Muslim mother accused in UK honor murder of teen implicates husband, CNN dissembles about Islam's justification for practice

Typical Islamic supremacist dissembling, aided and abetted by CNN: "Prosecutor Afzal says 'no faith on Earth' justifies killing."

Unfortunately, that is not true. Why does it matter whether or not there are Islamic teachings that justify honor killing? In order to help clarify for authorities what they are and why they happen, so that future honor killings may possibly be prevented. Muslims commit 91 percent of honor killings worldwide. A manual of Islamic law certified as a reliable guide to Sunni orthodoxy by Al-Azhar University, the most respected authority in Sunni Islam, says that "retaliation is obligatory against anyone who kills a human being purely intentionally and without right." However, "not subject to retaliation" is "a father or mother (or their fathers or mothers) for killing their offspring, or offspring's offspring." ('Umdat al-Salik o1.1-2). In other words, someone who kills his child incurs no legal penalty under Islamic law.

The Palestinian Authority gives pardons or suspended sentences for honor murders. Iraqi women have asked for tougher sentences for Islamic honor murderers, who get off lightly now. Syria in 2009 scrapped a law limiting the length of sentences for honor killings, but "the new law says a man can still benefit from extenuating circumstances in crimes of passion or honour 'provided he serves a prison term of no less than two years in the case of killing.'" And in 2003 the Jordanian Parliament voted down on Islamic grounds a provision designed to stiffen penalties for honor killings. Al-Jazeera reported that "Islamists and conservatives said the laws violated religious traditions and would destroy families and values."

In light of all this, until authorities get the courage to tell the truth about honor killing, there will be many more such murders.

"Mother accused in UK 'honor murder' of teen implicates husband," by Richard Allen Greene for CNN, July 10 (thanks to all who sent this in):

London (CNN) -- In a trial that has been front-page news in Britain, a woman accused with her husband of killing their daughter in an alleged "honor murder" abruptly changed her defense this week and implicated her husband in the teen's death.

Ifitkar Ahmed and his wife Farzana are on trial in Chester, England, accused of killing their daughter Shafilea, 17...in September 2003. They have pleaded not guilty.

Newspapers, television and radio have all been reporting on the prosecution case that Shafilea's parents killed her because they felt her "western" lifestyle brought shame on the family.

On Monday, Farzana said she had seen her husband attack Shafilea. She said she tried to intervene to protect the girl, but that her husband pushed her away and punched her, CNN affiliate ITV reported.

"Extremely scared," she fled the room and stayed in a bedroom with other children until she heard a car leaving 20 minutes later.

When her husband returned alone, she asked where their daughter was.

"If you care for your dear life and that of your children, don't ever ask me this question again," he told her, ITV reported.

Shafilea's sister testified last month that she saw her parents kill Shafilea by stuffing a plastic bag into her mouth.

Alesha Ahmed, Shafilea's younger sister, did not tell police she had seen the killing until 2010, ITV reported.

Farzana Ahmed testified Monday that only one of their children, Mevish, was present when she saw her husband attacking Shafilea.

Reliable figures of the number of honor murders around the world are hard to come by, but the United Nations Population Fund has estimated there could be 5,000 per year.

So-called "honor murders" are a significant enough problem in Britain that the country's Crown Prosecution Service has an expert specializing in cases where members of a family kill relatives over behavior which they say shames the family.

Family convicted in 'honor murders'

The prosecutor, Nazir Afzal, told CNN earlier this year that convicting perpetrators can be difficult.

"There is a wall of silence around this, and people are not prepared to talk," he said.

But Afzal insisted that it was "absolutely important that you bring every single person to justice because you want to deter other people from doing it."

There is a perception that the crime is particularly common among Muslims, but one vocal British campaigner says not all honor violence is perpetrated by Muslims.

Jasvinder Sanghera, who was the victim of a forced marriage, is not Muslim; she is Sikh.

"Significant cases are happening within South Asian communities, be it Pakistani, Indian, Sikh, Muslim, Kurdish, Iranian, Middle Eastern communities," she said.

Prosecutor Afzal says "no faith on Earth" justifies killing....

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"... 'no faith on Earth' justifies killing."---

Then you haven't heard about an ideology called Islam, Mr.

There was an article about this before, I can't remember when, exactly. But I remember commenting at the time on the oddness of the younger sister, Alesha, giving police information after she had been *arrested in connection with a burglary* at her home. I do wonder what was going on with that.

''London (CNN) -- In a trial that has been front-page news in Britain,''

Unfortunately, not true. The tabloids are far more interested in Tom Cruise's divorce, and the quality papers relegate it to a couple of columns towards the back pages.

But the fact this vile hag, Farzana, is now changing her story, is interesting. Anything to save her own miserable hide, I suppose. I just hope the jury listens to Alesha, and sentences this evil pair to life imprisonment, although I would much prefer the death penalty.

The prosecutor sounds muslim.

You don't suppose the disgusting 'rezali mehil' is in fact Farzana, or Iftikar, or is related ?

On another note, re what the article says about Sikhs and honour 'violence' - I don't know enough about it to say, but a forced marriage, whilst abhorrent, inexcusable, and against the law, is *not* the same as being *murdered* for wearing a skimpy t-shirt.

Don't you just admire our superb Western intelligentsia? They take their role so seriously...even take the time to become experts on comparitive religion. Amazing...

Jan, you might be interested in reading Jasvinder Sanghera's autobiography, Shame. She makes it very clear that Sikhs as well as Muslims slaughter their daughters for trivial reasons. Forced marriage is only the tip of the iceberg. Domestic violence is rampant in the Sikh community, and Mrs Sanghera's own sister was honour-murdered.

She describes in gruesome detail how many such murders are disguised as accidents or suicides. ("Father accidentally runs over daughter while backing out of garage at home...") Although the official statistics for Britain are one honour murder a month, Mrs Sanghera estimates them as more likely to be one a week, with the Sikh porportion being very comparable to that of the Muslims.

Ask rather why the Sikh community imitates the domestic customs of the Muslims. Ask why Sikhism exists in the first place. It was a desperate attempt of the Punjabi community to retain their Hindu roots in a form sufficiently monotheistic to appease their Muslim conquerors. Although the Sikhs resisted Islam, they were nevertheless influenced by it.

"Significant cases are happening within South Asian communities, be it Pakistani, Indian, Sikh, Muslim, Kurdish, Iranian, Middle Eastern communities..."

There is a desperate attempt here by Mr Greene to twist Mrs Sanghera's words by conflating groups that are not comparable. He assumes the reader won't know the difference between nationality (Pakistani, Indian, Iranian), religion (Sikh, Muslim), ethnic group (Kurdish) or geographical region (South Asia, Middle East - the latter not being a subset of the former). Anything, it seems, to deflect attention from Islam, instead of asking what the Islamic and Sikh philosophies might have in common.

But note the glaring omission. If it is a problem with "South Asian communities", where are the Hindus? Do they refrain from daughter-slaughter because they are too busy burning widows, marching for bovine rights and planning acts of terrorism to impose a caste system on Britain? Or have the Hindus managed to keep up with the twenty-first century?

Why are some cultures adaptable while others are closed and rigid? That is the question they should be asking.

There is no such thing as honour or integrity in the islamic cult - just lies, violence, hatred, murder and deceit

Thanks for that information, Diana. I didn't know that about Sikhism, and will certainly get, and read, the autobiography you mention. Cheers.

The other questions are why is the church silent and why are the feminists not up in arms about this? They bang on about 'glass ceilings', etc., etc - but never a word about what true feminists should be campaigning about. If they say nothing, no government will acknowledge the problem, or do anything about it - all they worry about is tiny fringe minorities, invert marriage, etc - it remains the elephant in the room, which is now pretty well full with its excrement. PC rules, to our ultimate anihilation

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