"I ask Allah that the next season he’ll give us the opportunity to kill as many kafirs [non-believers] as we can, just to shred them to pieces"

Non-Muslims know well that only greasy Islamophobes believe that Islam is anything but a Religion of Peace. Yet somehow a steady stream of converts to the religion keep misunderstanding it as enjoining them to wage war against infidels. Yet nary a single Islamic organization in the U.S., Canada or Europe has a program to prevent converts and other young Muslims from misunderstanding Islam in this way.

"The Canadian who converted to jihad: Boxer turned militant killed in Dagestan," by Stewart Bell in the National Post, August 20 (thanks to all who sent this in):

In the video he shot inside his hut in the mountains of Dagestan last winter, William Plotnikov narrated as he panned from the black flag of jihad to three bearded rebels and their assault rifles.

Then he turned the camera on himself.

“I ask Allah that the next season he’ll give us the opportunity to kill as many kafirs [non-believers] as we can, just to shred them to pieces,” William said. “Allah is almighty.”

Watching the clip on the computer in his apartment north of Toronto last week, Vitaly Plotnikov looked both heartbroken and perplexed. It was hard for him to accept that this was his son.

“It’s just like a different person to me,” he said.

Russian security forces announced last month that they had killed William, a 23-year-old Canadian, during a gun battle in Dagestan. Since then, the Canadian government has been trying to verify the Russians’ account.

But in an interview with the National Post, Mr. Plotnikov confirmed William’s death and spoke for the first time about his son’s rapid transformation from Toronto teenager and champion boxer to Muslim convert and jihadist fighter.

What seemed to amaze Mr. Plotnikov most was how fast it all happened. His son only became interested in Islam in 2009, he said. Within a year, he had left Canada and by July he was dead. He had gone from convert to martyr in less than three years.

He is not the first radicalized Canadian to die under such circumstances, but he is believed to be the first Canadian convert to die fighting in the name of jihad— all the others having been born into their faith. His father said William became so radicalized he did not even consider the other Muslims he met to be true Muslims. He claimed that Canada and the U.S. were a source of evil for Muslims.

“How can the mind of a person be changed in such a short period of time?” Mr. Plotnikov asked inside the York Region apartment where he keeps William’s boxing medals in a copper trophy on a shelf....

How indeed? Intelligence and law enforcement officials are forbidden to investigate the true answer to that question, so they stumble along in the dark, muttering about how poverty causes terrorism. The consequences of this -- a catastrophic jihad attack that they were prevented from heading off by politically correct willful blindness about Islam -- have already come to pass at Fort Hood, and will again.

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One thing is for certain: As a parent, Vitaly Plotnikov is a failure. Shame on him for not stopping his degenerate son from becoming a Muslim. The moment that he heard his son utter the word "Islam," he should have turned the world upside down and inside out to make that POS understand right from wrong. It's one thing to be born into the filth that is Islam; it's another as a matter of choice. I have only four-letter words for his and his son's kind, and no shame to admit it.

“How can the mind of a person be changed in such a short period of time?” Mr. Plotnikov asked inside the York Region apartment where he keeps William’s boxing medals in a copper trophy on a shelf....

When one is destitute of a normal mental state, very easily--and that's not an excuse. Vitaly should collect everything that reminds him of his POS son and dump the heap in the incinerator--just get rid of any trace of his existence.

In any case, screw him and his son.

Islam: where freedom ends and slavery begins.

In keeping with political correctness - if anyone converts to Islam - in the west this should be celebrated.

Nevermind that if he decides to leave Islam and is threatened by Muslims who think he should be killed. [Which is not so PC and so ignored]

This man ended up on the battlefield - for Islam - off in Dagestan - but to many Muslims our civil society and way of life is also a battlefield.

They may not pick up a weapon - but desire to see it torn up nonetheless.

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But it is a lesson to all Muslims - who are taught to pray for the destruction of the west - be careful it is not yours you get.

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To answer @PGuud

This man has the right to mourn his son.

His trophies was where the boy's promise and his hopes in his son lay - before he came to the Religion of Peace.


It would be interesting to find who is hanging around - the boxing/other clubs looking to radicalize these kids.

As well as some acknowledgement by the state that Islam is a political, religious, as well as military system - and unlike other religions - this one needs to be checked.

Islam is rapidly becoming a magnet for psychopaths, criminals, misfits and lunatics of all backgrounds. I wonder what it is that attracts them?

Was just reading some astute person's random sampling of the Qur'an, in which they found that a majority of the verses of the Qur'an express antagonism toward non-Muslims:

"I am a non-systematic but very methodical student of the Qur'an. For years now I have followed one unvarying method of study. When the mood strikes me, I open the Qur'an to a randomly chosen sura, and start to read aloud. And, to my never-ceasing astonishment, virtually every time I do this, I encounter exactly the same thing. After a few brief lines — on occasion even poetical lines — about the greatness of Allah and his creation, the text suddenly switches from praise of Allah to lengthy enraged denunciations of those who reject Allah and his Prophet and imprecations of horrible eternal tortures upon them. Overwhelmingly, the main theme of the Koran is fury and hatred against non-Muslims, expressed in the most sadistic language ever placed between the covers of a single book."

The following is the section in which he summarizes his statistical analysis:

Here are the results of the larger study:

--- 106/201 (52.7%) is Hatred aimed at Infidels, Defined as:

*Threats towards infidels either in the after life or this life

*Degrading infidels by calling them evil, stupid, blind, deaf, liars, thankless, etc.

*Calls to fight against them.

*Verses that say “except the believers” when wishing death on nonbelievers were counted as hatred since avoiding death is not a positive to believers

*The threat or insult can be aimed at infidels in general or any specific infidel.

--- 50/201 (24.9%) Deals with believers, Defined as

*Mentioning them

*Saying they are righteous

*Saying they will get good things

*Any mentions of one of the prophets was snuck into this category too

--- 23/201 (11.4%) Deal with Allah,

*Who he is

*That he is almighty

*Any of his creations

--- 10/201 (5%) Deal with the Day of Doom or the Day of Judgment

*Either the Day of Doom when destruction is sent on the earth or

*Day of Judgment when all are judged before Allah

*Any message pertaining to how God records what men do was assigned this category

--- 4/201 (2%) Are Anti-Woman

*That it’s OK to beat a woman

*Women and slaves get married off but have no choice in the matter and is very self-serving to Muhammad or men in general.

--- 4/201 (2%) Deal with Giving to the Poor in Some Way

--- 2/201 (1%) Deal with Some Kind of Muslim Custom or Etiquette, for Instance

*How to divorce your wife

--- 1/201 (0.5%)disapproves of a man who murdered someone, but only because it was for the wrong reason to kill someone.

--- 1/201 (0.5%) actually says it is OK for people to have their religion while Muslims have theirs.

Over 50% of the Koran deals with nothing but hatred aimed at infidels. You will notice Allah is mentioned a lot, as well as the goodness of believers and the Day of Doom/Judgment, the former being a day when the Koran gleefully exclaims that Allah will send destruction to the earth and destroy the infidels. Notice how much of the Koran that deals with not just infidels but with the theme of believers verses nonbelievers, setting up believers as holy, righteous, almost perfect human beings and nonbelievers not just as wrong but as wretched scum. If you add up the number of verses that deal with infidels, believers, Allah, and the Day of Judgment/Doom, that percentage is a full 94%. This is really the only thing in the Koran as the Koran itself readily admits: “… This book is no other than a warning and a clear Koran, To warn whoever liveth; and, that against the Infidels sentence may be justly given.” Sura 36:69-70

You may notice that details outlining Muslim customs and etiquette do not take up much room in the Koran. In fact, Ramadan, from what I can tell, is only mentioned once in the Koran. You can see how seriously Muslims take Ramadan. Now imagine how seriously they take the rest of the 94% of the Koran.

There is no moral system outlined in the Koran—with the exception of allowing men to beat their wives, sleep with their slaves, and there is an occasional, “give to the poor.” There certainly is no unequivocal “Do not kill”; “Do not steal”; or “Do not lie,” let alone any other insight into how to behave properly as a human being. Most of the “moral” guidance given in the Koran is not a restraint on humans but permission to do what they want—mostly for men to do what they want...

BUT ISLAM IS THE RELIGION OF PEACE!

AND ANYONE WHO THINKS OR SAYS OTHERWISE IS AN ISLAMOPHOBE!

"He had gone from convert to martyr in less than three years."
That ought to read:
"He had gone from convert to murderer in less than three years."
I wish journalists would stop supporting Islamic abuse of such terms as "martyr".
Killing and being killed for "Allah" is murder and suicide. It is not martyrdom.
The word "martyr" means witness. The early Christians witnessed to Christ and many were killed for doing so. They were martyrs. But they killed no one and they did not invite death for themselves.

Totally in agreement with you there, gerard.

“I ask Allah that the next season he’ll give us the opportunity to kill as many kafirs [non-believers] as we can, just to shred them to pieces,”

Islam in a nutshell...Once you understand that, you understand Islam...

I think it always has been Sean. Your list reflects pretty much the thugs that Mohammed gathered around him when he started spreading his "religion" with the sword.

And in the blood-red corner, we have Islam! Gloves filled with lead, punches below the belt, head butts and ignores the ref when told to break and rabbit punches in the clinches!

So, why are we sticking to the Queensberry rules?

Next time the bell rings, exit the corner at a gallop and hoof Islam right between the legs! We'll talk about the rules after Islam has been stretchered out of the ring!

Clowns!

Kicking bad ass is America`s most important industry, one trillion dollars yearly is spent by the government to keep it growing. Twenty Five million Americans have jobs because asses have to be kicked. Finding enough asses to kick is the problem. An American invasion of Syria is needed; millions of bad asses are there to be kicked.

OT

In Pakistan, an illiterate child has been jailed for unknowingly burning the Quran. Where are the celebrities protesting for her?

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2191384/In-Pakistan-illiterate-child-jailed-unknowingly-burning-Quran-Where-celebrities-protesting-her.html#ixzz24HV9w0Gz

Amnesty urges Pakistan to reform blasphemy laws

ISLAMABAD: Amnesty International has urged Pakistan to reform its blasphemy laws and protect a young Christian girl arrested for allegedly burning pages inscribed with verses from the holy Quran.

Rimsha (previously also reported as Rifta), who is between 10 and 13 years old and is reported to have Down’s Syndrome, was taken into custody in a low-income area of Islamabad on Thursday after Muslim protestors demanded she be punished.
http://dawn.com/2012/08/22/amnesty-urges-pakistan-to-reform-blasphemy-laws/

It's beyond belief how Mo/allah makes his followers totally brain dead. How they worship murder and mayhem is just unbelievable? Do they qualify to called human beings - I think not!!

Dear PG, it is a little rough to blame dad for what deceived his son. As a parent, now a grandparent, it is very difficult to protect our children from the dangers that are out there. I know that we could argue that children who are raised on the Bible wouldn't fall for Islam. But that isn't the case. When I was in seminary I met a young man who wanted to be a pastor. He enrolled in the University of Kansas after graduating with a degree in theology. After his time there, he left his faith. KU is a big evolution school, if this young man could be fooled by this religion it doesn't surprise me that the youth above could by fooled. Maybe dad was too remote or maybe he was unknowing about the dangers of Islam, but dad's aren't omniscient. You are right though that we who know must continue to sound the warning about Islam. That make's organizations such as "Jihad Watch" so very important.

It figuers that the Islamic mindset would be like that. After all, in Sura 47 can be found the teaching "When you encounder the unbeliever strike off their heads, until you have made a graet salughter among them."
Wow,that's bad religion.


What attracts some people to Islam?

In one word - testosterone.

The thought process that gets evoked in reading such hate literature is anger against the 'others'. After that it does not matter if neither any actual harm was done nor there was any intent to harm. The seething anger remains, is stoked every Friday after prayers in their mosques and frequently blood thirsty processions ensue after prayers. This may all be leading into testosterone addiction - the feeling of charge and power and being in a group with similar arousal makes the boys all come together and bond in hate. But the fix is needed more often and more intense.In this state of body addiction, the mind cannot think and the person has surrendered to testosterone. After all, Islam means surrender. How apt a name! Surrendering to a body protein!

Judging by that adolescence-inspired terse accusation, I assume that you're a Faceless troll.....perhaps hiding behind your black veil?

Don't bend over.

Would a 'bad ass' include anyone who wants to use chemical weapons against his neighbors, especially Israel, and murder hundreds of thousands of innocent men, women and children?
Someone like the Syrian president, Bad Assad, perhaps......?!

If so, it's money well spent!

Clown!

Burag. Hi I do not get facebook's comments. what is he saying here?
M

Hi Miriam!

First,'facebook loser' uses the term 'asses to kick' meaning to persecute people without reason.
So, 'facebook loser' says that America spends trillions of dollars just to kick asses -- meaning spending a lot of money just to persecute people.
However, when there are no victims left, America needs to wrongly accuse another group of people and then kick their asses. Why? To justify spending a lot of money!

'facebook loser' is trying to funny/ironic. But, of course, he's a clown!

By the way, have Scotch on me!

thank you for the translation!!! I will defenitly have one and i will toast you in absentia!!!!!!!!!
M

Watching the clip on the computer in his apartment north of Toronto last week, Vitaly Plotnikov looked both heartbroken and perplexed. It was hard for him to accept that this was his son.

The father's incredulity is a bad sign. No doubt there has been a considerable and thick atmosphere of Leftist Family Values going on in the Plotnikov Family; which, needless to say, would explain the father's gullibly and unwittingly colluding incomprehension and his son's logical conclusion -- a microcosm of the problem of Leftism from the late 18th century to now.

now that Buraq has translated your post for me I will have the same answer for you as I have for defenderofislam: f...off!!!
M

"This man has the right to mourn his son. "

Not on our dime, he doesn't. When a man's son wants to mass murder us, then that morally incompetent fool of a failed father gets zero sympathy.

"morally incompetent fool of a failed father".

**Are you a parent**?

If so, do you have teenage/ adult children?

In Judaism, the whole point of the bar mitzvah is that, after age 13, the son - NOT his father - is deemed to be responsible for his own choices.

There is a point beyond which parents cannot and should not be held 100 percent responsible for the follies, let alone the sins, of their adult children.

This Russian man - nominally Christian, for in the article it is stated that his son was **baptised** as a child - moved from unfree/ semi-free Russia, to a free country, Canada, hoping for a better life for his children: specifically, to try to get *away* from 'Russian youth gangs'. We don't know whether they were a church-attending family. It should be noted that according to the article, William spent his early years in Western Siberia - which is hardly a place one would associate with much of a Muslim presence, it seems likely he wasn't exposed to it at all.

Alas, in Canada his son encountered Muslim da'wa artists...which he might have done in Russia, also. And since the son first encountered Islam in 2009 - i.e. 3 years ago - that means that the son (dead now at age 23) was **twenty years old**.

The article says: "After graduating from high school, William enrolled in the international travel and tourism program at Toronto’s Seneca College. He also began asking life’s Big Questions. He reflected in his diary about human existence. He read the Bible, the Torah and the Koran."

So if you're going to blame anyone, perhaps you should blame the modern Canadian education system, *not* the home environment...And again, this young adult - 18, 19, 20 - made his own stupid choices: it says he read the Bible as well as the Koran.

Be realistic. Exactly how much influence or control, in our society, does a parent have over his or her son or daughter who has finished high school, who is 18, 19, 20? How responsible, exactly, are they for the choices that that young man or woman makes, at twenty?

One can advise, or warn; one has *some* economic control, so long as the young person lives under the parental roof; but parents, even the very best of parents, are neither omniscient nor omnipotent.

You know very, very little about how this kid was raised, from infancy to age twenty. I don't think you can sweepingly conclude that *all* the fault is the father's (what about the mother? ) and that if Mr Plotnikov had only been a better father his son would not have converted to Islam.

I remember a different case, also in Canada: the teenage son of Indian Hindu immigrants converted to Islam while at high school - he fell for Muslim da'wa associated with a 'prayer room' at the school - and ended up getting arrested for taking part in a jihad plot. The father, fairly early on in the process of his son's being sucked into Islam, had even gone to the school principal and demanded that the prayer room be shut down. The father did everything that any good parent could be expected to do, to try to get his son away from the cult. He tried persuasions, he tried appropriate punishments. **Nothing** worked. That father had NO illusions about Islam, so far as I could tell; and presumably, during the kid's upbringing, Islam would not have been spoken about in a positive manner. Yet he, too, failed to save his son.


Interesting. It hadn't hitherto been so clear to me how CULPABLY naive school staff are in providing prayer rooms.
Naivety, while an acceptable stage in childhood, can be an ugly quality in an adult. But it is part of the cult of political correctness to be naive - and cynical at the same time. A grotesque and utterly modern phenomenon.

What a disgrace! Here I am coming to Canada and working my a$$ off to get an education, earn a fraction of the freedoms and perhaps provide to my children the material lifestyle this guy was privileged to have been BORN INTO.

But this guys throws all that away and that too for some evil like Islam? What a waste!

There seem to be a lot of youngsters in the West who completely fail to appreciate the freedoms and material prosperity their societies bestows on them without them having to yearn for it for years, or having to earn it with a lifetime of devotion and hard work like someone like me has to. They take it for granted, these spoiled brats! What a waste of a life and tremendous opportunities.

did you read the story - all of it?

This kid was *not* 'born into' Canadian freedom and affluence.

He was born in *Russia* and raised there - his dad was an oil industry worker, and then worked in a bank- until he was a young teen.

*Then* the family moved to Canada: where the father did *exactly* what you are doing: worked his ass off to provide for his family and get them an education.

Here's where Mr Plotnikov Snr worked:

"Mr. Plotnikov immediately felt at home in Toronto. Soon after arriving, he got a job stocking shelves at a Highland Farms supermarket on Dufferin Street".

So: he didn't go on benefits; he got a very basic job and worked hard.

The son's boxing coach - who is *not* Muslim - described Mr Plotnikov thus:

'“I know that his [William's] father used to work hard, very hard. He did everything possible just to support his family,” Mr. Gitman said. “A very nice man.”

This was a family of NON-MUSLIM Russian immigrants to Canada. Their son converted to Islam in young adulthood (around age 20).

"There is a point beyond which parents cannot and should not be held 100 percent responsible for the follies, let alone the sins, of their adult children."

I'm not holding him 100 percent responsible; but I'm certainly witholding even an ounce of sympathy for him. If I were him, I'd want to hang myself. I'd rather have no children, or a child who's a lesbian transsexual alcoholic grifter gambler kleptomaniac on welfare, than a child who grows up killing his fellow citizens and wanting to mass-kill as many as possible -- in the name of an ideology, moreover, as pernicious as Nazism, if not worse than Nazism (and certainly far deadlier now and for the foreseeable future).n Good God, this man's son was a grotesque monster championing the most ghoulishly detestable hideously fanatical catastrophically dangerous ideology in all world history. And I wish to God I were exaggerating.


Once again, LemonLime, I couldn't agree with you more
anent the fact that Islam is the most horrific, hateful,
murderous ideology that ever existed in this world.

I am forever grateful to JW and to those good citizens
who add their comments to this site.

I am in favor of having an open PUBLIC trial as to wether
or not Islam is truely a legitimate religion or something
else, i.e., a criminal entity/enterprise. The most crucial
evidence in this trial would be the Koran itself.

IMO Islam would be found guilty and their protection under our first amendment would be nulified and all mosques
and Islamic organizations would be shut down & declared
illegal.

Muslims living in America would then be given the choice
to convert AWAY from Islam to ANY other belief or non-belief. In other words, become a Christian, a Hindu, A Jew,
a Buddhist, an Atheist or anything BUT a Muslim. Their other
choice: Leave this country for some Islamic country and be
free to practice their hatred among themselves.

If only it were to happen...the world would have a
vastly better chance to enjoy peace. Ah well, one can dream,
can't one?

Peace, Paul R.


Well, there are a lot of us failed parents out there, PGuud, and our problem kids have not necessarily become Muslims. I wouuldn't be so hard on poor Vitaly Plotnikov myself. It's his son William who chose a bad road.

@Saleem Smith

I guess you've done the math, which I have not. However, I concur that the frequent sudden shifts between poetic devotion and self-righteous rage against the Kufr grated on me when I've tried to read the Qur'an. Chalk it up to my own religion, but sometimes when I've read it, I've felt defiled (as in rolling in hog manure; not in the sense that it challenges my sins, since it actually blesses some of the things that I don't really like about myself). Further, while I don't usually like Thomas Carlyle, I agree with him that only a very stern sense of duty can get me from one cover of the Qur'an to the other.

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