Chris Christie's friend, New Jersey Imam Mohammed Qatanani, wants Sharia blasphemy laws criminalizing criticism of Islam in the U.S.

Chris Christie quite recently called Qatanani his "friend." Will he explain to his friend about the importance of the freedom of speech now?

Investigative journalist Daniel Greenfield reports that “despite the fact that Mohammed Qatanani was a member of the Muslim Brotherhood, the organization that is behind both al-Qaeda and Hamas, despite his own guilty plea to being a member of Hamas, and despite the fact that even in the United States, he had defended a charity that provided funds to children of suicide bombers (this is done as an incentive to reassure terrorists that if they die their families will be taken care of), Qatanani was not deported.”

"Free Speech That Mocks Islam Is National Security Threat for U.S., Prominent NJ Imam Tells TheBlaze," by Tiffany Gabbay for The Blaze, September 20 (thanks to all who sent this in):

...In fact, so grave is mockery of the prophet considered, that the cleric – Mohammad Qatanani, who leads one of the largest mosques in New Jersey – even believes free speech that criticizes Islam poses a national security threat to the U.S. and that those responsible should be investigated by the Department of Homeland Security.

“We, as Americans, have to put limits and borders [on] freedom of speech,” Qatanani, leader of the Islamic Center of Passaic County (ICPC), told TheBlaze. He explained that while Americans may ”have the freedom“ to speak their mind, ultimately, they “have no right to [talk about Muslim] holy issues“ as it will incite ”hatred or war among people.”

Qatanani said he thinks agitators who slander Islam, or, more specifically, the Prophet Muhammad, incite violence and hence, pose a national security risk that threatens the safety of Americans at home and abroad. Thus, America should disregard its First Amendment as it is typically applied and instead act in accordance with sharia law for the ultimate “good” of society.

In an exclusive interview with TheBlaze, the cleric, who was nearly deported in 2008 for failing to disclose his former ties to the terrorist organization Hamas on a 1996 Green Card application, explained that Muslims are required by Islam to respect the law of the land in their host-countries. He followed up that statement, however, with a treatise on how those who slander the prophet be pursued legally.

While some leaders within the Muslim community have spoken out against the anti-America driven violence in the Middle East, many have qualified their condemnation with moral equivalence, treating a film dubbed “Innocence of Muslims” (which some claim served as the catalyst for the attacks), with even harsher disdain than they do murder. Qatanani said the Obama White House should take legal action against the filmmakers.

“My position is that White House has to say strong in its condemnation [of the filmmakers] and take this person to court. If he is innocent, we will accept that… The government has strong case against this person.”

When asked what can be done to prevent future attacks, Qatanani invoked Homeland Security again, suggesting that the department actually step-in to prevent artists, composers, movie-makers, or satirists (among others), from producing works critical of Islam and the Prophet Muhammad. He believes it is in America’s best interest to quell this kind of free speech as it “ruins” America’s image abroad and will ultimately hurt people.

Qatanani’s statements make it appear that, in so many words, the cleric is advocating for the U.S. to operate by sharia law – the religious law of Islam – when it comes to freedom of speech as it relates to Islam. If so, it would seem to echo comments in a previous report on TheBlaze outlining Islamists’ “10-year plan” to make slandering Islam unlawful on an international level.

American freedom versus Islamic freedom

One of the most revealing insights made by the controversial faith leader came when he juxtaposed American freedom with the type of freedom permitted under sharia law.

The imam acknowledged that observant Muslims view freedom only through the lens of that which is permitted by the Quran and Sunnah, the two sacred texts of Islam, and is therefore much different from the way Americans view freedom.

“They [Muslims] think our [American] freedoms are too much,” Qatanani said. “The freedom of the American people is so different from their [Muslims'] freedoms. We believe freedoms have limits and rules, otherwise we will get people into trouble…Freedom according to Islam must be according to the Quran and Sunnah. You can do [anything] you like within the teachings of these two resources. This is the difference and main reason [for the conflict].”

A different standard of freedom?

“People there [in the Middle East] don’t understand the American Constitution and freedom of speech,” Qatanani said. We have to understand each other because misunderstanding is a killing issue… The issue of Prophet Muhammad is very delicate – they [Muslims] will not accept in any way, anybody who talks badly about Muhammad.”...

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Cowardice of our leaders is legendary- the UK's version of this evil clown is Anjem Choudary, another who should be deported or locked safely away, permanently.

Sharia law?

Also Allah forbidds blasphemy

Q. 5:73 "They do blaspheme who say: Allah is one of three in a Trinity (God of Christians, highest sin: shirk): for there is no god except One God. If they desist not from their word (of blasphemy), verily a grievous penalty will befall the blasphemers among them."


(video, 2 min) "Islam respects the fundamental dignity of human beings"
— Hillary Clinton

vs. Allah, Q. 8:12 “… I will CAST TERROR into the hearts of those who have disbelieved”

Iran: Obama can be sued in US courts under UN blasphemy law that he signed onto

“Hoisted by his own anti-free speech petard. If they do this, we will see whether treaties that the U.S. has signed can SUPERSEDE the First Amendment. …”

http://schnellmann.org/hr-resolution-16-18-criminalisation-of-criticism-of-islam.html

Yet another piece of evidence in an accumulation of so much evidence respecting how Governor Chris Christie of New Jersey, good though he is on economic matters, remains stubbornly clueless about Islam.

So often a person can understand this or that quite well but still be a complete doofus on another this or that. Governor Christie is arguably Exhibit Number One here.

criticism of Muhammad (lately contrived; often portrayed as a vile person capable of muder, rape, brutalities, and as having other savage caracteristics) will inspire hatred and war among people?

we don't want a society emulating such a phantom

the mayor knows better.

... "We, as Americans, have to put limits and borders(?) [on] freedom of speech,"

Put "limits and boders" on freedom? I don't understand!?


Either you have freedom (of speech; so-long it is true),
or not! (just as one cannot be a little pregnant)

This is in reality the destruction of the 1st First Amendment

So it looks like a case of bipartisan treason. Will Robert therefore now be referring to the "Republic" party? (Not holding my breath here.)

Thank you imam Qatanani,

“The freedom of the American people is so different from their [Muslims'] freedoms."

You have clearly pointed out the extreme incompatibility between the belief of Muslims and citizens of the United States.

Now, since we already hold our beliefs, and don't wish to change them under threat of violence, it seems from your own statement, it only makes sense to exclude Muslims from any further immigration to Western countries. The only rationale for doing so it the widely-held view that immigrants will assimilate to reflect the ideals of the European enlightenment. You have clearly assured us that Muslims will not change their views on freedom, regardless of their environment.

Therefore, by your own words, every Muslim we allow to immigrate is a permanent dilution of our freedom.

No wonder you want to make discussion of Islamic ideas and Muslim immigration off-bounds. There is absolutely no way a rational discussion on immigration could conclude anything but the overwhelming benefits of excluding Muslims as Muslims.

"Composers", eh? Did any anti-Islam composers pick up on this one, and get an idea? A "Life of Mohammed" opera could be stunning. The music and singing could gradually give way so there was only increasingly ominous drumming, and then silence. The music could tell the story. (Imagine the "Song of Aisha" as she sits on her swing dreaming of her life to come, not knowing she will be soon removed from her swing and sent in to serve Mohammed...and later the "Second Song of Aisha" as she spends the night with the young man in the desert and finds her voice, very symbolic...)

Christie must be Norquist bosom buddy.

2008: When serving as U.S. attorney for New Jersey, Christie embraced and kissed Mohammed Qatanani, imam of the Islamic Center of Passaic County, and praised him as “a man of great goodwill.”
2010: After Derek Fenton burned three pages of a Koran at a 9/11 memorial ceremony, his employer, New Jersey Transit, got Christie’s approval to fire him. Protecting Islam at the expense of the constitutional right to free speech, Christie endorsed Fenton’s termination: “That kind of intolerance is something I think is unacceptable. So I don’t have any problem with him being fired.”
2011: Christie appointed an Islamist, Sohail Mohammed, to the New Jersey state superior court. Mohammed’s record includes serving as general counsel to the American Muslim Union (which has stated that a “Zionist Commando Orchestrated The 9-11 Terrorist Attacks”),
“Shari’a law has nothing to do with this [appointment of Mohammed] at all. It’s crazy. It’s crazy. . . . So, this Shari’a law business is crap. It’s just crazy. And I’m tired of dealing with the crazies. I mean, you know, it’s just unnecessary to be accusing this guy of things just because of his religious background.” For this outburst, unsurprisingly, the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) thanked and applauded Christie.

Chris Christie's friend, New Jersey Imam Mohammed Qatanani, wants Sharia blasphemy laws criminalizing criticism of Islam in the U.S.

Chris Christie quite recently called Qatanani his "friend." Will he explain to his friend about the importance of the freedom of speech now?
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I wouldn't count on it...

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"Free Speech That Mocks Islam Is National Security Threat for U.S., Prominent NJ Imam Tells TheBlaze"
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What an utter lie. It is homicidal Muslims who are the national security threat.

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...In fact, so grave is mockery of the prophet considered, that the cleric – Mohammad Qatanani, who leads one of the largest mosques in New Jersey – even believes free speech that criticizes Islam poses a national security threat to the U.S. and that those responsible should be investigated by the Department of Homeland Security.
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But actual Jihadists should be given free reign. This has *nothing* to do with the security of the United States, and everything to do with Qatanani seeing an opportunity to impose Shari'ah blasphemy laws.

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“We, as Americans, have to put limits and borders [on] freedom of speech,” Qatanani, leader of the Islamic Center of Passaic County (ICPC), told TheBlaze. He explained that while Americans may ”have the freedom“ to speak their mind, ultimately, they “have no right to [talk about Muslim] holy issues“ as it will incite ”hatred or war among people.”
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Why is it that—so often—pious Muslims refer to themselves as "Americans" right before suggesting our freedoms be crushed and replaced with Shari'ah law? Oh, wait..,I just answered my own question.

And note what he posits—that we should give up our own freedom of speech, because otherwise his own coreligionists will act like violent barbarians. Notice that he doesn't address these savages at all...

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In an exclusive interview with TheBlaze, the cleric, who was nearly deported in 2008 for failing to disclose his former ties to the terrorist organization Hamas on a 1996 Green Card application, explained that Muslims are required by Islam to respect the law of the land in their host-countries. He followed up that statement, however, with a treatise on how those who slander the prophet be pursued legally.
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There is *no* legal basis for this, unless we impose aspects of Shari'ah law, and void the First Amendment.

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“My position is that White House has to say strong in its condemnation [of the filmmakers] and take this person to court. If he is innocent, we will accept that… The government has strong case against this person.”
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The government has *no* case against the filmmaker, you lying Mohammedan—not under our existing freedoms, anyway. Because Nakoula did *nothing* illegal in creating it.

There would only be a case against him *under Sahri'ah law*.

How could Nakoula prove his "innocence" under Shari'ah? The only way would be to prove he had nothing to do with creating the film. Otherwise, he would be guilty.

Also, note that Qaranani never tells us what that would mean. It wouldn't mean a fine for "defamation", or even a jail sentence. Under full Shari'ah, it would *mean death*.

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When asked what can be done to prevent future attacks, Qatanani invoked Homeland Security again, suggesting that the department actually step-in to prevent artists, composers, movie-makers, or satirists (among others), from producing works critical of Islam and the Prophet Muhammad.
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F*ck you, Imam.

Here's some of my work, which is pretty damn "critical of Islam":

http://s478.photobucket.com/albums/rr144/gravenimageartist/?action=view¤t=AishasWedding-1.jpg

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He believes it is in America’s best interest to quell this kind of free speech as it “ruins” America’s image abroad and will ultimately hurt people.
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Bullsh*t. He believes it is in the best interests of Islam to "quell this kind of free speech".

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One of the most revealing insights made by the controversial faith leader came when he juxtaposed American freedom with the type of freedom permitted under sharia law.

The imam acknowledged that observant Muslims view freedom only through the lens of that which is permitted by the Quran and Sunnah, the two sacred texts of Islam, and is therefore much different from the way Americans view freedom.

“They [Muslims] think our [American] freedoms are too much,” Qatanani said. “The freedom of the American people is so different from their [Muslims'] freedoms. We believe freedoms have limits and rules, otherwise we will get people into trouble…Freedom according to Islam must be according to the Quran and Sunnah. You can do [anything] you like within the teachings of these two resources. This is the difference and main reason [for the conflict].”
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What crap. There is no freedom for the slaves of Islam.

And notice how his "we" keeps vacillating between "Americans" and "Muslims". The idea that he actually identifies as an American in any substantive way is just grotesquely laughable.

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“People there [in the Middle East] don’t understand the American Constitution and freedom of speech,” Qatanani said. We have to understand each other because misunderstanding is a killing issue… The issue of Prophet Muhammad is very delicate – they [Muslims] will not accept in any way, anybody who talks badly about Muhammad.”...
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The only ones making it a "killing issue" are these barbarians.

Why doesn't Qatanani—as a good "American"—explain American freedoms to his Muslim cohort? Waiting...

If Chris Christie has any future aspirations for higher office in the future, this will and must be the big elephant in the room if that time comes.

We desperately need leaders who get it, who understand it, who are willing to confront it.

If Christie is supposed to be the bold,and deliberate leader he is projected as,it is long overdue for him to take a serious look at Islamic supremacists. Will he see the error of his ways or will he once again bully his way into a deadly serious issue that any civilized and intelligent man and woman can see easily. Does Christie really think 9-11 was an anomaly, or the nearly 75 attempted attacks on the US since 9-11 by Muslims,not to mention The Fort Hood Massacre and others. Yes sadly there are more to come because they are increasing yearly. The FBI can only stop so many, and thank God they still have the necessary tools to do so. There is no question that we would be in a World of hurt without the Patriot Act

We don't need Republicans like Christie to act like the leftards in our society who couldn't see the forest through the trees or cannot see the duck in the pond for what it really is.

Politically and militarily we need more stand up individuals like the no nonsense Lt.Col Allen West, and Peter Kings in our nation to help insure our country from the scourge that is infiltrated the EU Countries over the last 35 years.

Andy Lewis wrote:

So it looks like a case of bipartisan treason. Will Robert therefore now be referring to the "Republic" party? (Not holding my breath here.)
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Andy, Robert Spencer has been criticizing dhimmitude and worse from both sides of the aisle *for years now*.

You must have missed all of his criticisms of George Bush's handling of the Jihad threat, for one thing.

And he has criticized Christie's clulessness here before—*including* his "friendship" with the vile Mohammad Qatanani.

"Robert Spencer: Christie capitulates to Islamic supremacists"

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2012/08/robert-spencer-christie-capitulates-to-islamic-supremacists.html

"Hamas-linked CAIR to Christie: Well done, good and faithful servant"

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2011/08/hamas-linked-cair-to-christie-well-done-good-and-faithful-servant.html

Perhaps you should read here more often.

If the First Amendment isn't for potentially blasphemous speech, then it is utterly worthless and meaningless. We are as serious about this concept as he is about his petty and vile religion.

There is no such thing as blasphemy under US law. Imam Qatanani is welcome to say whatever he wants. But if he has the temerity to act upon any of it, he will face stiff opposition from the likes of me. I will not submit to some God damned fool telling us that WE are the ones who are blaspheming his religion.

“We, as Americans, have to put limits and borders [on] freedom of speech,” Qatanani, leader of the Islamic Center of Passaic County (ICPC), told TheBlaze. He explained that while Americans may ”have the freedom“ to speak their mind, ultimately, they “have no right to [talk about Muslim] holy issues“ as it will incite ”hatred or war among people.”

Qatanani just made it crystal clear that he and his fellow Muslims have come to America as invaders, not as immigrants.

On a pair of parametric equivalance scales, it would be hard to determine between whether Guvnor Cris or Imam Qatanani is the most full of crap.

Dear Mohammed Qatanani: Americans would not be in danger at home and abroad if all muslims learn to behave in a civilized manner when true scholarship reveals that Mohammed was indeed a MUDEROUS,THIEVING MISOGYNISTIC DEMON POSSESSED PEDOPHILE!
PS Gov Christie is a disgrace to the office he holds. He is a Quisling of our time.

"The issue of Prophet Muhammad is very delicate – they [Muslims] will not accept in any way, anybody who talks badly about Muhammad." -- headline

Well, why not? ...especially since muhammad's life choices spoke badly about him.

Silly muslims, they're still trying to make a silk purse out of a sow's ear ...mmm, can't be done.

I wonder if Christie is going to try to keep pretending islam is not a threat now?

""Sharia law has nothing to do with this at all. It's crazy. It's crazy," Christie said at a press conference ......"

"Free Speech That Mocks Islam Is National Security Threat"
Do I need to say this?
Well just for the record..:
Silencing Free Speech That Mocks Islam Is National Security Threat.

btw If you want to know the truth just reverse what Islamic spokes say.
Handy tip b75.
hehe.
Well hey we're talkin' Saturday night, right?
I'm off for a beer and and pork chop with lots of mashed spud.
hehe.
Later.

What's your damn point? Look, many conservatives don't "get" Islam but almost all who do are conservative. How many liberals "get" Islam? Your turn if you have the balls.

Hamas-linked CAIR to Christie: Well done, good and faithful servant"

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I'd laugh if I didn't observe that these are the very words of God Incarnate (Jesus Christ) put into the mouths of some of his worst enemies.

"...telling us that WE are the ones who are blaspheming his religion."

Well, we are!

Now, get back out there and keep at it!


Wait a minute, Mr. Imam--I have a couple of questions for you that the interviewer mat have "overlooked:"

You start out saying, "We as Americans, " but you finish the sentence syaing we must curtail our free-speech rights? That doesn't sound like something an American would say? You say that we have no right to talk about (muslim) "issues"--that it will incite hatred and war among people? Where is it specified that we have no right to do that? What "people" will be incited, who will go to war? Against whom?

You say the filmmakers should be taken to court--by our government? On what charge, Mr. Imam? Of what are they guilty? What if what they're saying is true? What "case" does our government have for a non-offense? Please explain?

Mr. Imam, you think our government should step in to prevent artists, composers, entertainers from expressing themselves? Don't you think that almost anything created could be considered "offensive" by someone? Are you saying that only islamically-approved expression should be permitted? All other expression outlawed? That doesn't sound very American, either, Mr. Imam? Are you sure you're one of "us Americans?"

I notice, Mr. Imam, that you refer to the muslims who "don't understand our freedoms" and think "they're too much," as "they." Then you say virtually the same thing again, but refer to yourselves as "we?" Which is it, Mr. Imam, are you "them" or are you "us?" Do you think you can be both? You say that "misunderstanding" is the main reason for the conflict? Are you saying that we Americans should give way to islam? You say it's a "killing issue." Who's doing the killing? Who are the victims? Are they all directly related to the supposed "crime?" Is it OK to kill people because you don't understand them?

Sorry, Mr. Imam, but you've left me most confused! You say you're an American, but then you say we Americans must conduct ourselves by islamic rules, by sharia? Or there will be war? Somehow that sounds seditionist to me?

I have more questions for you, Mr. Imam. But let's clear these up first, OK? Say hi to your pal Governor Christie for me. I'm sure he agrees with everything you said...


If they disagree with the American conception of freedom, why don't they go back to their backwater desert? That mentality is like telling the Chinese people not to eat pork because mohsmmedans are "porkaphobic" (according to them pork is dirty. )

Thus, America should disregard its First Amendment as it is typically applied and instead act in accordance with sharia law for the ultimate “good” of society.
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A lie repeated lots of times, will be believed and becomes the truth. That was one of the Nazis' ideas. Mahoundians follow the same idea and want to intimidate the civilised world. Sharia law is the cancer of this planet and whoever wants to impose it is an enemy of mankind.

As for Christie, I don't think he's a doofus, he's just a fly-by-night politician who doesn't want to take any risks. Don't spoil your chances with Mahoundians.

I was thinking that the French magazine Charlie Heebdo might be a good place you get your drawings published, without bringing unwanted attention to you, personally.

I would argue, epistemology, that Christie is a doofus on the matter of Islam. Another way of putting this is to say that he is guilty of willful ignorance. Doofuses often are. Hope you're well.

The mohammedans should be thankful they are facing the west, not china. If they battle china, the mohammedan world will all be like xinjiang or tibet.

I don't think this article can get enough publicity and attention.

I'm sure that both of my "year of the woman" senators and my clueless "representative", Tom, will be happy to receive a copy.

And I am quite happy to send a copy to each of them.

Dear Islam,

I want a divorce! (And I am sorry to say it's not me, it's you!)

It is clear we can't live together, so there is no point in dragging this pain out. Our goals and what give us happiness is just too different.
So let's divide our stuff. You get custody of all the 'true believers' and I get custody of all the 'infidels' of any kind.
I get free speech and I recommend I also get the Internet! In return you get to never hear or see any evil again.

So long and thanks for all the oil.

Kind regards, The Free World.

Kepha wrote:

Hamas-linked CAIR to Christie: Well done, good and faithful servant"

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I'd laugh if I didn't observe that these are the very words of God Incarnate (Jesus Christ) put into the mouths of some of his worst enemies.
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I believe Robert was fully aware of the provenance of the phrase when he used it, Kepha. I know I laughed—pretty grim humor, but we need what we can find in these dark days.

Hope you are well.

PRCS wrote:

I was thinking that the French magazine Charlie Heebdo might be a good place you get your drawings published, without bringing unwanted attention to you, personally.
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Thanks for thinking of my work, PRCS. Charlie Hebdo is a humor magazine, though—and very gonzo, wacky, in-your-face humor. My style isn't really humorous.

Also, while they've bravely tackled Islam many times, they lampoon all sorts of things, and are "equal opportunity offenders". Of course, only Muslims firebomb their offices.

Charlie Hebdo also has their own staff of cartoonists—Charb, Luz—and they rarely work with anyone but in-house artists.

I love their work, but I'm not sure it would be a good fit.

I'll keep looking for a good outlet, though. Thanks again.

"they [Muslims] will not accept in any way, anybody who talks badly about Muhammad.”...

Muhammad's head was filled with LICE because he was DIRTY!

They (muslims) will have to accept it, it's in their books.

http://crossmuslims.blogspot.com/2011/09/muhammad-s-lice.html

So, Christie the Hut, incarnates the risen devil.....huh! No surprise here.......He's clueless, as I implied before...

Good one JP, brought a wry smile to me on such a deadly serious subject! If only......

Andy, Robert Spencer has been criticizing dhimmitude and worse from both sides of the aisle *for years now*.

True, gravenimage; but Spencer has repeatedly railed against "Leftists" but has never used an epithet similary decrying "conservatives". While many conservatives and Republicans shows good signs of incipient primate intelligence about perceiving the dim light of the problem of Islam, still they are woefully remiss in their duty -- and thus are more guilty than their colleagues across the aisle, who are only doing their Jon-Stewart best as comes naturally to them. Spencer's repeated name-calling against "Leftists" may tend to give the wrong impression that this problem does not cut more deeply than it does, sociopolitically.

Again, the principle is relatively easy to grasp, one would think: With regard to the problem of Islam, Republicans and conservatives are slightly better than Democrats and Leftists, but the former do not thereby absolve themselves of egregious outrageous dereliction of duty just because they happen to be slightly better. Wars are not won by being "slightly better". Shame on them.

“They [Muslims] think our [American] freedoms are too much,” Qatanani said. “The freedom of the American people is so different from their [Muslims'] freedoms. We believe freedoms have limits and rules, otherwise we will get people into trouble…Freedom according to Islam must be according to the Quran and Sunnah. You can do [anything] you like within the teachings of these two resources. This is the difference and main reason [for the conflict].” "The issue of Prophet Muhammad is very delicate – they [Muslims] will not accept in any way, anybody who talks badly about Muhammad.”...

It is great that the movie "innocence of the Muslims" came out and many more such movies and cartoons should come out in the West as soon as possible. Because now comes to the surface where Islamic core laws and rules really conflict with democratic core laws and rules.

This is now given much attention and even many political correct Islam-ignorant, Islam-defending people now defend freedom of speech, even freedom to insult and most people refrain from openly favoring lawful censorship.

Even the mayor of Rotterdam, where I live, which has at least 100.000 Muslims in a population of # 600.000 people, said that publicly Muslims must accept the rule of freedom of speech and that they should react, if they must react, only in a peaceful or positive manner. And he is Ahmed Aboutaleb, a Muslim of the Labour Party!!! I read that among radical Muslims in Holland and Belgium he's now much vilified.

Moreover, since Turkey is more or less democratic with freedom of speech, it seems that Turkish Muslims in Holland often do understand that for non-Muslims freedom of speech even includes the freedom to insult Islam, even Mohammed.

Consequently, many may grumble inside but say that they will just ignore the movie on internet. Although some do notice the number of visitors of this "movie" on youtube passed 10.000.000 visitors of late.

I can imagine that Western democratic states in future ask all Islamic immigrants whether or not they accept the principle of full freedom of speech, including insulting Mohammed, upon entry. And when the answer is negative that immigration-officials recommend refusal to admit.

Would it not be better to definitely clearly define how a full democratic state and a full Islamic state differ in regard to freedom of speech?

And consequently would it not be logical and desirable to ask all pro-censorship-Muslims to reconsider either their stance on freedom of speech or their place of residence and their citizenship?

If a part of the Muslims cannot agree that only Muslims have to abide by shariah-blasphemy-laws and all others have complete freedom of speech, is it not better that these Muslims relocate to countries with Islamic laws?

This site often refers to "misunderstanders" of Islam. Perhaps there are a number of different interpretations of Islam on a number of issues. And perhaps a clear showing of division must in future be asked among Muslims, concerning this freedom-of-speech-issue. And to let that division have consequences on choice of country by them and for them.

Christie was under consideration for VP. But after weighing him in, using a cargo hoist and trucking scale, they determined his weight to be approximately 3.7 Romneys ... making the potential Romney/Christie ticket very bottom heavy.

Apparently Christie's body density has carried over to his brain in matters of islam.

Thank God he is not on the ticket.

:-D Christie the Hut :-D

JP, I like your divorce piece. It should be printed and mailed to all newspapers in 'the muslim world'.

(sudden thought - the muslim world is like a bizarro world where all our values are in reverse)

Chris Christie is a pompous loudmouth bully. Even his own protection patrol of NJ State Troopers hates him. He's not going to win another election.

It is amazing how immature Muslims must be. They can't control their emotions when faced with something hurts their feelings. We could expect this behavior from two year old's, not from adults.

There is currently an exhibit called Piss Christ where Jesus is placed in a bottle of urine. Yet we don't see Christians running around, rioting, murdering and burning buildings down.

The only change we should make in our laws is stop letting Muslims into this country until they can demonstrate maturity and self control. Right now, they are far from it. And will probably never achieve that goal.

My response to this is the same as my message to an apologist on HuffPo today at http://hereticscrusade.com

"..when any human life is placed next to “insulting the ‘Prophet’” a moral human will stamp a picture of Mohammed nude into pig s*&t before they will let a human die; any human, Muslim, non-Muslim, Pagan, gay or straight! Get It?

...There is only one answer to an extortionate thug – it is a two part answer and the second part goes like this, “…and the Horse You Rode In On!

...Face it, you are an instrument of the ‘non-Islam’aphobia’ industry!”"

It is almost hilarious - because he is so genuine!!

Yes, we must give up the US Constitution for Shari'a law on issues of freedom of speech. Obama!!

And Muslims are permitted to follow other laws - but with the agreement - that the state go after those who in anyway insult Islam. Hillary!

And he is right when he says - that our ideas for freedom are very different - which similar things were said about Islamic 'peace' years ago -- we have to come under Islamic rule - first - and then there can be Islamic peace. And likewise Islamic 'freedom' is governed by strict rules on what has or has not been forbidden by the Prophet.

This guy is a real charmer - we should listen by all means!


This does differ slightly from the Left's version of Islam - which includes such concepts as racism - as such there is an anti-racism committee set up to combat disbelief and insults to its version.

It would seem the imam holds to a more rigorous form of Islam - than observed by those on the Left - and wishes to be granted access to the full authority of the state to combat perceived insults to his version.

Small disagreements!!

That can be handled later - when they sit down to talk about Islamic 'peace'!


But for now, as friends of Islam - this man should be featured prominently in all Left-leaning journals - like the LA times and how can we forget the fierce defenders of Islam - Salon!

There should even be a photo op in the White House with Obama!

We need a REAL MAN as predient to say to any party "FREEDOM OF SPEECH IS NOT NEGOTIABLE" Does Obama understand this? No. First action against Jihad is to vote Obama out.

"First action against Jihad is to vote Obama out."

Hear, hear! I second that motion, Sam ...

*NOBAMA 2012*

Another 2012 slogan, Champ:

"There's No Going Barack"

I really don't think these politicians through out the West, who are shilling for islam and the ummah, are either stupid, naive, or uninformed.

They do what they do, *deliberately*; either because they are actively *wanting*to see Western civilisation fall under the islamic foulness, or because they have sold their souls for petro-dollars.

Either way, they are traitorous scum, and we, ordinary decent people, need to get rid.

Christy... Useful Idiot, what more can be said. This is what we get from a man who SHOULD know better, but sold his soul for eight pieces of silver.

"There's No Going Barack"

Good one, LemonLime! ..lol :)

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