The Ground Zero Mosque controversy according to the mainstream media -- featuring a fake Pamela Geller

The mainstream media resoundingly lost the debate about the Ground Zero Mosque in real life, and the thing still has not been built -- so they've taken to fiction to rig the results so that this time they win. This clip from HBO's The Newsroom features "Phyllis Greer," an opponent of the Ground Zero Mosque who is so closely patterned after Pamela Geller (without the charisma) that her opening words in this clip are exact quotes from Geller -- about how it is an Islamic pattern to build triumphal mosques "on the cherished sites of conquered lands."

Jeff Daniels, playing a reporter, shreds "Phyllis Greer" in this clip in a way that no reporter ever bested Geller, mainly by pointing up instances of "Christian terrorism" -- ignoring, of course, that no sect of Christianity teaches that believers should make war against unbelievers, while every sect (and school of jurisprudence) of Islam does teach this. And there is nothing here, of course, about how the thing really was a mosque, not just a "Community Center," since it would contain a "worship space" for Muslims only, and that it was at Ground Zero, since it was to be built on the site of a building that was severely damaged in the 9/11 attacks.

He also dismisses her point about the Cordoba mosque by saying that the Muslims conquered Spain in the eighth century -- he clearly has no idea that the Islamic law by which they conquered Spain has not changed since then.

To top it all off, Daniels -- not "Phyllis Greer" -- also gets a death threat. In real life, of course, Pamela Geller and I were inundated with death threats (although of course the only one the mainstream media ever reported on was one that Daisy Khan claimed to have received).

This is, in short, a clumsy propaganda piece, designed to brainwash the 70% of Americans who opposed the Ground Zero Mosque into supporting it.

(Video thanks to Clark Kent.)

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If that was a real life scenario and i was sitting in that chair I would've asked Daniels if all those "Christian terrorists were doing those things because of or in spite of the teachings of Christ and the apostles? And then I would've started quoting quran passage after quran passage and hadiths to prove that Islamic terrorism is BECAUSE of the teachings of Mo/Allah.

"Christian terrorism" is surely an oxymoron.

"Christians"--inasmuch as they are Christian--don't do death threats.

Well, that's a movie I won't be watching. The MSM and leftist Hollywood are not only complicit in contributing to the demise of freedoms in the US, Canada, and the rest of the free world, stupidly thinking they are "righteous," but will inevitably be spewing their misguided ideological claptrap while the noose tightens around their necks or their heads are separated from their bodies by those they purport to defend. Idiots!

Ima

Jeff Daniels? I'm sorry to say he has always been one of my favorite actors because I wrongly believed, at one time, that he somehow possessed some of the same character traits that he so admirably played in the personage of Col. Joshua Chamberlain in the epic Civil War drama "Gettysburg" in a speech to group of Maine deserters:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kdOKJXfTU4

These are extremely proud moments in America's history that should never ever be forgotten and, especially now as we are now involved in a mortal, civilazational battle against the evils of Islam and it's world caliphate..

Now, in retrospect: how wrong I was to give this miserable man credit because it is apparent now that he is simply whoring his acting ability to any sponsor who will support his trade. A very naive and shallow man he turned out to be (and a leftist to boot).

This show is nothing more than a liberal hollywood attempt at rehashing old news stories, only this time using all of the talking points they forgot to use, or were unable to use due to public opinion, the first time around. The writer of this show conveniently forgets to script real conservative commentators with real conservative talking points, making it look like the liberals were really correct the whole time and conservatives nothing but mouth-breathing knuckle draggers....

It reminds me of George Costanza flying from New York to Ohio to use his "Jerk Store" zinger on a former co-worker who insulted him in a staff meeting.

Sue. The. Dhimmi. Bastards.

And Joshua Lawrence Chamberlain is turning in his grave.

The real Media is crap. The fictional Media is fictional crap.
descendantofacrusader: "whoring his acting ability to any sponsor" ..the sad condition of most of Hollywood it seems. But I would imagine Daniels probably believes what he's saying. It's easy to write a script representing yourself as the good guy. The Left is doing it all the time. Actually seeking the truth requires a bit of work to get at the facts. At the end of the clip Daniels has his say and Greer is rather silent. In reality Pamela would have had much to say in reply, as any of us here on JW would. It's a nasty trick which gives the impression Daniels/Newsman is the reasonable person and Greer is the loon. Atheists like Dawkins do the same thing. They set up straw men and seem to be clever. But they won't debate people like William Lane Craig who would tear Dawkins' obtuseness to shreds.

I had the same disappointment with Tom Hanks. After Saving Private Ryan, ..The Da Vinci Code!

We should all to more than simply not watch this movie.
How about cancelling HBO, not watching anything put out in the future by the people associated with this garbage. And writing letters to them to let them know this is wrong.

Big Rob has it right. This show is just a lame fictitious rehash/rewrite of old news. 'Not worth the time spent watching it.

To top it all off, Daniels -- not "Phyllis Greer" -- also gets a death threat. In real life, of course, Pamela Geller and I were inundated with death threats (although of course the only one the mainstream media ever reported on was one that Daisy Khan claimed to have received).
....................................

This "threat" appears to be an ongoing story line.

"Will McAvoy"—the main character and newscaster, roughly modeled on Keith Olbermann—supposedly gets a threat ranting about "sand n*ggers" and saying he has a "bullet with his name on it".

McAvoy then has to get twenty-four hour security.

Never mind that it is *Anti-Jihadists* who regularly receive death threats—as well as full-fledged plots on their lives—*not* Muslims or Muslim apologists.

This, along with the "Phyllis Greer", is gross calumny.

"The Newsroom" is very well executed, like all Sorkin dramas—but it is also bowdlerized and very skewed. All the "left-wing" characters are heroes, and all the "right-wing" characters are creeps or worse. McAvoy himself is supposed to be a "registered Republican", but this only comes up when he is criticizing the right—so it is not to be taken literally.

It is set roughly two years in the past.

They also had an episode about the "Arab Spring", where the issue of "Islamists" was brought up and dismissed literally in seconds.

After that, the entire phenomenon was presented as that of democracy lovin' bloggers.

The *did* present the killing of bin Laden as a positive thing—but implied that he was some sort of unique figure, rather than part of a whole phenomenon of violent Jihad.

This, despite the fact that their Indian blogger character—played by "Slumdog Millionaire's" Dev Patel—was supposed to have been caught in the 7/7 Tube bombings in London. This was treated almost like some sort of natural disaster, rather than a Jihad attack.

Worst of all was their treatment of the attempted Times Square Bombing. Their main focus was on the Muslim vendor who noticed the smoking SUV and mentioned it to another vendor, who called the authorities—the Muslim didn't want to waste his minutes and risk an overage—they actually mentioned this.

In any case, they acted as though the Muslim vendor's giving a "head's up"—of sorts; it's a good thing the Infidel vendor wasn't concerned about *his own* overages—that this somehow "canceled out" that fact that this was Jihad terror.

The only outrage exhibited by characters was over how some newscasts neglected to mention the Muslim t-shirt guy.

Well, of course—what else could one possibly be concerned about? sarc/off

I haven't seen any more of this show than the clip. From what i've seen it does truly reflect the Media. ie it mis-reports, under-reports, twists the facts, ridicules the truth-tellers and pretends to have the moral and intellectual high ground.

What's even funny is that Jeff Daniels was in the movie with Jim Carrey in "Dumb and Dumber". Not sure if he played Dumb or Dumber but here he's just Dumb.

This shows how desperate, ignorant and politically devious are much of MSM in their Islamic agenda.

It's a compliment to Pamela Geller really.

Again and again the oxymoron "Christian terrorism" is a favourite choice for the morons in the media and academia (the so called "intellectuals"), Christian must have been invading the unbelievers under the teaching of Jesus "love thy enemies"!! Why nobody is sensible to realize the very basic fact that Islam teaches the destruction of non-believers and Christianity teaches love not only to the neighbours but enemies as well. Nobody in films or tv series dare to offend Islam while Christianity is always shot down. We've to let them know we're not appreciating their views. I urge even the atheists and agnostics should take a stand with Christians on this...

Again and again the oxymoron "Christian terrorism" is a favourite choice for the morons in the media and academia (the so called "intellectuals"), Christians must have been invading the unbelievers under the teaching of Jesus "love thy enemies"!! Why nobody is sensible enough to realize the very basic fact that Islam teaches is the destruction of non-believers while Christianity teaches love not only the neighbours but the enemies as well. Nobody in films or tv series dare to offend Islam while Christianity is always shot down. We've to let them know we're not appreciating their views. I urge even the atheists and agnostics should take a stand with Christians on this...

I would like to see Robert Spencer fisk the hell out of this dialogue and David Wood make a video that tears the writers a new rear exit.

The writers of that show are inexcusably ignorant and irresponsible and negligent.

The abysmal depth of ignorance and idiocy out there -- particularly among those who deem themselves enlightened -- gives one a feeling of vertigo.

One would like to fisk the scene's dialog in detail, but one doubts the value of doing so, since the writers' stupidity must be nearly invincible to have produced those lines.

Back in 1998, Jeff Daniels articulated to Charlie Rose the odd phenomenon of Hollywood actors losing their box-office cachet and as a consequence no longer able to find work in A-list productions.

Ironically, Daniels succumbed to his own description, and now he's reduced to doing Gary Busey-like propaganda for our enemy.

(Of course, he could still be Clooney-hot and have his anti-American cake and eat it too; but he has to settle for being a D-list whore, instead of an A-list one.)

Reminds me of that lyric from the Steely Dan song 'Show Biz Kids' ,ergo:
''Show Biz kids
makin' movies of
themselves
You know they don't
give a f**k about
anybody else.''

Newsroom is nauseating. I couldn't take more than five minutes of Will McAvoy's self-serving, sanctimonious preachy claptrap.

I'm just very happy that TV is becoming a very very small part of my life. This "program" is a work of fiction. It is not reality and not truth. It is propaganda designed to influence the way people think about reality. And those who go to the TV for info and truth need to rethink their motives.

It is God and His Son Jesus to whom we must go for truth.

Do not judge Jesus by the sins of those wolves who have covered themselves in sheep's clothing.

Do not judge Allah by the sins of those wolves who have covered themselves in sheep's clothing.

Judge the wolves, and do it correctly or they may eat you and your families alive.

John 7:24 "Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment."

This isn't anything new under the sun. The entertainment industry loves to promote its politics by pretending to pit them against opposing views in dramatizations like this. The thing is, they never actually pit their views against what the opposition's views are built on, but against what they want their opposition's views to be built on: paper tigers and strawmen.

this a sign of fear. apparently Pamela Geller made a hugh impact on public opinion. and its not in favor of Obama. how else to confront Pamela Geller?

a debate? which may address issues, they don't want to answer for. they could not even answer, what is the capital of israel.

and probably be embarrassed to the point they will lose the support they do have.

so what left for them? the appeal to 'ad hominem tu quoque'.

I've long admired Jeff Daniels for the way he played the role of Joshua Chamberlain in "Gettysburg." No more. He wiped out that performance for me by his mendacious, cheap and unpatriotic stunt on HBO.

I can't wait for next weeks episode where a 'greasy islamophobe' Rupert Spender is caught on cctv insulting a gay disabled muslim war hero.

What is the term perportedly used in the film industry? "Never let the truth or facts get in the way of a good story"? There are many historical precedents of this in films, such as Private Hook in the classic Zulu being portrayed as a drunken malingerer and an insubordinate barrack room lawyer (for "dramatic" purposes), when in reality he was a strict tea-total Chapel man, who went on to be promoted to Regimental Sergeant Major. The smearing of the character of a ships officer on the Titanic. No doubt greatly appreciated by the families of these men. The list of historical inaccuracies in Braveheart are appalling.

And now in a crucial moment in freedom's history, when the fight against a savage and totalitarian ideology is under way, this exercise in Leftist and PC propaganda and misinformation is disgraceful and traitorous. The actors involved should hang their heads in shame. Yet another attempt, it seems, to disarm and deflect a free people from understanding what they are under threat from. If , as usually happens, the Left and Islam can't win the argument they go for smear and character assassination, when in fact they are only exposing their own political and moral bankruptcy.

They display their implacable goal to impose their triumphal mosque and ideology.

dhimmiwit wrote:

I can't wait for next weeks episode where a 'greasy islamophobe' Rupert Spender is caught on cctv insulting a gay disabled muslim war hero.
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Damn grim humor, dhimmiwit—but I have to admit, your "Rupert Spender" line cracked me up!

Odd, too, that "Phyllis Greer"—while it is never completely explicit—seems to be presented as some sort of big-haired Christian "Islamophobe". Of course, in Sorkin's world, Christians are almost always depicted as 'ign'ernt' yahoos...

David Severly,

Talk about "wolves in sheep's clothing": I find it sickening and revolting that you would equate the God of Abraham with the hateful demonic spirit "Allah". There is no comparison whatsoever except maybe goodness and justice against abject evil. I would wager that you are probably one of the useful tools who proudly display a "COEXIST" sticker on their bumper. You simply can't have it both ways. One of the greatest problems today, I believe, is not so much ascendant Islam but confused, relativistic people who have lost the ability to discriminate between good and evil - Jesus the Christ with Satan (Allah).

You said:

''Do not judge Allah by the sins of those wolves who have covered themselves in sheep's clothing.''

Your attempt to equate the mohammedan 'god' allah, with the God of Christianity is uninformed. Might I suggest you read the koran, and compare and contrast the attributes, and behaviour, of 'allah', and the Christian God.

If you have eyes to see, and ears to hear, I don't think you will find them to be equivalent in any way, shape or form.

Also, the Bible says ''by their fruits you shall know them.'' You might want to think about what the ''fruits'' of islam are, world-wide. Carry on reading at Jihad Watch, you will learn a great deal.

Hey, the fake Pamela Geller is very hot looking, just like the real Pamela Geller.

Hey, the fake and real Pamela Geller's are both very hot.

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