Malaysian government views LGBT community as a 'spreading problem' to be stopped

And why? Because Lesbians, Gays, Bisexuals and Transsexuals (LGBTs) are considered to be against Islam, and hence must be removed from society by the government. The stop of the 'spread' of LGBTs is to be done via such coercive measure such as the Islamic religious police and the enforcement of Sharia laws that are already on the books.

Western gay rights organizations will of course take no heed or notice of the explicitly Islamic character of the oppression of the LGBT community in Malaysia. It seems that as far as these groups, along with at least one western government is concerned, the only religion that really oppresses homosexuals is Christianity. "Putrajaya reining in LGBT spread, says deputy minister', The Malaysian Insider, 19 June 2012:
KUALA LUMPUR, June 19 — The government views the lesbian, gay, bisexual and trans-sexual (LGBT) issue seriously and is controlling its spread through prevention efforts and legal enforcement, Deputy Minister in the Prime Minister’s Department Datuk Dr Mashitah Ibrahim told the Dewan Rakyat [the lower chamber of the Malaysian parliament] today.
I suppose that means there will be no Gay Pride parades coming to Malaysia anytime soon. As Malaysia is a 'moderate' Muslim state, unlucky members of the Malaysian LGBT community only face fines and imprisonment. At least for now.

She said these efforts were done with the help of the Islamic Development Department (Jakim) and State Religious Department (Jain) [Islamic Religious Police] through programmes such as the BEST! Tour which aimed to educate teenagers on social ills such as HIV Aids caused by homosexual lifestyles.

Of course. After thirty years of the AIDS pandemic, everyone knows that only homosexuals spread the virus that causes AIDS. With 'facts' like these, how can Malaysian education efforts on HIV or homosexuals go wrong?

“A series of rehabilitation and treatment courses will also be given to Muslims who have deviated from societal norms, while Jakim and Jain have conducted a Mukhayyam programme with repented transsexuals to obtain positive feedback from them,” she said in reply to an original question from Datuk Mohd Jidin (BN-Setiu) who wanted to know the government’s seriousness in tackling LGBT issues in the country.

'Rehabilitation and treatment' of LGBTs--apparently being a homosexual or transsexual is in the Malaysian government's view akin to being a drug addict. Under a Muslim government like Malaysia's, such views are state sanctioned and are not to be challenged, as Irshad Manji herself recently found out.

In terms of enforcement, she said laws clearly stated in the Syariah Criminal Offences (Federal Territories) Act 1997 (Act 559) can only be enforced on Muslims.

Of course, as to who is and who isn't a Muslim, that is up to the Government and the Sharia courts to decide. If they say you're a Muslim, then by Allah you are one. Your own say in the matter is irrelevant.

Dr Mashitah said the government and state religious authorities will take legal action against any Muslims involved in LGBT and who flout laws in each state.

There are no legal and religious provisions in Malaysia that allow homosexuality, free sex and same-sex marriages, she added. — Bernama

Sharia's provisions on homosexuality are quite harsh. Homosexuality is in fact a capital crime in Saudi Arabia, Iran, Yemen, Mauritania, and Sudan. But don't expect the official Malaysian government press agency Bernama to bother pointing out any of this.

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Oh Malaysia, west darling of "moderate" Muslims would be doing this. That is unthinkable - where is NYTimes defending Malaysia's actions?

I still don't get why so many gays tolerate Islam, though I've noticed it has been seeming to decline. A PC whitewash only lasts so long.

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"I still don't get why so many gays tolerate Islam...."

Maybe because homosexuality is so wide-spread in Islam, and is permissable as long as the object of one's affections is still beardless: an unending stream of adolescent boys -- the dream of many homosexuals.
And then the impetus toward homosexuality is built into Islam, with it permission of bigamy. Every man who takes another wife means another man without a wife. In theory the wealthiest 25% of men could take all of the women, at the maximum permissable 4 wives each. Leaving 75% to do without. No wonder homosexuality is so common in Islamic countries.
An alternative is bestiality, which is also very popular in Islamic countries.
As for AIDS, it would be interesting to see accurate figures on the number of cases in Moslem countries.

Tip: Painting gays as pedophiles won't make you many allies. Your typical gay will see your comment, say "see how ignorant these people are" and not read any further. No gays I know of have even heard of "Pashtun Sexuality" anyway. If what you say were true, why aren't gays converting to Islam and emigrating en-masse to Afghanistan.

Contrary to what you might think, the vast, vast, majority of gays do not desire little boys any more than the vast vast majority of straights who desire little girls.

What goes on in Afghanistan is not true homosexuality anyway. They don't necessarily prefer males. They're just more available, and if you've read the report on Pashtun sexuality, that's exactly what it says. It *is* possible some might continue to prefer boys even after they gain a wife, but that's more likely due to a cycle of abuse and a cultural (and religious) tolerance for the behavior than anything else. In that culture, having a boy is like having a Mercedes. It's a status symbol.

Were the women not all dressed up in trash bags, it wouldn't likely be a problem... The same with abuse in the Catholic Church. If priests could get married, they wouldn't take their sexual frustration out on innocent little boys (again, more available).

Almighty Allah has failed to protect Islam from gays, lesbians, bisexuals, and transexuals...

they do not tolerate islam. they have no choice but to deal with it.
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You know I find that all the homosexual people I talk to who know about Islam are right on the same page as me - a red-neck Bible believing, water-baptised, tongues-speaking Christian. Its a nice experience to for once not be seen as a homophobe by these dear people. We both know that we'd be swinging from the same lamp post if we ever fell under Sharia law.

On a personal note: I'm afraid the only people I've been reasonably close to who decided (or turned, or reverted) they were homosexual were men who abandoned their families and the one I was closest to actually did have a huge appetite for adolescent boys - many of whose lives he destroyed in the process of his "liberation".

That's merely my experience, but it is my experience.

Nevertheless, again personally, I am happy to work with everyone to ensure we live to discuss these things another day. The presenting problem is the Religion of Peace! (TM)

All the best

I understand from past postings by Gravenimage (who lives in San Francisco) that one of her staunchest and savviest allies in the Resistance in her part of the world is a/ gay and b/ Jewish.

"What goes on in Afghanistan is not true homosexuality anyway. They don't necessarily prefer males. They're just more available, and if you've read the report on Pashtun sexuality, that's exactly what it says"

And if you'd read my post, you'd have seen that that's one of the things I said.

We should send this QuAIA or "Queers United Against Israeli Apartheid." If they're not already brain dead, they may consider changing their target. Nah, they are too cowardly to stand against the real oppressors: They can only pick on those who they know will NOT persecute them while making them feel self righteous.

Liam said - "On a personal note: I'm afraid the only people I've been reasonably close to who decided (or turned, or reverted) they were homosexual were men who abandoned their families and the one I was closest to actually did have a huge appetite for adolescent boys - many of whose lives he destroyed in the process of his "liberation"

...my ex (who abandoned my son and me recently) seemed a little too interested in handsome males on tv, etc. and I found he looked at the gaypron, as well as the regular, often when the regular stuff gets too boring, they venture into ever more risque (or sicker) stuff
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But I agree with gayzionist on the point that the pedophile priests may have been drawn into this because they were not allowed to marry. The Bible does NOT anywhere prohibit Christians in positions of authority to marry, even the apostle Peter was a married man

"Repented" transsexuals? Rehab? What an ugly mess.

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