Ibn Warraq: Walter Scott, The Talisman, the Crusades, Richard I of England and Saladin: Myths, Legends and History (Part 40)

Walter Scott, The Talisman, the Crusades, Richard I of England and Saladin: Myths, Legends and History
by Ibn Warraq
Part 40
Part 1 / Part 2 / Part 3 / Part 4 / Part 5 / Part 6 / Part 7 / Part 8 / Part 9 / Part 10 / Part 11 / Part 12 / Part 13 / Part 14 / Part 15 / Part 16 / Part 17 / Part 18 / Part 19 / Part 20 / Part 21 / Part 22 / Part 23 / Part 24 / Part 25 / Part 26 / Part 27 / Part 28 / Part 29 / Part 30 / Part 31 / Part 32 / Part 33 / Part 34 / Part 35 / Part 36 / Part 37 / Part 38 / Part 39

OTHER EXAMPLES OF SALADIN’S VINDICTIVENESS, AND CRUELTY.

Saladin did not show much mercy to the Crusaders taken prisoner after the latter’s unsuccessful attack on the town of Hama in August 1178. As Ehrenkreutz says, “The prisoners of war were delivered to Saladin. If some of them expected magnanimity from the Muslim leader, they were in for tragic disappointment. Saladin still smarted from his last confrontation with the Crusaders; the prisoners furnished a convenient outlet for his vindictiveness. They were brought into his presence and summarily executed, one after another, by members of his retinue. The preacher Diya al-Din al-Tabari began the bloodbath by personally decapitating a few of the defenceless captives. Another divine, Sulayman al-Maghribi, followed his example, then emir Aytghan ibn Yaruq and others did so. Only chancellor [and historian] Imad al-Din al-Isfahani refused to join in the butchery”. This account is based Ibn Al-Athir [1], Ibn Wasil [2], and ‘Imad al-Din al-Isfahani [3].

Lane-Poole and Gibb, on the whole, chose to ignore Saladin’s early years, which were spent in fighting fellow Muslims. They concentrated on Saladin’s struggles against the Crusaders. But the reality is that from the beginning of his independent reign in 1174 to his death in 1193, Saladin spent twelve years fighting Muslims (mainly the family and partisans of the Zangids), and only five years in pursuing Jihad, the Holy War against the Latin Kingdom and the Third Crusade. [4]

Saladin seems at times to have little control over the excesses of his troops, and at other times seems to allow that they had every right to booty and plunder. Here is how Ehrenkreutz characterises the comportment of Saladin’s troops after the surrender of Sinjar in December, 1182: “the defenders must have given the Ayyubid army a lot of trouble, because once they entered the city, the population had to endure the wild excesses of Saladin’s enraged soldiers, who broke all discipline in greed of plunder. That Sinjar was captured during Ramadan demonstrated the lack of concern Saladin and his followers had about restrictive religious injunctions”. [178]

BURNING OF CHURCHES.

There are indeed other examples of Saladin’s willingness to fight, kill, or burn churches during Ramadan. Let us look at the town of Lydda. Here is how the Encyclopaedia of Islam, Second Edition, describes the town of Lydda [under; “Ludd”] and its magnificent cathedral: “the Byzantine church [of Lydda] is described by all the early Christian travellers. On the eve of the invasion of the Crusaders in 1099, the Muslims destroyed it again. The Crusaders found Ludd [Lydda] and Ramla deserted, and thus were easily able to establish a corridor from Jaffa to Jersualem, whence they could mount their attack on the Holy City as well as widen their hold on central and southern Palestine. In Ludd [Lydda] they built in 1150 a new cathedral with much splendour and magnificence, over the remains of the previous Byzantine church and the Saint’s tomb.” In September 1191, Wednesday 3 Ramadan, Saladin, as Bahā’ al-Dīn tells us, “viewed the town and viewed its church and the great size of its construction, then ordered its demolition and also the demolition of the castle at Ramla”. [5] If that were not sacrilege enough, two days later, i.e., Friday 5 Ramadan, Saladin had some local Christians executed because they were found to be carrying letters to the “enemy” on them.

Saladin also ordered the destruction of another beautiful church, that of the Church of the Virgin in the town of Tartus, or Tortosa (also known as Antartus), which he captured in July 1188. Here is Bahā’ al-Dīn Ibn Shaddād’s description: “[Saladin] pressed on with the demolition of the city wall until it was all done, and then he demolished the church, an important one in their [Crusaders’] eyes and the object of of pilgrimage from all over their lands. He ordered the city to be torched and everything was burnt. Fire roared through the palaces and houses, while our voices were raised in cries of “There is no god but God” and “God is Great”. He stayed there, carrying out this destruction until 11 July, then he left for Jabala.” [6] The Church was either rebuilt later in the same year 1188, or just possibly survived the holocaust. [7]

FURTHER EXECUTIONS: HUMAN SACRIFICE.

After their successful naval attack on the Crusaders’ flotilla off Aidhab, on the west coast of the Red Sea in 1183, Muslims killed most of the Crusaders on the spot, while one hundred and seventy others were captured and taken to the capital where Saladin specifically instructed that they be paraded in the major Egyptian cities and then decapitated. Ibn al-Athir [8] adds the horrific detail that some of the prisoners were sent to Mina, a place five kilometers to the east of Mecca. It plays an important part in the rituals associated with the pilgrimage to Mecca. The Christian prisoners were to be sacrificed- ritually slaughtered by having their throats cut -- in place of goats or sheep.

[1] Ibid., p.260.
[2] Ibn Wāṣil. Mufarrij al-Kurūb, Cairo, 1953-60, 2:71.
[3] ‘Imad al-Din al-Isfahani. Al-Barq al-Shami, vol.iii. ed. Mustafa al-Hiyari, Amman, 1986, pp.130-131.
[4] P.M.Holt. Saladin and His Admirers: A Biographical Reassessment, in BSOAS, Vol.46, No.2 (1983),pp.235-239.
[5] Bahā’ al-Dīn Ibn Shaddād, op.cit, p.181.
[6] Ibid.,p.83.
[7] Van Berchem, Journal Asiatique, 1902, pp424-425.
[8] Ibn al-Athir, op.,cit., p.290.

Ibn Warraq is the author of numerous books, including Why the West Is Best and Why I Am Not A Muslim.

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Robert Spencer is a fucking liar, Ayubi was one of the greatest warriors of all time. After all the slaughtering that the Byzantine crusaders commited, any ordinary person would have slaughtered them like the dirty sheep that they were but he spared them. Did you know that Robert's family are Greek, he wouldn't have been here today if it wasn't for Saladen al ayubi sparing his worthless ancestors.

When Ayububi liberated Jeruaselem there was a wedding taking place inside a church, when his men approached the church he ordered them to stand down untill the wedding is over, out of respect for his christian brothers and the house of God.

Now fuck you spencer fucking son of a dick riding whore go suck some dry cock you begga. Fucking queer lowlife basement geek. Please do us all a favour and jump of a bridge.

".... all the slaughtering that the Byzantine crusaders"

A pedohammedan talking about crusaders. Besides thief, buffoon. The non-pedohameddan crusades were done in retaliation for the pedohammedan crusades.

Cool historic revisionism, bro!

"... son of a dick riding whore go suck some dry cock you begga. Fucking queer"

This is what lots of 'bacha bazi' does to pathological sociopaths like 'D'; Cool projection bias, bro!.

"A pedohammedan talking about crusaders. Besides thief, buffoon. The non-pedohameddan crusades were done in retaliation for the pedohammedan crusades."

No they FUCKING wern't go sell that shit to someone else because I'm not buying it! When Umar ibn al khattab (second Caliph) entered Jerusalem in humility. He walked in with not he, the Caliph, but his servant comfortably riding on a camel. They had been taking turns walking and riding.

At one point in Jerusalem, the Christians asked him to pray in their church but he declined. He said he was afraid that in the future Muslims could use this as an excuse to take over the Church to build a Masjid(Mosque).

The Christians gave the key of the Church of Resurrection to Muslims to be responsible for its safety. This key is still with the Muslims today as a sign and symbol of the mutual trust.

The Christians in Jeruaselem were more than happy to live alongside the Muslims and Jews in peace its the white coloniast crusaders and their bloodthirsty pope who wanted to take over Jeruaselem from the Muslims and slaughtered millions of Muslims in the proscess. Even after Ayubi defeated the crusades the white coloniast are again back in Palestine under a new movement called ZIONISM after having killed 100 million Native Americans, 6 million Jews and now 1.1 million Iraqis not to mention all the atrocities that both the French and the British commited throughout history but ones again they've returned to what they do best slaughtering Muslims.

>'D'

Stopped reading there; Cool story, bro! http://is.gd/S4A5eq


Protip: Don't feed pedohammedan trolls with psychological projection.

The writer of this series, Ibn Warraq, provides citations to historical sources for his claims. The commenter "D" provided no evidence at all for his counter-claims.

Do the math.

back then before the liberal/leftist came to prominence to scourge the guilt of the white man the western peoples had guts and only faced the Islamist hordes to protect the Christians from the murderous Muslims ? nothing changes there i see but big big changes now in the way the west perceives the very real threat from Islam in the future when it all kicks off in Europe as it surely will history teaches us that, the useful idiots will say oh my what is this about i thought they were peaceful, that Islam was peaceful, well you have no excuses you have been warned time and time again the evidence is before you both in written text and from well educated people in the field

Notice that the Mohammedan began by using ordinary language and then simply *disintegrated*, letting it all hang out in one of the filthiest gutter riffs of vulgar invective I have ever read in any posting on this forum?

It's like watching a video clip of a man speaking who suddenly, about 2 / 3 of the way through, morphs into a screeching monkey leaping up and down and throwing handfuls of dung.

From Ibn Warraq's article:" Ibn al-Athir [8] adds the horrific detail that some of the prisoners were sent to Mina, a place five kilometers to the east of Mecca. It plays an important part in the rituals associated with the pilgrimage to Mecca. The Christian prisoners were to be sacrificed- ritually slaughtered by having their throats cut -- in place of goats or sheep."

Yup.

Islam is a de facto human sacrifice cult.

I become more and more convinced of that, each day.

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