits or otherwise of using US news stations to mark the "Manhattan battle" as it is referred to in the memo.
..........................................

This is the first time I have heard the murder of civilians in the WTC referred to as the "Manhattan battle". I guess this makes Muslims feel even prouder of their vile suicide attack brethren...

More:

As for Fox News, let her die in her anger."
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*Priceless*. FOXNews should run that as a regular headline.

"Here's Robert Fisk decrying standing up against terrorism (and no—that's not because he finds the term 'Jihad' more accurate):......"

Wow ! That's seriously disturbing. I always thought Robert Fisk was sort of borderline critical of Islam ? After all, didn't he write a doorstopper called "The Great War for Civilisation: The Conquest of the Middle East" ?

You'd expect something more objective from an investigative journalist like him, at least.

There has been quite a media storm over the accuracy of Fisk’s reporting. No doubt, in some ways, he is a fine reporter, but in some ways, he is an outrageous one, his work containing bias, inaccuracy, half-truths, euphemisms and now, it seems embellishments.

http://hurryupharry.org/2012/03/23/robert-fisk-makes-things-up/

I suggest you read Hugh Fitzgerald’s “tribute” to Fisk.

You mentioned Mr Fitzgerald's 'tribute' to Robert Fisk, published here in April 2008.

Here it is, for the delectation and instruction of all newer members of and visitors to this forum.

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2008/04/fitzgerald-a-tribute-to-robert-fisk.html

ladies and gentlemen, if you came on board here anytime after about May/ June 2008, click and read.

Anushirvan wrote"

"Here's Robert Fisk decrying standing up against terrorism (and no—that's not because he finds the term 'Jihad' more accurate):......"

Wow ! That's seriously disturbing. I always thought Robert Fisk was sort of borderline critical of Islam ? After all, didn't he write a doorstopper called "The Great War for Civilisation: The Conquest of the Middle East" ?
................................

Yes, he did, Anishirvan—but that book is *not* what you might think. The title might as well have "sarc" quotes around it—especially the bit about "civilisation".

This, from the Amazon blurb on the book:

"...Reaching back into the long history of invasion, occupation and colonization in the region, Fisk sets forth this information in a way that makes clear how a history of injustice “has condemned the Middle East to war.” He lays open the role of the West in the seemingly endless strife and warfare in the region, traces the growth of the West’s involvement and influence there over the past one hundred years, and outlines the West’s record of support for some of the most ruthless leaders in the Middle East. He chronicles the ever-more-powerful military presence of the United States and tracks the consequent, increasingly virulent anti-Western–and particularly anti-American–sentiment among the region’s Muslim populations.

"Fisk interweaves this history with his own vividly rendered experiences in Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, Algeria, Israel, Palestine and Lebanon–on the front lines; behind the scenes; in the streets of cities and villages; and inside military headquarters, the hideouts of guerrillas, the homes of ordinary citizens. Here, too, are indelible portraits of Osama bin Laden, Ayatollah Khomeini and Yassir Arafat, among others–all of whom he has met face-to-face–revelatory in their apprehension of the individuals and the ideologies they represent..."

http://www.amazon.com/The-Great-War-Civilisation-Conquest/dp/1400041511

In other words, violent Jihad is the fault of the West—particularly of the United States. His "indelible portraits" of barbaric Jihadists are quite sympathetic, as well...

Ugly stuff.

The perfect corrective, of course, to Fisk's false representations of people like Yasser Arafat and Khomeini would be for people to read what Oriana Fallaci - who had *also* done (and published)extensive interviews with both men - had to say about them...I understand she had also interviewed Gaddafi.

If I recall correctly, she discusses Yasser Arafat in 'The Rage and the Pride', and rips into Khomeini in an extended passage in 'The Force of Reason'; and out there somewhere would be the text of the actual interviews and probably articles in which she discusses these two evil jihad gang bosses.

She found Arafat entirely loathsome and incoherent to boot; Khomeini was not so immediately repulsive, and could at least string two words together at a time, but she could see right through him just the same.

An account of her interview with Khomeini, with a few tantalising excerpts.

http://neo-neocon.blogspot.com.au/2006/09/fallaci-goes-few-rounds-with-khomeini.html

For those who can read Italian, here's that interview.

http://iransnews.wordpress.com/2011/05/26/oriana-fallacis-interview-with-khomeini-1/

I will make a copy of it and have a go at translating it into English myself; I'm not sure if a complete English translation is out there on the internet already.

The same website also has the full text (in Italian) of her interview with Arafat.


Dumbledore's Army, you are quite right about the brave Oriana Fallaci. She also—famously—ripped her Chador off while interviewing the Ayatollah Khomeini. Considering the fact that women were being imprisoned and flogged in Iran at the time for doing just that, a conssumately brave act.

I've read both the "The Rage and the Pride" and "The Force of Reason" in English. The available English translations are a bit clunky, yet her fierce prose still shines. I would recommend both books to everyone here. I understand they are even more powerful in the original Italian.

Here's just one one more bit from the odious and moronic Robert Fisk, courtesy of Odyessus—who posted just above—from the comment stream of the Hugh Fitzgerald article from 2008 that you linked to:

"In Lebanon in the mid-1980s, in Algeria and then Bosnia, our protection as neutral correspondents had disintegrated. We were abducted, murdered because we were Westerners or because we were regarded as combatants. Two months before I was beaten at Kila Abdulla, I had attempted to interview a Muslim cleric in a village mosque outside Peshwar. “Why are you taking this kaffir into our mosque?” a bearded man had shouted at the mullah. I conducted the interview outside the building. But I was a kaffir. So was Pearl. So, it seemed, were we all. Where did it all go wrong?

I have always believed the rot started in Vietnam…”
...

Anyone with an even passing understanding of Islam will understand what is going on here—and it has *nothing* to do with "Vietnam".

This increased hatred of Infidels Fisk noted—and grossly misunderstood, or pretended to—is directly tied to the increasing Islamization of the Muslim world, when the last borrowed shreds of the civilizing influence of Western law and norms fell away in Pakistan and places like it; and the full, ugly force of Islam came back to the fore.

Refusing to allow Kaffirs into the Mosque, regarding *any* Infidel—even journalists—as as spies and "combatants" against Muslims, and the quick turn to violence—beatings, abductions, and murder—are all perfectly in line wherever unadulterated Islam holds sway.

That he blames the abduction and beheading of Danny Pearl—a *classic* case of Islamic savagery against a man who was regarded as a "spy"—because a journalist—and who was not merely a Kaffir, but a *Jew*, on American missteps in the Vietnam conflict which had ended *more than twenty-five years ago* is grotesque beyond belief.

Again, no wonder bin Laden considered Fisk a "journalist" to watch...

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