Your tax dollars at work: State Department trained 450 imams on "compatibility of women's rights and Islam"

Oh yeah, this is going to work. Forget about the Qur'an's anti-woman passages.

The Qur'an likens a woman to a field (tilth), to be used by a man as he wills: "Your women are a tilth for you (to cultivate) so go to your tilth as ye will" (2:223).

It declares that a woman's testimony is worth half that of a man: "Get two witnesses, out of your own men, and if there are not two men, then a man and two women, such as ye choose, for witnesses, so that if one of them errs, the other can remind her" (2:282).

It allows men to marry up to four wives, and have sex with slave girls also: "If ye fear that ye shall not be able to deal justly with the orphans, marry women of your choice, two or three or four; but if ye fear that ye shall not be able to deal justly (with them), then only one, or (a captive) that your right hands possess, that will be more suitable, to prevent you from doing injustice" (4:3).

It rules that a son's inheritance should be twice the size of that of a daughter: "Allah (thus) directs you as regards your children's (inheritance): to the male, a portion equal to that of two females" (4:11).

Worst of all, the Qur’an tells husbands to beat their disobedient wives: "Men are in charge of women, because Allah hath made the one of them to excel the other, and because they spend of their property (for the support of women). So good women are the obedient, guarding in secret that which Allah hath guarded. As for those from whom ye fear rebellion, admonish them and banish them to beds apart, and scourge them" (4:34). It allows for marriage to pre-pubescent girls, stipulating that Islamic divorce procedures “shall apply to those who have not yet menstruated” (65:4).

But never mind all that. Islam and women's rights are compatible! The State Department is on the job: "State Dept. Trained 450 Imams on the ‘Compatibility of Women’s Rights and Islam,’" by Elizabeth Harrington for CNS News, August 16 (thanks to David):

(CNSNews.com) – As part of its effort to combat “gender-based violence,” the U.S. State Department has trained 450 Muslim leaders (imams), using a curriculum focusing on the “compatibility of women’s rights and Islam,” according to a report released on Friday.

The report, “United States Strategy to Prevent and Respond to Gender-based Violence Globally,” was released by the State Department and the United States Agency for International Development (USAID) on Aug. 10, after President Barack Obama issued an executive order instructing government agencies to come up with a “multi-year strategy that will more effectively prevent and respond to gender-based violence globally.”

The report cites “anecdotal evidence,” gleaned form interviews and focus groups, to show how the imam training has helped, as follows (verbatim):

-- One religious leader from Herat (Afghanistan) explained that since participating in project trainings, when he presides over marriages, whether he officiates the wedding ceremony or not, he asks the age of the bride and for proof of her consent, and he uses the opportunity to publicly discuss the importance of the bride’s consent to marriage. He even reported stopping a marriage when he found out that the bride had not given her consent.

-- Focus group participants agreed that since their local imams have started discussing women’s right to education in Friday sermons, the barriers for women going to school have been reduced.

-- Several focus group participants recounted stories about women’s families providing them with a fair share of inheritance after the imams in their communities were
influenced by the curriculum and trainings.

-- Community members in the focus groups agreed that most imams have been speaking out about women’s rights in Islam, women’s inheritance rights, and condemning violence against women.

-- In some communities, wives of imams trained in the curriculum were using it to educate women in their communities of their rights.

The U.S. government defines gender-based violence as violence that is directed at an individual based on his or her biological sex, gender identity, or how a person is perceived to follow socially defined norms of masculinity and femininity.

The State Department says such violence includes physical, sexual, and psychological abuse; threats; coercion; arbitrary deprivation of liberty; and economic deprivation.

Millions of U.S. taxpayer dollars are poured into the effort: For FY 2013, the State Department and USAID requested $147.1 million for programs addressing gender-based violence worldwide, an increase of approximately $30 million over the FY 2012 request of $117.2 million.

Shari’a law

In many Muslim-majority nations, the harsh and unequal treatment of women stems from strict Islamic (shari’a) law.

In its 2011 report on Human Rights Practices for Afghanistan, the State Department noted that “endemic violence and societal discrimination against women and girls” remains one of the country’s most significant problems.

The human rights report cites forced marriages, child marriages, the practice of exchanging women to settle disputes, forced isolation, and honor killings as “customary practices” in Afghanistan.

Some observers point to verses in the Koran that justify discrimination against women in society. For instance, Sura 4:3, sanctions polygamy, saying men can have up to four wives. “And if you fear that you will not deal justly with the orphan girls, then marry those that please you of [other] women, two or three or four,” the Koran states.

Another verse, Sura 2:282, indicates that a woman’s testimony is worth only half that of a man: “And bring to witness two witnesses from among your men. And if there are not two men [available], then a man and two women from those whom you accept as witnesses - so that if one of the women errs, then the other can remind her”...

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are you kidding? what a bunch of morons!!
m

Big lecture hall filled with 450 big beared, big bellied imams doodling away of State Dept. pens and pads,


"Blah, blah, blah."

Yea, this imams are about to take the word of some Ivy-trained twerp from Hillary's State Dept. over the Quran.

Well, at least the twerps felt they were "doing something" to combat Islamic terrorism. They've really earned their incredibly undeserved salaries.

"...a “multi-year strategy that will more effectively prevent and respond to gender-based violence globally.”

Who does he think he is?

The emperor or the caliph of a thousand year REICH?

The sociopath Barry Hussein really believes he is meant to be a global ruler....


CAIR canada seems to deflect all the msulim violence and misogyn to females as "Domestic Violence" as to blame all males in canada for what many muslim males are guilty of.

without changing the Koran, there will always be a "woman's room," especially as the image of Muhammad (lately contrived) is regularly asserted in the daytoday of any brother by these same imams.

In the history of Christianity in North Africa, Christianity has managed to stand and not be totally destroyed by other religions that have now dominated these countries which are Morocco, Algeria, Tunisia, Libya and Egypt and may more others. What has kept these certain countries to carry on believing in Jesus when people get persecuted for the sake of the Gospel?

Read more: http://www.maghrebchristians.com/2012/08/16/the-cry-of-north-africa-for-christ/#ixzz23j4grKZL

Youssef

Taking the teachings of the Quran and sharia law is indeed interesting since Muslims are required to adhere to those teachings or be branded a heretic or a blasphemer since the teachings by Mohamed are considered pure for all time and cannot be abrogated.

This has got to be a joke!! State Dept is teaching imams about compatibility of woman's tights and Islam. Who know Islam more - imams or State Dept?

Imams must be laughing and snickering - who is brain dead here imams or the State Sept. Obvious answer - State Dept. Please dept tell it them, they won't know it!!

Once again: our naive U.S. State Department totally misses the whole point (Islam) and assumes that these savages can somehow be redeemed and/or bribed with more of Uncle Sam's resources. Does gender violence also fall into the category of "work-place violence" or "man-caused disasters"? What might be the most effective in curbing gender-based violence would be to enable Christian missionaries to provide the Gospel to these lost people. That would, in itself, drive the PC left and the ACLU crazy, I know, but it would also meet & solve the real problem with old fashioned confidence & resolve. Something that is in very short supply in these days of depressing relativism and cultural self-hatred.

What a waste of money. Why is the government educating people on their religion?

Hmmm. We have an inverse proportional relationship at work here, to wit, the more Islam you have the fewer the rights for women; the less Islam you have the more rights you have for women (to be discarded by any sane, knowledgeable person is the assertion that Islam actually honors and respects women, blah, blah, blah).

But who in their right mind should ever conclude that trusting imams to have less Islam is a winning strategy? Let's see here, who could be dopey enough to think this way? Ah yes, those in the federal government. Yep, now it all makes sense.

What a hoot! When I read this my first reaction was to laugh my ass off. But then I reminded myself...I'm paying for this! Not really such a hoot, then. Kinda' more like a tragicomedy...

Could Islam conceivingly be reformed, as Judaism and Christianity went through reformation and redefinition, removing some elements that were not compatible with changing circumstances, or would a "reformed" Islam in fact no longer be Islam?

Well I certainly hope the State Dept can teach the Imans a thing or two about Islam...

it is depressing to say the least. here we are working our asses off to make a living, meanwhile our tax$$$ are being pissed away. those imams are laughing all the way to the bank.
M

Obama must go away, if we want to start fighting off ISLAM. I'd get much more satisfaction if I could just burn my tax dollars. UNBELIEVABLE STUFF, WOW!

Miriam, I'd rather have the State Dept pay you to have those guys over for scotch and cigars! They would find it so fun & relaxing that they would give up their careers as imamians and join the human race. And $147.1 Million will buy lots of scotch and cigars! Maybe we could get a government grant?

So the Department of State has become the Department of Islamic State headed jointly by Hilarious Clinton and Huma Abedin ( Allal-din?).

Your tax dollars at work: State Department trained 450 imams on "compatibility of women's rights and Islam"
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Uh...right. They'll take the word of the filthy Kaffir, no doubt...sarc/off

Here's one pious Muslim—he looks as though he might be an American "revert"—on just this subject.

He talks about the US authorities promoting a "fake, moderate Islam", or "Kuffar Islam", backed by "Cross-Worshippers and Jews".

He describes human rights as "lies that destroy Islam", and that anyone who follows this moderate Islam is "an apostate".

This pious Muslim—who has one of the lowest foreheads I have ever seen, incidentally—is hardly alone. You can find screeds all over the internet lambasting attempts to "whitewash" Islam, or water it down.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPUc0pA8y7w

I imagine most of these Imams just pocketed the foolish Infidels' money.

But the few Imams who may have taken this "moderate Islam" which protects women's rights to heart—if such there be—will find themselves rejected by their devout congregations, who know damn well that true Islam means nothing but oppression and violence against women, and will resist any attempts for it to mean anything else.

Did anybody mention the "immutable Koran?"

"Millions of U.S. taxpayer dollars are poured into the effort: For FY 2013, the State Department and USAID requested $147.1 million for programs addressing gender-based violence worldwide, an increase of approximately $30 million over the FY 2012 request of $117.2 million."

Untold billions spent on Western involvement in islamic civil wars, enhanced security, benefits for muslim refugees and immigrants, "muslim outreach" programs, any number of concessions in employment, food, etc. etc. and now this. Has anyone ever tried to calculate what islam has cost us since 9/11? Is it any wonder Western nations are bankrupt? Economic jihad at its finest.

Wellington, I'm an old State employee myself, and I'm not surprised at this kind of thing. There's another blog called DiploMad 2.0 out there where you'll read even worse from a guy who was in longer and did more than I did. Yes, it's ridiculous when people whose theological educations (Sunday School level) ended when they were 12 years old try to convince a bunch of beardies that they know Islamic law and doctrine better than the beardies' own revered teachers at Qom and Al Azhar. You and I know it. But official America is too wrapped up in its own self-importance to notice.

Foreign Service officers (FSO) take a pretty tough test to get themselves hired--along with background check, securiyt clearance, blahblahblah. Once in, they get told throughout their first two weeks of training that they're the best and brightest that America has (and some of them are). After they've been in a while, they have to come up with brilliant initiatives that might justify the promotions they need in order to stay in. They win a few bureaucratic kudos and truf fights, and quite a few come to think that they really can walk on water.

This initiative strikes me as the proposal of some naive twerp from a prestigious institution of tertiary education which caught the imagination of the boss--namely Hillary Rodham Clinton, someone who is convinced beyond the slightest shadow of a doubt that she is the most brilliant bearer of two X chromosones that ever walked our sorry planet, and that if she doesn't become the first woman POTUS, all women and girls in America will lose hope, and the country will sink into troglodytism with the next Prex who didn't go to Haaaaaahvaaahd.

Given that the creed of people like our current SecState, and doubtlessly not a few honorable members of Congress reads, "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that whereas Catholics are fools for believing the Pope infallible and Protestants dumber for thinking such of the Bible, when no-one is infallible save anyone graduating in the top half of an Ivy League undergraduate program, especially if female...", this crack-brained scheme was bound to get a nice appropriation that would have served the country better had it been put into rehab for wounded veterans or secondary vocational education.

Now, I am absolutely certain that the mullahs, between sessions, smirk into their beards with each other, conversing in various unofficial dialects of the countries they come from (to be certain that nobody from the aptly named Foggy Bottom listens in--State really does know people who understand Urdu, Farsi, Pashto, and Arabic) about how dumb the Kufr are; and when speaking English, engage in Taqiyya right and left; leaving our wonderful minions of the US Department of State thinking about how wonderful they are.

I reached this conclusion remembering how, when I was being trained in Southeast Asian affairs, that "Monsoon" Islam is kinder and gentler than "Desert" Islam; and that Sufis are so lovey-dovey because they dialogued with Quakers (the most unthinkingly unctious sect in Christendom)--with nary a thought for the run for our money the Sufi Moros gave both our own forces in the early 20th century and the military of the independent Philippines; the role of Sufis in Central Asian and Kavkaz area resistance movements, etc.

AAAAUUUGHHH! (in the immortal words of Charlie Brown) How I hate to bad mouth my former employers. But what I have said is my take on things.

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