Sharia in action: Saudi man dies after chase by religious police for loud car radio

A loud car radio! Abdulrahman Ahmed al-Ghamdi may have been having fun. And remember: "Allah did not create man so that he could have fun. The aim of creation was for mankind to be put to the test through hardship and prayer. An Islamic regime must be serious in every field. There are no jokes in Islam. There is no humor in Islam. There is no fun in Islam. There can be no fun and joy in whatever is serious." -- Ayatollah Khomeini

Also, if he was listening to music, that is haram:

Hadith Qudsi 19:5: "The Prophet said that Allah commanded him to destroy all the musical instruments, idols, crosses and all the trappings of ignorance." (The Hadith Qudsi, or holy Hadith, are those in which Muhammad transmits the words of Allah, although those words are not in the Qur'an.)

Muhammad also said:

(1) "Allah Mighty and Majestic sent me as a guidance and mercy to believers and commanded me to do away with musical instruments, flutes, strings, crucifixes, and the affair of the pre-Islamic period of ignorance."

(2) "On the Day of Resurrection, Allah will pour molten lead into the ears of whoever sits listening to a songstress."

(3) "Song makes hypocrisy grow in the heart as water does herbage."

(4) "This community will experience the swallowing up of some people by the earth, metamorphosis of some into animals, and being rained upon with stones." Someone asked, "When will this be, O Messenger of Allah?" and he said, "When songstresses and musical instruments appear and wine is held to be lawful."

(5) "There will be peoples of my Community who will hold fornication, silk, wine, and musical instruments to be lawful ...." -- 'Umdat al-Salik r40.0

"Saudi man dies after chase by religious police for loud car radio," from Reuters, July 9:

JEDDAH, SAUDI ARABIA—A Saudi man was killed and his wife and two children were injured when their car crashed off a bridge while being pursued by religious police in the conservative Islamic kingdom, a spokesman for the religious police said on Monday.
In Saudi Arabia, a monarchy that follows a strict version of Sunni Islam, the religious police patrol the streets to enforce gender segregation and ensure the public behave in accordance with their strict Islamic teachings.

Formally known as the Commission for the Promotion of Virtue and the Prevention of Vice (CPVPV), religious police officers arrest those who do not comply with their rules. In March the commission’s head banned car pursuits, which had led to several fatal accidents.

Family members told Saudi Arabia’s al-Watan newspaper that the chase began when a CPVPV officer confronted Abdulrahman Ahmed al-Ghamdi, 35, and his family while he was returning home from an amusement park in the southern province of al-Baha. They said the loud volume of Ghamdi’s car radio prompted the confrontation.

The car sped off, police in pursuit, and crashed over a bridge, killing Ghamdi. His 9-year-old son is in a coma and his wife had her arm amputated as a result of the accident, al-Watan reported. His younger daughter, 4, was in stable condition in hospital.

Nasser al-Zahrani, a spokesman for the CPVPV in al-Baha confirmed the report. “There is a committee set up and an investigation ongoing to look into the incident,” he said....

The religious police have been trying to soften their image after gaining the reputation of being aggressive following several fatal accidents, prompting criticism at home and abroad. The decision to ban car chases was not widely accepted by all members of the religious police....

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DP111 | July 9, 2012 7:05 AM | Reply

JEDDAH, SAUDI ARABIA—A Saudi man was killed and his wife and two children were injured when their car crashed off a bridge while being pursued by religious police in the conservative Islamic kingdom, a spokesman for the religious police said on Monday.

In Saudi Arabia, a monarchy that follows a strict version of Sunni Islam, the religious police patrol the streets to enforce gender segregation and ensure the public behave in accordance with their strict Islamic teachings.
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So a country that beheads people for adultery, chops off hands and all the rest, is a conservative nation? I mean are they like the conservative party in the UK, or Republicans in the US?

But if the EDL demonstrates against the ongoing rapes of young White girls by Pakistani and Bangladeshi Muslim gangs, the EDL is FAR RIGHT.

Jaladhi | July 9, 2012 7:36 AM | Reply

The question in my mind is why these dumb Ahmadis insist that they are Muslims when Muslims themselves refuse to do so and are ready to kill them if they(Ahmadis) call themselves Muslims. They should have left Islam a long ago and joined the humanity. Sayonara Islam. Good riddance!! But then Islam makes all Muslims brain dead, Ahmadi or Sunni or Shia or Sufi.

Jaladhi replied to comment from Jaladhi | July 9, 2012 9:08 AM | Reply

OOPs, posted on the wrong thread!! It should be on the Ahamadi thread!!

PMK | July 9, 2012 9:53 AM | Reply

"There is no fun in Islam."

But there is an amusement park in Saudi Arabia? One wonders what specifications it has to meet to operate in the kingdom.

Also, what could this family have been listening to on the radio? Doesn't the government limit what can be broadcast?

Albert Teague | July 9, 2012 12:15 PM | Reply

Also, if he was listening to music, that is haram:

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that's funny, another contradiction in Islam....... if music is Haram in Islam then why does Saudi Arabia have singers then? I could name them all.. and the list is as follows

Males
Khalid Abdulrahman
Abdul Aziz Abdul Rahman
Rashed Al-Majid
Ibrahim El Hamaki
Abass Ibrahim
Talal Maddah
Qusai
Rabeh Sager
Mohammed Abdu

Females
Ibtisam Lutfi
Aseel Omran
Waed (real name: Hanan Bakr Younes... black woman of possibly Somalian or Northern Sudanese descent)

if music is so Haram in Islam and Saudi Arabia is the Islamic heartland then these people should not have music careers. turns out that the muzzies are bigger hypocrites than i thought lol this is funny indeed

gravenimage replied to comment from Albert Teague | July 9, 2012 4:13 PM | Reply

Sharia in action: Saudi man dies after chase by religious police for loud car radio
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In the civilized West playing your car radio too loudly is a minor misdemeanor, rarely even meriting a ticket.

Not so in Dar-al-Islam...

And, as noted, Islam hates music.

The religious police have been trying to soften their image after gaining the reputation of being aggressive following several fatal accidents, prompting criticism at home and abroad. The decision to ban car chases was not widely accepted by all members of the religious police....
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I'm sure. They wouldn't have wanted to have missed the chance to kill this husband and father and maim his family for *playing the radio too lout*, after all...

As for "softening their image", this is just laughable. The whole point of the "religious police" is to terrorize people for running afoul of Islam's grotesque strictures.

Albert Teague wrote:

that's funny, another contradiction in Islam....... if music is Haram in Islam then why does Saudi Arabia have singers then? I could name them all..
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Well, yeah, Albert—many Muslims *are* big hypocrites, Saudis perhaps more than most. Life under Shari'ah would be even more unbearable if so many of them were not.

Not that I'm excusing this hypocrisy—which countenances oppression of anyone who cant' manage to "get away with it".

But Islam does allow "Nasheeds"—screeching paeans to the Qur'an and the other texts of Islam, accompanied only by percussion instruments. These are seriously ugly "songs".

I believe at least some on your list are Nasheed singers.

There is—surprise, surprise—a great deal of controversy over whether women can sing Nasheeds—and if so, whether they can only sing to other women.

As for your list of female singers, at least one is pretty sad.

According to Wikipedia, Ibtisam Lutfi was one of Saudi Arabia's first female singers. She began her career singing at wedding feasts—that would mean she was just singling to other women—in the 1960s and over the next two decades she became famous in her native country as well as in Egypt. She retired from singing in the mid–1980s due to the opposition of her father—that would have been when she was in her 30s. It is not known today whether she is alive or dead.

David, Thailand | July 9, 2012 6:04 PM | Reply

"The religious police have been trying to soften their image after gaining the reputation of being aggressive following several fatal accidents, prompting criticism at home and abroad."

This is the part I do not understand. If the CPVPV are enforcing Allah's law why should they be tolerant of infidel ways or ignore breaches of Sharia in order to soften their image? At which point in their image building campaign will they start stoning rape victims with daisies?

Seems to me that Allah is either perfect or imperfect, and if the former then the authorities should enforce His law regardless of what the people think.

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