Sweden: 6 out of 10 imams give illegal advice. "Deeply regrettable that they live up to all the prejudices of the Islamophobes".

Swedish State TV (SVT) has made its own Undercover Mosque as part of the investigative series call Uppdrag. Translated from Swedish by Nicolai Sennels, Sydsvenskan, May 16: "Women advised not to report to the police":

With hidden cameras and secret telephone recording equipment, two women went to the country's ten largest mosques to ask for advice regarding polygamy, abuse and sex without consent. Tonight's Uppdrag, broadcast on SVT, documents that the advice of the mosque's representatives are often contradictory to Swedish law. ... Six out of ten mosques advised the woman not to report the beatings to the police. At one mosque different answers were given, and another mosque gave an unclear answer. Only at two mosques were the woman advised to contact the police. Nine out of ten said that under certain conditions men are allowed to marry several women. Only one said that man cannot do so and that he must comply with Swedish law. The illegal advice to the women was given by imams or Muslim family counselors.

When Uppdrag's journalist Janne Josefsson asked two of the largest mosques about their official position, the answers were different from what they had given the undercover journalist. In front of Josefsson, the Chairman of the Islamic Uppsala Association said that people should act in accordance with Swedish law. Confronted with what the imam at the mosque said to the women, the chairman said that the imam's personal opinion was that the woman should forgive the man rather than report the abuse. But what the imam actually said to the woman was to defend polygamy, and he advised the woman not to report the abuse to the police and instead give her husband more love. "Do not refuse to give love to him, maybe he will change," said the imam.

After the confrontation with Josefsson, the Islamic Association of Stockholm has suspended the imam and started an investigation.

"This is a case of clear violation of Swedish law and misconduct by the imams and the organisations," says Mohammad Fazlhashemi, professor and author of books on Muslim history of philosophy. Fazlhashemi involved himself in the program and has received a written presentation of the advice given to women. "What these men say to the women violates their human rights. These men humiliate and violate women when they say 'you have to put up with this man's beatings,'" says Mohammad Fazlhashemi. He is highly critical of the fact that the imams do not comply with Swedish law.

"Since the mosques receive government grants, they must agree to follow Swedish law and fundamental democratic principles." ... Mohammad Fazlhashemi, himself a Muslim, believe that the outdated mosque representatives benefit Muslim-haters and the Sweden Democrats (Sweden's only Islam-critical party).

"The imams confirm the caricature of Muslims. It is deeply regrettable that they live up to all the prejudices of the Islamophobes."

JihadWatch on the Swedish Democrats: "Nicolai Sennels interviews politician Kent Ekeroth, Swedish Democrats: no more mosques, no more Muslim schools"

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"The imams confirm the caricature of Muslims. It is deeply regrettable that they live up to all the prejudices of the Islamophobes." - Mohammad Fazlhashemi

That has got to be the gem statement of the decade! Welcome to the world of Newspeak.

"It is deeply regrettable that they live up to all the prejudices of the Islamophobes."

There are really very few "Islamophobes" -- i.e. people with an irrational, unwarranted fear of Islam. What we have is a growing number of people who have become alarmed at the increasing influence and power of Islam and Moslems in the West, and in the world. They are "Islam-fearful", but not "Islamophobic." And their fears are based on years of observation of Moslem behavior and Islamic teachings -- it is "post-judicial" not "pre-judicial".
If one believes a man guilty of murder simply because one doesn't like his looks, one is prejudiced. But if one believes that man guilty of murder after he has been tried and found guilty in a court of law, then one is convinced by the evidence, and is not prejudiced.
Many of us, myself included, have become convinced by the last 20 or 30 years of observing Islam and Moslems that Islam, and Moslems who faithfully follow its teachings, have no place in a our society. Our conclusions are not prejudiced, they are rational and empirical, based on evidence and long obsrvation.

excellent post here!!! while you are convinced in last 20/30 years, I lived it for 19 years! where ever Islam is present, there is a dark cloud above it.
M

I hope Canada cracks down on the jihadi-friendly Imams that spew hatred for the West an d demonize the jews and unbelievers because we are now finally seeing the truth come out for their madrassas of hatred that they portrayed as islaimc schools of Tolarance and peace.
These non-citiziens shooudl be booted from canada very quickly and then foce muslims to fund the de-radicalizing of every child they poisoned because we know the saudi's fund this crap and they shoudl pay to de-program the kids being groomed to do acts of Terrorism in canada one day.

The honest Imam's tell the truth about Jihad and wanting Shariah law in canada, and the taqqiyah imams tell the CBC that those Imams misunderstand the peaceful techings and that isdlam is really about love and equality...blah blah blah blah, blah blah.

that is actually a great tactic that the muslim imams are doing. do you know good cop and bad cop? one of them plays nasty and ther one plys nicely and at the end they get exactlly what they want. i do not know where in canda you live, but I have been to toronto. it is depressing to say the least. one might as well in pakistan. I went see a freind there too 200 mile from tornto, it was there that I felt at home!!! no muslims!! but dont worry they will get there very soo if site idle.
M

They 'live up to the prejudices of the Islamophobes' - yes, but where did the Islamophobes get their crazy prejudices from? Isn't that just the most remarkable coincidence, that Islamophobes pulled some random stereotypes out of their butts and they just so happen to match up remarkably well with the actual truth?

"Mohammad Fazlhashemi, himself a Muslim, believe that the outdated mosque representatives benefit Muslim-haters and the Sweden Democrats (Sweden's only Islam-critical party)."

"The imams confirm the caricature of Muslims. It is deeply regrettable that they live up to all the prejudices of the Islamophobes."

The silly unbeliever can be blamed for anything and everything ...even for being right when the duplicitous believer is caught out.

This article may be added to the list of "undercover mosque" efforts done over the years.

The most famous and most comprehensive one was conducted in England in several mosques.

Another was done in one mosque in Prague, of the Czech Republic.

Another was conducted in six mosques throughout Italy.

Yet another I can't find was done by one bold woman in an American mosque, which I believe was reported years ago at the Frontpage.com site.

P.S.: See, awake and Kinana of Khaybar? Some of my posts are useful for the purposes of this site. (In fact, most of my posted comments on Jihad Watch over the years have been approximately like this one; but that doesn't matter to polemical hobbyhorsemen with unfair and/or unhinged axes to grind hell-bent to smear rather than calmly to assess the actual evidence.)

Addendum: Though I still cannot find the case of the woman who personally went undercover into an American mosque, there was this survey done by undercover infiltrators who understand Arabic and Urdu and monitored 100 mosques -- the Mapping Sharia project, which found the majority of American mosques are promoting in one way or another Islamic supremacism and its logical concomitant, veiled truculence and bellicosity against the Unbeliever and his ways and laws.

Of course they do. Islamophobia is a political invention to demonise other people. We're just preaching Islam and now, so are 6 of 10 Imams in Sweden.

...what's even more surprising is that 4 out of 10 seemingly give LEGAL advice.

OT


LOL, here's the latest on Elhagaly's petition:

http://www.change.org/petitions/please-support-our-fight-against-hate-in-america#

As usual, they're using the islamic "victimhood" tactic and the made-up word "islamophobia" (I am not an islamophobe, which would imply an *irrational* fear of islam. I am a proud islamoloathe.) to cloud the issue, which is the criminal mutilation of female children.

I am not ashamed of my previous statements, which many of you know are often in response to muslims' agressive statements of worldwide islamic supremacy and domination and admonitions about the ultimate demise of the "Infidels" at the hands of their muslim conquerors.

Hussam Al-Deen (another pseudonym, just like Al-Haj - the doctor did not dare publish under his legal name, Elhagaly) also confuses me with Raven King, the petition organizer, a health-and-wellness activist. I guess he should read Jihad Watch more often, to keep up with the news.

To clarify ONCE AGAIN:

My political views have absolutely nothing to do with the issue at hand, i.e., the advocacy of the criminal mutilation of female children.

However, it's always so convenient for muslims to cry "islamophobia" when they're caught red-handed. Of course, we're used to their attempts at deflection by now.

What a joke these Muslim Profs are. If Muslims everywhere were to go on a rampage quoting the Koran as their inspiration Mohammad Fazlhashemi would express his regrets that they are living up to all the prejudices of the Islamophobes. Now matter how much carnage Muslims do - or have done historically - they are just living up to all the prejudices of the Islamophobes. Does he really think most infidels are so easily fooled?

"The imams confirm the caricature of Muslims. It is deeply regrettable that they live up to all the prejudices of the Islamophobes."
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If the 'caricatures' are true, and the 'prejudices' are true, doesn't that mean that the "Islamophobes" were right? When will they print that story? When will they print the story about the multi-culturalists being wrong?

.... not holding my breath waiting

Hey Champ,

Actually, if you read the article more closely you'll see that it's not really a "clean" 4 out of 10:

At one mosque different answers were given, and another mosque gave an unclear answer. Only at two mosques were the woman advised to contact the police.

And I think it would be reasonable -- following my rule of thumb to never give Muslims the benefit of the doubt but rather to do the opposite until overwhelming evidence indicates otherwise -- to assume that the two who did the right thing were just being careful based on paranoia that they might be "stung".

Yeah you're right, LemonLime!! ...a closer look reveals that there's no such thing as an Honest imam. Whew, whatta relief, for a moment there I thought that some good could come from evil. Nah!

Hey I'll give credit where credit is due, but it isn't warranted in this case ...

:)

If you read very carefully, you'll see that the score is:

1 mosque = all correct answers
3 mosques = mixed answers
6 mosques = all wrong answers

I think it's quite plausible that 1 mosque in 10 is honestly moderate and liberal. That still leaves 90% who are either confused or outright lying.

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