AP sues NJ police department over Muslim surveillance data

The Leftist mainstream media is determined to demonize and destroy the NYPD's entirely legitimate counterterror program. "AP sues NJ police department over Muslim spy data," from the Associated Press, June 11 (thanks to Kenneth):

NEWARK, N.J. – The Associated Press sued a New Jersey police department on Monday over its denial of a request for information stemming from a secret spying effort by New York's police department against Muslims.

The lawsuit claims the New Brunswick Police Department violated state open-records laws when it denied a request for 911 calls and radio recordings associated with a June 2009 incident at an apartment near Rutgers University.

A building superintendent discovered terrorist literature and surveillance equipment in the apartment and called 911. New Brunswick police and the FBI responded and found that the superintendent had stumbled upon a command center set up by a secret team of New York Police Department intelligence officers who had been staging undercover operations.

An AP investigation into the spying program found that NYPD officers kept tabs on student groups at numerous schools including Yale University, Columbia University, the University of Pennsylvania, Syracuse University and New York University. The officers also placed informants in mosques and monitored bookstores, bars, cafes and nightclubs in ethnic neighborhoods in New York and New Jersey.

"Student groups," i.e., the Muslim Brotherhood group known as the Muslim Students Association.

New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg and his police commissioner, Raymond Kelly, have maintained that the NYPD's actions were legal and police have the right to travel beyond their city's limits to do their job and protect people. New Jersey's attorney general determined last month that NYPD activities in New Jersey were legal.

Last week, eight Muslims filed a federal lawsuit challenging the NYPD's activities as unconstitutional because they focused on people's religion, national origin and race.

The AP, in a letter dated April 26, requested information on the 911 call under New Jersey's Open Public Records Act.

In a response dated the same day, New Brunswick police Director Anthony Caputo denied the request on the grounds that it would compromise security at the apartment building by disclosing security or emergency procedures, that it would create a safety risk to the public by disclosing general security measures and investigative techniques and that the records were part of an ongoing investigation by a public agency....

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one would hope that someone in the AP is seriously investigating why the Brothers wish to setup a government within a government and that a little intel from the cops might shed some light on that effort

"The mainstream media is determined to demonize and destroy the NYPD's entirely legitimate counterterror program".

Well, if it is entirely legitimate - then there is nothing to hide - why so defensive. The law enforcement agencies must be seen to follow the law to the letter - otherwise why bother with the law at all?

The New Brunswick Police Department violated state open-records laws when it denied a request for 911 calls and radio recordings associated with a June 2009 incident at an apartment near Rutgers University.

Naughty, you will have to pay compensation for that!

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The officers placed informants in mosques and monitored bookstores, bars, cafes and nightclubs in ethnic neighborhoods in New York and New Jersey.

And now everybody knows because of the press, ain't the press a bitch -ain't freedom of speech and giving up secrets a bitch.

What's that? Speak louder...

"It's only a bitch where muslims are concerned!"...is that what you said? - Fine then change the law to say that...but until that law is passed - hand the records over...that's a court order.

What's that? No ...no please don't use that language against the Judge, he is only following the law.

I would love to see America once in my lifetime - whether all Americans are really so unfriendly and rude or are the people in JW a special case.

Any recommendations on which state I should visit 1st?

Well, if it ain't that brainless bint Rezali, I said in a friendly way .....


You wrote: 'I would love to see America once in my lifetime - whether all Americans are really so unfriendly and rude or are the people in JW a special case.'

Don't bother coming. You wouldn't like it! No Sharia, freedom of speech everywhere, freedom of conscience too, women are equal before the law, etc...

And, of course, the security organizations are allowed to gather information on suspects to protect these freedoms! And when the people you suspect have carried out more than 18,000 jihad attacks since 9/11, who wouldn't be justifiably suspicious of them?

You're a clown!

You wrote "Well, if it is entirely legitimate - then there is nothing to hide - why so defensive. "

This is a false dichotomy. Intelligence operations can be both legitimate and require to be hidden. You are either logically challenged or are working to undermine the defense of our society. Buraq is right.

The courts should dismiss the AP suit if the intelligence operation was not compromised by the arrival of the local police officers to the 911 call and as long as the operation at that location is continuing.

I don't see any of these Islamic front groups rushing to turn over their records of their Jihad related Islamic activities:

Islamic Society of North America (ISNA)
ISNA Fiqh Committee (now known as the Fiqh Council of North America)
ISNA Political Awareness Committee
Muslim Youth of North America
Muslim Students Association of the U.S. and Canada
Association of Muslim Scientists and Engineers
Islamic Medical Association (of North America)
Islamic Teaching Center
Malaysian Islamic Study Group
Foundation for International Development
North American Islamic Trust
Islamic Centers Division
American Trust Publications
Audio-Visual Center
Islamic Book Service
Islamic Circle of North America
Muslim Arab Youth Association
Islamic Association for Palestine
United Association for Studies and Research
International Institute of Islamic Thought
Muslim Communities Association
Association of Muslim Social Scientists (of North America)
Islamic Housing Cooperative
Muslim Businessmen Association
Islamic Education Department
Occupied Land Fund (later known as the Holy Land Foundation for Relief and Development)
Mercy International Association
Baitul Mal Inc.
Islamic Information Center (of America)

Rezali wrote:

"Well, if it is entirely legitimate - then there is nothing to hide - why so defensive."

Now ask ther Muslims that constantly complain about the surveillance the exct same question. If they have nothing to hide, then why so defensive?

Rezali again:

"The New Brunswick Police Department violated state open-records laws when it denied a request for 911 calls and radio recordings associated with a June 2009 incident at an apartment near Rutgers University."

That is not a statement of fact. That is what the suit claims. Intellectual honesty is not your strong suit, it appears. Don't gloat yet. The suit is not assured a victorious outcome.

Rezali again:

"Any recommendations on which state I should visit 1st?"

Your already in the perfect state. The state of abject denial. You've lost the argument here on this forum and you're losing the argument across America and into Europe as well. Nothing you gloat about here can change that emerging reality.

You fellows are grand.

Rezali Mehil wrote:

And now everybody knows because of the press, ain't the press a bitch -ain't freedom of speech and giving up secrets a bitch.
.................................

Here are Rezali Mehil's *actual* thoughts about freedom of speech, from the "Man jailed in modern, moderate Indonesia for insulting Muhammad" thread, where a man was beaten by a Muslim mob, then sentenced to almost three years in prison for daring to mention such things as the "Prophet" being attracted to his own daughter-in-law:

Indonesians have now taken their lead from Pakistan. We have enough Blasphemy in the West so there is no need to bring it "home".

I find it fascinating that learned judges are taking this stance, these are the people who America and the UK have been giving citizenship to now for over 30 years.
Indonesia is poorer for this experience - but never mind - for now your need is greater than ours.

Sooner or later these people start to judge in America too, the mindless cartoons and mistrust of the prophet PBUH will start to reduce.

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2012/06/indonesian-jailed-for-insulting-muhammad.html#comment-885497

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