Turkey slams France for hate speech for including Armenian Genocide in textbooks

Pamela Geller says it: "Truth is the new hate speech." This is the same thing that happens on a daily basis to counter-jihadists who dare to point out how Islamic jihadists use the texts and teachings of Islam to justify violence, hatred and supremacism: they are smeared with the charge of promoting "hate," when in fact all they are doing is pointing out hate. Turkey's ongoing denial of the Armenian Genocide is consistent with an unbroken Islamic supremacist pattern: never, ever admit wrongdoing; never, ever take responsibility for actions that cause harm; never, ever acknowledge that jihad actions (such as the Armenian Genocide) cause immeasurable suffering to human beings; always, always instead blame the kuffar who have the temerity to point out the wrongdoing.

"Turkey slams France for promoting hate speech with genocide initiative," by Ali Aslan Kilic in Today's Zaman, August 27 (thanks to Lachlan):

The chairman of the Turkish Parliament's powerful education committee has accused the French government of planting the seeds of hate with its move to include the so-called “Armenian genocide” in history and geography books used in French secondary schools.

Nabi Avcı, chairman of the National Education, Culture, Youth and Sports Commission, told Today's Zaman in a phone interview on Monday that “the erosion of French culture and moving to the radical right in French politics that started with [former president Nicolas] Sarkozy continues to have a negative impact on the French education system.”

“I just hope that sensible French intellectuals will raise their voices against this kind of provocative move that will plant seeds of hate into minds of young people in France,” he added.

A Turkish daily reported on Sunday that the French Education Ministry has decided to include chapters about the so-called “Armenian genocide” in history and geography books used in French secondary schools -- a move that could once again upset relations with Turkey, which was hopeful about rebuilding strained ties with Paris following the election of the new president, François Hollande.

French students studying world history since 1910 will also read a chapter called “The Armenian Genocide.” Hollande said last month that he will stand by a campaign pledge to make it illegal to deny that the killing of Armenians by Ottoman Turks in 1915 was genocide.

Relations between Paris and Ankara had begun to thaw after a decision in February by France's constitutional court to strike down the genocide denial law as contrary to free speech.

Turkey had canceled all economic, political and military meetings with France in December after the French parliament voted in favor of the draft law. At a joint news conference early in July, French Foreign Minister Laurent Fabius said the law was unlikely to be resurrected and Turkish Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoğlu hailed the opening of a warmer phase in relations with France.

Armenia, backed by many historians, says that about 1.5 million Armenians were killed in what is now eastern Turkey during World War I in a deliberate policy of genocide ordered by the Ottoman government.

Turkey says there was heavy loss of life on both sides during the fighting, in which Armenian partisans supported invading Russian forces. The Ottoman Empire collapsed after the war. Successive Turkish governments and the vast majority of Turks feel the charge of genocide is an insult to their nation.

Turkey hoped Hollande's election might mean France is than under his conservative predecessor Sarkozy, but has so far received no public support for its EU bid from Paris.

History-Geography Teachers Council Secretary-General Hubert Tison has said the chapter in the textbooks is devoted to giving detailed information on the so-called “Armenian genocide.”

Tison criticized as “redundant” the inclusion of the chapter, which will explain in detail the genocide, ethnic structure of the Ottoman Empire, rule of Talat Pasha and policies of nationalist Turks and purported exiles. The chapter will also include the numbers of Armenians who were killed, exiled or sent to death.

Turkish Education Ministry officials said they will first need to examine the book and see if it includes phrases that incriminate Turkey and they will respond in line with international law through diplomatic channels. The officials said both countries earlier established commissions composed of experts to remove discriminatory phrases in textbooks and accused the French government of making what they said is a “politically motivated” move. 

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Here is more on that genocide,as told by European novelists Werfel,Hilsenrath(both Jewish),the article is:

"The Armenian Genocide,done by the Muslim Turks,in World Literature"

http://www.antisharia.com/2012/02/10/the-armenian-genocidedone-by-the-muslim-turksin-world-literature/

AND ALSO

"About the Assyrian-Christian Genocide by the Muslim Turks,with about 500,000 Killed"

http://www.antisharia.com/2011/04/08/about-the-assyrian-christian-genocide-by-the-muslim-turkswith-about-500000-killed/

The French Ambassador should walk calmly up the steps of the Turkish Consul-General's marble edifice stolen from the Byzantines, nod curtly to the security guard as he pens in his name at the roster in the rotunda, indicate politely that he wishes to remain standing after being ushered into the Consul-General's office, then before turning on his heels, say to the bloated mustachioed secularist Mohammedan seated at his munificent desk:

Va te faire foutre!

I know a child of a survivor of the genocide who's father made it to france and was one of a handful out of many thousands upon thousands who survived the march by befriending and joking with turkish guards and staying at the front.

So I don't need a textbook to tell me about the reality of the turkish genocide, I have it from personal sources.

yet, I don't hate turkish people I meet today or even hate turkey so perhaps this hatred of others is a turkish concept and the turkish nation should deal with its demons.

I have also witnessed the turkish blockade of Armenia in the present and seen the remains of a turkish fighter jet in Nagorno Karabakh no doubt used in the latest attempted genocide of Armenians so in my mind it's not past turkish agression that is the big deal but present turkish agression.

so turkey - don't worry about history books - put all this effort into loving your neighbor today instead because your present day actions say you wish to kill your neighbor and hide the fact.

If the French really wanted to "plant seeds of hate into minds of young people in France," they would make the Koran part of the high-school curriculum. Of course, the imams are already doing that for young Moslems in their mosques.

the so called masacare.... ask Talat Pasha who sent a million armenians to theri death chambers like hitler did.
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Turkey slams France for hate speech for including Armenian Genocide in textbooks

Pamela Geller says it: "Truth is the new hate speech."
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Very true. After the Holocaust, the Armenian Genocide is one of the most abundantly chronicled atrocities in history. There are accounts from surviving victims, from Western missionaries and diplomats, and from the Turks themselves—both from those who supported the genocide and those who were discomfited by it.

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This is the same thing that happens on a daily basis to counter-jihadists who dare to point out how Islamic jihadists use the texts and teachings of Islam to justify violence, hatred and supremacism: they are smeared with the charge of promoting "hate," when in fact all they are doing is pointing out hate.
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*So true*. The only reason teaching the Holocaust is not considered "hate speech" is that Fascism is—unlike Islam—is not considered a "politically correct" creed.

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Turkey's ongoing denial of the Armenian Genocide is consistent with an unbroken Islamic supremacist pattern: never, ever admit wrongdoing; never, ever take responsibility for actions that cause harm; never, ever acknowledge that jihad actions (such as the Armenian Genocide) cause immeasurable suffering to human beings; always, always instead blame the kuffar who have the temerity to point out the wrongdoing.
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Yes—at least, while this is politic. Right now, with the Infidel living in freedom in so many parts of the world, the Armenian Genocide is an uncomfortable embarrassment.

*However*—if Islam is ever in full ascendancy, I imagine the Armenian Genocide will be proudly bandied about as a "cautionary tale" for the Kufr—just as atrocities against Israelis are loudly celebrated by "Palestinian" Jihadists.

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"Turkey slams France for promoting hate speech with genocide initiative"

The chairman of the Turkish Parliament's powerful education committee has accused the French government of planting the seeds of hate with its move to include the so-called “Armenian genocide” in history and geography books used in French secondary schools.
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Mass-murdering Armenians = not hate. *Mentioning* the mass-murder of Armenians = "hate". Got it.

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Nabi Avcı, chairman of the National Education, Culture, Youth and Sports Commission, told Today's Zaman in a phone interview on Monday that “the erosion of French culture and moving to the radical right in French politics that started with [former president Nicolas] Sarkozy continues to have a negative impact on the French education system.”
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Translation: Nicolas Sarkozy—no matter how spotty he might have been—at least occasionally stood up to Jihad-minded Muslims in France. Can't have that—and so linking his name to some hazy sense of "hate" is a strategy for pious Muslims. They hope that Socialist Hollande will be more "Jihad-friendly".

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“I just hope that sensible French intellectuals will raise their voices against this kind of provocative move that will plant seeds of hate into minds of young people in France,” he added.
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Hoping to work on that western "liberal guilt"—even when it makes no sense. Note that Muslims rarely have any such sense of guilt—certainly not over something like massacring Christian Infidels and rendering Turkey almost completely rid of not just Armenians; but also Assyrians, Greeks, Jews, and "Levantines" (Europeans who lived in Turkey, sometimes for a century or more).

Well over a million innocent people were slaughtered by Muslims over the course of the Genocide. There is only a small remnant of Armenians and other Infidels remaining in Turkey today.

The Islamic nations understand this new concept of 'hate speech' very well!!

To say anything truthful about Islam or its violent marauding history - is hateful.

Pakistan is another country - its leaders love the 'Islamophobia' idea. This is a place which has in its constitution clauses which ban Hindus, Christians and other non-Muslims from full participation in their country - it bans equality with Muslims.

[And 9 out of 10 moderate Muslims agree :)]

Yet Pakistan is on the world stage - railing about Islamophobia - knowing that any criticism in return would be condemned as 'hate speech'!!

As Pakistan's law is based on the Shari'a - criticism is seen as an attack on Islam.

Who knew - calling for equal rights - could be viewed as an attack on Islam!


So confident is Erdogan the Turkish Prime Minister - he has said "No Muslim can commit a genocide."

It is clear where this western Islamo-anti-racism campaign is going.

One sees the dark cloud of Islamic law on the horizon - with all its restrictions therein!


The French are determined to do what they want - and when enough people speak up in other parts of the free world - these Islamo-anti-racism nut-cases will be overruled there as well. [They are in a minority - although they make a lot of noise.]


What the Muslim world hates most about the western world - is its freedom. It is the obstacle that bars them from imposing their restrictions - in these regions.

Ideals based around freedom is the biggest threat Sharia has ever faced!

Isn't the Islamic world in denial of all the atrocious crimes committed by them? What else is new? I had first hand experience with an very elderly woman who stood before me crying one day about the experience she had had as a young child in regards to this massacre. To deny this sad historical event would be to make these people victims twice. I praise France and any country that stands to remind us of past atrocities so that we may be aware of our capacity for bigotry. Denial of such events only allows for the corrupted ego to live in darkness and deceit. Are we allowed to deny our past history in regards to Indian conquests here in the states? Are the Germans allowed to deny their crimes as well as the Russians, Japanese, and many other cultures? We can go on and on but the point is admit your sins to one another and work to change.

1:30 min Sen. Obama (before his President election): “For those who are not aware of it … a genocide did take place against the Armenian people”

5:50 min Now, Obama hides cowardly the turth: “A break with such an economic & military NATO partner as the Turkey … USA don’t want to risk”


Video: “AGHET - The Genocide of Armenians

http://schnellmann.org/aghet-the-genocide.html

The cult of Moh. Mad, supremacist, violent, always in denial. There is no truth but the Koran. There is no reality but Sharia. Why would anyone expect better out of 'moderate' Turkey in denying the obvious and the factual. Greek-Christian genocide never happened? And perhaps the 1974 invasion and rape of Cyprus also, never happened ?

Mahoundians always deny their wrongdoings, they're innocent by definition.

The French author Maurice Vidal who writes for the French site RiposteLaique wrote in his book "La colère d'un Francais" (2009) about some peaceful French Armenians rallying against Turkey joining the EU. A bunch of Turkish thugs beat them up shouting, "We'll finish the job that our grandfathers didn't accomplish!" But Islam is the religion of peace(TM)

Present Turkey is on its best way to go back to the Ottoman roots. Ataturk's mission seems to have failed. It's a sorry site with Erdogaga blurting out rubbish.

Born and raised in Turkey and finished college in Turkey. All the history that I learned in schools about the Ottoman Empire and the establishment of the Republic of Turkey and the rest, when I look back, was almost totally biased, jaded, sprinkled with falsehood. It is sad but the truth is we can not expect an honest discourse from Turkish government especially now with the power hungry ERDOGAN.

What a shame that generations of people have to live with lies, not knowing what is true or not. They also believe, (majority of Turks) like all muslims, that the cause of the world's problems is the jews and America. This is because they don;t have free press and never had. We are doing our best here in America also not to have a free press. GO FIGURE.

"France’s ‘No-Go’ Zones: Where Non-Muslims Dare Not Tread."

http://www.newenglishreview.org/blog_direct_link.cfm/blog_id/43607

It isn't just France that Muslim Turkey has silenced.

It's the USA film industry, too.

Here is the story of how the epic novel 'The forty days of Musa Dargh' was prevented from being made into a suitably epic film, back during the Golden Age of Hollywood.

http://www.algemeiner.com/2012/08/10/the-turkish-lobby-played-a-long-game-–-and-won/

Also here:

http://www.newenglishreview.org/blog_direct_link.cfm/blog_id/43425

Hate-Speach? Just what is that anyway?

Muslims can't handle the truth...that's probably why it's Islamically permissible to lie...

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