Zionists defeat LA Jewish Federation, Geller event goes on as scheduled

Following up on this appalling story, Pamela Geller has an update here:

We live in times when those who control the establishment media and mainstream organizations are increasingly afraid of confronting the true evils of our day, and cowed by the forces of Islamic supremacism and oppression. It saddens me to number the Los Angeles Jewish Federation among these compromised elites, but it cannot be denied in light of their cancellation of my planned address there this morning. LA's failed Jewish leadership follows in the rich tradition of its forbears who worshipped the golden calf. Imagine: Zionists are not welcome at the LA Jewish Federation.

I am extremely happy to report, however, that the proud Jews of the ZOA Western Region, led by the indefatigable Orit Arfa, were not willing to go quietly into the night. Within half an hour of when the event was supposed to take place, they swiftly organized a protest outside the Jewish Federation building, and called out the Federation leaders for capitulating to the Islamic supremacist Jew-haters of Hamas-CAIR. Scores protested in defense of free speech. They also quickly found an alternative venue, The Mark, where an enthusiastic crowd gathered to hear the Photo-9address that the Jewish Federation was too frightened to allow to be heard. Mention must be made of Steve Goldberg, who went toe-to-toe with the craven Jay Sanderson of the Federation, who actually claimed that he was afraid that Muslim protestors would storm the building -- when we all know it wasn't that at all.

Of course, I had to speak about what had happened, and about how the Jewish community's acquiescence to the marginalization of freedom fighters is ultimately self-defeating to the point of suicide -- and above all, about how we have to challenge the left's control of the narrative. We take for granted as acceptable what a sane society would identify as monstrous evils: the "Palestinian" genocidal jihad against the Jews, and the jihad against the West and against civilization in general. We tolerate Islamic honor killing, female genital mutilation, polygamy, cultural annihilation, enslavement, and so much more -- for fear of being accused of "Islamophobia." We have to challenge all this and call evil what it is. If we don't, history shows us where all this leads.

The LA Times was at the protest. Of course, we know the spin they'll put on it.

Pamela has much more here.

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Wow, ZOA has been compromised. So has Tunisia, Libya, Sudan, Somalia, Mauritania, Morocco, Algeria, Egypt, Iran... I wonder what said that Nubia, Cush, Elam, Libya and Egypt would try to destroy Israel? Huh... A genie... Maybe?

Lol. Looks like that guy Pamela was talking to at the very beginning was wearing a Beitar Jerusalem t-shirt, although they blurred it out in the video. I want some Beitar gear.

Thank you Pam!!!!!!!

Great news really,I didn't expect it at all,there are still people with spine..I think you will find this interesting,it includes TWO VIDEOS ON THE SUBJECT:

"About the Only Religious War in Latin America,the Cristiada (1926-1929) of Mexico,all the Fault of a Fanatical Atheist"

http://www.antisharia.com/2012/06/25/about-the-only-religious-war-in-latin-americathe-cristiada-1926-1929-of-mexicoall-the-fault-of-a-fanatical-atheist/

AND ALSO

"About Ibn Kammuna,13th Century Jewish Intellectual of Baghdad,who wrote a Famous Book against Islam"

http://www.antisharia.com/2012/03/29/about-ibn-kammuna13th-century-jewish-intellectual-of-baghdadwho-wrote-a-famous-book-against-islam/

Not that long back, we had Muslims in Florida protests, declare that "jews needed a big oven".

What kind of idiocy leads jewish groups to form an interfaith group with the very same Muslims?

This is the Zionists vs. neoliberals and neocons. The Zionists are pride of the Jewish race. The neoliberal-neocons are disgrace to the Jewish race.
Glory to Zionism!
Down with the nn's!

Ruslan Tokhchukov.

OBAMA & THE MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD

The Brotherhood's credo was and is, "God is our objective; the Quran is our constitution, the Prophet is our leader; Jihad is our way; and death for the sake of God is the highest of our aspirations."

The Brotherhood's English language website describes the "principles of the Muslim Brotherhood" as including firstly the introduction of the Islamic Shari`ah as "the basis controlling the affairs of state and society;"

And so Obama gives the Muslim Brotherhood positions within his administration. Especially highly classified position in Homeland Securutiy.

Does this sound like aiding & abedding the enemy?

"Jay Sanderson of the Federation, who actually claimed that he was afraid that Muslim protestors would storm the building -- when we all know it wasn't that at all."

PC MCs/Leftists don't usually cite their fear of Muslim violence as a motivating factor for their dhimmitude; so I don't see why we shouldn't believe his candor in this regard.

Gas Chambers for the LA Jewish Federation !

Mohammed Mursi of the Muslim Brotherhood sets about building a civilian administration for Egypt on Monday that can heal a divisive history of oppression and coax a mistrustful army into relaxing its grip on power.

Read more: http://www.maghrebchristians.com/2012/06/25/egypts-islamist-president-mursi-to-begin-consultations-on-new-administration/#ixzz1ynDN8UJT

Youssef

Well done!

Islam: where freedom ends and slavery begins.

Egypt’s Islamist president-elect, Mohamed Morsi, wants to “reconsider” the peace deal with Israel and build ties with Iran to “create a strategic balance” in the Middle East, according to an interview published by Iran’s Fars news agency on Monday.

Read more: http://www.maghrebchristians.com/2012/06/25/egypts-mursi-to-rethink-israel-pact-build-iran-ties/#ixzz1ynfO6Zrk

Youssef

You guys - were stuck outside.

But that was a really good video!!

Informative!!

I love Pamela Geller and want to marry her. Failing that, will she be my mom?

LemonLime, that's one way to look at it. Another would be to explore online discussions from the opposing point of view.
For instance here is a blogpost wreaking it's been infected by whackademic embrace of The Coherence of Karen Armstrong's Incoherence
:

yankel June 24, 2012 at 5:08 AM
How low can they get?
Through centuries, the Muslim lands have been consistent safeheaven for Jews. In the darkest hours of the crusades, the Iberian deportations and the Holocaust, Muslims — individuals and societies alike — treated persecuted Jews as fellow humans.
How low can they get? – Evidently they live up to their shitty name.

I really respect RS's scholarship and I really enjoy his witty writing style, but again I must object to his self-defeating loose usage of the terms "leftist" or liberal." Neither he nor anyone else I see posting here bothers to define those terms. To the extent I can find a definition it appears to be "anyone who fails to oppose Islamic ideology." To then ridicule leftists and liberals because they don't oppose Islamic ideology is a nonsensical tautological argument.

The war against Islamic ideology is not a left vs right struggle. Nor is it a religious one. It is based upon the furtherance of modern western civilization values including justice for men and women of all faiths and creeds under the law. Using labels only serves to alienate many ordinary
citizens who might otherwise lend RS a more attentive ear. It's not necessary, much less helpful, to win the struggle against the spread of Islamic ideology to take a left or right political position. Moreover, it's especially unhelpful to allow yourself to be identified with controversial media whores like Glenn Beck or Rush Limbaugh.

I would encourage RS to soften the rhetoric ridiculing "leftists" and "liberals". I think it's bad strategy and one needs to think strategically in order to prevail against Islamic ideology. It does'nt require one to compromise his values.

From the Lukeford.net site, a YouTube video featuring two of the planet's most clueless, liberal, leftist morons:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=OnTmLD5pHZk

Of course it was fear ! Bury your head in the sand and it will go away !

They should know better !

I wouldn't want Pamela mad at me ! Their fears are misplaced !

"United in Hate: The Left's Romance with Tyranny and Terror" by Jamie Glazov

WhupTdue,

I fail to see how your post, or Hugh's article, demonstrates that Jay Sanderson was not motivated -- at least in part -- by an actual fear of Muslim violence and that he was being honest -- at least with regard to that -- when he said so; so I remain baffled by Geller's editorial remark.

That was a laugh.
That woman is a nut case. Totally ignorant of what Pam & Robert stand for !

Fear from Sanderson's perspective has a lot to do with the entrenched dhimmi status of Jews who continue to buy into the ahistoric meme "Through centuries, the Muslim lands have been consistent safeheaven for Jews."
That old bromide about tolerant Islam providing safe haven from a tyraniccal Christian inquisition has been put to rest. See Dr. Andrew Bostom's works or those of Bat Ye'Or.

Recently, I read one of your posts making the same complaint as this one. I took you to be one of these types that dash off a post because you're feeling grumpy or ignored at home, or something.
But you're serious about this nonsense you complain about, aren't you!

You write that: Neither he (Robert Spencer) nor anyone else I see posting here bothers to define those terms......"leftist" or "liberal".

OK, here's a definition. "Leftist" or "liberal" refers to the useful idiots who are apologists for Islam and all its works -- destroying free speech, suppressing freedom of conscience, objecting to equal rights between men and women and being determined to subjugate the world to Sharia law, for example.

These clowns are helping the most brutal so-called religion, a military ideology dressed up as a religion, to gain a foothold in free societies. These moral invertebrates need to be exposed and opposed.

Now, what's your problem? You don't believe me, right?


leberally and PC jews! those are the ones. they are the biggest enemy of Israel. 10000 times bigger that hams and the iranian governmet.
M

WhupTDue,

If Muslims are perceived by dhimmis like Sanderson as their perennial safe haven, why would dhimmis like Sanderson be afraid of Muslims? Doesn't make sense.

darmanad,

The overall problem is relatively simple to comprehend:

1. Most people in the West continue to be blind to the evils and dangers of Islam.

2. "Most people" includes all types of people -- including the majority of Conservatives as well as many who don't identify themselves as any particular party and aren't very active in politics.

3. Nevertheless, while many non-Leftists continue to be blind to the evils and dangers of Islam, it does seem that Leftists more often go the extra mile and show more positive support for, and defense, of Muslims. Part of this is due to the fact that Leftists tend to have in their subculture stronger anti-Western feelings and attitudes, nursing a more profound and darker self-criticism of their own civilization's "shameful past", than do non-Leftists (this anti-Western pathos often gaining extra juiciness when it's expressed as anti-Americanism).

So, in a simple nutshell: Yes, non-Leftists of the West continue to be blind to the evils and dangers of Islam; but Leftists tend to be worse in this regard.

Was that clear enough?

@Charleston 45 - Thanks for your clear counter-argument. It really helps understand your disagreement with what I wrote.

@Buraq - I believe you. I believe you. You are a perfect example of why I criticized RS and many who post here. Read your definition of leftists/liberals. You have done exactly what I said was tautological. You defined leftists/liberals solely with respect to their attitudes towards Islamic ideology... and then proceed to slam leftists/liberals because they don't oppose Islamic ideology. If you can't see that this is tautological then, quite frankly, you are dumb as well as ignorant.

@Lemonlime - I agree with your propositions #1 and 2, but you also fail to define leftist/liberal so, in answer to your question, no, it is not at all clear that leftist/liberals as a group have attitudes towards Islamic ideology different than conservatives do.

One definition of "liberal" as it applies to politics is:
Not limited to or by established, traditional, orthodox, or authoritarian attitudes, views, or dogmas; free from bigotry.

It would no doubt come as a surprise to may JW readers that many liberals/leftists would characterize the NYT along with a lot other big money owned MSM as conservative even though JW readers willy nilly ridicule the MSM as leftist. These labels are not very reliable in identifying the attitudes of people towards any one particular social issue. Much like Einstein's theory of relativity, accurate placement on the political spectrum depends much on the location and movement of the observer. Attitudes towards various social issues such as abortion, tax reform, gay marriage, death penalty, immigration, distribution of wealth, are often used to define who is liberal and who is conservative, but the issue of opposition to the Islamic ideology is not yet so well defined as to lend itself for easy placement on the political spectrum.

Aside from pointing out the tautological reasoning of the left bashers here, I believe to ridicule all leftists and liberals alienates a lot of people who may think of themselves as liberal because of their views on more well defined issues. It is unnecessary to make the struggle against the spread of Islam a left vs right issue (or a religious one). Not only that, by allowing oneself to be identified as on the extreme right along with controversial ideologues like Limbaugh or Beck one tends to lose credibility with a lot of intelligent people who might otherwise listen more carefully to the arguments against
Islamic ideology especially as it concerns mideast politics.

darmanad,

I agree that exaggerating the liberal/Leftist blame re: the Western myopia to the problem of Islam is not only counter-productive, but also inaccurate; however, I think it's disingenuous to deny that a) there exist discernable liberals/Leftists, and that b) they do tend to bend over farther backwards than do non-liberals-non-Leftists to placate and "respect" Muslims.

LL,
Of course there are "discernable" liberals (and there are screaming out loud liberals), but it is not at all clear that as a group they are any more complacent in condoning Islamic ideology than conservatives. Islamic ideology, per se, is not identified as falling within an established, orthodox, or traditional dogma which liberals by definition might be more willing to reject or condone. Accordingly, one's attitudes towards Islamic ideology defines neither the liberal or conservative political mindset.
One's attitude towards Islamic ideology should be based upon whether one accepts the inherent values of the ideology and the more those values are exposed the more rational ethical people along the entirety of the political spectrum will come to reject it. Those who don't reject it are not necessarily liberals, they 're just not enlightened. Yet.

It is divisive to construct a superficial dichotomy, but unfortunately, it has become convenient to label as liberal/leftist those who might be reticent to slam the ideology as forcefully as JW writers would prefer.

LL,
Of course there are "discernable" liberals (and there are screaming out loud liberals), but it is not at all clear that as a group they are any more complacent in condoning Islamic ideology than conservatives. Islamic ideology, per se, is not identified as falling within an established, orthodox, or traditional dogma which liberals by definition might be more willing to reject or condone. Accordingly, one's attitudes towards Islamic ideology defines neither the liberal or conservative political mindset.
One's attitude towards Islamic ideology should be based upon whether one accepts the inherent values of the ideology and the more those values are exposed the more rational ethical people along the entirety of the political spectrum will come to reject it. Those who don't reject it are not necessarily liberals, they 're just not enlightened. Yet.

It is divisive to construct a superficial dichotomy, but unfortunately, it has become convenient to label as liberal/leftist those who might be reticent to slam the ideology as forcefully as JW writers would prefer.

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