More on the Slaughtered Convert to Christianity

I just received an email from the editor of a large website, who posted my story from yesterday about the slaughtered apostate. He writes:

The story generated a huge number of commentaries from readers, some of them originating from Muslim Countries. They harshly dispute and deny the veracity of the facts you mention in your paper. Some argue that this abomination did not take place in Tunisia—and I do believe so—but somewhere in Iraq, that the young man is not a Christian but a Shiite, that he was not slaughtered for apostasy but for being a spy of the Americans, and so on… It's true that the facts are not properly documented : we don't know even the date of this event, the place, the name of this unfortunate young man… Do you have any additional details and data to help answering ? Many thanks for your kind and urgent attention.
I responded with a quick list of facts, which I repost here, enlarged and augmented, for anyone else interested:

• Fact 1: The Egyptian TV host, who recently aired this video—which went viral on the Arabic blogosphere on Sunday, when I wrote my report—said this occurred in Tunisia. Yes, others have subsequently said that this was in Iraq, others in Syria; but, from what people have sent me, the only “evidence” is the same video—only with a title that indicates Iraq or Syria. Personally, I am inclined to believe a formal Arabic current events program devoted to the topic than an anonymous Internet posting with no further details. Either way, the issue is less which country, and more why the man was slaughtered. Read on.
• Fact 2: The Muslim narrator who speaks while the man is being slaughtered specifically names and continually condemns “apostasy”—the crime of leaving Islam—and even calls the executed man an apostate, i.e., the man is being slaughtered for apostasy, a capital offence in Islam. (If the world is not surprised that the actual “government” of a Muslim nation, Iran, is preparing to execute a man simply for converting to Christianity, are we supposed to be surprised when roaming bands of jihadis take it upon themselves to execute apostates to Christianity in their midst?)
• Fact 3: The Muslim narrator specifically names and condemns al-mushrikin, and calls the executed man a mushrik—i.e., a “polytheist”; in fact, he calls him a mushrik murtadd, an “apostate to polytheism": this is the standard appellation for Christians, who are regularly called polytheists for “associating” Jesus with God. Yes, there are other religions deemed polytheistic in Islam, such as Hinduism, but one rarely if ever hears of Muslims in the Middle East converting to, and dying for, Hinduism, whereas conversion to Christianity—will all the attendant consequences—is a regular occurrence. Moreover, the overwhelming majority of cases--from one end of the Muslim world to the other--of attacks, imprisonments, etc. deal with Muslim converts to Christianity (see my monthly Muslim Persecution of Christians reports for an idea.
• Fact 4: My contacts in the Middle East, many well-connected with the doings of the region, regularly see and hear of such things, and are confident that he was beheaded for converting to Christianity. The reader is free to hold their opinions as biased or subjective; but if so, why hold the protests of Muslim apologists, equally biased and subjective, as more authoritative--especially in light of history, doctrine, and ongoing current events, which support the former opinion?
• Fact 5: Muslim apologists always deny anything and everything that makes Islam look bad and will, naturally, try to put the best spin on this video—turning the victim into the aggressor, portraying him as a “traitor,” a “spy,” etc.—just like the Iranian regime, after unequivocally stating that Pastor Nadarkhani is to be executed for converting to Christianity, began backtracking by saying he is to be executed for being a “Zionist spy,” an “extortionist,” etc.

At day's end—and here is the most indisputable fact—we are left with a man having his head hacked off while his murderers scream Islamic slogans and accuse him of apostasy.

Raymond Ibrahim is a Shilliman Fellow at the David Horowitz Freedom Center and an Associate Fellow at the Middle East Forum.

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There you are Shelley, try to wriggle out of that one: .....Iran, is preparing to execute a man simply for converting to Christianity, (so) are we supposed to be surprised when roaming bands of jihadis take it upon themselves to execute apostates to Christianity in their midst?

Too true!

The reason I doubt the sourcing of this is that the audio is 'too' clear as well as the fact that it was ID'd as coming out of Syria at least a month ago. Another significant fact is that the "Eyptian Television Host" was formerly a liberal running for president. This came out very conveniently after there was an election that results in the pitting of a fellow (Mubarek)secularist against a religious Muslim candidate. The timing looks dirty to me-it looks like POLITICS-trying to scare Masri's away from the Brotherhood candidate. All that being said-It might be completely authentic. Of course I, as a Muslim do not want to believe that this was an act of religious persecution. No Muslim that I would want to know would applaud such an act under ANY circumstances.

What I would like is to know the provenance of this video. I would really like it to be completely faked, but I am not naive. No credible newsperson would put this up and comment on it without some background knowledge. All your "facts" are really just speculation. In the NYT, this, undocumented, would not make it past the first editor.
Thank you.

So, so far you are telling me it happened in Syria, OR Tunisia, OR Iraq? Well, we can just place our bets, with that kind of "proof", that the whole story is completely true, right?

The only wriggler here is you. You post this without a SHRED of proof, and when called on to support it, all you can do is give me your five (non) facts. Wriggle on. . .

"All your 'facts' are really just speculation."

The above comment by Shelly shows the mixed-up mohammedan mindset ...

where facts are speculation, and speculation become facts. Yes, this kind of ridiculous response is all in a days work for the mixed-up mohammedan slave of allah.

"Shelly" wrote:

Of course I, as a Muslim do not want to believe that this was an act of religious persecution.
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Why? Because you condemn the oppression of apostates and Infidels and the violence against them under Shari'ah, or because such horrors make "Islam look bad", which is inconvenient since Islam is not in full ascendancy all over the world?

More:

...the "Eyptian Television Host" was formerly a liberal running for president. This came out very conveniently after there was an election that results in the pitting of a fellow (Mubarek)secularist against a religious Muslim candidate. The timing looks dirty to me-it looks like POLITICS-trying to scare Masri's away from the Brotherhood candidate.
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And what is the position of the Muslim Brotherhood on apostasy?

Here you go, from the Muslim Brotherhood-linked European Council for Fatwa and Research:

Fatwa from Muslim Brotherhood: “The Apostate Is Killed in Order to Protect the Religion”

"The issue of killing the apostate is a function of the state...[The apostate] is killed in order to protect the religion and the community from his corruption..."

http://1389blog.com/2011/03/21/fatwa-from-muslim-brotherhood-the-apostate-is-killed-in-order-to-protect-the-religion/

Is this your candidate? You lovingly describe the 'Brotherhood candidate' as a "a religious Muslim candidate", after all. Chilling.

"You post this without a SHRED of proof, and when called on to support it, all you can do is give me your five (non) facts"

the verbal diarrhea continues, from this muslim troll - of course, this troll has never presented any facts at all in any conversation I have seen. Such inane nonsense, about how its granny was a freakish bigot are hardly facts, that would educate anyone.

Shelly sez: " The timing looks dirty to me-"

When would the timing be right to behead Muslim converts to Christianity?

shelly: where are you from? you say you are a muslim. as a muslim you would not this to be an act of persecution. I was born and raised a muslim. most muslims the ones that do not condon or approve of violenca na dpersecution on minorities think exactly the way you do. my own family as well. when I present this question to my family back home(iran) that the minorities, homo sexuals, bombings killing innocent people, riots, fatwas etc... their answer is they are not muslims. good muslims do not commit such an act. the fact is they commit those acts because they are going right by the book. it seems to me that you are having a hard time drawing the line. you want every thing to be happily ever after and it is not. devoute muslims, the ones that go right by the book not only have no probelms persecutiing minirities, they see it as their duty to muhamd as well allah may peace be upon him!! so, if may suggest, please wake up and smell the bull shit. either you are going to see the light of what islam is and take action and I by no mean saying you should not practice islam. but what you must od is to renounce 90% of the koran that teaches violence against minorities, women homosexuals etc...
M

You wrote: 'Of course I, as a Muslim do not want to believe that this was an act of religious persecution.'

You don't want to believe this execution was religious persecution! Who d'you think you're kidding? Read Al Qur'an! It's full of religious persecution! Non-Muslims are the 'vilest of creatures' according to the Qur'an 8:55. And Al Qur'an calls for the genocide of the Jews, too. It's Sunna! The genocide of the Jewish Banu Qurayza Tribe in 627 AD was the example given by Al-Insan al-Kamil for all Muslims to follow.

Fortunately, the readers of JW are not fooled by clowns like you!

Oh Christ, another troll in Shelly. This is so tedious, what with excessive parsing and word games and making those who criticize Islam into the bad guys even though almost 19,000 documented Islamic terrorist attacks worldwide have occurred just since 9/11 (never mind the tens of thousands that have been thwarted by security and intelligence agencies during this same time period). Even though millions upon millions (actually billions) of dollars have been spent by Western governments and other governments for security at places like airports and other transportation facilities, shopping centers, schools, etc. PRECISELY becasue of Islamic terrorism. Even though it is the case that the percentage of non-Muslim religious believers who engage in terrorism in the name of their faith is practically non-existent. Even though Islamic doctrine has directives in it, such as death for apostasy and severe harm or death for criticism of Islam or Mohammed, which are directly contray to Western concepts of freedom of religion and freedom of speech and certainly contrary to the First Amendment of the American Constitution. Even though Islamic nations are desultory places which even many Muslims do their best to leave so they can enjoy the freedoms and opportunities in non-Muslim nations which are minimal or non-existent in Muslim countries. Even though it should be obvious to anyone who has kept their built-in crap detector they were born with in fine tune and who has taken the time to study the character of Mohammed, whether he was real, fictional or a composite, that it is one which is replete with repulsive and profoundly disturbing aspects. Even though...Even though...

Tired of the same old Joseph Goebbels shit whereby a Muslim tries to tell us that we're the aggressors, we're the bigots, we're the culprits, Muslims are the victims and Islam is just wonderful and so enlightened if only we would open are closed minds and see it for the beautiful, sapient religion that it is. Yep, tired of this shit.

I dedicate this song to Shelly, the wriggling clown ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSkv_29Rncg

Dear Raymond Ibrahim, May I post this article verbatim on other sites?

exsgtbrown wrote:

Shelly sez: " The timing looks dirty to me-"

When would the timing be right to behead Muslim converts to Christianity?
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Devastating comment, exsgtbrown.

Yo Shelley,

A book approved and officially certified by an Islamic University, Al-Azhar Reliance of the Traveller: The Classic Manual of Islamic Sacred Law Umdat Al-Salik:

Sections o8.0, o8.1, o8.2, o8.4

o8.0: "Leaving Islam is the ugliest form of unbelief (kufr) and the worst."

08.1: "When a person ... vountarily apostatizes from Islam, he deserves to be killed."

o8.2: "... it is obligatory for the caliph (or his representative) to ask him to repent and return to Islam ...if he refuses, he is immediately killed.

o8.4: "There is no indemnity for killing an apostate (or any expiation, since it is killing someone who deserves toi die)."

Also from page 584
"...killing an apostate from Islam is without consequences."

Also straight from an Imam, about the penalty for apostacy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XRCYlZ4XOQ&feature=fvwp

But what do they know right, Shelley? I'm sure your credentials are for interpreting Sharia law, is far greater than this Imam and the scholars at Al-Azhar.

This is odd. How many different people have now posted as "D"?

Shelly,

Verifying the particulars about this story is indeed important. However, you don't seem to be challenging the basic apparent facts in this case, i.e., that what we are seeing in the video is actually a Muslim cutting the head of a subdued and defenseless non-Muslim. Do you dispute this basic premise?

You wrote:
"No Muslim that I would want to know would applaud such an act under ANY circumstances."

1. In that case, you don't want to know Muhammad or Allah.

Some beheadings ordered or inspired by Muhammad:

Sunan Abu Dawud, Book 14, Number 2756:
Narrated Abdullah ibn Mas'ud:
Harithah ibn Mudarrib said that he came to Abdullah ibn Mas'ud and said (to him): There is no enmity between me and any of the Arabs. I passed a mosque of Banu Hanifah. They (the people) believed in Musaylimah. Abdullah (ibn Mas'ud) sent for them. They were brought, and he asked them to repent, except Ibn an-Nawwahah. He said to him: I heard the Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) say: Were it not that you were not a messenger, I would behead you. But today you are not a messenger. He then ordered Qarazah ibn Ka'b (to kill him). He beheaded him in the market. Anyone who wants to see Ibn an-Nawwahah slain in the market (he may see him).

Ishaq, p. 369
“The apostle said, 'Kill any Jew who falls under your power.' Thereupon Muhayyisa b. Mas'ud leapt upon Ibn Sunayna, a Jewish merchant with whom they had social and business relations, and killed him. Huwayyisa was not a Muslim at the time though he was the elder brother. When Muhayyisa killed him Huwayyisa began to beat him saying, 'You enemy of God, did you kill him when much fat on your belly comes from his wealth?' Muhayyisa answered, 'Had the one who ordered me to kill him ordered me to kill you I would have cut your head off.' He said that this was the beginning of Huwayyisa's acceptance of Islam. The other replied, 'By God, if Muhammad had ordered you to kill me you would have killed me?' He said, 'Yes, by God, had he ordered me to cut off your head I would have done so.' He exclaimed, 'By God, a religion that can bring you to this is marvellous!' and he became a Muslim.”

Assassination of Ka'b bin Ashraf
Ishaq, p. 367-8 [my brackets]
The apostle said...'Who will rid me of Ibnu'l-Ashraf?' Muhammad b. Maslama...said, 'I will deal with him for you, O apostle of God, I will kill him.' [Maslama and his associates then deceived Ka'b, gaining his confidence, then killed him]
"...they smote him, and their swords clashed over him with no effect. Muhammad b. Maslama said, 'I remembered my dagger when I saw that our swords were useless, and I seized it. Meanwhile the enemy of God had made such a noise that every fort around us was showing a light. I thrust it into the lower part of his body, then I bore down upon it until I reached his genitals, and the enemy of God fell to the ground....Our attack upon God's enemy cast terror among the Jews, and there was no Jew in Medina who did not fear for his life.'

"We carried Ka’b’s head and brought it to Muhammad during the night. We saluted him as he stood praying and told him that we had slain Allah’s enemy. When he came out to us we cast Ashraf’s head before his feet. The Prophet praised Allah that the poet had been assassinated and complimented us on the good work we had done in Allah’s Cause. Our attack upon Allah’s enemy cast terror among the Jews, and there was no Jew in Medina who did not fear for his life.’"
Tabari VII 97

Torture and beheading of Kinana b. al-Rabi
Ishaq, p 515
"Kinana b. al-Rabi', who had the custody of the treasure of B. al-Nadir, was brought to the apostle who asked him about it. He denied that he knew where it was. A Jew came (T. was brought) to the apostle and said that he had seen Kinana going round a certain ruin every morning early. When the apostle said to Kinana, 'Do you know that if we find you have it I shall kill you?' he said Yes. The apostle gave orders that the ruin was to be excavated and some of the treasure was found. When he asked him about the rest he refused to produce it, so the apostle gave orders to al-Zubayr b. al-'Awwam, 'Torture him until you extract what he has,' so he kindled a fire with flint and steel on his chest until he was nearly dead. Then the apostle delivered him to Muhammad b. Maslama and he struck off his head in revenge for his brother Mahmud."

Massacre, Muhammad orders beheading of the Jewish Banu Qurayza males who had reached puberty:
"The Messenger commanded that furrows should be dug in the ground for the Qurayza. Then he sat down. Ali and Zubayr began cutting off their heads in his presence."
Tabari VIII 40
"The Messenger of Allah commanded that all of the Jewish men and boys who had reached puberty should be beheaded. Then the Prophet divided the wealth, wives, and children of the Banu Qurayza Jews among the Muslims."
Tabari VIII 38
"Then the apostle went to the market of Medina (which is still its market today) and dug trenches in it. Then he sent for them and struck off their heads in those trenches as they were brought out to him in batches [...] There were 600 or 700 of them in all, though some put the figure as high as 800 or 900 [...] This went on until the apostle made an end of them"
Ishaq, 464

Massacre of Banu Qurayza, continued, Muslim beheads distraught traumatized Jewish woman:
"Narrated Aisha, Ummul Mu'minin: No woman of Banu Qurayzah was killed except one. She was with me, talking and laughing on her back and belly (extremely), while the Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) was killing her people with the swords. Suddenly a man called her name: Where is so-and-so? She said: I asked: What is the matter with you? She said: I did a new act. She said: The man took her and beheaded her. She said: I will not forget that she was laughing extremely although she knew that she would be killed. (Sunan Abu Dawud, Book #14, Hadith #2665)

Jihadist poetry quoted in Muhammad's biography
Ishaq, p. 531.
"Get out of his way, you unbelievers, make way.
Every good thing goes with His apostle.
O Lord I believe in his word,
I know God’s truth in accepting it.
We will fight you about its interpretation
As we have fought you about its revelation
With strokes that will remove heads from shoulders
And make friend unmindful of friend."

Ishaq, p. 580.
“…By us God’s religion is undeniably strong.
We added a like number to the clan that was with him.
When we came to Mecca, our banner
Was like an eagle soaring to dart on its prey
(Riding) on horses which gazed upwards.
You would think when they gallop in their bits there is the sound of jinn among them,
The day we trod down the unbelievers
And found no deviation or turning from the apostle’s order.
In a battle mid which the people heard only
Our exhortations to fight and the smashing of skulls
By swords that sent heads flying from their base
And severed the necks of warriors at a blow.
Often we have left the slain cut to pieces
And a widow crying Alas! Over her husband.
‘Tis God not man we seek to please;
To Him belongs the seen and unseen.”

Hadith:
"Whosoever disputes a single verse of the Qur'an, strike off his head." Source: "Ibn Maja, Sunan Ibn I Majah (Lahore, 1995), Arabic with English translation by M. Tufail Ansari, Bab al-Hudud, Al-Islam.com, accessed July 5, 2006", cited in
http://www.meforum.org/article/1000
Why Do Muslims Execute Innocent People?

Beheading threatened to force conversion to Islam at swordpoint, under Muhammad's direct supervision:

Ishaq, p. 547 [my brackets]
"[Ibn 'Abbas] said [to Abu Sufyan] 'If he [the apostle, Muhammad] takes you he will behead you, so ride on the back of this mule so that I can take you to him and ask you for his protection.' [...] [Ibn 'Abbas] dismounted and went into the apostle and 'Umar came in saying [...] 'Let me take off his head.' [...] He [the apostle] said: "Woe to you Abu Sufyan, isn't it time that you recognize that I am God's apostle?" He [Abu Sufyan] answered, "As to that I still have some doubt." [Ibn Abbas] said to [Sufyan], "Submit and testify that there is no God but Allah and that Muhammad is the apostle of God before you lose your head," so [Sufyan] did so.

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Beheadings by Allah or by Allah's permission:

Q 8:12 "When your Lord revealed to the angels: I am with you, therefore make firm those who believe. I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them.[...]
8:17 "So you did not slay them, but it was Allah Who slew them, and you did not smite when you smote (the enemy), but it was Allah Who smote, and that He might confer upon the believers a good gift from Himself; surely Allah is Hearing, Knowing."

Q 9:14 "Fight them, Allah will punish them by your hands and bring them to disgrace, and assist you against them and heal the hearts of a believing people."

Q 3:145 "And a soul will not die but with the permission of Allah the term is fixed; and whoever desires the reward of this world, I shall give him of it, and whoever desires the reward of the hereafter I shall give him of it, and I will reward the grateful."

Hence, any Muslim who believes the Quran and understands this clear verse must logically believe that Allah permitted the beheading in that video; no deaths can occur except by Allah's permission.

Al-Jalalayn, 8:12: "When your Lord inspired the angels, with whom He reinforced the Muslims, [saying]: ‘I am with you, with assistance and victorious help, so make the believers stand firm, by helping [them] and giving [them] good tidings. I shall cast terror, fear, into the hearts of the disbelievers; so smite above the necks, that is, the heads, and smite of them every finger!’, that is, [smite] the extremities of their hands and feet: thus, when one of them went to strike a disbeliever’s head, it would roll off before his sword reached it. The Prophet (s) threw a handful of pebbles against them and every single idolater was struck in his eye, and thus they were defeated."

Ibn Abbas: "[...] (Then smite the necks) their heads (and smite of them each finger) each shaped finger."

Ibn Kathir, 8:12
Allah commands the Angels to fight and support the Believers
http://www.qtafsir.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1560&Itemid=63

"(I will cast terror into the hearts of those who have disbelieved.) means, `you -- angels -- support the believers, strengthen their (battle) front against their enemies, thus, implementing My command to you. I will cast fear, disgrace and humiliation over those who defied My command and denied My Messenger,

﴿فَاضْرِبُواْ فَوْقَ الأَعْنَـقِ وَاضْرِبُواْ مِنْهُمْ كُلَّ بَنَانٍ﴾

(so strike them over the necks, and smite over all their fingers and toes.) strike them on their foreheads to tear them apart and over the necks to cut them off, and cut off their limbs, hands and feet. It was said that,

﴿فَوْقَ الأَعْنَـقِ﴾

(over the necks) refers to striking the forehead, or the neck, according to Ad-Dahhak and `Atiyyah Al-`Awfi. In support of the latter, Allah commanded the believers,

﴿فَإِذَا لَقِيتُمُ الَّذِينَ كَفَرُواْ فَضَرْبَ الرِّقَابِ حَتَّى إِذَآ أَثْخَنتُمُوهُمْ فَشُدُّواْ الْوَثَاقَ﴾

(So, when you meet (in fight Jihad in Allah's cause) those who disbelieve, smite (their) necks till when you have killed and wounded many of them, then bind a bond firmly (on them, take them as captives).) ﴿47:4﴾

Ar-Rabi` bin Anas said, "In the aftermath of Badr, the people used to recognize whomever the angels killed from those whom they killed, by the wounds over their necks, fingers and toes, because those parts had a mark as if they were branded by fire.'' Allah said,

﴿وَاضْرِبُواْ مِنْهُمْ كُلَّ بَنَانٍ﴾

(and smite over all their fingers and toes.)

Ibn Jarir commented that this Ayah commands, "O believers! Strike every limb and finger on the hands and feet of your (disbelieving) enemies.'' Al-`Awfi reported, that Ibn `Abbas said about the battle of Badr that Abu Jahl said, "Do not kill them (the Muslims), but capture them so that you make known to them what they did, their ridiculing your religion and shunning Al-Lat and Al-`Uzza (two idols).'' Allah than sent down to the angels,

﴿أَنِّي مَعَكُمْ فَثَبِّتُواْ الَّذِينَ ءَامَنُواْ سَأُلْقِى فِي قُلُوبِ الَّذِينَ كَفَرُواْ الرُّعْبَ فَاضْرِبُواْ فَوْقَ الأَعْنَـقِ وَاضْرِبُواْ مِنْهُمْ كُلَّ بَنَانٍ﴾

(Verily, I am with you, so keep firm those who have believed. I will cast terror into the hearts of those who have disbelieved, so strike them over the necks, and smite over all their fingers and toes.)

In that battle, Abu Jahl (may Allah curse him) was killed along with sixty-nine men. `Uqbah bin Abu Mua`it was captured and then killed, thus bring the death toll of the pagans to seventy,

﴿ذَلِكَ بِأَنَّهُمْ شَآقُّواْ اللَّهَ وَرَسُولَهُ﴾

(This is because they defied and disobeyed Allah and His Messenger.) joining the camp that defied Allah and His Messenger not including themselves in the camp of Allah's Law and faith in Him. Allah said,

﴿وَمَن يُشَاقِقِ اللَّهَ وَرَسُولَهُ فَإِنَّ اللَّهَ شَدِيدُ الْعِقَابِ﴾

(And whoever defies and disobeys Allah and His Messenger, then verily, Allah is severe in punishment.) for He will crush whoever defies and disobeys Him. Nothing ever escapes Allah's grasp nor can anything ever stand against His anger. Blessed and exalted He is, there is no true deity or Lord except Him.

﴿ذَلِكُمْ فَذُوقُوهُ وَأَنَّ لِلْكَـفِرِينَ عَذَابَ النَّارِ ﴾

(This is (the torment), so taste it; and surely, for the disbelievers is the torment of the Fire.)

This Ayah addresses the disbeliever, saying, taste this torment and punishment in this life and know that the torment of the Fire in the Hereafter is for the disbelievers."

Useful reference on beheading in Islam, written by Timothy Furnish
http://www.meforum.org/713/beheading-in-the-name-of-islam

Beheadings by Muslims in modern times

http://www.aina.org/news/20061012004656.htm
Islamic Group Beheads Assyrian Priest, Crucifies 14 Year Old Boy in North Iraq

Sudan: Editor Accused of Insulting Muhammed Is Beheaded
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/013017.php

Sudan: Beheading fatwa issued
“On the floor of the United Nations in Geneva, Switzerland (2003)...a detailed terrorism report was filed with the United Nations by 3 dozen human rights activists and it was confirmed on page 81 of this report (The World's Most Oppressive Regimes) that a sharia court in Khartoum, Sudan had found Kola Boof guilty of treason and blasphemy and had issued a "FATWA" death sentence against her life...ordering that she be beheaded for the books she wrote and for her public condemnation of slavery, misogyny and terrorism in North Africa."

http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/015574.php
Filipino Muslims with banner reading: “Behead those who insult Islam.”

More beheadings (and crucifixions)
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/world/20070418-1015-saudi-crime-koran.html
Excerpts:
"RIYADH – An Egyptian living in Saudi Arabia has been sentenced to death for desecrating the Koran and renouncing Islam, Saudi newspapers and a rights activist said on Wednesday.

Four Sri Lankans were publicly beheaded then displayed on wooden crosses in February for armed robbery after what U.S.-based Human Rights Watch called a sham trial."

http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/017057.php
Rage about Rushdie: After the British knighting of Salman Rushdie, Islamic protests around the world:
Pakistani traders' association offers 10 million rupees for beheading of Salman Rushdie.

http://in.news.yahoo.com/070912/139/6kncy.html
Terrorists threaten to behead Madonna, Britney

http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/002362.php
Andrew Bostom. Textbook Jihad
"Studies in Theology: Tradition and Morals, Grade 11, (2001) pp. 291-92 ...This noble [Qur'anic] Surah [Surat Muhammad]... deals with questions of which the most important are as follows: 'Encouraging the faithful to perform jihad in God's cause, to behead the infidels, take them prisoner, break their power, and make their souls humble - all that in a style which contains the highest examples of urging to fight. You see that in His words: "When you meet the unbelievers in the battlefield strike off their heads and, when you have laid them low, bind your captives firmly. Then grant them their freedom or take a ransom from them, until war shall lay down its burdens.'"
"Commentary on the Surahs of Muhammad, Al-Fath, Al-Hujurat and Qaf, Grade 11, (2002) p. 9 …When you meet them in order to fight [them], do not be seized by compassion [towards them] but strike the[ir] necks powerfully.... Striking the neck means fighting, because killing a person is often done by striking off his head. Thus, it has become an expression for killing even if the fighter strikes him elsewhere. This expression contains a harshness and emphasis that are not found in the word "kill", because it describes killing in the ugliest manner, i.e., cutting the neck and making the organ - the head of the body - fly off [the body].'"

Bouyeri (the killer of Van Gogh) said:
"I was motivated by the law that commands me to cut off the head of anyone who insults Allah and his prophet."

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2. Your appeals to anecdotal lack of knowledge do not change the facts that Muslims currently carry out far more beheadings than anyone else, that beheadings are approved in Islamic law for sharia punishments and in jihad, that beheadings are commanded in the Quran and glorified in the Hadith and Sira. Muslim-produced videos involving images of Muslims beheading non-Muslims are popular in the Islamic world.

You wrote:
"All your "facts" are really just speculation. In the NYT, this, undocumented, would not make it past the first editor.
Thank you."

Don't believe everything you read there:

Jayson Blair
http://articles.cnn.com/2003-05-13/us/ny.times.investigation_1_jayson-blair-new-york-times-reporter-national-reporter?_s=PM:US

Scott Shane
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2011/07/killings-in-norway-spotlight-anti-muslim.html

NYTimes editors are not good for anything regarding Islam except making sure that only stories that flatter Islam and attack Islam critics are fit to print.

I was speaking to one video that you presented as being one thing-or another, or another. YOu want to put this on all of Islam because of a voiceover. Was it done by Muslims? Maybe. Was it done to a Christian? Maybe. Or was it done to a Syrian rebel? Could be! Or was it done BY a syrian rebel? Well, the thing is, none of us know. You don't. The newscaster doesn't. And yet you are criticizing me for questioning your facts. That is what happens typically. I saw people ranting on (you can still find them) about a little boy who "stole" something and had his hand run over by a car as a "sharia" punishment. WELL, that isn't a sharia punishment EVER for a child, it isn't a sharia punishment EVER for ANYONE and it turns out that it was some stunt-a joke being played on people. So, you had people ranting on and on about how awful Islam is when they had nothing. Even when shown the Snopes site, they'd believe a lie about Islam because it is WHAT THEY WANT TO BELIEVE. I am open to hear the fact on this. YOU simply have none. Khalas!

You wrote: 'Was it done by Muslims? Maybe.'

Well, all the content of the video fits precisely with Islam's agenda as per Al Qur'an; but the real clincher is the common sense fact that no one would willingly allow their head to be cut off just to make Islam look bad! You're seriously crazy if you think that!

The people wielding the knife are Muslims. The victim is not!
Khalas!

Muslims lie. That what they do. Well, that and looting, raping, necromancy, misogyny, paedophilia, idolatry, and murder. And whine about being the innocent victims.

@ Shelly -

Looks like Kinana of Khaybar has given you a lot of information. What is your response to it? Or are you going to do like I see happening every time in these discussions on Islam (or other topics), which is when facts are given, the person being confronted runs away, never to be heard from again?

(At least until the next incident when they begin all over again.) Honestly, it gets tiresome to go through all the effort of providing information, only to have it completely ignored.

What say you, Shelly?

THE
"Muslim brotherhood" has NO AUTHORITY to issue FATWAs! Scholars may (but half the fatwas you ever hear about (at least) are not from any real scholars).

"Shelly" wrote:

THE
"Muslim brotherhood" has NO AUTHORITY to issue FATWAs! Scholars may (but half the fatwas you ever hear about (at least) are not from any real scholars).
...................................

And yet, the savage blood-letting of Islam never ends...really, it's a mystery of our times...sarc/off

Impressive list there K.K.

Based on the list, it sounds like Al-Azhar should be publishing a companion to "The Reliance of the Traveller. Perhaps the title should be "How to get ahead in Islam." Maybe "Apostates, the shortened version".

For the benefit of anyone who may have googled their way in here, and is new to this site and this subject:

there are two definitive examinations, by reputable non-Muslim scholars, of the Law of Apostasy in Islam - that is, the punishment that sharia lays down, for those who leave Islam either for atheism or for another religion.

The first is by Samuel Zwemer, and it is called simply 'The Law of Apostasy In Islam'. If you google about you will find the whole thing on the internet and can read it for free.

It examines the texts, their interpretations by Islamic 'jurists' and 'theologians', and how they have panned out in practice down through the centuries to the time of writing (early 20th century).

The second is by an apostate from Islam, now a Christian, Canon Dr Patrick Sookhdeo, resident in the UK. It is called 'Freedom to Believe: Challenging Islam's Apostasy Law'. Like Zwemer, it examines what Islamic texts say about the punishment for apostasy from Islam, and how these have panned out in practice, past and present, including within modern Muslim colonies in non-Muslim countries, today. Very illuminating. And devastating.

Sookhdeo himself was very, very lucky: when he announced that he had become a Christian, his pious 'moderate' Muslim parents did not kill him nor send a hit squad after him, they simply threw him out of the house onto the streets of London in the clothes he stood up in.

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