Neil Armstrong, first man on the moon, dies at age 82

Besides everything that he obviously was, Neil Armstrong was a symbol of the high technological attainment of Western civilization, as well as of Islamic supremacist resentment and wish-fulfillment. I used to frequent an Afghan restaurant in the Washington, DC area that was run by observant Muslims; the wall decorations included Qur'an verses and a wonderful example of Islamic supremacist fantasy: a poster of an astronaut stepping out onto the lunar surface only to find a group of smiling Muslims already there. The caption was, "Houston, we have a problem." In any case, the food was terrific, despite the agitprop.

Neil Armstrong was also the target of more Islamic supremacist fantasy: there was (and is) a persistent claim on Islamic apologetic websites that he had actually heard the adhan, the Muslim call to prayer, while on the moon, and had converted to Islam -- a claim that this intensely private man was forced repeatedly to deny (details here).

Neil Armstrong did not hear the Muslim call to prayer while on the moon, and he never became a Muslim. He was, rather, a product of the West's rational and scientific traditions -- two disciplines that never flowered in an Islamic context because of the fundamental difference between Islamic cosmology centered around a God of pure will and the Judeo-Christian concept of God who is good and operates the universe according to consistent and observable laws.

His crowning achievement has already receded from the horizon of common attainment, and more regression is to come, as the West surrenders to savagery and barbarism instead of standing up for itself. May his memory be eternal.

(Oh, and speaking of mainstream media accuracy, NBC News reported on the death of "astronaut Neil Young." Yes, Neil Young sang that he felt like getting high, but not as high as the moon...)

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Neil Armstong: truly an epic example of Western greatness in the face of stone-age "Allah" worshipers bent upon destroying the supreme accomplishment of men such as this. God rest his soul!

Neil Armstrong, first man on the moon, dies at age 82
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I'm sorry to hear this. Neil Armstrong was a great hero of mine. I was nine years old—the age little Aisha was forced into "marriage" with the baleful Prophet of Islam, though I had never heard of this at the time—when he walked on the moon.

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Besides everything that he obviously was, Neil Armstrong was a symbol of the high technological attainment of Western civilization, as well as of Islamic supremacist resentment and wish-fulfillment.
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Yes—Neil Armstrong was an apt symbol of the curiosity, scientific achievement, and discipline of the West. All virtues notably lacking in Islam.

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Neil Armstrong was also the target of more Islamic supremacist fantasy: there was (and is) a persistent claim on Islamic apologetic websites that he had actually heard the adhan, the Muslim call to prayer, while on the moon, and had converted to Islam -- a claim that this intensely private man was forced repeatedly to deny (details here).
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I've heard this ludicrous fantasy, as well.

And it gets worse—the story also goes that Armstrong then converted to Islam on the spot. One of the "proofs" of this ridiculous story? That he then "moved to a Muslim country".

The tiny kernel of truth at the basis of this stupidity? Armstrong lived outside of Lebanon—the town of Lebanon, Ohio, that is—not the country in the Middle East.

No Adhan, no conversion, no move to Dar-al-Islam.

It's all bs—but damned persistent bs.

Here's a bit of the history of this idiocy:

"How Neil Armstrong became a Muslim"

http://www.answering-islam.org/Hoaxes/neil.html

You hear similar crap about how Columbus' navigator was Muslim—even though there is no historical evidence for this stupid story, either.

The truth is that Islam, with its "Inshallah fatalism" and pathological distrust of "Bi'da"—innovation—seldom leads to any new discoveries.

R.I.P. Neil Armstrong—an inspiration for us all.

Yes, it is sad, but after the honeymoon period of grief (a week at the most), I guess that the death of Neil Armstrong will be used as a propaganda tool by both Muslims (he converted to Islam) and Leftist conspirators (America never landed on the Moon, it was all faked) alike.
The memory of this great man will be exploited to the hilt by all the deceivers, cowards, traitors, ne'er do wells, Marxists and Muslim propagandists that occupy this planet. Just wait for the stones to move as all the low-lifes crawl out. It is very sad, but in today's political climate, only to be expected.


In July 1969 I was just five and a half. I can remember it. Our family had no TV so we all piled into our car and drove to my maternal grandfather's house, since he *did* have a TV, and there we sat in the living room and watched the broadcast.

Oddly enough I can't remember anything about the subsequent moon missions.

A good book to read that gives the human side of the moon missions - Andrew Chalkins' 'A Man on the Moon: The voyages of the Apollo Astronauts', which is based on in-depth interviews with all the men who took part in missions to land on the moon.

An example of how superior our Western civilisation is compared to the Middle East etc.

The fact Muslims tried to claim him and his achievements as their own fucking sickens me. Naturally, though, it doesn't surprise me in the SLIGHTEST.

Not only do they aggressively assert their Pak/Islamic identity in our nations, they also attempt to negate ours.

I don't know who I hate most: the slimy, stinking, out-of-date, scum far Left, or the Islamists.

There's a reason, why we celebrate sending man to the moon and Islam celebrates baccha baazi (sexual slavery of little boys).

Interestingly the link quotes a number of Muslims who also refute the ridiculous notion of Armstrong converting to Islam.

"It is sad that some Muslims make up stories that have a snowball effect and sooner or later become a "fact" that Muslims boast about can you imagine what impression we give to those who know about Armstrong?"

Did you miss that?

This whole Neil Armstrong post is very silly. He was a fine man and largely irrelevant to the argument, other than the fact that we have technology and they don't. Which I think everyone gets.

Neil Armstong also shows up in If the Sun Dies an essential book on the space program by Oriana Fallaci.

No, it is not silly. With Armstrong's passing, it's a chance to mark the historical record, to say what was and what wasn't, before Armstrong's conversion to Islam becomes a phony fact like Jeffrson's Iftar dinner.

I was very young and living in Ayrshire, Scotland, when my parents let me stay up to see Neil Armstrong walk on the moon. I still remember the moment - he was a true hero.

The Moon is made of cheese.

Cheese, and Islam, that is.

The Qur'an is perfect, and everything that Muhammad said is true.

Or is it?

What a life lived - Neil Armstrong - a credit to humanity - rest in peace!!

With Islam and Muslims there must be a sense of disappointment - they awoke from their inshallah slumber - and belief in their 'superior' Islamic knowledge - to find - hey these people are going to space!

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Islamic achievements were gained through conquest - that brought people together - within the expanding conquered regions and with this the sharing of knowledge.

[Today we have the internet]

Most of which was acquired from schools of thought or learning - already well established in the more advanced nations that were conquered and brought under Islamic control. Egypt, Persia, Syria.

Many of these countries were a part of the Roman Empire - say for example, the Syrian led Spain conquest - are supposed to have bought advancements in say building technology - but similar things can be seen in the Roman ruins of western Turkey.

After all the conquests had died down and the loot from the spoils spent - they were left with the ritual practises imposed on them - hoping in vain that - by doing them again and again - they would produce a different result.

It did not happen - besides for later conquests - namely of Constantinople and the renaissance of knowledge that flowed from those spoils - namely in the translation into Arabic of the Ancient Greek text - the Islamic world has remained in virtual stasis - for the better part of 1000 years.

Having woken up - now they assume they should be in charge again - in truth they never were. They were never able to take Europe - and thank god - because the magnificent desolation - would be here on earth!

...the fact that we have technology and they don't. Which I think everyone gets.

Just about everyone gets that they don't currently have strong technological capabilities. But there is a persistent bit of propaganda out there that in the past Islam was scientifically very creative. You may have missed this recent Jihad Watch story, which talks about a traveling exhibit that pretends Islamic societies were responsible for numerous scientific discoveries which were in fact made by others.

Historian Emmet Scott, in Muhammad and Charlemagne Revisted: The History of a Controversy, argues, I think persuasively, that the Dark Ages in Europe were a direct result of the explosion of Muslim conquests out of Arabia in the 7th century. Scott says there is little dispute among historians that at that time the main centers of classical civilization, which were not in Europe, but in North Africa, the Levant, and Anatolia, collapsed into a Dark Age due to the Muslim conquests, though the at-that-time-not-yet-Islamic Persia's invasions also played a part. What has been disputed is the cause of the European Dark Age, and even if it actually happened at all. Scott casts his net to a wider range of geographic and archaeological evidence than previous scholars, and shows that European economic life and classical traditions did decay to a relatively primitive state during the 7th century. That should not be surprising, given the fact that Europe was economically and culturally dependent on the much larger and richer cities of the Eastern Mediterranean and North Africa. Scott also says that the end of papyrus imports from Egypt to Europe, after the Islamic conquests, were a key factor in the breakdown of classical civilization in Europe and the onset of the Dark Ages there.

Scott marshals a great deal of evidence to demonstrate his points, including his claim, which a number of other historians have also made, that the so-called Germanic barbarians did not end classical civilization in Europe or precipitate the Dark Ages there. The conquering Germans largely gave up their own culture and assimilated themselves to the ways, mores, and culture of the Mediterranean classical civilization they invaded. The patterns of classical civilization, and its thriving international economic life, continued long after the so called fall of the Roman Empire to the Germans in the 5th century -- up until the time of the Islamic conquest of North Africa and the Eastern Mediterranean.

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My 8:56 pm comment above was supposed to be addressed to you, amazonas, but I forgot to do so...

My 8:56 pm comment above was supposed to be addressed to you, amazonas, but I forgot to do so...

Neil Armstrong was also the target of more Islamic supremacist fantasy: there was (and is) a persistent claim on Islamic apologetic websites that he had actually heard the adhan, the Muslim call to prayer, while on the moon, and had converted to Islam -- a claim that this intensely private man was forced repeatedly to deny

Actually, this was my first exposure to the fantasy views of Muslims.

When I was in the 6th or 7th grade (this was in India) in 1981/82, I had a classmate who unlike other Muslims seemed very calm and peaceful. One day, while conversing w/ him in class, I was surprised to know that he was a Muslim (I at that time couldn't make out just by names). Then he went on to tell me a variation of the above story.

His story was that when Armstrong got to the moon, he actually saw the word 'allah' written out there. As a result, when he came back to earth, he stated that there is no god but allah, and became a Muslim.

I had no idea who Armstrong was, but was shocked to hear that. I didn't think about it again, but a few years later, I did read in newspapers about Armstrong's denial.

I mentioned this incident on a past JW thread. One poster pointed out that there is nothing to indicate that Armstrong knew Arabic, while allah doesn't know any other language. My classmate never told me what language the writing was in.

The first Muslim in space has to be that Malay moron who was wondering about the qibla. Definitely not some American who took his job seriously.

Neil Armstrong, RIP!

One of the truly sad day for the Mankind. RIP.

Most of the great men in Western civilization were in fact Muslims, but the Joooooooooooooooooooooooz have rewritten history to hide the truth.

For example, did you know that Shakespeare was actually a Muslim whose real name was "Shayk al-Sapir"? http://www.guardian.co.uk/stage/2004/nov/18/theatre1

Claiming that anyone could hear anything while standing on the Moon shows, again, Islam's knowledge of Science is a cosmic-sized vacuum.
Sound needs air particles to carry sound vibrations. Sound, therefore, can't travel through a vacuum.

Clowns!

And to almost quote Dawkins: Western science flies you to the moon. Islam flies you into buildings!

It he had visited Pakistan they would have executed him for blasphemy for trampling on the face of Allah.

That Muslim's claim that Neil Armstrong converted to Islam is not surprising.

In one of my chats a Muslim claimed that Einstein also converted to Islam just before he died. The reason? Well he discovered that the Quran, which despite claiming that the Earth is flat and that Sun moves around the Earth and sets in it and rises from it, had discovered the theory of Relativity before him. He was so impressed that he converted to Islam, (still wondering why the Quran hadnt discovered the Theory of Everything that was still eluding him).

Among the others who converted to Islam, just before they died - Pope John Paul. Its surprising how many people converted to Islam, (just before they died of course).

PS - Talking about the West surrendering to savagery and barbarism instead of standing up for itself, during the Olympics, the Ukrainian feminist group FEMEN staged a (topless) protest at the 2012 Olympics in London in opposition to “bloody Islamist regimes,” which they accuse the IOC of supporting and they were arrested for doing so.

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2012/08/03/topless-feminist-protest-ukraine-london-olympic_n_1736224.html

That Muslim's claim that Neil Armstrong converted to Islam is not surprising.

In one of my chats a Muslim claimed that Einstein also converted to Islam just before he died. The reason? Well he discovered that the Quran, which despite claiming that the Earth is flat and that Sun moves around the Earth and sets in it and rises from it, had discovered the theory of Relativity before him. He was so impressed that he converted to Islam, (still wondering why the Quran hadnt discovered the Theory of Everything that was still eluding him).

Among the others who converted to Islam, just before they died - Pope John Paul. Its surprising how many people converted to Islam, (just before they died of course).

PS - Talking about the West surrendering to savagery and barbarism instead of standing up for itself, during the Olympics, the Ukrainian feminist group FEMEN staged a (topless) protest at the 2012 Olympics in London in opposition to “bloody Islamist regimes,” which they accuse the IOC of supporting and they were arrested for doing so.

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2012/08/03/topless-feminist-protest-ukraine-london-olympic_n_1736224.html

Linked at my site.

No doubt, the apologists for Islam will be ranting and raving.

We all leave physical world one day or the other but heroes such as Neil Armstrong become immortal and live for eternity.

RIP Neil Armstrong!

(No truth in Muslim lies that he became a Muslim for them everybody is born Muslim. Dumb morons!)


"What Went Wrong?"

This beautifully titled book by Bernard Lewis is interesting on the whole subject of that Islamic self-acquired and propagated attitude of their own separate superiority.

So I won't be sent to jail, or hear shrieks and cries for plagiarism or "racism", or who knows what.... here's a "paste" from Doctor Google, commercial leads deleted by me.

"
What Went Wrong?
Western Impact and Middle Eastern Response
Bernard Lewis
ISBN13: 9780195144208ISBN10: 0195144201 Hardback, 192 pages
Dec 2001,

Description
For many centuries, the world of Islam was in the forefront of human achievement--the foremost military and economic power in the world, the leader in the arts and sciences of civilization. Christian Europe, a remote land beyond its northwestern frontier, was seen as an outer darkness of barbarism and unbelief from which there was nothing to learn or to fear.

And then everything changed, as the previously despised West won victory after victory, first in the battlefield and the marketplace, then in almost every aspect of public and even private life.
In this intriguing volume, Bernard Lewis examines the anguished reaction of the Islamic world as it tried to understand why things had changed--how they had been overtaken, overshadowed, and to an increasing extent dominated by the West.

Lewis provides a fascinating portrait of a culture in turmoil. He shows how the Middle East turned its attention to understanding European weaponry and military tactics, commerce and industry, government and diplomacy, education and culture. Lewis highlights the striking differences between the Western and Middle Eastern cultures from the 18th to the 20th centuries through thought-provoking comparisons of such things as Christianity and Islam, music and the arts, the position of women, secularism and the civil society, the clock and the calendar."...end paste.

We need testicles in our National Government....right now.....in order to castrate, in the rhetorical sense, these wailing imams and mullahs who actually seem to be very good at their application of Goebbels'-style rank propaganda.

I wish we'd wake up from our narco-like "political correctness".


Islam was never ever ahead of the West as BL keep harping about. I like reading his stuff a lot, but in many cases he is flawed. He did not look at the evidence hard enough about the West during the so called Dark Ages. Islam had a upper hand through wars, but Islam produced NO scientific discoverers. I really mean NONE. There is absolutely no evidence of it. They hate science because it contradicts Quran in many ways, for instance the earth is flat; the sun goes around the earth; including a very telling false statement about the discredited Pregnancy description in the Quran.

I teach English as a Second Language at a university in the US. In one class, ten Saudis and one Iraqi (actually a Kurd, and proud of it), I mentioned the wonders of scientific achievement--a man walking on the moon for example. One fellow said he wasn't sure it really happened--it was staged in a Hollywood studio. I was surprised. I asked the class in general if they believed that men have really walked on the moon. They were polite and respectful--I am older, I am a teacher. But only one in the class would say that he was sure it actually happened--the Kurdish fellow. Almost all are graduate students. Disinformation has worked well it seems. Even those chosen to go study in the US don't believe that men actually walked on the moon. I feel sorry for them. But there are broader implications of this kind of thinking, too.

That is sinister.

It shows how Leftist/Muslim propaganda via the internet is being absorbed into the young.

Just another reason why Islamism and Marxism need to be utterly DESTROYED.

There are a lot of people who say that Armstrong's moon landing was faked. And there are a lot of plausible sounding arguments about the American flag's shadow on the moon, why we can't see the backdrop of trillions of stars in photos, etc...

But to keep it simple for any doubters, Muslim or otherwise, here is one incontrovertible piece of evidence.

There were altogether three reflectors left on the moon by
Apollos 11, 14 and 15. And when astronomers from all around the world want a precise measurement, they bounce lasers off them. They're exactly where NASA says they should be. Even a Muslim 'scientist' can check! :)

But of course, if anyone is terminally doubtful, and needs film evidence, then check out this YouTube video from 'Mythbusters'. It's less than 5 minutes!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmVxSFnjYCA

And might I just add, that if Muslims believe that their so-called prophet flew to 'the furthest mosque' on a winged horse and had a meal with a bunch of dead prophets and returned later the same night, then why on Earth do these clowns find it difficult to believe that Man has gone to the moon in a rocket?

Islamic myth trumps solid Science! You couldn't make it up!

Neil Armstrong was man who, in his own words, circumstances brought to prominence as the first to step foot on the moon. That he did so was due to the intense and existential rivalry between the West and the Soviet Bloc. Once the rivalry was over, public interest in supporting space exploration has been very shaky.

Islam provides an existential threat to the West as well, but perhaps even more insidious than the Red threat as we are being subverted from within. Since Moslum countries are universally backward, we don`t need a Neil Armstrong to demonstrate the superiority of Western science and technology. But neither do we need busy-bodies, Western or Moslum, handing Moslums excuses to exaggerate their contributions to science and technology. And any attempt on the part of Moslums within Western nations to appropriate recognition which is not their due must be stridently rejected.

muslim supremacists believe in and create all manner of insane conspiracy theories. For them it is not unusual. I was floored by some that phds recited to me as fact.

In the West conspiracy theorists are usually mentally ill and treated accordingly. No one except their fellow theorists even entertains their nonsense.

That you had a class full of muslim supremacists who don't believe the moon landing was real is no surprise to me at all.

I heard some doozies while I was an ESL teacher in Turkey. It should be noted that the majority of them always had profoundly racist and sexist undertones(even the ones told by the muslimas). It should be noted that these repulsive conspiracy theories were related by the same creatures who would practically beat their "Turks are not racist at all and we respect women" mantras into my skull.

I hate to state the obvious but belief in conspiracy theories (big, fat lies) is yet another gem of "muslim culture."

Cannot think of Neil Armstrong without hearing this poem by J G Magee:

"High Flight"

Oh! I have slipped the surly bonds of Earth
And danced the skies on laughter-silvered wings;
Sunward I’ve climbed, and joined the tumbling mirth
of sun-split clouds, — and done a hundred things
You have not dreamed of — wheeled and soared and swung
High in the sunlit silence. Hov’ring there,
I’ve chased the shouting wind along, and flung
My eager craft through footless halls of air....

Up, up the long, delirious, burning blue
I’ve topped the wind-swept heights with easy grace.
Where never lark, or even eagle flew —
And, while with silent, lifting mind I've trod
The high untrespassed sanctity of space,
- Put out my hand, and touched the face of God.

Men like Armstrong are few and far between today.

I know, unfortunately a lot of iconic people like Amstrong are claimed to be converted to islam by muslims theirselves. Even a person I admire (a wrestler named Undertaker) has been target by muslims as 'converted to islam', even if he's clearly against islam.

Unfortunately my brother is a conspirtionist and he hates america so much that everyday he tell me something bad to force me to become an anti-american. He is also anti-islam, but yet he still listen to conspiracy theories, most of them made by muslims.

And so those http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Fake_Conversions

Now i'm going OT, but i'm tired to hear my compatriots saying that italian culture fits more with arabian(A.K.A. islamic) culture than with american culture. I can't see where we are like arabs.

SURELY ARMSTRONG WAS LYING

Surely he heard the Moslem call to prayer while on the Moon. Allah is the Lord of the Moon; a planetary deity who rules that dead planet.

I am awaiting the momentous news that the Mars Rover has encountered evidence of Allah or perhaps Muhammad on Mars. Will we soon be seeing photographs, from say Iran, showing Allah's 'Prophet and Messenger' leading his men across the Martian desert on the way to a Martian Khaybar to attack the apes and pigs.

Rest in peace Neil. Munkar and Nakir, like Allah, are just myths

If Muslims ever manage to take over the US and other Western countries and install a Caliphate to include London, Washington an Rome, how quickly would it take for the history lessons change to saying that it was a FACT that Neil Armstrong heard the Adhan while on the moon, and subsequently became a Muslim? And for the future Karen Armstrongs to argue: "Look how much Muslims have done for science and technology. Look at Neil Armstrong!"

Far-fetched? Maybe... but moreso than the idea of Afghanistan, one of the centres of Buddhism, turning into one of the most extreme Islamic states with no traces of Buddhism would have seemed circa 630 AD?

We are dealing not only with an ideology wanting power. We are dealing with an ideology wanting to claim any important achievement they can as their own.

We are dealing with thieves and liars.

GreenInfidel

Just look @ all their claims about having come out w/ the number system, having discovered 'zero', having pioneered Algebra, blah blah blah

Re conspiracy theories, and obstinate Mohammedan closed-mindedness: Ayaan Hirsi Ali encountered this in her own mother.

From chapter 4 of 'Infidel', which describes the beginning of her life in Kenya (aged 11) after having spent her early childhood in Somalia, Saudi Arabia, and Ethiopia.

She was enrolled - against her mother and grandmother's wishes - in Juja Road Primary School; she picked up English, and then discovered the books in the school library.

"One time, I informed my mother that people had walked on the moon. {It seems that the primary school she attended in Saudi Arabia had neglected to mention this sort of thing - dda}. Ma said it was nonsense: "The Kiristaan are so fanciful they could take an airplane to a mountain and think it's the moon", she told me."

If a muslim ever comes to the moon it will probably not be volontarily.

Amazing the numbers of people who (allegedly) converted to Islam- conveniently posthumously( so this cannot be confirmed or denied by them personally)- my "favourite" is Blessed John Paul II!

Terry

What? That's nonsense. Muslims have more fantasy than I believed

Definingthenarrative wrote;

Cannot think of Neil Armstrong without hearing this poem by J G Magee...
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I agree–"High Flight' has long been a favorite poem of mine–it is a poem that beautifully encapsulates so many of the virtues of the West. Thank you for posting the piece.

It is much loved by aviators and astronauts, as well.

Astronaut Michael Collins brought an index card with the poem typed on it on his Gemini 10 flight.

More here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Gillespie_Magee,_Jr.#Modern_use_of_the_poem

Oh, and I forgot to mention–Magee wrote that amazing poem when he was *just nineteen years old*—right before his tragic early death in an RAF training accident in 1941.

He had signed up to fight Fascism—a threat that had much in common with what we are facing from Jihad.

Its really sick to hear those things.. that armstrong converted to islam.. I'm from a muslim nation.. And i'm one, still, i think .. But i's raised with liberal views and i developed a keen interest in science.. In south asian muslim countries they're not fanatic.. Our previous generation, at least the educated ones didn't have their heads messed up.. But the internet is really spreading mass propaganda.. The youth's are believing in bs, although they're a huge minority but fast growing.. I feel more and more out of place here and planning on a move to us to pursue science.. Just my opinion.. I'm slowly getting a feeling that all these religions are made up and not real..

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