Obama’s deal with Karzai bans raids on al-Qaida bases in Pakistan

Why would Karzai press for such a deal if he is really an ally? Why would Obama agree to it? "Obama’s deal with Karzai bans raids on al-Qaida bases in Pakistan," by Neil Munro for The Daily Caller, May 4 (thanks to all who sent this in):

President Barack Obama has promised not to attack Pakistan-based al-Qaida leaders or fighters from bases inside Afghanistan.

The surprising commitment effectively bars Obama and his successors from launching another nighttime helicopter raid like the one that that killed Osama bin Laden. That raid has proven to be Obama’s primary foreign-policy success because it killed bin Laden, scooped up much intelligence data and shocked Pakistan.

Obama’s commitment will also end the use of secretive drone-attacks from Afghanistan. Those attacks have killed hundreds of al-Qaida leaders since the mid-2000s. They’ve also been very popular with U.S voters, and usually have had tacit Pakistan approval.

The unadvertised provision is buried in the deal that Afghan president Hamid Karzai and Obama signed with much campaign-style fanfare May 1 in Kabul. It could provide a legal shield for Pakistani-based al-Qaida’s leaders, front-line fighters, terrorism-planners, allied terror-leaders, funders, terror bases and terror training-grounds.

“The United States further pledges not to use Afghan territory or facilities as a launching point for attacks against other countries,” says the provision, found in paragraph 6b of the eight-page deal.

The deal was signed on the one-year anniversary of the bin Laden raid....

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so what now...US Military to protect the Afgan borders?

no worry ... the umma of the highlands will govern themselves by SHARIA and we'll all get along

It just gets better and better, doesn't it? What next? An announcement that the Capitol in D.C. is to have its dome painted green, and be turned into a mosque? They may as well get it over and done with now, as it will clearly happen eventually anyway at the rate they're going.

What is amazing to me that we dont have riots against the White House for Obama selling the country down the river.Unbelievable.

Still think Barackbar is not a Muslim?

George Clooney doesn't seem to think so, as he's helping to raise millions of dollars for his reelection; or, maybe, he just doesn't care--about that or about the plight of the United States.

Then again, a few years ago, Colin Powell--yes, the former Secretary of State--asserted that there isn't anything wrong with having a Muslim as the POTUS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovW8rBPg_FU

If Powell can be a high-profile ignoramus, why couldn't Clooney?

Islam: where freedom ends and slavery begins.

I'm thinking that the sole mission for US troops in Afghanistan is to just be a target for crazed Muslims to attack...

It's time to bring them home and sack the Islamic terrorist friendly Obama...It boggles the mind how he is allowed to remain in office..

“The United States further pledges not to use Afghan territory or facilities as a launching point for attacks against other countries,”

I guess that rules out an air raid on Iran's nuclear plants from a base in Afghanistan! When the US had military bases in Iraq and Afghanistan, we had Iran surrounded.

Cheeseburger Eating Surrender Monkey.

Fortunately a presidential agreement is not binding on the US. Treaties must be ratified by the Senate. The next POTUS, hopefully a real POTUS, will be free to simply say, "Zerobama Lied. Eff You."

But we have no credible mission in Afghanistan. Karzai has proven himself unworthy of US support. He should be eliminated with extreme prejudice. Pour encourager les autres.

We should abandon this fool's errand.

Just like Obama broke the deal that the US had w/ Libya by supporting the rebels against Col Gadaffi, a GOP successor should pay him back in kind - just break the treaty and go in anyway the next time Pakistan is found cheating, whether it's from Afghanistan, Diego Garcia or anywhere else. Once it's made clear to the Muslims that a treaty by the Muslims w/ the US is about as valid as Muslim treaties are i.e. the US will feel free to violate them whenever necessary/convenient, future Obamas will find it tough to get negotiating partners from the jihadis. Which is what is needed.

If Muslims have a problem w/ that, just say 'alhadimullah'.

The case of a tortured Afghan child bride whose treatment shocked the world has led to three members of her husband’s family being jailed for 10 years, an official said Saturday.

Read more: http://www.maghrebchristians.com/2012/05/05/torturers-of-afghan-child-bride-sentenced-to-10-years-in-jail/#ixzz1u0Xor5dF

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ROMNEY, THE BIN LADEN RAID AND OBAMA'S CRAZY DEAL WITH KHARZI

I dare anyone who doubts that Obama is certifiably insane and unfit to be President and Commander In Chief to read the following and tell me that I'm wrong.

Just days after Obama caused a firestorm with his statement about Romney lacking the guts to do what he did last year and order the raid on Osama bin Laden in Pakistan he incoherently and insanely signs a deal with Kharzi with a provision that effectively bans all US military operations and strikes inside Pakistan. What this means in that if bin Laden were alive today and living in his Abbottabad compound (or elsewhere in Pakistan) with the CIA just now locating him Obama would not have ordered the raid because of his agreement with Kharzi. It doesn't get any crazier than this.

Now what Romney should do is this: he needs to call a press conference where he points out Obama's egregious inconsistency of ordering the bin Laden raid and then signing an agreement with Kharzi that would have prohibited it. He needs to say that as President he would never have agreed to such a deal and that once elected he would renegotiate it to remove the provision banning US strikes inside Pakistan; or modify it for missions related specifically to Al Qaida leaders such as Saif al-Adel Bin or Amin al-Haq or bin Laden's replacement Ayman al Zawahiri. And failing that he should summon the courage to say that as Commander in Chief he'd ignore the agreement if Al Qaida leaders are discovered living in Pakistan and strike them dead with drone attacks or Seal raids. That would be incredibility ballsy and show him to be a tougher man than Obama on national security.

What's happening is the greatest political subterfuge ever perpetrated on western society. I'm afraid George Clooney, is just another ignorent fool who is facillitating a diabolical Socialist/Islamic political agenda. It has very little to do with hunger, human rights and religious freedom.

This is what George Clooney and others like him, fail to understand.

The sooner we remove this Islamic/Socialist shill from the White House the better!

If I was the following president to Obama, that's exactly what I'd do. Ignore the deal completely - do what you want, rip it up. It's not worth the paper it's written on.

In any case, there is NO negotiation with Islam. None. The non-muslims make concessions, and the muslims don't. And the muslims keep coming back for more and more concessions until they have everything they want.

Spencer asks the ostensibly reasonable rhetorical questions ==

Why would Karzai press for such a deal if he is really an ally? Why would Obama agree to it?

There is, however, a logical answer to both questions that points precisely to one of the main features of our ongoing problem Islam:

Locations where known Muslim enemies operate tend be ensconced, in a variety of ways including the concretely physical, within broader demographic Muslim milieus -- to a great extent, obviously, because those broader milieus are in a variety of ways enabling if not (covertly, and sometimes brazenly overtly) supporting the jihadists-cum-terrorists.

Thus, in many instances and contexts, tactics calculated to target the "MOE" (Minority of Extremists") cannot help, or greatly increase the danger of causing, collateral damage -- where that term, which among normal populations means the tragic but sometimes unavoidable killing of some members of a broader super-population of innocents, when dealing with Muslim demographics our reason tells us -- after we have been connecting the mountains and oceans of dots of damning data about Muslims and their Islam over the years -- would involve actions we have to take against many who seem to be innocent but who are likely to be guilty enablers and/or supporters of our enemy.

Karzai and Obama (just as Bush and Romney) are thinking in terms of the PC MC paradigm, which strictly segregates the MOE from the super-population of Muslims in which any given MOE may be ensconced: that super-population, according to the PC MC paradigm (cunningly exploited by Karzai, believed idealistically by Bush and Romney, and ardently by Obama), is comprised of prejudicially assumed innocents whose inviolability, according to our COIN (our counter-insurgency strategy that has ruled our military efforts against the MOE for the past 11 years), is more important than the lives of our own men and women.

W.P.S. (Weary Postscript):

Until the West wakes up to the fact that the MOE rationally comprises all Muslims, we will continue to be playing Muslim Roulette with the lives of our own citizens in our own societies -- and that game, in the coming decades as long as we don't halt all immigration and begin deportation, will only continue to escalate and metastasize year by year in potentially horrific deadliness, as we fritter away billions of dollars in grand neo-Wilsonian projects whether military or otherwise.

Pull out of Afghanistan completely, now that OBL sleeps with the fishes.

And since Khaled Sheikh Muhammad is in front of a military tribunal, he ought to get the death penalty. Once given, the penalty should be carried out by cutting him in pieces and feeding him to pigs.

When Barry-"God-D**n-America"-Obama; Barak-"Driver's-License-for-Illegals"-Obama entered White House; some of us braced for an assault on America as we know it. Yet, few imagined the multi-cultural mania will get USA square in the eye of a storm we are in.
We should have known better.

After November, we should have a real President, with balls, who will negate any deals like this.

Just days after Obama caused a firestorm with his statement about Romney lacking the guts to do what he did last year and order the raid on Osama bin Laden in Pakistan he incoherently and insanely signs a deal with Kharzi with a provision that effectively bans all US military operations and strikes inside Pakistan.


It makes me wonder if it wasn't Karzai who gave up Osama bin-Laden in exchange for such a deal...I know that sounds far fetched but history is laden with such devious deals...

obama promised "CHANGE", but now we realize that he in fact issued an ominous warning ...

Thank you jihadwatch for once again bringing important information to your readers. It's getting so the only reason to read newspapers and watch MSM TV news is for ammusement to see what they DON'T report.

"After November, we should have a real President, with balls, who will negate any deals like this."

You mean "balls" that lead to public proclamations that violent Jihad has "nothing to do with Islam"?

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2009/06/mitt-romney-jihadism-is-not-islam.html

With balls like those, who needs enemies?

I would like to be pointed out how wrong I am to even think in this direction, but Like you, I share the same thoughts... I am afraid that the great u.s of a as we knew, no longer is...
It has turned into an American idol nation, and 'no sense to go out with pitch forks and torches, for the media has assured us that all's ok and the anointed one has EVERYTHING under control'...
Here is a frog being boiled alive, if there has ever been one!

We need to change the mindsets of those who believe that a government controlled economy is better than an economy driven by private capital investments and free enterprise.

Reluctance aside, the choice is clear in November. The alternative? a disaster that will resonate for generations to come.

Unless Karzai put Obama on to the courier it's just not possible. As Obama is running for reelection and needed this deal for that end Karzai made banning all US military action into Pakistan a nessesary condition of the agreement. In agreeing to it Obama shamefully and recklessly put politics above national security by making Pakistan a safe haven for Al Qaida.

The impeachment process is as follows: 1) Grounds of treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors are recognized; 2) The House of Representatives issues Articles of Impeachment; and, 3) The Senate conducts a trial and must have a two-thirds vote to impeach. The penalty is being removed from office and disqualified from further public office.

Title 18 of the U.S. Code defines treason: "§ 2381. Treason. Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office in the United States. (June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 807; Pub. L. 103–322, title XXXIII, § 330016(2)(J), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2148.)" (Emphasis added)

Petition to Impeach Obama:

http://www.petition2congress.com/6519/impeach-mr-obama/.

Thanks for the reminder.

We are really screwed.

The day such a realization - that MOE for all practical purposes consists of all Muslims - dawns on the US government as a collective, you'd no longer need to DHS - at least not to the scale that one does now. Blacklist all Muslims as being a threat, and unapologetically and agressively profile them until they take a one way haj and never return.

Once that is achieved, the DHS would then have to crack down on all anti-US activists - people who either have been bought and paid for by either the various sheikhs from the Gulf states, or those whose anti-American activism have made them foot soldiers of the jihad. Those who would ship activists to Israel, go on a hike to iran and so on.

Well, Infidel Pride, one thing at a time. We can't gobble up the whole picnic at once!

Obama’s deal with Karzai bans raids on al-Qaida bases in Pakistan

Why would Karzai press for such a deal if he is really an ally? Why would Obama agree to it?
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And yet, all this will be lost to besides-the-point accusations as to whether Obama is making the killing of bin Laden "political".

How many Americans even realize that this is what the deal with Karzai means, along with the ending of drone attacks?

On Saturday, Bill Maher opined that if Obama gets a second term, that we will really see what he intends (I'm paraphrasing here). I think this will be all too true—and it's nothing that will be good for Americans, the West, or the fight against Jihad.

Lou Bator wrote:

After November, we should have a real President, with balls, who will negate any deals like this.
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Well, we're not going to get one—not this time around, at any rate. Mitt Romney is hardly a committed Anti-Jihadist.

Still, a second term of Barack Obama—where he is not constrained by concerns of reelection—would likely be much, much worse...

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