Jihad terrorist's wife: "I was forced to hunt Jews"

You're saying that one cannot gain solace out of Islamic prayers? I think you are wrong. I find so much peace and comfort from praying as a Muslim.

What you don't understand is that we Muslims are not terrorists. We are peaceful people that are being persecuted by Christians, Jews, and Atheists all because some stupid people decide to murder themselves and others in the name of Allah, and trying to label themselves Muslim.

What does the Qur'an say about killing people?

"On account of [his deed], We decreed to the Children of Israel that if anyone kills a person – unless in retribution for
murder or spreading corruption in the land – it is as if he kills all
mankind, while if any saves a life it is as if he saves the lives of all mankind." 5:32

Now, I beg you all to research Islam for yourselves. Don't listen to the rumours that are spread by sites like this that only try to paint Islam as a terrorist religion.

I mean, if you're going to listen to the rumours and believe them, then you need to start reading your Bibles and seeing the kind of violence that is portrayed. Or looking at the people who commit crimes or acts of terrorism in the name of Christianity.

"Rumours?" That's what we have here are "rumours?"

Come on, don't even start with that tiresome nonsense here...

Give up pathetic loser troll, we have all well done our independent and for most of us, deep homework, indeed, and well know that at real, basic, fundamental truths, islam is pure manifestation of unimaginable crimes against humanity, especially women and animals. You and your people are the cruelest of people, and the most retarded as well. Most of us have done our homework, on islam, independent of JW, as well.

We well know you and your liar and supremacist types, nearly everyone, or a high proportion, of you criminally brainwashed muslims, so far as my both personal knowledge, and book learning, is concerned, are supremeacists, and-or liars. I personally have worked with your ilk, and kind. Finally, you lie like a rug. I read your worthless devil's book, you sob. I know you! Look up abrogation, stupid, as though you don't know.

And its your own "learned" imams ("holy men") who sanctify ass-rape/sodomy so that a bomb can be inserted in a man's asshole?

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2012/07/raymond-ibrahim-sodomy-for-the-sake-of-islam.html

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What you don't understand is that we Muslims are not terrorists. We are peaceful people that are being persecuted by Christians, Jews, and Atheists all because some stupid people decide to murder themselves and others in the name of Allah, and trying to label themselves Muslim.

Nice try, but ain't gonna work here on JW. It is obvious we know your "holy" books better than you do.

Oh, and don't quote us 5:32 as being all "peaceful" bullshit. 5:33 pretty much renders this whole fallacy useless.

Get lost!

NO one is persecuting you. If anything, people are just awakening to Islam's jihadist components and some of us even have the unmitigated nerve to ask Muslims to take a look at those primitive aspects of their Quran that call for active violence and intolerance against non-Muslims. I hope more do so before it is too late.

As far as "looking into the Bible to see the violence in it," I could count on one hand the number or terrorist attacks and movements inspired by the Bible; there is NO international supremacist movement of world conquest based on the Bible; there is absolutely no call for violence by Christians or Jews against "non-believers" much less one inspired by the Bible's historical narratives.

Stop playing the victim. Muslims have only themselves to blaim; so, instead of casting responsibility for Muslim misdeeds off onto "Jews, Christians, and atheists," decide to be an adult about it and look at where the fault really lies.

@ Qur'anistan

You're a complete clown! Imagine anyone visiting JW and hoping to pull the wool over our eyes with the kind of childish nonsense in your post.

I'll pick up on just one part: You wrote: 'What you don't understand is that we Muslims are not terrorists. We are peaceful people ......'

An ex-Muslim, Ibn Warraq, who has had to change his name because there are Muslims who want to murder him for his apostasy, famously said that there are many peaceful Muslims, but there is no such thing as peaceful Islam.

And that's the fundamental difference between your argument and Ibn Warraq's.

Answer this question! Do you think it's possible for anyone to object to Islam (not Muslims) out of conscience, purely conscience? They have nothing to gain financially or in any other way, they simply object to Islam on the grounds of conscience.

That's the basic position here on JW. By the way, hang around and do some reading of the archives here and learn what Islam's real agenda is - if you don't already know and have come to JW to spread mischief in our land with taqqiya.

Give it up, you're preaching to the wrong crowd here. We know too much about islam......more than we ever wanted to know.

I glad you mentioned 5:32, it reminded me to re-read:

"“The Qur’an Teaches that all Life is Sacred”
(Qur’an, Verse 5:32)

The Muslim Game:

In an effort to portray their religion as non-violent, Muslim apologists vigorously employ verse 5:32, which would appear to promote a universal principal that all life is sacred to Allah - especially the way it is typically quoted by apologists:

"…if any one slew a person… it would be as if he slew a whole people; and if any one saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of a whole people…"
(As quoted by the Fiqh Council of North America in their ultimately meaningless “Fatwa against Terrorism”)

The Truth:

This fragment of verse 5:32 is what the apologists want non-Muslims to believe is in the Qur’an, as opposed to the dozens of other open-ended passages that command warfare, beheadings and torture. But even what they usually quote from 5:32 isn’t quite how it appears. Remember all those ellipses? There's something being left out.

Here’s the full text of the verse:

“On that account: We ordained for the Children of Israel that if any one slew a person - unless it be for murder or for spreading mischief in the land - it would be as if he slew the whole people: and if any one saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of the whole people. Then although there came to them Our messengers with clear signs, yet, even after that, many of them continued to commit excesses in the land.”
First, notice the gaping loophole. Killing is allowed in cases of murder or “for spreading mischief in the land.” Murder is pretty straightforward, but “spreading mischief?” If anything begged for a careful and precise explanation, this phrase certainly would. But generations of Muslims are left to apply their own interpretation of what “mischief” means - with varying standards. Verse 7:103 of the Quran even indicates that merely rejecting Muhammad and the Quran would qualify.

Secondly, note the broader context of this verse. It turns out that this isn’t a divine command to Muslims after all. It’s a recounting of a rule that was given to the Jews. It isn’t an admonition against killing. It’s an indictment against the Jews for violating the law given to them. “Any one” doesn’t mean “anyone,” but rather “any one” of the Jews.

Any application to Muslims would have to apply only to Muslims - as in Muslim on Muslim murder within the brotherhood of believers. In fact, the context of the verse is the murder of Abel by Cain. Historically, this verse has never been interpreted by Islamic scholars to mean that Allah places equal value on the lives of non-Muslims. The Quran says that restitution for murder is bound by the law of equality (2:178) and that non-believers are not equal to Muslims (39:09). Muhammad affirmed that while a Muslim may be punished with death for killing a fellow Muslim, they should never be slain for killing a non-believer.

Rather than encouraging tolerance, Sura 5 as a whole is actually an incitement of hatred with a hint of violence. Jews and Christians are explicitly cursed as ‘wicked’ people with ‘diseased hearts’ and as hateful ‘blasphemers’ respectively. Muhammad goes on to coyly remind his people that Allah loves those who “fight” in his service - and it’s fairly obvious who the enemy is.

Muslim apologists conveniently leave out the fact that the gruesome verse which follows 5:32 actually mandates killing in the case of the aforementioned “mischief”. It even suggests crucifixion and “the cutting off of hands and feet from opposite sides.”

Together, verses 5:32-33 actually provide the basis for blasphemy laws, in which people are executed for insulting or questioning Islam. Ironically then, the very part of the Quran that apologists use to portray Islam as a non-violent religion has long been used as justification for making verbal offense into a capital crime.

So, the Quran's best example of moral instruction is a passage which actually mandates the torture and execution of those deemed a threat to Islamic hegemony...

With this being the best that Islam has to offer, it’s not hard to guess why the religion contributes over a thousand deadly terrorist attacks to the world each and every year."