Cameron McWhirter of the Wall Street Journal whitewashes Murfreesboro mosque, Hamas-linked CAIR

In "Tennessee Mosque Plans to Open After Many Hurdles," by Cameron McWhirter in the Wall Street Journal, August 9, we're told that the Muslim community in Murfreesboro, Tennessee, just wants to "build bridges" with the non-Muslims there, and that these poor bridge-builders have received bomb threats, and that one lawsuit against the mosque said that "residents would be 'irreparably harmed by the risk of terrorism generated by proselytizing for Islam' if the mosque opened."

"The risk of terrorism generated by proselytizing for Islam"? That just sounds nutty to the average American, and Cameron McWhirter does nothing to dispel the impression: no statistical or anecdotal evidence about the many, many converts to Islam in America who have gotten involved in jihad terror activity, including John Walker Lindh, who was found fighting alongside the Taliban and al-Qaeda in Afghanistan; Adam Gadahn, who rose high in al-Qaeda and became the first American charged with treason since World War II; Carlos Bledsoe, the Arkansas military recruiting station jihad murderer; Muhammad Hussain, the would-be jihad bomber in Baltimore; and so many others.

But it is clear that McWhirter isn't interested in offering facts at all, but only in convincing you that the Murfreesboro mega-mosque planners are innocent victims of "bigotry." He identifies the Hamas-linked Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) as "a Washington-based Muslim civil liberties group." He doesn't tell you that CAIR is an unindicted co-conspirator in a Hamas terror funding case — so named by the Justice Department. Nor does he mention that CAIR operatives have repeatedly refused to denounce Hamas and Hizballah as terrorist groups. He says nothing about how several former CAIR officials have been convicted of various crimes related to jihad terror. Nor does he mention that CAIR’s cofounder and longtime Board chairman (Omar Ahmad), as well as its chief spokesman (Ibrahim Hooper), have made Islamic supremacist statements, or that its California chapter distributed posters telling Muslims not to talk to the FBI.

He also interviewed me:

Robert Spencer, director of Jihad Watch, a blog critical of Islam, condemned the mosque's opening. He said in an email that most mosques in America teach "Islamic supremacism, and hatred and contempt for Jews and Christians."

Mr. Spencer and others who attack Islam are misrepresenting the religion and trying to frighten people with "manufactured issues like Murfreesboro," said Ibrahim Hooper, a CAIR spokesman. Mosque leaders in Murfreesboro say they only wish to practice their faith in peace.

This appears to be an unsupported assertion from me, swiftly batted down by none other than Honest Ibe Hooper of Hamas-linked CAIR, an unimpeachable authority if there ever was one. But this is what I actually wrote to Cameron McWhirter:

The problems with the Murfreesboro mosque are chiefly the Muslim Brotherhood ties of mosque leaders, and their manifest dishonesty throughout this process. As far as the doubling in the number of mosques, four separate studies conducted in 1998, 2004, 2007 and 2011 all found that 80% of U.S. mosques were teaching jihad, Islamic supremacism, and hatred and contempt for Jews and Christians. There are no countervailing studies that challenge these results. Yet U.S. officials continue to ignore this and to fail to call upon U.S. Muslim leaders to reform and teach against the elements of Islam that are incompatible with Constitutional values and freedoms. This bodes extremely ill for the future.

Here is more detail on those studies (not that Cameron McWhirter asked):

In 1998, Sheikh Muhammad Hisham Kabbani, a Sufi leader, visited 114 mosques in the United States. Then he gave testimony before a State Department Open Forum in January 1999, and asserted that 80% of American mosques taught the "extremist ideology."

Then there was the Center for Religious Freedom's 2005 study, and the Mapping Sharia Project's 2008 study. Each independently showed that upwards of 80% of mosques in America were preaching hatred of Jews and Christians and the necessity ultimately to impose Islamic rule.

And in the summer of 2011 came another study showing that only 19% of mosques in U.S. don't teach jihad violence and/or Islamic supremacism.

Maybe he didn't quote me mentioning these studies specifically because Hooper was unable to offer any evidence to refute them.

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In the nature of things bridges are just that: narrow passageways connecting two areas that are otherwise similar but separate.
I prefer the analogy of a border crossing: traffic both ways is easily controlled by the more paranoid society whose border guards are turned inwards.

One can only marvel at incredibly presumptous demands that religions should be enjoined to caparciously revise some of their most central normative teachings in order to bear full conformity to a flawed, ever-vacillating, Americanist human political document and its attendant jurisprudence, forged out of any number of questionable influences, as though said document embodied the most perfect, comprehensive expression of the nature of mankind and his teleological-oriented natural and supernatural purposes and ends, when it, of course, is nothing of the sort.

Better that we consider some of what Matt Abbott wrote in a recent book review:

We ought to call Liberty a god (as many of its early followers literally did) because, like any idol that man sets up for himself, its claims are deemed to surpass those of the God who made him and presented Himself to His own creatures as the Word Incarnate. Whereas Christ declared that His apostles were to "make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Ghost" and teaching them "to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you," Liberty declared, on the contrary, that the age-old baptism of nations was to be annulled and the Christian commonwealth abolished. Whereas Christ taught that political authority descends to man from God (even in the case of the procurator who unjustly sentenced Him to death), Liberty decreed that political authority ascends from the "sovereign will" of the people, so that even God's law could be subjected to popular repeal. Whereas Christ taught that His truth will make men free, Liberty insisted upon a previously unknown conception of social freedom: the mere absence of restraint on human action, save for that necessary to prevent violence and to protect the ownership, use and enjoyment of private property in the pursuit of whatever each individual deems to constitute happiness. Without the conformity of human law to divine law, the term "violence" inevitably contracted while the terms "property" and "happiness" expanded in proportion to what unrestrained human weakness and popular consensus demanded. Hence today human life in utero may, at the option of its "owner," be destroyed and disposed of as waste, or extracted and inventoried at the embryonic stage for sale as a consumer good. And not even the Christian opponents of these crimes against humanity are willing to oppose them on any ground but appeals to the same "sovereign" popular will that put Liberty on its pedestal and maintains it there by the religious devotion of its followers, Christians included....

That these principles would destroy the foundations of our civilization was always self-evident. Only forty years after Leo, Pope Pius XI observed that "With God and Jesus Christ, excluded from political life, with authority derived not from God but from man, the very basis of that authority has been taken away, because the chief reason of the distinction between ruler and subject has been eliminated. The result is that human society is tottering to its fall, because it has no longer a secure and solid foundation."

But perhaps not even Leo and Pius could have imagined the full extent of the civilizational debacle Liberty has wrought: not only the abortion holocaust, but an epidemic of divorce, the universal practice of contraception, the depopulation of Western nations, the relentless advance of homosexualism, the destruction of the family, the spread of orgiastic consumerism in a morally unbound "free" market, the debasement of art, literature, music, architecture and Western culture as a whole, and finally the emergence of a veritable neo-pagan social order in which resistant Christians increasingly face persecution for heresies against the orthodoxy of Liberty and not even the stoic virtues of the pagans of Greco-Roman antiquity are evident....

A bridge to Islam is truly a "bridge to nowhere". Nobody in their right mind would want to go there, nor would they want them to come here.
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And as for the bit about "they only wish to practice their faith in peace.":
translated, that means they want to be able to mutilate, beat, and even kill their wives and daughters without interference from the kuffars; and to be able to marry 10-year-old girls and to have several wives; and to be given privileged treatment in the workplace, schools, and all public facilities; and to be free of any and all criticism or accountability because it "offends" them.
"Practicing their faith in peace" means we give th4em whatever they want, with no questions asked.

A little off-topic, but it's interesting that in Chinese, the Statue of Liberty is called “自由女神“ (ziyou nv shen--v pronounced as u-umlaut) or "Goddess of Liberty".

I'd dissent from your position only in that I see liberty as a gift of God. In I Corinthians 3:17, Paul tells us "Where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is Liberty". The whole story of the Exodus is one of God giving liberty. The New Testament presents the redemption we have in Christ as setting us free from our bondage to sin and death.

Yes, liberty has been made into an idol, and that is wrong, wrong, WRONG. But, if you look at any good gift of God, it, too has been made into an idol by the sinful imagination of man. To get to the real basic stuff, think of human reproduction, fertility, rain and sun in their seasons, the sea, the land, the heavenly bodies, the produce of the soil, livestock, etc. etc., and note how all of these were deified by the ancient pagan peoples.

See how Carl Sagan worshiped the Cosmos as all that ever was and all that ever will be (borrowing words used of the Cosmic being Purusha in the Upanishads). Look at Marx's godlets of Historical Necessity and the Dialectic. Look at Nietzsche's worship of power. Indeed, modern so-called "atheists" are such only in relation to the Christian God; for if you listen to one long enough, you'll find the idol he worships. And, if you go and look at the Baby Boom generation, for whom God was told to take a hike during their school years, they are the same crowd that brought back such Babylonian abominations as astrology in a big way, a full millennium and a half after Augustine of Hippo (doubtlessly after reading Isaiah and Jeremiah) told us that such a belief was utter folly.

Maybe liberty, as a gift given the West by a kindly Creator and Redeemer, is being taken back because it has been abused ever since Rousseau wanted to compel the rest of us to be free (Mother of Oxymorons, there); and the instrument is the flow of Islam into our post-Christian lands. Maybe the instrument being used to teach our arrogant post-Christians not to blaspheme is Islam. I hope I'm wrong, but I finished reading the prophet Habbakuk not too long ago, and know that any nation or movement or natural phenomenon is an instrument for God's use.

"Mosque leaders in Murfreesboro say they only wish to practice their faith in peace."

Yes they do and according to islamic scriptures, there will be no peace until the entire world is under Islamic rule.
Dar Islam and Dar al Harb, the land of Islam and the land of non-Islam. The war will continue until the entire world is Dar Islam.


Kepha,

Liberty, rightly understood, is a gift from God; I don't see any quarrel there.

What constitutes rightful liberty is the question. And, sorry, but it does not entail separation of church and state any more than the soul can be separated from the body, and the body will somehow remain incorrupt.

Your hypothesis of the divine use of Muslims for our chastisement is intriguing, and kudos for you to suggest it here, of all places. It may be true, though one should always be cautious with such supernatural theories.

Let us be ever mindful that we've had in Colorado and Wisconsin what amounts to two Western secular liberal terrorist attacks in the US. Amazing how we seem to have a never-ending stream of Western secular liberals who keep misunderstanding the supposed, purported, alleged, moral, pure, pristine, sublime principles of Western secular liberality.

And let's retire this asinine notion that Nazism and Bolshevism somehow come from Islam. Rather, their genetic pedigree pinpoints them as yet another set of exotic embodied manifestations of the Western secular liberal swamp.

There's that term again - "bridge building." I wonder who loves it more - the Islamists who use it or the dhimminis who accept it?

Wall Street Journal, more and more, is cited by left-leaning (even Obama-supporting) folks who make the case that conservative media folks "get it." I mean how much further right can you get than the Wall Street Journal?

Be assured that I'm just making a "pious speculation". I'm not trying to play prophet, for I believe that the office, in the sense of giving new revelation from God, ceased after John the Apostle finished the book of Revelation. It's just that I read the prophets of the Old Testament and see how God raised up the Mesopotamians against ancient Israel, and conclude that He's able to do the same today.

Every so often, I'm of the mind that perhaps the establishment of my denomination would be a good thing--especially when we see Obama using governmental power to force religious employers to violate conscience re birth control and abortion coverage. However, I keep in mind that when Paul told us that rulers are God's servants for our good, he was writing when the Pagan Nero was Emperor of Rome. The people of Judah survived a generation or so in the Babylonian Exile. Christians did not have a civil ruler confessing their faith until Agbar of Osrhoene converted ca. 150 A.D.--a good 120 years after Jesus' crucifixion, resurrection, and ascencion. If need be, we can live without being the establishment (which Islam cannot).

You'll have no argument from me about the viciousness of evolutionary materialism. More people were murdered, imprisoned, and displaced over the proper interpretation of Marx during the 20th century alone than suffered for the wrong kind of Christianity or none at all in the 15 centuries between the conversion of Constantine and Ruggles v. New York.

Apropos of nothing:

Fareed Zakaria in Newsweek promotes pro-Sharia Ground Zero mosque imam as a "moderate"

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/08/about-newsweeks-surrender-to-the.html

"A cottage industry of scaremongering has flourished in the West -- especially in the United States -- since 9/11. Experts extrapolate every trend they don't like, forging any serious study of the data. Many conservative commentators have written about the impending Islamization of Europe (Eurabia, they call it, to make you even more uncomfortable)....The ideological watchdogs have spent so much time with the documents of jihad that they have lost sight of the actual Muslim societies. Where they to step back, they would see a frustration with the fundamentalists, a desire for modernity (with some dignity and cultural pride for sure), and a search for practical solutions -- not a mass quest for immortality through death...."

(The Post-American World by Fareed Zakaria)

"Wall Street Journal, more and more, is cited by left-leaning (even Obama-supporting) folks who make the case that conservative media folks "get it." I mean how much further right can you get than the Wall Street Journal?".

I was wondering about the same thing, wildjew.

If I were to play the devils advocate, I would say that Cameron McWhirter had a limit on how many words his article could contain, and that he couldn't repeat everything that Spencer relayed in his initial response.

But I think that this is just another case of the right pushing the sharia threat onto the sidelines, because it's not " useful " to the right to highlight it at this time.

Too bad the late Daniel Pearl (who, BTW, worked for WSJ and was murdered in Pakistan by Al-Qaeda) isn't around to personally kick Cameron McWhirter's ass.

@Kepha and RX,
Please take your bullshit god discussion to some religious site and stop littering the pages here with your tedious musings about the nature of existence. This website is about politics, human rights, and freedom and social justice. It is not about god, Christ, and or other religious beliefs per se, but about the right of all people to practice their religion or none at all free from persecution.
You are entitled to your long-winded musings on god, but they are inappropriate topics for JW because they have nothing to do with the real purposes of JW and the interests of the vast majority of readers.

Mr. Spencer wrote to Cameron McWhirter, who ignored the information:

"…. 80% of U.S. mosques were teaching jihad, Islamic supremacism, and hatred and contempt for Jews and Christians. U.S. officials continue to ignore this and to fail to call upon U.S. Muslim leaders to reform and teach against the elements of Islam that are incompatible with Constitutional values and freedoms."

But what elements of Islam are compatible with Constitutional values and freedoms? The earlier verses of the Koran, the ones that were abrogated by the later? What would an imam preach to his congregation? "Allah told Mohammad that he shouldn’t go looking behind rocks for Jews to slay. Allah told Mohammad that he shouldn’t slay infidels wherever he finds them. Allah told Mohammad he shouldn’t butcher infidel men and divvy up their women among his warriors. Allah told Mohammad that he shouldn’t lie to Jews and infidels about his 'peaceful' intentions, and then turn to his friends with a wink and say, sotto voce, 'Suckers!'"

What exactly would be left in Islam to preach in any mosque, mega-sized or storefront? Aristotelian thought? A philosophy of reason, such as Objectivism? Perhaps the tenets of another religion. Hinduism? Scientology? Jeremiah Wright's brand of Christianity? Or Louis Farrakhan's brand of Islam? Critical Race Theory? It beggars the imagination what there is in Islam that isn't hostile to the Constitution and freedom.

Perhaps in your email to McWhirter you should have reminded him of what Omar Ahmad, the founder of the Council of American-Islamic Relations (CAIR), in 1998 said in a controversial interview:

"Islam isn't in America to be equal to any other religions, but to become dominant. The Koran, the Muslim book of scripture, should be the highest authority in America, and Islam the only accepted religion on earth."

That shouldn't be so shocking, because we also have Supreme Court justices who don’t think the Constitution is the highest authority in America, either (re Obamacare), not to mention Barack Obama.

But those "bridges to non-Muslims," insofar as Islamic doctrine is concerned, are merely avenues of invasion. Islam shouldn't be cut any slack, if one concedes it is an ideology compelling its followers to seek domination and the obliteration of individualism and freedom. From top to bottom, it is as evil and totalitarian as Nazism and Communism. And as debilitating and irrational as any other religion.

I am surprised that this article appeared in the Wall Street Journal. I wouldn't have been surprised to see it in the New York Times. See Tom Gross's excellent article on the lack of objectivitiy in the news columns of the New York Times. http://www.tomgrossmedia.com/NewYorkTimes.htm

Hi!
You might be interested to know that moderate, modern Fareed Zakaria, who talked about the Arab Spring as a flowering of multi-party Democracy, has been suspended by the NYT for plagiarism!

And I wonder how many other counts he'll have to own up to when his books and many other articles are scoured for plagiarized sources.

But hey, plagiarism is Sunna! Check out Al Qur'an!

Clown!

You snidely remarked: 'This website is about politics, human rights, and freedom and social justice. It is not about god, Christ, and or other religious beliefs per se, but about the right of all people to practice their religion or none at all free from persecution.'

You seem to be doing a bit of 'persecution' yourself! I'm an atheist, but I don't mind if a couple of posters want to discuss how many angels there are on the head of a pin!

Live and let live! Heavens above!

Kepha: Appreciate your general pious outlook on things, though I believe a confessional state is of great potential value and importance.

Darmanad: Yes, this is about politics, humans rights, freedom, and justice. And an immediate issue on this thread pertaining to those is Robert's call that the US government should intervene to call for religious believers to start shredding their foundational beliefs in order to have no conceptual conflict with whatever the prevailing liberal, post-modern strains of thought of the day might be, as mediated and espoused by Americanist constitutional jurisprudence. Perhaps prior to 1865, all religionists would have been required to uphold African chattle slavery as a blessed good, if Jihad Watch were to have its way.

You also fail to grasp that considerations pertaining to politics, human rights, freedom, and justice are integrally rooted in the nature of man's existence, and, therefore, religion.

Buraq: Thank you.

"…. 80% of U.S. mosques were teaching jihad, Islamic supremacism, and hatred and contempt for Jews and Christians. U.S. officials continue to ignore this and to fail to call upon U.S. Muslim leaders to reform and teach against the elements of Islam that are incompatible with Constitutional values and freedoms."

Did Robert check very Islamist Center or Mosqu in america on what they treach they childern or member. That muslum man who only vist 100 mosques out of 1200 mosque in america at that time cannot say 80% of the mosque reach jihad or hated against the jews and christian.

The earlier verses of the Koran, the ones that were abrogated by the later?

Incorrect the eary treaching of the Koran are still valid as the later one are. abrogated is than western inventing to attack Islam.

What's critically absent, and I repeat your critique;
"As far as the doubling in the number of mosques, four separate studies conducted in 1998, 2004, 2007 and 2011 all found that 80% of U.S. mosques were teaching jihad, Islamic supremacism, and hatred and contempt for Jews and Christians."
And, there's the rub!

As a loyal reader of JW, I am very much in agreement with
darmanad. I too wish to reprimand both RX and Kepha for their long, tidious and irrelevant comments on this [JW]
site.

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