UK: Muslim prisoners given microwaves during Ramadan, sparking fury among other inmates

"The Muslim lads kicked up a stink last year over the food they received for Ramadan. And guess what? The authorities gave in and gave the green light. It's a f**king liberty. If the non-Muslims asked for this, they'd be told where to go."

Indeed.

"Fellow inmates express anger over Muslims getting microwaves during 'Ramadan fast' in UK jail," from ANI, July 21 (thanks to The Religion of Peace):

London, July 22 (ANI): Muslim prisoners being provided with microwaves in the jail to warm up food during their Ramadan fast has sparked off fury among other inmates in a jail in Leicestershire.

Lags at the Gartree lifer's jail are furious over the Muslims getting special treatment.

According to the Daily Express, Muslim inmates had moaned over the quality of last year's grub, which was served cold in flasks at the end of the fasting period, following which they threatened to strike.

"The Muslim lads kicked up a stink last year over the food they received for Ramadan. And guess what? The authorities gave in and gave the green light. It's a f**king liberty. If the non-Muslims asked for this, they'd be told where to go," the paper quoted an inmate, as saying....

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My theory about religious accommodations is that the accommodations (or other remdies) themselves must be drafted to be religiously neutral. This would mean -- microwaves for everyone or no one. Simple.

Muslim inmates had moaned over the quality of last year's grub

But ...but ...but from a few postings down I thought that "One important benefit of fasting is that it helps you to understand the suffering and pain of the poor. It also allows human beings to understand how those who do not have enough money for a meal survive through the day."

All of us here know that Ramadumb is a joke. Go without all day, then stuff your face at night.
These imbeciles should not have been given microwave ovens, nor complain about the food. Let them have moicrowaves only on the condition that are given cold bacon sandwiches and can use their new toys to warm them up!

It's important to discuss definitions. Eating two times a day is not fasting. Take it from someone who fasted for 17 days. Ramadan is really about overeating twice a day. It has nothing to do with true fasting and does not promote religiosity. Like seemingly everything about Islam, Ramadan is just a hollow ritual. But we have come to expect this for in Islam untruths are regarded as truths.

if they are in prison they are being punished and there should be no accomodation for them or indeed anyone else.

I think that all prisonsers should be given vegetarian meals anyhow and if these guys want to observe ramabombadam then that is their problem.

perhaps then if ramabombadam is so very important to moslems and they can't observe it in prison then they may decide not to commit crimes.

then, should they be mentally capeable of such a rational thought, they may realise that mohammed wasn't a prophet but a dirty old man with a taste for little girls.

"Ramadan 'will cause even more transport chaos during the Olympics as worshippers squeeze on to non-Games lanes'.
"Local councillor Abdal Ullah warned of 'traffic chaos'
"Area around Olympic Park has 250,000 Muslims and almost 100 mosques.
"There will be 3,000 Muslim Olympians but many have special dispensation.
"It is the first time Ramadan has fallen on an Olympics since Moscow 1980.
"Londoners also warned to expect roads to 'look and feel different' from Monday as work on Olympic-only traffic lanes nears completion."


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2176531/Ramadan-2012-add-Londons-Olympic-transport-woes.html#ixzz21OJB3Aav

Ramadan 'will cause even more transport chaos during the Olympics as worshippers squeeze on to non-Games lanes'.
Local councillor Abdal Ullah warned of 'traffic chaos'.
Area around Olympic Park has 250,000 Muslims and almost 100 mosques."

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2176531/Ramadan-2012-add-Londons-Olympic-transport-woes.html#ixzz21OJB3Aav

I definitely agree about vegetarian food in jails. It would solve so many problems - not least, some of the health and behaviour issues that affect young men who have previously subsisted on junk food.

If it was good enough for Daniel and his friends at the Babylonian court it should be good enough for crooks in jail...

Since they are 'fasting', why give them anything during the whole month?

So o o . Am I getting this right ?? 'Religious leaders' have given 'special dispensation' for Muslim atheletes competing in the Games, and Muslim lifers in HMP Gartree are getting extraordinary priviliges. All very puzzling. For starters it would be interesting to read the details of the 'special dispensation' edict. . I bet that it's ripe with contradictions. . And for main course, why the Hell are prison authorities discriminating ?

Quite soon, they'll be complaining that the kuffar have supplied defective microwave ovens and leaking radiation is causing sterility. If only.

Just give 'em dog food to eat.

Woof. Woof. Mad Max. :-)

as a non muslim i am surprised and shocked by the ignorant and shameful comments i have read here. most of you need to get a life, grow up, and maybe learn the truth about muslims and ramadan before opening your foul mouths. as a non religious person,one of my daily prayers is "oh lord help me to keep my big mouth shut until i know what i am talking about. Amen"

Strolling back through the old threads, I discover a comment carefully laid at the very tail-end of a thread, accusing the regular commenters here of being ignorant foul-mouthed haters; presumably mr 'jedburgh' wrote it in hopes of confusing or scaring off new readers lobbing in here for the first time via google who may not know much about Islam.

The person calling himself 'jedburgh' is either genuinely ignorant about Muslims and Islam, or else is deliberately lying.

All the regular posters here have not only read the entirety of the Qur'an - one of the most tedious, mind-twisting, seriously unpleasant screeds ever produced - but have also explored a sufficiency of the *other* Islamic texts that most ordinary westerners don't hear all that much about, such as, for example, the canonical Sira, or Life of Mohammed, and the Sahih ('reliable') Hadiths, such as the Sahih Muslim and the Sahih Bukhari, and even some of the Islamic 'law' books.

A significant percentage of regular posters here have lived and worked in Muslim lands; others have lived, or live, in or near heavily-Islamised areas, whether in 'the West', in Africa or in India and South-East Asia; and their negative assessment of Islam, and of the Ummah, or Mohammedan Mob, is based on long and close and unpleasant experience and observation.

Anyway, here are a few samples from the Mohammedan texts (and they are not cherry-picked for their hatefulness; **plenty** more where those came from).


QURAN 9: 111
YUSUF ALI TRANSLATION
“‘God [allah] has purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the Garden (of Paradise); they fight in His Cause, and slay and are slain…”.

Dawood translation: - “Allah has purchased of the faithful their lives and worldly goods and in return has promised them the Garden. They will fight for His cause, slay and be slain.”

Mohammed ordered the assassination of poets - including a very old man, and a young mother - who had criticised or satirised him.

His early biographer, Ishaq, records that he said, “I have been made victorious through terror”; this is also the record of the Hadith [Sahih Bukhari: Vol 4, Bk 52, no. 220]. The Hadith has him saying, “War is deceit” [Sahih Bukhari, Vol 4, Bk 52, no. 268: “narrated Abu Huraira – Allah’s Apostle called, ‘War is deceit’.”]. **That** is Islam’s ideal man.

On the necessity of being rude to non-Muslims:

"It was also reported that it is forbidden to say salaam to Jews and Christians, because the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Do not initiate the greeting of salaam to a Jew or Christian, and if you meet them in the street, push them to the narrowest part of the road.” (Narrated by Muslim, 2167)".

Another lovely peaceful Hadith:

Bukhari
Volume 4, Book 52, Number 283: 
Narrated Abu Juhaifa:
I asked Ali, "Do you have the knowledge of any Divine Inspiration besides what is in Allah's Book?" 'Ali replied, "No, by Him Who splits the grain of corn and creates the soul. I don't think we have such knowledge, but we have the ability of understanding which Allah may endow a person with, so that he may understand the Qur'an, and we have what is written in this paper as well." I asked, "What is written in this paper?" He replied, "(The regulations of) blood-money, the freeing of captives, and the judgment that no Muslim should be killed for killing an infidel."

A Muslim text that envisages Muslim genocide of Jews before the Day of Judgement:

From Volume 4, Book 52, Number 176 & 177 of the Sahih Bukhari edition of the Hadith. The title of this chapter is, "Fighting for the Cause of Allah (Jihaad)"
Volume 4, Book 52, Number 176:

Allah's Apostle said, "You (i.e. Muslims) will fight with the Jews till some of them will hide behind stones. The stones will (betray them) saying, 'O 'Abdullah (i.e. slave of Allah)! There is a Jew hiding behind me; so kill him.' "

More bloodthirstiness, from a popular Hadith anthology that can be bought, in English translation, from any bog-standard Mohammedan online bookshop:

"When judgment day arrives, Allah will give every Muslim a Jew or Christian to kill so that the Muslim will not enter into hell fire." -- Mohammed (Mishkat Al-Messabih, vol. 2, no. 5552.)

Another nasty text from the Quran, exposing the simple fact that in Islam there is no Golden Rule: there is one rule for Muslims, another for behaviour toward the despised Infidels, the najis kuffar.

"Muhammad is Allah's Apostle. Those who follow him are ruthless to the unbelievers but merciful to one another” (Qur'an, Sura 48:29).

The Qur’an several times (Surah 3:117; Surah 5:49, 5:56 and 5:57) expressly forbids Muslims to befriend, or to ally themselves with, unbelievers, with Jews or with Christians.

Ishaq [early, canonical biographer of Mohammed]: 204 - “‘Men, do you know what you are pledging yourselves to in swearing allegiance to this man [Muhammad]?’ ‘Yes. In swearing allegiance to him we are pledging to wage war against all mankind.’”

Ishaq [early, canonical biographer of Mohammed] :231 - “Muslims are one ummah (community) to the exclusion of all men. Believers are friends of one another to the exclusion of all outsiders.”

And jedburgh accuses **us** of being 'hateful'.

One of the best articles I have ever read about Islam, written in 1994.

http://www.newenglishreview.org/blog_direct_link.cfm/blog_id/26087

Monday, 22 February 2010
From The Annals Of Serendip: Patrick L. Moore

"FROM "COLD WAR" TO GUERRA FRIA?"

(also may be read here:

http://www.ewtn.com/library/ISSUES/GUERRA.HTM

Another excellent article, this time on Islam's doctrines of deception. If you are new to this site and this subject, and have found your way in here half by accident: **read it**.

It will make your skin crawl. But it will **explain** a whole hell of a lot.

http://www.meforum.org/2095/islams-doctrines-of-deception

Islam's doctrines of deception
by Raymond Ibrahim
Jane's Islamic Affairs Analyst
October 2008

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