Canada: "Then I stab her, stab her neck. She said, 'No Mom!' I said, 'It's for your good. Let me finish.'"

Attempted honor murder in Montreal.

Muslims commit 91 percent of honor killings worldwide. A manual of Islamic law certified as a reliable guide to Sunni orthodoxy by Al-Azhar University, the most respected authority in Sunni Islam, says that "retaliation is obligatory against anyone who kills a human being purely intentionally and without right." However, "not subject to retaliation" is "a father or mother (or their fathers or mothers) for killing their offspring, or offspring's offspring." ('Umdat al-Salik o1.1-2). In other words, someone who kills his child incurs no legal penalty under Islamic law.

The Palestinian Authority gives pardons or suspended sentences for honor murders. Iraqi women have asked for tougher sentences for Islamic honor murderers, who get off lightly now. Syria in 2009 scrapped a law limiting the length of sentences for honor killings, but "the new law says a man can still benefit from extenuating circumstances in crimes of passion or honour 'provided he serves a prison term of no less than two years in the case of killing.'" And in 2003 the Jordanian Parliament voted down on Islamic grounds a provision designed to stiffen penalties for honor killings. Al-Jazeera reported that "Islamists and conservatives said the laws violated religious traditions and would destroy families and values."

In light of all this, until authorities get the courage to tell the truth about honor killing, there will be many more such murders.

"‘It’s for your good. Let me finish’: Afghan-Canadian mother told police she stabbed her daughter with a kitchen knife," by Graeme Hamilton for the National Post, September 26 (thanks to Michael):

MONTREAL – For months, Bahar Ebrahimi had been rebelling against her parents, complaining their Afghan culture and Muslim religion were suffocating her. “I want to enjoy my life. I want to feel what the other ones feel,” she told them, according to her mother’s statement to police.

It was June, 2010, Grand Prix weekend in downtown Montreal, and on two straight nights the 19-year-old stayed out past dawn against her parents’ wishes.

For her mother, Johra Kaleki, the behaviour confirmed that all her efforts to steer her eldest daughter on the right path had failed. “I felt like she would never be fixed,” she told Sgt.-Det. Alexandre Bertrand in an interrogation video played Wednesday in Quebec Court.

As her crying husband spoke to Bahar in the basement of their Dorval home, Ms. Kaleki went upstairs and grabbed a large knife from the kitchen counter, the one she used to chop meat, she recounted. “I said, ‘This is the time.’ ”

She hid the knife under her T-shirt, returned to the basement, and told her husband the problem would best be resolved between mother and daughter. “Just leave us alone for five minutes,” she said she told him. “Don’t come until I call you.”

He left and she cuddled her first-born and told her to lie on her stomach so she could give her a back massage. “Then I stab her, stab her neck,” she confessed. “She said, ‘No Mom!’ I said, ‘It’s for your good. Let me finish.’ ”

Earlier in the interrogation, Sgt.-Det. Bertrand has asked whether the knife blade was sharp. “No, it wasn’t,” she replied. “I wish it was. I wanted to give her the peace that she needed.”

Bahar survived the attack, suffering serious knife wounds to her head and shoulder. Ms. Kaleki, 40, is charged with attempted murder, aggravated assault and illegal use of a weapon.

Her husband, alerted by Bahar’s screams, rushed downstairs and grabbed the knife from Ms. Kaleki, the court heard. “I said to my husband, let me finish her.’ ” She tried to choke her daughter, she said, and after Bahar escaped, she chased her upstairs and tried to break down the locked door to the bedroom where she was calling 911.

She was arrested, and after being treated in hospital for a knife wound on her own arm, she told her story to Sgt.-Det. Bertrand.

The first night Bahar stayed out late, informing her parents she was downtown enjoying a concert, they went to the local police station to file a report, Ms. Kaleki said. The officer told them there was nothing that could be done. “He said, ‘She’s safe. Don’t worry. She’s a teenager.’ ”

But the idea of a rebellious teenage girl was foreign to her parents. They expected Bahar to be home by 11 p.m. and not to smoke, drink or have boyfriends.

After the second night, when Bahar said she had spent much of the evening walking along St. Laurent Blvd., Ms. Kaleki was horrified. “I asked her, ‘Are you a prostitute? Are you a whore?’ ” she said.

A few months earlier, when Ms. Kaleki discovered Bahar was being harassed by an ex-boyfriend, she blamed her daughter. After speaking to the boy once on the phone, Ms. Kaleki decided he sounded like “a very good Muslim guy” and told Bahar he would make a good husband. “Probably you’ve done something to drive him crazy,” she told her. “I know you. You’re my daughter.” Bahar refused the idea of marriage, calling the boy a “psycho.”

Toward the end of the four-hour interview, the detective asked Ms. Kaleki whether she had anything to add. “I hope she gets well,” she said referring to her daughter. But she did not want her to emerge unscarred.

“She live with that wound,” she continued, pointing to her neck, “she remembers me.” The experience “will make her strong and give her wisdom. . . . It means she will give up her ways of living.”...

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More proof that Islam creates psychotic episodes in shahada addicts...'I'm helping my daughter by killing her, or scaring her up...Hopefully she will be better now'...
Sick and pathetic...

My God, this woman doesn't even feel any remorse.
This crime is shocking for us, non-muslims, but in islam one is allowed to kill one's children and grand-children.
Horrible.

Changed my sign-in name because the old one just couldn't be accessed.

"I wanted to give her the peace that she needed"---

See?, Islam is indeed the religion of peace!.

Let's keep in mind that the Muslim husband prevented the killing from occurring. So, not every Muslim parent will kill their child, although it's certainly part of the culture.

The real lesson to be learned is that in no respect should Muslim women be considered as allies to any freedom movement, simply because they are women. The women are just as brain-washed as the Muslim males, maybe more so. We should never give in to the temptation to give refugee status to a Muslim woman just because she's abused in Muslim society.

The experience “will make her [Bahar Ebrahimi] strong and give her wisdom"

Hopefully strong enough to find another faith - including possibly none - that will guide her better than her mother.

Yes, O.K., mom, I'll just lay here and allow you to stab me to death. As a prostitute and a whore, I know it's for my own good.

Apparently the notion--made mostly by clerics--that every Muslim loves death more than the rest of us love life isn't quite accurate.

I do hope, after her conviction and imprisonment, that she is deported and that for the benefit of those Canadians who just aren't "getting it" yet that she will be given the opportunity to publicly explain how incompatible Canadian culture and law are with those of Afghanistan and of Islam.

Make it a teachable moment.

This is not only the umpteenth example of an honor killing, it's also the umpteenth example of a female Muslim being -- contrary to the irrational sentimentalism of quite a few in the Counter Jihad for the fairer sex -- just as fanatically deadly as those Muslims who happen to have penises.

I don't know about those sentimentalists, but I stopped treating Muslim women any differently than Muslim men by about the umpteenth time I saw some Muslim woman saying, or doing, something that showed her hopeless commitment to the deadly seditious fanaticism of Islam.

It's time we practice a ruthless gender equality here, and revise our passenger ship policy aboard the U.S.S. Occidental -- to "Women and children and Kuffar first!" -- while we still have time to save our disastrously titanic policy concerning Muslims.

What sort of twisted "religion" turns natural love of a mother for her child into this?

I am getting to the point where I think Islam should be outlawed here in the West. But I don't know how to do that in a way that still protects personal and religious freedoms and basic Constitutionality here in the U.S.

What I do know is that any ideology that has show itself to result in the endless savagery that we see in Islam has no placed in civilized lands. If Muslims wish to behave in this manner, let them do so in their own countries.

So where do we go from here? I honestly don't know anymore.

Sick.....this is only what we hear. We don't hear so many abuses in this culture of Islam all over the world as they keep it in the "honest family".

Mo, the U.S. Constitution is not a suicide pact. It is not meant to protect an organization dedicated to violent deadly sedition which has already had its members actually mass-murdering American citizens in various places, and plotting more mass-murderous attacks over the years.

If there were a Religion X whose core teaching specifically and clearly mandates its followers to shoot elderly ladies crossing streets; and if innumerable followers of this Religion X had already begun to shoot and kill elderly ladies in various places (beginning with a spectacularly coordinated attack massacring 3,000 elderly ladies in one day and continuing with other attacks), while other followers of Religion X had been caught plotting same, and furthermore innumerable other followers have been caught in various ways (speeches, literature, seminars, websites, etc.) fomenting, inciting and justifying this idea of killing elderly ladies -- and if the followers of Religion X were mostly white Westerners, then the American government (and other Western governments with their own constitutions and laws that similarly are not crippled from defending their societies) would have stripped all of them of their rights, rounded them up and put them in detention camps and/or put them on an island long ago.

Mo,

Until American politicians and journalists publicly and bravely tell their constituents and consumers--Muslims, too--that criticism of Islam is not prohibited here, that Islam is neither sacred to the vast majority of Americans nor deserving of special treatment here, that (despite all the whining that will result) Islam actually does include teachings that are antithetical to democracy, are incompatible with our constitution, and which, if carried out, would result in prosecution in accordance with our man-made, secular laws, nothing can get done, IMO.

jeffry dahamer "believed" in cannibalism. the government did not excuse his actions because of his beliefs.

islam was on the governmant "undesirables" list for many decades and not admitted for immigration. it should have stayed that way.

There may be an added element in the cases of brainwashed muslim women. Maybe a hint of jealousy? Since the women never had a chance at any kind of freedom, no other woman will have it either. It is so difficult to comprehend what would lead a woman to kill her daughter....

This woman should receive the harshest sentence available in Canadian law. This should also serve as a warning to other muslims thinking of committing similar acts that there is 0 tolerance for this kind of savage behavior in Canada.
The Canadian judicial system has not done a very good job protecting the rights of law abiding citizens in recent years so maybe this is an incentive to make some changes.
Stephen Harper are you listening??
IN ANY WAR BETWEEN THE CIVILIZED MAN AND THE SAVAGE, SUPPORT THE CIVILIZED MAN. SUPPORT CANADIAN VALUES.


I clicked on the link and read the original story - noticing, by the way, that this family could pass for Korean/ East Asian, they are probably of Hazara ethnicity - and then I read one of the other related reports.

http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/09/25/if-she-survives-she-will-become-more-wise-afghan-woman-accused-of-stabbing-daughter-at-montreal-home/

and I came across **this**, which echoes something that I encountered elsewhere, in another account of an abusive Muslim parent.

'Ms. Kaleki’s defence lawyers are challenging the admissibility of the video, as well as statements made by Ms. Kaleki to arresting officers and medical staff, on the grounds that she was mentally distraught at the time.

'One of those statements was, **“It’s my daughter; I can do what I want.”** {my emphasis - dda}.

"It's my daughter, I can do what I want'.

Echoing, I am 100 percent sure, the sharia principle that a parent (or grandparent) has power of life and death over their offspring, that they can act as judge, jury *and executioner*, as Mr Spencer pointed out above in his introductory commentary:

'"not subject to retaliation" is "a father or mother (or their fathers or mothers) for killing their offspring, or offspring's offspring." ('Umdat al-Salik o1.1-2). In other words, someone who kills his child incurs no legal penalty under Islamic law.'

Now, here are other words: words said by Saudi Arab Muslim police, to a half-English half-Arab girl fleeing from the abusive Muslim father who had whisked her away as a young girl from England to Saudi Arabia, after his marriage to an Englishwoman, the girl's mother, ended in divorce.

In this report:
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2010/04/11/british-girl-of-10-kept-in-saudi-hell-hole-for-11-years-by-her-dad-115875-22176525/


Excerpt:

'By 2002 when Hana was 14 she was so desperate she went to the Saudi police for help…but was sent back to her father.

'She says: “I told them he was keeping me there against my will and all they said was, ‘He’s your father, if he wants he can kill you’"..

There it is, Sunni Arab Muslims in Saudi Arabia, telling a terrified young teenager - "He's your father, if he wants he can kill you".

And then, a murderous Afghan Muslim mama, who has just tried to 'honor' murder her 19 year old daughter, telling a Canadian policeman: "It's my daughter, I can do what I want'.

Translation: "It's my daughter and I have the right to kill her if I want to, if I think it Islamically right to do so".

Arab or Afghan, but the common thing is...Islam.

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