San Francisco Examiner reluctantly comes out for free speech, smears pro-Israel bus ad

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It is good, and rather surprising in today's climate, to see the San Francisco Examiner come out for Pamela Geller's free speech rights and say that her pro-Israel ads should be allowed to run. However, the Examiner predictably enough retails Islamic supremacist talking points in branding the ad "offensive," "bigoted," "hateful" and even "repulsive."

The Examiner doesn't bother to explain why it thinks the ad is all those terrible things, but objections to the ad have revolved around two related claims: that it calls everyone who sides with the "Palestinians" against Israel, or every Muslim or every Arab, a "savage," and that the people who are opposed to Israel are not savages. The ad doesn't actually refer to all supporters of the Palestinian jihad, or all Muslims or all Arabs, but that claim has nevertheless been widely repeated in the mainstream media. It actually refers to the Palestinian jihadis who glory in the murders of innocent civilians.

Take, for example, Ahlam Tamimi, who helped murder 16 Israelis in a pizzeria. She recently appeared on al-Aqsa TV and recounted the joy of the "Palestinians" as radio reports on the jihad attack increased the number of dead: "Two minutes later, they said on the radio that the number had increased to five. I wanted to hide my smile, but I just couldn't. Allah be praised, it was great. As the number of dead kept increasing, the passengers were applauding."

Is it savage to take pleasure in the mass murder of innocent civilians? Yes, it is. And it is not actually "hateful," or "bigoted," or "offensive" or "repulsive" to say so. Glorying in the murders of innocent human beings is hateful, offensive, and repulsive, and stems in this case from Islamic bigotry and Jew-hatred. But the Examiner wouldn't dream of upsetting liberal pieties by noting that.

The San Francisco Examiner is covering itself with shame in its moral equivocation on this point, and its effectively running interference for these murderers and their apologists. At very least, as supposedly evenhanded journalists, the Examiner's editorialists could have noted that some consider the ads hateful, and presented our side of the story. But that would have interfered with their propaganda line.

Covering themselves with shame also are those on the Right who are too cowardly, pusillanimous, cowed by the Left, and/or self-serving to speak up in defense of Pamela Geller, the freedom of speech, and these ads.

"Hateful bus ads are free speech," an unsigned San Francisco Examiner editorial, August 22:

An offensive and bigoted advertising campaign about the Israeli-Palestinian conflict is now running on Muni buses. Yet despite the repulsive nature of these advertisements, they must be allowed to run to protect the advertiser’s free-speech rights.

A few weeks ago, signs appeared on 10 Muni buses that said, “In any war between the civilized man and the savage, support the civilized man. Support Israel. Defeat jihad.” The American Freedom Defense Initiative, an organization so extreme it has been deemed a hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Center, purchased the ads. The group is led by Pamela Geller, a blogger and writer who defended the campaign by noting the message is protected by the First Amendment.

And as much as we disagree with the content of her ads, we agree with Geller that the message is protected speech and that the San Francisco Municipal Transportation Agency, which operates Muni, should not block this message or others like it in the future.

Banning the ads would be limiting speech based on the type of message that is conveyed, which clearly violates the First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution. In fact, in a fight over the same advertisements in New York City, Geller won a court battle after the messages were barred from the transit system there.

There are limits to free speech, but while these ads toe the line, they do not cross it. If the messages incited violent action against a group, that line would have been crossed. The transit agency also has guidelines for what type of advertisements can be prohibited, but these do not meet any of those criteria either. Geller seems to have crafted her hateful ads to garner attention without being censored.

First Amendment protections apply to every type of message, not just the ones we agree with. Letting Muni or any other governmental body censor speech based on the message would send the SFMTA down a perilous road that is best not taken — and one that the courts, rightly, would not let the agency take.

Muni has stated its opposition to the message of the advertisements without removing them. To start with, the transit agency donated the $3,800 of income from the ads to the San Francisco Human Rights Commission for educational activities. In addition, the agency started running ads next to Geller’s that say, “SFMTA policy prohibits discrimination based on national origin, religion, and other characteristics and condemns statements that describe any group as ‘savages.’”

The Bay Area was home to the free-speech movement, and it is important to remember how valuable those rights are. Everyone is right to condemn these hateful ads, but local calls for their removal are wrong. Better to use the ads as a starting point to discuss the Israeli-Palestinian conflict and the extremist views that people hold about the dispute. After all, merely banning a viewpoint from a Muni bus will not make it disappear entirely....

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The Bay Area was home to the free-speech movement, and it is important to remember how valuable those rights are.

Specifically it was on the UC campus Berkeley, conducted by vowed communists Angela Davis and Mario Savio...

The real home of free speech is the US Constitution...The liberal who wrote this stupid piece forgot to mention that...

It would be interesting to make San Francisco City & County for a week a Shariah Zone, like Aceh, or Riyadh, or Karachi, and see how their residents like it. Totally seal it off from San Mateo, Marin and Alameda counties, so that nobody can go in or come out. Close the Bay Bridge, the Golden Gate Bridge as well as the 101 and 680 and El Camino entrances to the City, before doing this experiment. SFO will only service the rest of the Bay Area, not the City itself.

Once the above is done, declare it a pure Shariah zone. Send CAIR and all Muslim activists from Dearbornistan and elsewhere to run it. If needed, invite Fiqh experts from our new Arab Spring friends like Egypt & Libya, maybe throw in Iran for the Shia representation, and let it rip.

All their Gay activists will find it really revealing, as new laws are set up to hurl them to their deaths from tall buildings. Women can give up dressing in dress suits, and go head to toe in jilbabs. Blacks can be @ the receiving end of it as well, since they are Abid. All this just for starters.

Oh, they can also have a police for the promotion of virtue and prevention of vice, and crack down on any brothels in the City. In the process, they can prepare to whip fornicators, arrest women who drive, yada yada yada.

At the end of the week, end that experiment, and then ask everybody what they think of Muslims.

If possible, repeat this experiment in Berkeley, Santa Cruz, Manhattan, Dearborn, Vermont and other places.

"the transit agency donated the $3,800 of income from the ads to the San Francisco Human Rights Commission for educational activities"....

Is the San Fran Yuman Rites commission run by Muhammad & Abdullah?

You don't have to shut down the whole city for the sharia lesson in reality...Just shut down Market St from the Castro district to the waterfront...If you have ever been to Market Street, especially lately, you will know what I mean...not all the animals are in the zoo...

Ah.. back to those old troublesome values!!

Freedom of speech, equality under the law - have almost become taboo in the face of 'respect' for Islamic values [which of course we don't want to offend!].

Inciting violence - they must only read Muslim 'approved' articles - not to have noticed all the calls for hate death and the annihilation of others - Jews, Christians and Hindus coming from the Islamic world - out of the mouths of leading clerics!

The intent is to suggest - Geller carefully crafted her message - not to sound like these guys!!

Interesting - the lecture on open debate - as they lock themselves in and prevent other view points from being expressed. Hence the popularity of the blogs.

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It is tragic though that a religion that teaches its followers to look down on everyone else - through their actions are being labeled the same. As with all supremacist ideologies - in the effort to maintain that supremacy - requires the undermining of one's own humanity. It is the lesson of WWII.

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And some on the Left seem to have aligned themselves with Islam's supremacist values - as if that is going somewhere!

(Often attributed to Winston Churchill) “During the course of their lives many people stumble across the truth, many falling upon this discovery flat on the face. Most pick themselves up, dust off their clothing, and go about life as if nothing ever happened. It occurs rarely, but some actually take notice of what just happened.”

If the truth about Muslim behavior towards non-Muslims (even setting aside the all-too-common occurrence of Muslim-on-Muslim violence) is often seen as "offensive," "bigoted," "hateful," "repulsive," then which party should be on the receiving end of criticism: the party actually committing anti-social acts, including mutilation and murder, basing their actions on a 1400 year old ideology, or the party telling the world at large that there are others actually committing anti-social acts based on that ideology.

I know that the Examiner directed those descriptors towards Geller, but those descriptors are quite accurate in relating what Muslims do to others when given the opportunity, causing actual harm and death. Muslims take particular aim at Jews precisely because Islam’s holy texts have an intense hatred towards the Jews. None of this is just drawn out of the air. Islam’s source texts lay it all out, including Mohammed’s own behavior towards the Jews. As many JW readers know, Mohammed is considered the Perfect Man (Al-Insan al-Kamil); thus, Muslims throughout history, up to this very day, believe that imitating Mohammed’s actions is itself an act of Islamic worship.

http://www.israinternational.com/the-perfect-man.html
(Islamic Studies and Research Association, “However, there are human beings, such as the Prophet Muhammad, and other prophets and saints, who have achieved the Perfect State and reflect the divine qualities. By observing and emulating the example of such individuals, particularly the prophet, we can work on correcting our own flaws and embodying the divine characteristics that we innately possess.”)

It is decidedly in our best interests that we observe what Muslims have done to non-Muslims throughout history, and that we become keenly aware of Muslims’ stated intentions towards us. Doing so is found in the file cabinet under Self-Preservation.

Good idea, Infidel.

73% of Palestinians agree with genocidal hadith about Muslims killing Jews hiding behind trees

"Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: The last hour would not come unless the Muslims will fight against the Jews and the Muslims would kill them until the Jews would hide themselves behind a stone or a tree and a stone or a tree would say: Muslim, or the servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me; come and kill him; but the tree Gharqad would not say, for it is the tree of the Jews." -- Sahih Muslim 6985
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2011/08/73-of-palestinians-agree-with-genocidal-hadith-about-muslims-killing-jews-hiding-behind-trees.html

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2008/08/usc-msa-removes-does-not-repudiate-genocidal-hadith.html

So here's the mistake, in my personal, subjective opinion.

To frame the argument is Israeli/Palestinian terms.

In San Francisco I would target it much more specifically and aim at two of Islams biggest Achilles Heels.

1. Attacks on women under Islam.

2. Attacks on gays under Islam.

Keeping hammering away on that. The Left can't defend that.
They can't call it hate or bigotry either.

Though Pamela is a fine woman I get the impression that her main focus is to promote and support Israel. While that may be an admirable objective it's not always exactly the same as opposing Islam and this is, I think (once again, in my personal opinion) a good example of this.

From the San Francisco Examiner: " the Israeli-Palestinian conflict".

Translation: "the Jihad Against the Jews".

Which is a subset and diagram in little of the Global Jihad Against Everybody On Earth Who Isn't A Muslim.

Many if not all of the tactics displayed by the Mohammedan Ummah in their Jihad against the world's only Jewish state (and also against all Jews anywhere, as evidenced by the murders of, inter alia, Sebastien Selam whose Moroccan Mohammedan murderer proclaimed 'I have killed my Jew; now I shall go to Paradise', Ilan Halimi; Miriam Monsonego, Gavriel and Rivkah Holzberger...) are also deployed by Mohammedans in and around India , southern Russia, the Balkans, Southern Thailand and the Southern Philippines. Most notably the business of 'peace processing' (one hudna after another, with the Mohammedans reserving the right to breach the supposed 'agreement' the moment they feel they can get away with so doing), and the splitting of the Mohammedan entity involved into a 'moderate' and a 'splinter group' - 'Slow Jihadists' vs 'Fast Jihadists' as Hugh Fitzgerald used to say, so they can use 'goodcop/ badcop' to confuse the Infidel negotiators and military and keep them on the back foot. The 'goodcop' benefits from the intimidation and violence that the 'badcop' enacts, yet maintains 'plausible deniability'

Robert and Pamela:

Kudos to you for what you are doing! I salute your courage and your valiant Resistance!As I said before:
All the power to you, folks! And I love the name of your international movement: SION! For "Sion" means "Zion" in a number of languages. That's the idea: the Resistance can defeat jihad only if it unites under the glorious Blue Star. One does not need to be a Jew to be a Zionist. Zionism is not the Jewish religion, it is a political ideology. One can be a Melkite Catholic like you, Robert, or a Christian of any other denomination, or a Buddhist, or a Hindu, or a Sikh, or a Confucian, or a Taoist, or an atheist, and can still be a Zionist. Zionism should unite us all. There's no other way.

Robert and Pamela:

May I make a suggestion? Our cause can get a great boost through ... cinematography! In my Old Country, the Soviet Union, I was an anti-Communist, and haven't warmed-up to Communism now. Yet, I perfectly understand the words of the Bolshevik leader Lenin: "Of all arts, the most important for us is cinema". Indeed, the Soviet cinema from the start had powerful influence incide the Soviet Union and beyond. The best known of the early Soviet movies, "Battleship Potyomkin", is a cinema classic here in the West to this day. I can name at least 10 other masterpieces unknown in the West, but even better still.
Even now, with the DVD's, the myriads of TV channels, Netflix, cyberspace movies, etc., the movie theater still hasn't lost its magic. People take their seats in that multiplex in eager anticipation, and psychologically open-up, ready to be excited, ready to be influenced. And whenever I go to see a movie, I get all psyched, and then ... nothing but garbage comes at me from the silver screen. All that Hollywood production is designed with 2 things in mind: to grab tons of money, and to avoid offending the Muslims. The Russians and the Serbs are another story: they are portrayed as bad guys all the time, because it is safe for the Hollywood cowards. One of many examples: the "Sum of All Fears" movie, based on Clancey's book. In the book, the nuclear terrorists are Palestinians, but after CAIR protestsed, the cowards "re-did" the movie, replacing the Palestinians with ... right-wing Europeans and rogue Russians!
In this industry of universal cowardice, I think, there is a niche for us. Let us creat a totally new, courageous, Zionist Hollywood that will advance our cause by simply telling the truth! You, SION folks, might talk about this with MEMRI, they are the best. Financing must be obtained, too. Sheldon Adelson comes to mind. He is a good man and a devout supporter of Israel, who is making valiant efforts to help the election campaigns of Romney and other Republicans. Something tells me he will be very happy to fund Zionist cinema, just as the Universal Pictures tycoon Arthur Krim funded the Zionist classic movie "Exodus" 50 years ago. That movie was the greatest Zionist propaganda triumph of all times! Like I say, the power of cinema! Let us revive this courageous tradition and bring it to a whole new level! Let us present the history of Zionism in epic after glorious epic, in chronological order: "Yossef Trumpeldor", followed by "The Mandate", "Stern", "Irgun", "Menachem Begin", "Struma", "Exodus" (a new and even better one!), "The Birth of Israel", "1956", "Ariel Sharon", "1967", "Munich 1972", "Entebbe", and so on.
Full truth! On everything! No politeness to the English! No politeness to our own USA! The disgrace of the relentless treason by the Western democracies toward the Jewish people, the Zionists and Israel must be presented exactly as it happened! "The Mandate" especially should be poignant and educational, chronicling the escalating treason by the English toward the Jews, and the horrible tragedies that were caused by that evil treason driven by that evil, cowardly God-accursed pathology: to please, please and appease the Muslims world over. This will put the mirror to the faces of not only the English, but also the Norwegians, the Swedes, the Americans and other Western nations who are doing evil RIGHT NOW, for the same God-accursed reason: to please, please and appease the Muslims world over. Relentlessly and cowardly betraying Israel. Crucifying Serbia. Betraying their own countries by deliberatelly infesting them with Muslims.
SHAME THE ESTABLISHMENT! EDUCATE THE REGULAR FOLKS! We can shake up the entire Western world and wake it up to the jihad threat and the cowardly treason by our elites. We can make a great difference in this world.
Best regards to you, folks!
Zionism, and only Zionism can save Western civilization.
Zionism, and only Zionism can save the world.

Ruslan Tokhchukov, EnragedSince1999.

A lot of this attitude will make perfect sense when you read "Ivory Towers On Sand: the failure of middle eastern studies in america" and "The Professors: the 101 most dangerous academics in America" and consider that these "journalists" are products of our wahibi infested,Jew Hating, genocide promoting ultra-liberal universities.

SIOA could benefit from some Madison avenue experise on the packaging of their message. The text of this signage is unnecessarily controversial. Islamic ideology and societies violate basic human and civil rights that are widely accepted in US and western society without controversy. The wording of this sign only detracts from the inherent violation of human and civil rights by Islamic ideology and societies. Moreover, it doesn't teach anything about Islam when it would be so easy to write about Islam's supremacist and repressive theocracies, homophobia, misogyny and lack of equality for all under the law.

I've lived in the SF Bay area since I came to America in 1956. For me and my family this is the best place in the world to live. But...the general mentality is nuts. Some call it the land of 'fruits 'n nuts' and I wholeheartedly agree.

As far as the Examiner is concerned...It's damn big of them to recognize and reluctantly support a Constitutional Right!Many of the words in their description can be applied to themselves.

In my everyday life and travels and business I go about reflecting my libertarian values of independence, freedom and personal responsibility. And...I find that even in this liberal haven, there are a lot of us who quietly share this point of view.

One Man's Opinion,
Luciano
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San Francisco Examiner reluctantly comes out for free speech, smears pro-Israel bus ad

It is good, and rather surprising in today's climate, to see the San Francisco Examiner come out for Pamela Geller's free speech rights and say that her pro-Israel ads should be allowed to run. However, the Examiner predictably enough retails Islamic supremacist talking points in branding the ad "offensive," "bigoted," "hateful" and even "repulsive."
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Actually, this stance does not surprise me at all. The San Francisco Examiner is considerably saner than the much larger San Francisco Chronicle. The Chronicle tends to be way off in left field.

The Examiner does cover actual Jihad terrorism sanely—that is, they condemn it and generally refuse to make excuses for it—but that even they would consider the SOIA ads "hateful" is discouraging, but pretty much what I'd expect.

More:

The Examiner doesn't bother to explain why it thinks the ad is all those terrible things...
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And why should they? Innuendo is these days considered legitimate journalism, shameful as that is.

More:

...objections to the ad have revolved around two related claims: that it calls everyone who sides with the "Palestinians" against Israel, or every Muslim or every Arab, a "savage," and that the people who are opposed to Israel are not savages. The ad doesn't actually refer to all supporters of the Palestinian jihad, or all Muslims or all Arabs, but that claim has nevertheless been widely repeated in the mainstream media. It actually refers to the Palestinian jihadis who glory in the murders of innocent civilians.

Take, for example, Ahlam Tamimi, who helped murder 16 Israelis in a pizzeria. She recently appeared on al-Aqsa TV and recounted the joy of the "Palestinians" as radio reports on the jihad attack increased the number of dead: "Two minutes later, they said on the radio that the number had increased to five. I wanted to hide my smile, but I just couldn't. Allah be praised, it was great. As the number of dead kept increasing, the passengers were applauding."
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Those sound like savages to me—and kudos to Pamela Geller for having the courage to say so.

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