Saudi Arabia: Calls for monitoring of mosques after mosque found manufacturing explosives

Mosques can be monitored in Saudi Arabia, but there cannot be any monitoring of mosques in the U.S. Oh, no. That would be "Islamophobic." Maybe the Obama Administration could bring in some Saudi mosque inspectors to assure them that everything is on the up-and-up in mosques stateside.

"Misuse of mosque for manufacturing explosives condemned," from Arab News, August 28 (thanks to Twostellas):

JEDDAH: A number of religious scholars and academics have stressed the need for the Ministry of Islamic Affairs, Endowment, Call and Guidance to beef up monitoring of places of worship. It followed the recent report of a Riyadh mosque serving as a facade for manufacturing explosives.

This is nothing that will especially catch anyone's notice. As we have documented over the years here at Jihad Watch, mosques all over the world have been used as bases for attacks against Infidels, to stockpile weapons, etc. In this case there will be nothing like the world outcry that would ensue if a church were found manufacturing explosives. That would be a true man-bites-dog story.

The Interior Ministry said in a statement on Sunday that it discovered explosive substances and devices at a lean-to of a quiet mosque in Riyadh. Mosques normally use attached rooms to accommodate workers or for library service.

The scholars also demanded deterrent punishments to those who exploit the spiritual atmosphere in mosques to promote chaos in the country, Al-Madinah daily reported on Monday.

“Those who seek to destabilize the country and fight against security forces come under the category of ‘those who rebel against Allah and His Messenger’ and a country’s legitimate government and hence should be punished severely,” said Sheikh Abdullah Al-Manie, who is a member of the Council of Senior Religious Scholars and adviser at the Royal Court.

"Indeed, the penalty for those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger and strive upon earth [to cause] corruption is none but that they be killed or crucified or that their hands and feet be cut off from opposite sides or that they be exiled from the land. That is for them a disgrace in this world; and for them in the Hereafter is a great punishment..." -- Qur'an 5:33

The scholar also congratulated the Interior Ministry for its successful preemptive strike against the Riyadh cell and protecting the people from such heinous deeds.

The Islamic Affairs Ministry should ensure that imams and muezzins inspect the mosque premises regularly and thoroughly, so that the facilities are not misused for subversive activities. The sacred houses of worship should not be converted into dens of destructive acts,” he said.

Member of the Fiqh Academy Muhammad Al-Nojaimi stressed the duty of the worshipers and residents in nearby buildings apart from imams and muezzins to see that mosques are not exploited for subversive activities. “Officials concerned should also investigate why some expatriates are unofficially undertaking duties at mosques. They should also launch campaigns and raids at such mosques,” he said....

Meanwhile, a former Saudi fighter in Afghanistan, Sheikh Siraj Al-Zahrani, warned against the dangers of Saudi youths being carried away by the temptation to be martyrs in Syria. Siraj said he joined the Afghan Taleban fighters on the assumption that they were fighting on the straight religious path, but experience made him disillusioned and prompted him to return home. “No youth should go to Syria or other war fronts without the permission from their guardians. A family should be cautious about its sons being lured to war zones for jihad,” the sheikh said.

Cautious indeed!

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Not quite like monks.

From the article:

...scholars [from the "Council of Senior Religious Scholars and adviser at the Royal Court", that is] also demanded deterrent punishments to those who exploit the spiritual atmosphere in mosques to promote chaos in the country...

Camel bumper sticker: "One Muslim's fitna & fasad is another Muslim's holy jihad."

The perennial problem with Islam is that this distinction has never been articulated with a rational political science, but instead has remained shot through from top to bottom with the pneumopathology of fanatical paranoia and misoxeny, fomenting unrelenting discord and dissension from the beginning of this geopolitical monstrosity called Islam to the present. And that's when its mental patients are not storming outside the walls of their self-imposed insane asylum attacking, massacring, plundering, raping and oppressing their non-Muslim "enemies" all around them.

"Mosques can be monitored in Saudi Arabia, but there cannot be any monitoring of mosques in the U.S."

Of course. All easily explained: Saudi Arabia is a despotical, tyrannical state, so naturally all good freedom-loving, liberal, Arab Spring, democratic, tolerant Moslems -- whom, we are constantly told by our leaders and media, are the vast majority of Moslems -- want its overthrow. So they plot and make bombs in mosques. But the U.S. is already democratic, freedom-loving, tolerant, etc, etc, so Moslems here don't need to plot and make bombs in mosques. Right?

I still contend, and even more so now that mosques in the Western World are the equivalent to our aircraft carriers.

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D: My usaul response to islamists like has been to F...off!!! but obviously you are speechless here!!!!!
M

It just so utterly makes no sense, that mosques can be searched in Saudi Arabia but not in the United States - until one asks: who benefits? In Saudi Arabia, the very traditionally Muslim Saudi state benefits. In the United States, the democratic American government does NOT benefit. Instead, once again, Islamism benefits(the name keeps shifting - Political Islam, whatever). Aha! Now it makes utterly good sense - to Islamism - what is happening.

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Saudi Arabia: Calls for monitoring of mosques after mosque found manufacturing explosives

Mosques can be monitored in Saudi Arabia, but there cannot be any monitoring of mosques in the U.S. Oh, no. That would be "Islamophobic."
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That says it all...

More:

The scholars also demanded deterrent punishments to those who exploit the spiritual atmosphere in mosques to promote chaos in the country, Al-Madinah daily reported on Monday.
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"Spiritual atmosphere"—why is it only in Islam that a "spiritual atmosphere" leads to *manufacturing explosives*?

More:

“Those who seek to destabilize the country and fight against security forces come under the category of ‘those who rebel against Allah and His Messenger’ and a country’s legitimate government and hence should be punished severely,” said Sheikh Abdullah Al-Manie, who is a member of the Council of Senior Religious Scholars and adviser at the Royal Court.

"Indeed, the penalty for those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger and strive upon earth [to cause] corruption is none but that they be killed or crucified or that their hands and feet be cut off from opposite sides or that they be exiled from the land. That is for them a disgrace in this world; and for them in the Hereafter is a great punishment..." -- Qur'an 5:33
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Invoking Islam on both sides.

As LemonLime notes, what is considered "Fitnah" by the Saudi authorities is considered legitimate Jihad against an "insufficiently Islamic" regime by the pious explosives manufacturers...

More:

“The Islamic Affairs Ministry should ensure that imams and muezzins inspect the mosque premises regularly and thoroughly, so that the facilities are not misused for subversive activities. The sacred houses of worship should not be converted into dens of destructive acts,” he said.
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And what about the times where the Imam and Muezzin are down with the Jihad? As they probably were in the case above...

More:

Meanwhile, a former Saudi fighter in Afghanistan, Sheikh Siraj Al-Zahrani, warned against the dangers of Saudi youths being carried away by the temptation to be martyrs in Syria. Siraj said he joined the Afghan Taleban fighters on the assumption that they were fighting on the straight religious path, but experience made him disillusioned and prompted him to return home. “No youth should go to Syria or other war fronts without the permission from their guardians. A family should be cautious about its sons being lured to war zones for jihad,” the sheikh said.
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As if receiving permission from their guardians would take care of this problem. In any case, this is one area where Islamic opinion is divided—some hold that Jihadists must receive permission from parents—or husband, in the case of wives—before setting off to wage Jihad. Some hold that murdering Infidels is so important that no permission is necessary.

A casual reader might wonder why this passage is even in this story—but they are closely linked. Shari'ah states such as Saudi Arabia have always tried to channel the Islamic urge for violent Jihad into murdering Infidels abroad—rather than fighting the regime at home.

Muslim "D" wrote:

Whatever
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More brilliant analysis from the devout Mohammedan front. sarc/off

Robert Spencer, if you're reading this can I ask you a long question:

"Do you ever feel that you're wasting your time? Those who believe that Islam is sweet and lovely continue to believe so and think that you are a racist lunatic and probably never look at this site.
To those of us who do listen to what you have to say, well you're preaching to the converted anyway!
I don't know how you do it. I get frustrated just by posting comments on your website, whereas you have to write articles every day. Keep up the good work by all means, but is there anybody who needs to learn something that is actually listening?"

Well, well, well! Mosques involved in Jihad. Who'd a thunk it?

Hey 'D', can you tell us of any occasion that a Christian church was found to be manufacturing explosives to prosecute a Christian world wide war to advance the cause of Christianity and impose the 10 Commandments on the world?

You're a clown!

The scholars also demanded deterrent punishments to those who exploit the spiritual atmosphere in mosques to promote chaos in the country

Uh oh, must be the ramadan fireworks and gunshots scaring people. Otherwise I can think of no explanation at all.

I don't think Spencer, Geller, and all our other brave and knowledgable students of mohammedism are wasting their time. I see a growing number of commentators on various message boards expressing concern and researched opinions. Itproves that the number of people getting it is increasing.

The freedom of speech fans are rising up refuse to eat what the mohammedans are dishing out.

The truth cannot be squashed, no matter what men may do.

oops, rising up and refusing to eat.

"...a Riyadh mosque serving as a facade for manufacturing explosives."

And islam is a facade for the "religion of peace", but of course it is NOT a peaceful religion; instead it is a demonic inspired cult that causes delusion, death, destruction and chaos to the world - and finally damnation to those that follow this evil lie and reject the truth of Jesus Christ.

Those slimy Islamaphobes. How dare they spy on peace loving Muslims!

OT

Pulled off Drudge:

http://detroit.cbslocal.com/2012/08/28/msu-student-knocked-unconscious-mouth-stapled-shut-in-alleged-hate-crime/

Not going to jump the gun here, BUT REMEMBER, there are lots of muslims in Michigan, and LOTS of them are assembling the cars that we drive, (scary thought, isn't it?).

I am just dying to find out if these rat bastards are muslim.

Think MSM will let us know?

I am SURE if these guys turn out to be neo-nazis the MSM will let us know very quickly.

I have followed a lot of these kind of stories since 911, and trust me, they almost never follow up on the story if these assholes turn out to be your normal, next door, garden variety muslims.

But muslims in the US are totally different than the muslims in other countries. They are moderates and they love the USA. The are against ANY type of terrorism against anybody. They are always against terrorist organizations and they always voice their loyalty to AMERICA and condemn "ISLAMISTS" who are extremists.Extremists do not reflect the opinion of the majority of muslims who belong to the RELIGION OF PEACE. Extremist are the ones who hijack the RELIGION OF PEACE.

In summary, there is no need for us to do anything like investigating the activities of mosques or CAIR until they start throwing acid to our childrens' faces and beheading us infidels here in USA, maybe in Fort Hood or Dearborn or Ft Lauderdale. Are they already doing that? I wonder.

Yes Sam, as we all know, the moment Muslims come to America, they magically transform into moderates (except when they don't, Fort-Hood-wise). It must be something about the American soil or atmosphere, perhaps.

I wonder what would be found if just one non-Muslim country which has a perceptible Mohammedan colony out of which has emerged at least one plotted, attempted or achieved Jihad plot, and that has at least three mosques and/ or 'islamic cultural centres' and/ or 'islamic schools' on its soil, were to try the following experiment: simultaneous surprise raids on all of said mosques, 'islamic centres' and 'islamic schools', searching same from attic to basement, and in every part of the grounds and any associated premises such as imams' houses, with trained police and/ or soldiers bearing in mind the possibility of such features as tunnels, hidden safes and hidden rooms, false floors/ wall and ceilings? Such raids would of course make use of dogs: dogs trained in the detection of cadavers, explosives and drugs.

I wonders, yes I wonders, just what might be found.

Gravenimage

you remarked - "Spiritual atmosphere"—why is it only in Islam that a "spiritual atmosphere" leads to *manufacturing explosives*?"

Yep.

I recall a story here, some years ago, about a bloke in Britain who converted to Islam and almost immediately got into plotting Jihad.

When his digs were raided they found in his kitchen a biscuit-tin full of home-made explosives (this was, I think, *before* the publication of that Al Qaeda 'Inspire' magazine with its famous article about 'how to make a bomb in the kitchen of your mom'), and in his wardrobe there was an explosive vest.

Mosques as arsenals:
When the Ottoman Turks conquered Athens, they converted the Parthenon, then used as a church, into a mosque. They stored gunpowder in it. The gunpowder exploded when hit by Venetian mortar fire in the 17th century.

@Softly Bob. The Greeks didn't give up in despair under over three hundred years of Islamic occupation and oppression. That's longer than the USA has been in existence.

I am just a simple history major.

But I know enough history to know the following:

1)islam is not just a religion, with a few "way-out-folk" who like to impose that "not so nice type of jihad" on their neighbors.

2)islam is an anti-western ideology masquerading as a religion.

3) islam is a world mind cancer that makes "hosts" of nations, and starts to parasitize them. The tipping point occurs when the population of a given host nation is infested with a muslim population that is 10% or greater than the general population.

4) You can tell if your nation has a muslim infestaion problem, when you start having huge, expensive mosques being built right around your corner, and when there are lots and lots of muslims building your cars, and when a lot of stupid money grubbing lawyers start representing these muslims so shariah law can be implemented into the laws of your nation. [Old joke ... What's the difference between lawyer and a catfish? ... Answer: One is a bottom dwelling scum sucker; the other one's a fish.] So, then you have a brutal attack on the worlds greatest city, New York City, and you have these muslim slimes getting warned not to send their kids into NYC that day because of "YOU KNOW WHAT". On the same day the Pentagon is attacked, and another plane intended for where? (mayhaps the White House?) is scuttled by the oh so brave passengers. These attacks are all the work of muslims.

and then ...

SAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!

We have a muslim infestation problem!

The reason islam is again making such a big mess is because people have forgotten, or never bothered to learn in the first place, ... history.

This awful islam was turned back hundreds of years ago at the gates of vienna, when Europe was oh so much wiser.

Go here:

http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/

Lets pray to our Judaeo Christian God to wake up the fools among us, and guide us, the United States of America, to never, ever elect a pos muslim POTUS again.

Amen.

“Those who seek to destabilize the country and fight against security forces come under the category of ‘those who rebel against Allah and His Messenger’ and a country’s legitimate government and hence should be punished severely,”

Uh oh...That is Quran 5:33 he's talking about...Warring with Allah and spreading mischief in the land...The Quran says, you will know the enemies of Allah because they hop around on one foot, and clap with one hand...Allah thinks of everything, ain't he swell?

.......from my vantage point here in Deepest Central Maryland, there's a very nearby province called Northern Virginia-istan just across the Potomac River and west of that part of The Potomac River bank home of George Washington...Mount Vernon. It is now a culturally separate area where English is a second language.

The bumper stickers on my car begin to vibrate and hum as I cross the bridge on the river Potomac on expeditions to childhood haunts. One says, "Infidel" in English, and just to make the point, Arabic as well. The other says, "Anti-C.A.I.R." which is the Hamas associated lobbying group.

There are Saudi financed madrassas and mosques in this area.

Political correctness reigns. Otherwise sensible Eyes will not see. Ears will not hear.

There are indeed Islamic cells within our land.

The very idea of these Saudis calling for any "monitoring of mosques" is rank taqiyya and hypocrisy.

They really do take us for fools.....maybe we are?

Hey, graduates from Al Ka-Boom University need a place to complete their course work.

Religion of peace my AS I was about to say this is typical for religion of peace you the cover of gods house to build bombs hide fugitive make ammo , etc. Now you all should know why it's so easy for obozo to lie. Great training for the military not for the clergy. "Wake up world"

Is that bastion of Islamic purity Saudia Arabia afraid of other pious Muslims?

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