Saudi Arabia considers law against insulting Islam

This is the kind of law that many in the mainstream media want to bring to the West, as well. "Saudi Arabia considers law against insulting Islam," from Reuters, July 15 (thanks to all who sent this in):

(Reuters) - Saudi Arabia is studying new regulations to criminalise insulting Islam, including in social media, and the law could carry heavy penalties, a Saudi paper said on Sunday.

The potential regulations come five months after a Saudi blogger and columnist Hamza Kashgari, 23, was arrested for tweeting comments deemed as insulting the Prophet Mohammad. Kashgari said there were things he liked and disliked about him.

"Within the next two months the Shura Council will reveal the outcome of study on the regulations to combat the criticism of the basic tenets of Islamic sharia," unnamed sources with knowledge of the matter told al-Watan, adding that there could be "severe punishments" for violators.

Criticism penalised under the law would include that of the Prophet, early Muslim figures and clerics, it said.

"The (regulations) are important at the present time because violations over social networks on the Internet have been observed in the past months," the sources said.

Saudi Arabia follows a strict version of Sunni Islamic law, referred to as Wahhabism. Blasphemy can be punishable by death.

A spokesman from the Shura Council, the governments all-appointed consultative body, did not respond to calls for comment.

Kashgari's case set off a debate in Saudi Arabia, a close US ally for decades and leading world oil exporter, on whether repentance could save convicts from the death penalty.

Kashgari fled the country in February, a few days after his twitter posts, but was later arrested by police in Malaysia en route to New Zealand....

Saudi analyst Jamal Khashoggi said the law required extensive public debate.

"I would rather have this law discussed by the public first. It should not only be debated by the Shura, it should be debated in newspapers first because it can be misused," Khashoggi said.

"I don't want anything to affect my freedom and we don't want Saudi Arabia to be another Iran."

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Saudi Arabia follows a strict version of Sunni Islamic law, referred to as Wahhabism.

Only non-Muslim Westerners anxious to distinguish Islam itself from some imaginary hologram called they have invented called "radical Islamism" use the term "Wahhabism".

Blasphemy can be punishable by death.

Yes: under garden-variety mainstream Islamic law -- not just under "Wahhabism".

The devout country Sowdi Barbaria,
according to Allah who hates freedom of speech (and Christians)!!

Q. 5:73 "They do blaspheme who say: Allah is one of three in a Trinity (God of Christians): for there is no god except One God. If they desist not from their word (of blasphemy), verily a grievous penalty will befall the blasphemers among them."

Saudi Arabia follows a strict version of Sunni Islamic law, referred to as Wahhabism.

Only non-Muslim Westerners anxious to distinguish Islam itself from some imaginary hologram they have invented called "radical Islamism" use the term "Wahhabism".

Blasphemy can be punishable by death.

Yes: under garden-variety mainstream Islamic law -- not just under "Wahhabism".

"Blasphemy can be punishable by death"

Exactly right. "Freedom of speech" is "blasphemy" in Islam, any kind, anywhere, anytime. Only exception was when it was suppressed from Islamic "freedom of expression" during European colonialism, when Islamic countries almost started to modernize. But not now, they're regressing back to 7th century barbaric norms ushered in by Ayatollahs and mullas in the 21st century. Saudis and the rest are just being true to their Koranic text. Allah said so, allegedly, per 3rd caliph Uthman, that blasphemy is severely punishable, often by by death, and so it goes. Why the "extensive" public debate? Done deal, per Sharia. Their "debate" will be no more than a finger wagging lecture warning them to not go there. No-Freedom-of-Speech is what this is about, eg., Blasphemy.

Insulting 'the prophet' in alphabetical order:

Mohammed was an assassin, barbarian, bigamist, bandit, butcher, charlatan, conman, corrupter, deceiver, extortionist, gangster, gigolo, impostor, lecher, liar, megalomaniac, misogynist, murderer, oppressor, parasite, pedophile, plagiarizer, predator, psychopath, racketeer, rapist, sadist, slaver, terrorist, torturer and thug.

http://crombouke.blogspot.com/2010/01/exorcising-mohammed-conman-from-minds.html

There's scope for additions as there are a few letters unrepresented. Any ideas?

"There's scope for additions as there are a few letters unrepresented. Any ideas?"

Fiend

Kidnapper

Narcissist

Warlord

a Zero

;-)

How reassuring to see that our 'allies' are so civilised. This is repugnant barbarism. If only we could discover a practical alternative to oil, for without that, Saudi Arabia would collapse into insignificance.

Islam, doesn't need to be further insulted. It's insulting enough.

Saudis follow the Sunni Wahabi Islam. In contrast,the Shias of Iran,Iraq,Behrain and Afghanistan follow a different type of Islam. Si what is right to Shias is 'haraam' in the sight of Sunni Saudis.So there will be volumes of lawsuits between the Muslim sects themselves,each one accusing the other that they have violated the true principles of Islam.Nice fun to watch the Sunni vs Shia vs Ahmediaya vs Ismaili vs Sufi vs Aghakhani etc!

Slander/Blasphemy: In shariah, slander means anything that might offend (insult) a Muslim, even if it is true: “… The reality of tale-bearing lies in divulging a secret, in revealing something confidential whose disclosure is resented. A person should not speak of anything he notices about people besides that which benefits a Muslim to relate or prevent disobedience.” (‘Umdat al-Salik, r3.1)

No matter where, when, what or how Islam is an insult to our human dignity. I can assure you that the Islam is intent on destroying Israel and America and won’t be stopped by appeasement. They are not interested in political solutions.

They don’t want welfare—their animosity is not caused by hunger or poverty or anything of the sort. They understand only one thing: total and complete conquest of the West and the destruction of anyone who does not bow to them and their dangerous and out-of-date ideology of hate and revenge.

The Reuters article at first our look is attempting to make us believe the Saudis are up against hate-mongering, islamophobic, bigoted lies and insults, probably involving racism and incitement to war and general mayhem.

Only by looking closer we discover that "the Shura Council will ....combat the criticism of the basic tenets of Islamic sharia."


Criticism is to be disallowed. As if it wasn't before.

Danish has a few letters not available to the English-speaking islamorealist and I add "ærekær", "ønsketænker" and "åndsfortærende".

Respectively "with a sensitive honor that is easily injured", a "wishful dreamer" and "mind-numbing".


This oppresive mind set is exactly why Maher Arar now ants to get a Visa to travel to this Sunni/Whahhabi nation to steep his children in the art of taqqiay and for Jihad in canada one day.
The guy is a liar and was never tortured in Syria but the
Democrats in the US ate-up is BS about rendition when thet truth is that he was caught trying to enter the USA from Tunisia by himself on a canadian Passport as a Syrian.

Arar told the CBC in 2003 that he was treated very well by the USA, but, only JORDAN would let him back on a return flight because Tunisia feared he and his family would make an Asylum claim since they just had fled canada with the RCMP on their tial.
CAIR canada ahd coached Arar to not help canada expose terror cells, they help Arar when he was in Boston at the radical Mosque , and Nihad Awad is in a CTV.ca video admitting that CAIR was behind Arar's lawfare andthat they supported him in the USA in the 2001-2002 era when he lived near the Boston airport used on 9/11.

The MSM doesn't care about the truth when it comes to jihadist and islamic supremacy goons.
One day the leftist/liberal will wake up and see the Blasphemy Laws for islam will land them in jail if they dare link islam ot 9/11 .

But the good news is that the islamist will start killing the Liberal/leftist useful idiots first.

Saudi Arabia considers law against insulting Islam
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My only surprise is that this isn't *already* on the books in Saudi Arabia. It has already been the de facto law there.

But I imagine we are about to see a massive crackdown on "social media" there now.

More:

Blasphemy can be punishable by death.
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As LemonLime points, out, this is not just under "Wahhabism", but under mainstream Islam.

In any case, "Wahhabism" was never intended to be anything new, but just a return to orthodox Islam.

More:

"I don't want anything to affect my freedom and we don't want Saudi Arabia to be another Iran."

What is it now?
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Just grimly laughable. Saudi Arabia-along with Iran-is already in the top five (or should that be bottom five?) strict Shari'ah states.

Sean wrote:

Insulting 'the prophet' in alphabetical order:

Mohammed was an assassin, barbarian, bigamist, bandit, butcher, charlatan, conman, corrupter, deceiver, extortionist, gangster, gigolo, impostor, lecher, liar, megalomaniac, misogynist, murderer, oppressor, parasite, pedophile, plagiarizer, predator, psychopath, racketeer, rapist, sadist, slaver, terrorist, torturer and thug.

There's scope for additions as there are a few letters unrepresented. Any ideas?
..................................

That's quite a list, Sean.

For new categories, how about false prophet, hostage-taker, jihadist (obviously), and war-lord?

A few more for the letters you already represent would be caravan-raider, pirate, polygamist, and thief.

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