Afghan policeman murders three civilian training advisers, two American and one British

Still more indication of the madness of our adventure in Afghanistan, and of the impossibility of distinguishing Islamic jihadists from peaceful Muslims who are genuinely on our side. Not that anyone cares. "NATO: 3 western advisers killed in Afghanistan," from The Associated Press, July 23 (thanks to Bill):

KABUL, Afghanistan—Three civilian police training advisers, two American and one British, were killed over the weekend by an Afghan policeman at a training academy in western Afghanistan, Afghan officials and a NATO official said on Monday.

In a separate incident, the NATO official said two service members with the U.S.-led coalition were wounded on Monday when an Afghan soldier opened fire on them in northern Afghanistan. No other details have been disclosed about that shooting....

Afghan security forces or militants dressed in their uniforms have been killing a rising number of coalition forces, but they have not been specifically targeting civilian contractors working for the coalition. So far this year, 26 foreign troops have been killed in this type of attack....

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All this death of our soldiers,and blatant betrayal attacks are what we are getting from these Islamo-fascist ingrates.When we are going to stop our help to these Muslims.Islam will never ever appreciate nor it will compromise nor will equate non-Muslim things with Islam !

Anyone ready yet to admit that our enemy is ISLAM and that the solution to the problem is to ERADICATE ISLAM ?

Time to leave. Let these savages sort out their own sh*t.

You'd think someone would know that you don't train your enemies to kill you...


The Republic of Afghanistan, stood up by certain public officials in the United States and supported by certain senior officers in the military, permits the rape of 9 year old girls (really 8 when taking the shorter Islamic calendar "year" into account) involuntarily married to adult Muslim males. This is established law in Afghanistan, based on sharia, and is well known.

When will all the monuments, honors and awards to the American politicians and senior officers who aided Afghanistan over the last decade be torn down, removed and revoked due to their lack of moral compass, ofuscation, and complicity in this and so many other Islamic perversions?

Say it ain't so, or is responsibility only for Joe Paterno?

Let's just get out.


And once we've got our men out of Afghanistan, let's send back to Afghanistan the swarms of Afghan Mohammedans - the vast majority being males of military age - who've already invaded and settled in *our* territory, where a significant number of them behave like marauding enemy soldiers, thieving and raping. There are hordes of them in Greece, for example (wafted on their way to Greece, by Mohammedan Turkey) and far too many in Australia (wafted on their way to us, by Mohammedan Indonesia, who somehow just can't manage to stop them from setting sail).

Afghan Muslims don't want Infidels on 'Muslim turf' in Afghanistan?

Fine.

We'll leave.

But turn about is fair play: we won't allow Afghan Muslims to enter or to remain in *our* Infidel lands, either.

There's no such thing as 'Muslim Turf'.
Every square inch of land upon which the muslim today squats was formerly sacred Christian, Jewish or Hindu land, lost to the West by terror and slaughter.
The only solution is to do a giant fourteen hundred year rewind, to status quo ante, to before the demons from hell escaped from mohammed's syphilitic brain and created the giant black hole that has been slowly but inexorably eating away and spreading over the surface of the earth, and threatening to cast Western Civilization at the height of its glory into the bottomless pit of a second dark age.

Barring islam from the West, evicting those muslims who are here as Christian Spain evicted the Moors, containing and isolating islam and eradicating islam, step by step, country by country, until all formerly muslim lands are free, should be the highest priority and the stated and written policy and objective of Western Civilization.

To allow Islam to have a safe haven in any part of the world is to betray and abandon our brother and sister Christians who have been kidnapped and enslaved by Islam and forced to convert at the point of the sword.

It's time for the West to recognize Islam for the existential threat that it is.
For hundreds of millions it's already too late, their world has already come to an end, for them, all is lost, there can never be a victory over Islam, their cultures have been destroyed, their history has been erased, their race has been exterminated, their children have been raped and enslaved.
And for many today, defeat and death and submission to Islam is their certain and imminent and irrevocable fate.
But for some of us, and for our children, victory over Islam is still possible.

Yes me. I'm ready to admit it.

However I'm finding that admission the easy part.
With One Billion + adherents killing them all with seem to be a genocide of unimaginable proportions.

So if we can't do that would it be some kind of containment a la USSR until they decide to be nice? Like in maybe 500 years, or maybe never.

So what's the plan?

There's your plan ! I didn't see the second post.

I'll tell you one problem that I think needs to be overcome before we could get started with your plan.

We've come in the West to believe in religious freedom. It's enshrined in the US Constitution among other places.
We had to have this as the only way to escape the theocracy as the past.

Consequently I believe we have become engrained with the belief that everyone has a right to pursue their religion. I don't think this is just a 'liberal' or 'multicultural' notion but one that prevails across the political spectrum and for the most part I believe it is a good thing.

However Islam doesn't really fit into this freedom of conscience because, as we know, Islam is not just a set of beliefs but a whole 'how to' handbook on life.
And what a life....

Until Islam is seen in a different context to just another religion I think it's going to hard to get any traction on your plan, regardless of which political parties are in power.

And this may be where JW makes it's best contribution.

REPLY TO AMAZONAS

Those are some very thoughtful comments and questions.

The plan to eradicate Islam?

We should publish detailed policies and plans to eradicate islam, put it in black and white, propose that our government adopt these as it's stated policy, and then we should work to get those policies and plans adopted. As far as I know, no one has submitted such a Constitutional amendment or such a declaration of war against islam. Putting such a policy in writing and then fighting the battle to get it adopted is the most important thing we can do to solve the islamic problem.

A second declaration of independence - a Declaration of Independence - from Islam.
The United States needs to be independent of islam and for some of the same reasons it declared itself to be independent of Britain.
The following sentence comes to mind and, suitably reworded, could apply today to Islam just as the first declaration of independence applied to Britain, "But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.."

Recognize that Islam is fundamentally and totally incompatible with Western Civilization, and is an existential threat to the United States. Put that in writing and make it the policy and the highest priority of the U.S. government to defeat and eradicate Islam.

Recognize that islam has declared war against the West (explicitly, within the Koran itself ) and respond by a declaration of defensive war against islam until the unconditional surrender of islam and the eradication of islam from the face of the earth.

Make it official government policy that Western Civilization is superior to islam (teach it in the schools) and educate the population.
Uphold the values of Western Civilization at every opportunity and denounce the suicidal, politically correct denigrators of the West.

Separate islam from the West and eventually eradicate it from the face of the earth, state that all people in the world, even in majority islamic countries, are entitled to all the freedoms included in our Bill of Rights.

Make it American policy to support Christian, Jewish and other minorities against islamic depredations, even in majority islamic countries.

Read the Koran, get every American to read the koran and REQUIRE that every politician, DHS official, military leader READ the KORAN.
Demand that every politician state and demonstrate that they've read the koran.

Take the oil weapon away from the muslim world, they've used it as a weapon of war against us and they've used oil money to bribe and subvert our own politicians, they've forfeited the right to the use of that oil. This could have been done so easily, during the first gulf war, if our military had turned left toward Saudi Arabia instead of right toward Iraq, by taking over the oil fields we could have gone a long way towards winning the war against islam right there, and we would have been fully justified.

State very clearly that Islam is not a religion. That it is an alien enemy ideology masquerading as a religion. And therefore it is entitled to NONE of the protections and privileges of a real religion and that it should instead be treated as the enemy ideology that it is.

Require all muslims to renounce islam or be expelled from the West, starting with those who are working to impose sharia but including eventually even those who only refuse to renounce islam as they are a potential fifth column and can revert to violent jihadis or enablers and supporters of jihad without warning at any time.
The most powerful weapon that muslims have to destroy the West might be the demographic weapon, the population bomb. That is why their expulsion from Europe and the West is a necessary first step.

Getting the Republican or Democrat party to see the true nature of the islamic problem and to take steps to deal with it might be impossible, it might be necessary to build a new political party re-dedicated to the Constitution and to the principals of Western Civilization.

I asked who's willing to admit that Islam is the enemy and one person replies, so there's a ways to go.
I think most people haven't thought the problem through to it's logical conclusion.
The situation is like the blind men trying to describe the elephant.
Looking at islam, some people see a problem here, and others see a problem there, and most think that if the little thing that bothers them could be changed, the rough edges smoothed over, then the rest of islam would fit into their world just fine.
But so very few people have a comprehensive or fundamental view of the whole of islam and so few understand that islam is fundamentally incompatible with Western Civilization.
ALL of islam is fundamentally incompatible with civilization and with the Western way of life, nothing is islam has any redeeming value.
So few people are willing to admit what must be done to solve the islamic problem and to follow it through to it's logical conclusion.

I say Islam is the enemy, not islamism, radical islam, terrorism, or any of the other deflections that are used to divert people from seeing the truth.

The solution to that problem of the ignorance of islam? Read the Koran.
I was bothered and threatened as much as anyone else by 9/11.
I kept up with events by reading the NYT and WSJ, but I didn't see the whole problem.
The daily reporting in the news are bits and pieces of the puzzle but I couldn't even see the big picture that all the pieces were supposed to fit into.
I finally thought, go to the source, read the koran.
That was the bolt of lightning, the revelation, the revelation that explains why Islam is so evil.
And when I hear politicians and DHS officials and military leaders today trying to explain the Islamic problem I can tell that not one in a hundred has actually read the koran.
And even if they have, so many have already been bribed by islamic oil money.
Add to the reading of the koran itself the writings of some of the anti-islamic authors, Oriana Fallaci, Bat Ye'or, Wafa Sultan, Ayaan Hirsi Ali and then the true horror of islam should be clear to everyone.

I use the word eradicate - maybe that's a confusing term to some people because it sounds too much like exterminate.
Eradicate islam means to get people to stop believing in islam, not to exterminate the people who believe in islam.
Eradicating islam means freeing people, including muslims, from slavery to Allah.
But eradicate is the right term because it means to get rid of the belief entirely, because it's so noxious and dangerous and because it is spread by infection like a virus, and because it replicates and multiplies exponentially like a virus and eradicate is what you have to do to protect yourself from a deadly infectious virus.
Smallpox had to be eradicated, a single infection anywhere in the world would have erupted into a whole new worldwide scourge, so too Islam, it can't just be reduced, it can't just be isolated to so called "Islamic" countries, it has to be eliminated utterly.
Eradicating Islam could be as easy as getting every muslim to see the light, to recognize that islam is evil and to renounce Islam.
Of course it won't happen that easily, or overnight.
It may require more than logical arguments, because how many people hold logic and truth as the highest value? Most people make their decisions based on self interest, and emotion and peer pressure and tradition.
So, more forceful means may be necessary to eradicate islam.

Oil has been the giant force that has been fueling the Islamic resurgence of the last hundred years.
Oil has powered a great deal of the advance and expansion of Western Civilization over the last hundred years, but since a big source of that oil has been the Middle East, oil has also powered the resurgence of Islam.
Eradicating islam may sound impossible or enormously difficult, but in fact so much of the power of islam is based on oil, take oil away from islam and much of the threat of islam will disappear.

Western Civilization contains within itself the seeds of it's own destruction.
So many of the things that make islam such a threat have been created by the West.
It was Western science and agriculture and modern medicine that allowed the islamic population to explode and to flood Europe with it's muslim population.
It was the West that created the nuclear weapons and the EMP weapon that may allow islam to destroy the West.
It was the West that created modern transportation that allowed Europe to be flooded with millions of immigrants from the third world.
It was the West that created the internet that allows islam to coordinate and incite it's followers to work for our destruction.
The whole question of the fundamental forces that have allowed islam to become such a resurgent problem in the twentieth and twenty-first century needs much greater study and understanding.

JW does make an educational contribution to the solution of the islamic problem, agreed.
Sometimes it seems to advocate that islam be resisted at the fringes, nibbled away at around the edges.
I'd like to see islam attacked at the nerve center, at the highest levels of the policy making machinery of our government.

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