UK: Two converts to Islam arrested for misunderstanding their peaceful religion, plotting jihad terror attacks

Yet still no Muslim organization in the West does the slightest thing to prevent other Muslims from misunderstanding Islam in the same way. "APNewsbreak: 2 terror suspects arrested in London," by Raphael Satter and Paisley Dodds for the Associated Press, June 28 (thanks to Holly):

LONDON (AP) — Two Muslim converts were arrested in London on suspicion of terror offenses Thursday, a British security official told The Associated Press, but it was unclear whether the men were taken into custody as part of an alleged plot.

The official, who spoke on condition of anonymity he was not authorized to discuss the matter publicly, said he didn't know whether the arrests were related to the upcoming Olympic Games. Security is tight ahead of the London games, which begin on July 27....

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London is in Lock Down.
Eyes & Ears are everywhere.

Mind you aren't next Jim:-)

Saudi Arabia should be billed for the security costs not just for the Olympics, but for ALL western airport and other anti-Jihad security costs since 9/11/2001.

Or, if they don't like that, I suggest we bill them trillions to ..."protect" ... the Kabaa and the Holy Mosque.

You know, I'd love to see some grainy, b&w footage of the piece of lucky meteorite in the cross-hairs of a laser-guided bomb-sight...

I can't see that it's brought much luck to anybody?

Cheers for that, greenpen. . It's been a long and rocky road, but I've paid my dues and the poacher is now a gamekeeper. . :-)

Islam is the only political ideology in global history that's survived for 1400 years. Nothing else gets anywhere near it, let alone equals it. Hitler dreamt of a 1000 year Reich, but Islam's been there, done that, got the t-shirt - and then some.

I'd say that's lucky.

That's nice to hear Jim. Good luck and watch out for special branch.

I had a cat named Lucky. . It ran out one morning and got squashed by a bus, and with tears in me eyes, I scraped his ginger remains into a dustpan and we gave him a Viking funeral in the garden.

Special Branch know me as well as Wainwright knew The Lake District. :-) Thanks anyway mate.

I'd almost bet my shirt that one of them has a ginger hair and a ginger beard - we'll see.

I'm having a bet with myself that the 19 year old is the ginger idiot from the south coast featured on a TV prog last year and often seen in the muslim demos. The older bloke - likely another of those featured in the same programme.

I have an e-clippings file that I call 'The Dangerous Convert', into which I place all those stories of persons who join up with the Mohammedan Mob and then eagerly recruit themselves or are recruited for full-on Combat Jihad.

The file is getting fatter and fatter as more and more losers and sociopaths from the Western world (and elsewhere) decide that Islam offers a route by which they may achieve and wield raw power without any pesky constraints of conscience.

I haven't done a count yet, of how many individuals are represented in the dossier so far, but in its raw form - which includes not only the reports but copies of those parts of the ensuing discussions here and elsewhere that I thought worth keeping - it runs to some 700 pages; there's no way I'd ever try to print off the whole thing onto paper.

Perhaps this weekend I'll read through it and do a head count of the perps, and see what it adds up to.

Muslims obviously

It strikes me that the Singapore model - requiring that all converts to Islam should be registered - has much to recommend it.

But failing that, it is up to the ordinary citizens.

If a family member, friend, neighbour, classmate, workmate, golfing buddy, team-mate, *anybody* within your social circle ostentatiously converts to Islam and starts wearing the Slave Rag (if female) or growing a Mohammedan beard-without-moustache (if male), then: beware. And keep tabs on them. If they don't completely cut off contact; then stay in contact, as much as you can, so you can see what they're up to. Find out - if you can, oh-so-casually - what mosque they attend, how big it is, what kind of people are there, who the imam is (and other head serangs), who they're hanging with, whether and what kinds of Islamic texts they're reading. Indeed, if you're game, you could always pretend to be interested in the da'wa, and mosey along to their mosque *with* them, just to sus it out. Ask them when, where, how and why they converted to Islam, and who witnessed their Shahada - if they're an enthusiastic new convert they will probably be happy to tell you. And keep a private record of all this information; just in case.

(If they're a friend or family member, of course, one of your motives is for their wellbeing, for *you* know that they have just joined a Death Cult/Crime Syndicate, and that they are likely to become a danger not only to themselves but to others. If they've converted unthinkingly as a result of 'marriage jihad', especially if they're female, your aim in staying in touch will be at least in part to be there for them to help them escape if they do suddenly wake up to the ugliness of the cult and decide they want OUT. You may like to get in touch with Former Muslims United, Barnabas Fund, or FaithFreedom, and get some ideas about how to attempt to DEprogram the convert...organisations that offer advice and counsel for those who know people who have gotten sucked into Cults of any sort, might also be helpful for you).

However, your affection for your friend or relation who has turned-Muslim ought not to override your concern for the Common Good. If the convert does not break off relationship with *you* - which they might (and if they do, that's a red flag in and of itself) - you should aim to keep the relationship going...because so long as you are in contact, you will be able to keep an eye on them, for the good of the general non-Muslim public.

Keep an eye open for danger signs (these should be easy to spot if the person is a close family member and has remained in touch). If you feel the least bit uneasy: inform the police.

I was thinking the same thing you were. The documentary is "My brother the muslim."

The convert brother of the film maker infuriated me. I came close to smashing my screen.

The ginger idiot was annoyingly cliche with "people need to read quran with open mind blah, blah, der, duh, I'm fat goofy idiot without an original thought of my own."

I immediately thought of those two clowns and have been scouring the web all day to find the names of these murder-minded revolting reverts to confirm if our shared instinct was correct.

Me too Jim. I'm on the outside looking in though:-(

It is called "my brother the islamist" which is probably why u couldn't find. About Robb Leech and his step-brother Richard.
Also features ginger - a kid called Ben.
See here http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-12900460
I'm guessing that their ages, now, are abour right but,as I said, we shall see. Notably both now live totally on benefits and are part of Choudhary's group. Both are from Weymouth in Dorset.

Yo , greenpen. . I'm on the outside too, fella. . As Billy Fury sang : Play it Cooj. . . ;-)

well Chick, one has been named as "Jamal ud-Din" who, from the picture just posted in the Daily Telegraph certainly appears to be ginger Ben who had an earlier arabic name. The other has been named as "Zakariya". That name doesn't fit with the step brother Richard in the film who called himself "Salahuddin". Then again muslims appear to have so many aliases - normally that is a device employed by some criminals .'nough said.

As may be expected "friends" claim that these unemployed men were just "getting into the Olympic spirit". Quote:-
Mizanur Rahman, 29, said the arrests “might have had something to do with the fact that they recently went canoeing” on the River Lea, a branch of which runs through the Olympic site in east London.

“It’s just people trying to get into the Olympic spirit,” he told the Associated Press but added he believed the authorities would try “painting it as jihad training.” Well he would say that wouldn't he? The escapade was Monday night.I'd still be unsurprised if the other man was "Salahuddin" aka Richard.

Ginger nut Jamaal Uddin (note the variant spelling) putting up "Sharia Controlled Zone" posters in East London last year.
DM July 28 2011

yes he did. He also has several youtube videos on show. Google "Ben converts to islam" to find.
He is somewhat incoherent but clearly egocentric and a sad attention seeker. He and islam go well together. His poor mother must be devastated. An inadequate mind seduced by promises of this and that. Easy meat for islamists. It would seem that this saddo has never worked and is now a drain on public finances.
His hoppos - "Salahuddin" and Choudhary - DID once work but gave that up for the islamic, and parasitic, "good life" where infidel slaves provide. The more things change the more they remain the same.

And oh. We DO in the UK have many indigenous benefit fraudsters but they are rather less a proportion per capita than muslims. Official stats show that 50%(men) and 75% (women) of immigrants from predominant muslim states claim benefits and do not work. The stats decline to examine 2nd and 3rd generation. I wonder.The situation could be far worse than we think.

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