China: Two jihadists who tried to hijack plane dead

Score two for the Infidels. An update on this story. "2 suspects dead in China plane hijack attempt," from the Associated Press, July 2 (thanks to Pamela Geller):

BEIJING (AP) — Two men who allegedly tried to hijack a plane in far west China by battering the cockpit door with a crutch and trying to set off explosives have died from injuries sustained in a fight with passengers and crew, state media said Monday.

Earlier reports said six Uighur men were arrested Friday following the foiled hijack attempt in Xinjiang region. Four crew members were injured in the tussle. Xinjiang is home to a large population of minority Uighurs (pronounced WEE'-gurs), but is ruled by China's ethnic majority Hans. There have been clashes between authorities and Uighurs resentful of government controls over their religion and culture.

An overseas rights group says the incident wasn't a hijacking attempt but an in-flight brawl over a seat dispute.

The state-run Global Times newspaper reported that two of the suspects had died in hospital from injuries sustained in the fight with passengers and crew, but didn't say when. The report cited local officials who weren't identified by name. Global Times said two others were hospitalized after mutilating themselves, but gave no details.

The report said authorities were investigating how the men, aged 20 to 36 and all from the city of Kashgar in the west of Xinjiang, managed to get the explosives past security checks.

Xinjiang regional government spokeswoman Hou Hanmin on Monday said she was unable to confirm whether any of the suspects had died.

Hou said the men took apart a pair of aluminum crutches and used the pieces to attack people while trying to break into the cockpit. She said they also had material believed to be explosives but that was still being tested by police....

I guess aluminum crutches will be verboten on airplanes now.

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An overseas rights group says the incident wasn't a hijacking attempt but an in-flight brawl over a seat dispute....
... The report said authorities were investigating how the men, aged 20 to 36 and all from the city of Kashgar in the west of Xinjiang, managed to get the explosives past security checks.

Yeah, like don't bring a knife to a gunfight. I guess the attackers's 'explosives' were there to even the odds? ... Idiots.

Jihadis be jihadis. Of course, there are two fewer now.

"There have been clashes between authorities and Uighurs resentful of government controls over their religion and culture."

Read as:

There have been clashes between authorities and Uighurs resentful of government refusal to replace the existing government and laws with the shari'ah.

Not sure which is worse, there.

i would say sharia is much worse. at least under he current chinese laws you can have a ber without being lashed and you can have sex outside of marriage without being stoned!!!
m

"An overseas rights group says the incident wasn't a hijacking attempt but an in-flight brawl over a seat dispute."

how common is it for people who dispute their seating assignments to be carrying explosives?.....

"The state-run Global Times newspaper reported that two of the suspects had died in hospital from injuries sustained in the fight with passengers and crew, but didn't say when."

Yeah, maybe that's how they died...and maybe not. I'm no great fan of the Chicoms but I'll bet their tolerance-level for islamic hijinks like this is ZERO. I'm confident they'll "settle" this in a way that leaves no one in doubt as to who's in charge there--and who ISN'T...

"The report said authorities were investigating how the men, aged 20 to 36 and all from the city of Kashgar in the west of Xinjiang, managed to get the explosives past security checks."

Muslims manning the security checkpoints and baggage handling areas...

"Everyone was Kung Fu Fighting"

"Two men who allegedly tried to hijack a plane in far west China by battering the cockpit door with a crutch and trying to set off explosives have died from injuries sustained in a fight with passengers and crew, state media said Monday. "

whaaaat? The Muslims don't like the occupying Chinese?

"There have been clashes between authorities and Uighurs resentful of government controls over their religion and culture."

Gee, Moslems are trying to impose their "religion" and culture on other people all over the world. So how can they object to the Chinese doing the same thing to them?

George

you quoted the article -' The state-run Global Times newspaper reported that two of the suspects had died in hospital from injuries sustained in the fight with passengers and crew, but didn't say when."

and remarked 'Yeah, maybe that's how they died...and maybe not."

Looks to me as though the Chinese non-Muslims on board that plane dealt summarily with the would-be jihadists.

I don't know that things would turn out that differently on board a flight within the USA, these days, supposing a group of six Muslim men behaved in a sufficiently threatening manner; supposing that they injured a flight attendant or passenger and/ or looked like they were about to set off a bomb or attempt a hijack.

I'd hazard the guess that they'd get mobbed by the biggest guys on board, no holds barred. Lots of folks have seen the film about flight 93 and lots more have heard all about it; I suspect lots of people in the West, women as well as men, have thought quite seriously about what they would do, if Mohammedan jihad mayhem looked like being attempted on their plane. And people have figured out that - just in case there's a bomb about to be set off - they'll have to act fast and hard. The Shoe Bomber was spotted, pounced on, seized and overpowered by passengers and trussed up like a chicken; so was the Underpants Bomber. Nobody was particularly gentle.

And if the bad guys got injured or killed in the process of being Neutralised, I am sure there would be plenty of witnesses to testify on behalf of those who had done the Neutralising.

Time to re-post a couple of classics.

First, this, applicable - with a few small adjustments of detail, to cover local conditions - across the entire non-Muslim world.


http://www.jihadwatch.org/2007/03/i-am-john-doe.html

I am John Doe

A magisterial column by Michelle Malkin (with video here):

"Dear Muslim Terrorist Plotter/Planner/Funder/Enabler/Apologist,
You do not know me. But I am on the lookout for you.
You are my enemy. And I am yours.
I am John Doe.
I am traveling on your plane. I am riding on your train. I am at your bus stop. I am on your street. I am in your subway car. I am on your lift.
I am your neighbor. I am your customer. I am your classmate. I am your boss.
I am John Doe...".

Perhaps it should be translated (with, as I said, a few adjustments to cover local conditions) into Chinese, into Hindi, into Amharic, into Swahili, into Thai, into Tagalog, into Russian...

And primarily for Westerners, there is this:

http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/2011/10/fireside-chat-with-ummah.html#more

Saturday, October 08, 2011
A Fireside Chat With the Ummah

Excerpts:

'Dear Muslims...

"...we know what you want.

"You want to expand Dar al-Islam at the expense of the Dar al-Harb and, in the long run, bring about the domination of the entire world by Islam.

"We also know that the method for that is called jihad, and we are not stupid enough to believe that jihad only means violence. No, you are not that primitive. Jihad also includes demographic efforts, immigration, da’wa (proselytizing), taqiyya (skillful lying), writing jihad (propaganda) and use of economic power (petrodollars). We even believe you that there is an inner jihad: to lead a life that is pleasing to Allah. That is your private affair. We also do not annoy you with the content of our prayers. Naturally, we do not believe that that is the only meaning of jihad. We are not blind, and thankfully your sacred writings are available for us to read.

"We also recognize that there are differing opinions within your community on whether terrorist violence is an efficient or a counterproductive means of achieving your goals. We wouldn’t like to inject ourselves into that. You should agree among yourselves about tactical and strategic questions.

"It may reassure you to know that we, for our part, are moving to discussing Counterjihad among ourselves from a purely tactical-strategic perspective — no longer considering which methods are more agreeable to you, but only which ones are more agreeable and likely of success from our point of view.

"By the way, we very much hope that, with the sense God has given you, you see that your intent of Islamizing the whole world or alternatively just Israel and Europe does not appeal to us.

"It is our sad duty to tell you that we will resist this intention with all means at our disposal...

"We will no longer argue with you about your intentions; we will just try to keep you from carrying them out..

"We must regretfully inform you that we do not intend to be conquered voluntarily...".

"

Why not outsource the war on terror/jihad/islam/muslims/whatever to the Chinese? They certainly do that better. Ask the Chinese to all get involved in the global war on terror, and take back all manufacturing jobs that they'll be unable to do once they're all too busy doing this?

Hi, DDA,

Yes, your point is well-taken. This isn't a "fight-or-flee situation on an aircraft in flight--there's no place to flee, even if you wanted to--at 35,000 feet! I think any force required to bring the would-be attackers down would be appropriate and heroic. If these cretins insist on placing us in "kill or be killed" situations...they should expect to die for their trouble, no apologies, no regrets.

My point is that I think the Chicoms might not display the, shall we call it, tender sensitivities, to the prepetrators
that might be expected in more "enlightened" countries. And in a case like this, I think that's appropriate, too...

Hope all is well "Down Under!"

G

The brave Chinese citizens stand up and fight back. Refuse to allow a 9/11 jihad atrocity on themselves and their fellow citizens. But our united states of America is whorring with those jihadis. Setting them up in Palau with bank accounts padded with our tax dollars. Bribing Albania and other countries with millions of our tax dollars to provide residency to others. Allowing the
To establish an " overseas rights group" here in the us. Even after 9/11, still seeking an alliance with the Islamic jihadis against "the others": the Serbs, the Russians, the Chinese. Disgraceful. Dishonorable. Criminal.

Ruslan Tokhchukov.

T.C.B.--Chineee!

Whatever you think of the Chinese, they don't take any crap from anyone - I should know - I'm married to one!

Expect to see more of this, ahem, 'robust' handling of islamic jihadists in the future. it will get worse there, but pretty quickly, even dumbo jihadists will realise they are on a hiding to nothing...the Chinese will crush them flat. Which is what we should be doing

Of course, the interesting thing about the world today, as opposed to the world into which Islam erupted in the 7th century, is that lots of us in all our different countries are watching what each other is doing, peering over each other's shoulders, trying to figure out what works and what doesn't. Over a millennium ago, people like Charles de Martel had no idea that they were fighting exactly the same merciless enemy as were their kuffar brothers at the opposite end of Eurasia, the Tang dynasty soldiers on the western borders of China, or the warriors trying to defend Sind against the first great Arab/ Mohammedan invasion. But today, it's a different matter. We can compare and contrast, at the click of a mouse, *all* the different theatres of jihad - and resistance to jihad - at once; the ones happening now, and *all* the historic campaigns. I think Muslims are starting to lose the advantage of surprise, of unawareness in their various victims.

Kuffar in Australia or Europe or India can see what kuffar on board, say, a plane in China, did to a bunch of aggressive, dangerous Mohammedans. Or what kuffar did when the Knickbomber attempted to set off an explosion in his underpants...Those stories are told, and retold, people realize 'hey, I wouldn't have to sit in my seat like a terrified sheep, I could get up and *do* something and other folks might get up and help', and then people hopping on planes then have, tucked away in their subconscious, a 'story', a 'how to do it'.

Everybody can *also* see what Mohammedans do to non-Mohammedans, **all over the world**. We can discover that Mohammedan attacks on Buddhists in western Burma or southern Thailand are eerily similar to Mohammedan attacks on Jews (in what way did the slaughter of the Fogel family differ from the throat-slittings and beheadings of innocent and inoffensive Buddhist civilians in southern Thailand? not much), on Christians in Nigeria and Egypt and Pakistan...and on secular Han in Sinkiang, Western China. And after awhile, we begin to recognise patterns and draw conclusions.

And we're also seeing, in so many different places, that appeasing Mohammedans - whether you're in the Philippines, or Israel, or India, or for goodness sakes, Russia, or Thailand - simply doesn't work; 'making nice' to a Mohammedan entity simply invitees *more* and *worse* violence, in the long run.

And so the rational wariness of Muslims in our midst grows, and grows, and grows; and also the willingness to act in self-defence when Mohammedans step over the line.

a long time ago, at a time when Jihad was resurgent in south-western China, an unnamed but perspicacious writer in the English-language North China Herald seemingly had this to say. In 1867.


“If politeness and ceremony be observed toward Mohammedans, they imagine they are feared and become arrogant;

"but in showing severity and rudeness, they are impressed with fear and respect, and they are supple and manageable.”

--North China Herald, 1867.

That was unearthed and shared here by a poster called 'unicorns62000', January 16, 2005 4:30 AM.

I'd have liked a more detailed reference: the article in which this dictum appeared, the name of the author if possible, the day and month as well as the year of publication. But it rings true.

Dumbledore's Army wrote:

Looks to me as though the Chinese non-Muslims on board that plane dealt summarily with the would-be jihadists.

I don't know that things would turn out that differently on board a flight within the USA, these days, supposing a group of six Muslim men behaved in a sufficiently threatening manner; supposing that they injured a flight attendant or passenger and/ or looked like they were about to set off a bomb or attempt a hijack.

I'd hazard the guess that they'd get mobbed by the biggest guys on board, no holds barred. Lots of folks have seen the film about flight 93 and lots more have heard all about it; I suspect lots of people in the West, women as well as men, have thought quite seriously about what they would do, if Mohammedan jihad mayhem looked like being attempted on their plane. And people have figured out that - just in case there's a bomb about to be set off - they'll have to act fast and hard. The Shoe Bomber was spotted, pounced on, seized and overpowered by passengers and trussed up like a chicken; so was the Underpants Bomber. Nobody was particularly gentle.
...................................

Well, DDA, an airplane full of American passengers probably wouldn't kill these vile Jihadists—unless there was absolutely no alternative.

But we have seen several instances where we've roundly kicked their asses, then tied them up good and tight for the authorities.

One detail I'll always remember about Shoe Bomber Richard Reid—he was secured to his seat with so many rolls of duct tape that the Air Marshals who met the plane to take custody of him *couldn't remove them*.

They finally had to cut Reid out of his seat.

Clearly, the passengers weren't taking *any* chances.

Bravo! And may all Infidels throughout the world deal similarly with Jihadists everywhere.

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