Honor killing caught on film

In Egypt. Video thanks to Theodore Shoebat.

Muslims commit 91 percent of honor killings worldwide. A manual of Islamic law certified as a reliable guide to Sunni orthodoxy by Al-Azhar University, the most respected authority in Sunni Islam, says that "retaliation is obligatory against anyone who kills a human being purely intentionally and without right." However, "not subject to retaliation" is "a father or mother (or their fathers or mothers) for killing their offspring, or offspring's offspring." ('Umdat al-Salik o1.1-2). In other words, someone who kills his child incurs no legal penalty under Islamic law.

The Palestinian Authority gives pardons or suspended sentences for honor murders. Iraqi women have asked for tougher sentences for Islamic honor murderers, who get off lightly now. Syria in 2009 scrapped a law limiting the length of sentences for honor killings, but "the new law says a man can still benefit from extenuating circumstances in crimes of passion or honour 'provided he serves a prison term of no less than two years in the case of killing.'" And in 2003 the Jordanian Parliament voted down on Islamic grounds a provision designed to stiffen penalties for honor killings. Al-Jazeera reported that "Islamists and conservatives said the laws violated religious traditions and would destroy families and values."

In light of all this, until authorities get the courage to tell the truth about honor killing, there will be many more such murders.

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Don't call them 'savages' though, or you're an Islamophobe.

if this was an honor murder,and i don't have
any reason to believe it wasn't,may god damn
the perpetrators of this atrocity to hell.every
one of them.

Sick stuff. But not surprising since so is Islam.

Wait! Wait!

Don't say anything that would "hurt" the Muslims' feelings!

Wait!

Criminal islam gang, illustrated, composed, top to bottom, of garbage filth, such as this devil's beast, stabbing and slitting the throat of a fetal position female, not a fighter, not fighting, but totally wounded, dieing, yielding, as a lost prey animal. Not but maybe one or two, of the watching assembled filth risked or sacrificed himself to stop the atrocity. They allowed the assailant to get his carotid slices done, fatally. Classic cowards of waste.

Classic fundamental islam garbage, all but she, and maybe one or two weakly trying to intervene, all are human sewer, outhouse, fecal scum and utter human failures. I hate to use the word human, for them. They certainly are a sub human species.

This is classic eternal emulating of the perfect madman, the asshole maxed out criminal-mohammad-submission example- the absolute core of islam.

Are you proud of yourselves, muslims, to be utterly useless, lost, fully outdated, date chewing, criminals in society, everywhere islam isn't? To be a part of a imaginary "religion" that does in fact allow and encourage this and even far worse? I really don't even care about your answer, just leave it or remain an utter regretably alive, failure.

I just read the website's comments from the submitter. Incredible, always excuses for the ideology, never taking responsiblity for the utter failure of islam to lead to goodness. Here are the main points the submitter of the video made:

Street for 3 hours.
Egypt suffers from post-Mubarak and the collapse of the state

Housewife killed in Hariri's manor in eastern [Egypt?]

MY RESPONSE IS MOST CERTAINLY NOT ANY FAULT OF MUBARAK, FAULT OF THE ASSAILANT AND ALL OTHERS WHO BELIEVE IN ISLAM FARCE, JUST ANOTHER INFINITE EXCUSE FOR THE EXERCISE OF PURE ISLAM, FUNDAMENTAL BASIC ISLAM!

Disgusting. Killing a poor defensless woman. This is EVIL. However, I am not surprise. I am from Turkey and I know in that culture people can prey on the weak any minute for any reason with no remorse. Islam is an excellent excuse for brutality like in this case. We have to fight if we don't want to see this here in America or anywhere else. God this is sick and OBAMA apologizes to these people for a movie made. Unbelievable

There are a lot of misunderstanders of Islam around the world

Islam the religion of peace™

Evil is made possible by the sanction you give it.
Withdraw your sanction"
-- Pamela Geller

http://schnellmann.org/shafia-mass-honor-killing-to-sharia-law.html

Your tax dollars at work...

I have just watched this sickening film of murder on a Cairo street. How hollow are Hilary Clinton's descriptors of the 'Innocence of Muslims' film in comparison to something like this? This is a film you can be genuinely outraged about - but you betcha that champion of the sisterhood Hilary won't be saying a thing.

Though there's a question or two you could put to new Egyptian President Morsi, given he's had plenty to say about the film that 'insults Islam' and what America should do about it etc etc.

On the film posted above you can plainly see the face of the knife wielding murderer of that poor woman, as well as those who aided and abetted - or at least stood there and let him butcher her in the street. So there's a readily identifiable perpetrator at least. So the question is: Mr Morsi, since you've just been elected, are you gonna show that there is a genuine democracy AND rule of law in Egypt and order your police to arrest and BRING THAT MURDERER TO FACE JUSTICE???

Ha! As if!!!

Morsi makes a big, big noise with pompous statements about that other film but not a thing about the disgusting RAPE (yes rape!) and MURDER of the US Ambassador by Morsi's fellow Islamists. You know - the Libyan ones who share the SAME ideology as Morsi and his beloved Ikhwan (Muslim Brotherhood).

But of course we know that the new Egyptian President will do NOTHING of the sort. As he ignores/excuses one murder, he'll certainly ignore the other - besides, what's one more 'honor' killing among the dozens that happen every year in Egypt?

Or the rapes and murders of Coptic Christian women and girls or the many, many other outrages against non-Muslims that have occurred and will continue to occur with even increasing frequency in the Brotherhood's new you-beaut 'Arab Spring' Egypt.

What kind of evil pig films this on a mobile, without doing anything to try to stop it ? A **mohammedan**, of course.

*My God*. And how many people stood by and witnessed this, and did nothing to help this poor woman?

Also, while I don't speak Arabic, it seems plain that the murders yell "Allah" several times in the beginning of the video.

I cried when I watched this. Why is it that it is only Infidels who care about the Muslim victims of Islam? Never mind—I just answered my own question.

Jan wrote:

What kind of evil pig films this on a mobile, without doing anything to try to stop it ? A **mohammedan**, of course.
................................

Under other circumstances, Jan, I might think that someone filmed this so that they could get the word out about an atrocity, even if they couldn't stop it.

But given that that was a Mohammedan, my guess is that he probably just wanted to show it to his buddies who weren't "lucky" enough to be there.

God, I hate Islam.

And perpetually outraged "feminists" are ***SO BUTTON-LIPPED SILENT*** on this!!!!!!!

America wake up!this fecal scum is spreading and soon we will be buried with it.

islam's "morality:" US AGAINST THEM, MIGHT-MAKES-RIGHT, AND BLAME THOSE VICTIMS:

When islame was originally created, it was modeled on the Jews monotheism (whose twelve tribes are never at war with each other) because the pagan Arab tribes were always at war with each other; their so-called culture always was and still is only based on might-makes-right and us-against-them. Muhammad simply codified that nonsense for all time, said god still wanted them to commit those crimes, "but only" against a common enemy: against anyone and everyone who refused to join Muhammad's new islamic war and plunder cult. And of course Muhammad really only set this up to enrich himself, so he'd have an excuse to commit every crime known to man, enthusiastically and often. Needless to say, when not united in common hatred of non-moslems, all moslem Arabs (and moslems in general) still gleefully indulge in waging war on each other.

HONOUR KILLINGS EXPLAINED:

According to the books of such embedded cultural anthropologists as Rapheal Patai's "The Arab Mind" and Carl Salzman's "Culture and Conflict in the Middle East, Arab "culture" (which is codified in the Qur'an) glorifies the tribe over the individual, so each tribe engages in us-versus-them, might-makes-right wars all the time.

The best way to keep your tribal numbers up is to have each man marry four or more wives, which guarantees he will breed four (hopefully male warrior) children each year, while also depriving his enemy's tribes of those same women and warrior-breeding ability.

This is also why they marry their own cousins all the time (so the enemy tribes can't steal their women and potential warrior-children, thus weakening their own tribes) and it's also why they have "honour" killings (because if they can't control even their 'weakest' members, then they will invite attack from other tribes AND they'll have lost those women's warrior kids to their enemies, too!

So if they don't kill their own women, then those women' s actions will eventually get them all killed!

Libtards in the West refuse to see this easy truth, and pretend it's the moslems' "cultural rights" to out-breed and conquer everyone.

PS: Not surprisingly, the only non-Arab or non-moslem, so-called "Christian" countries which also have honour-killings, are all colonies which derive their cultures from Spain - because Spain was violently conquered and enslaved by islam for 780 (for almost 1,000) years, that's why!

FOR SUCH IS THE NATURE OF ISLAM


Islam isn't a 'copy' of Judaism or of Christianity. It's a *hostile* parody...foe-fic.

It takes concepts and figures and deliberately and systematically and very, very consistently inverts or blasphemes them, much as in the Black Mass.

To understand the radical difference between the biblical faiths, on the one hand, and Islam, on the other, read Franz Rosenzweig (who had various very interesting things to say about Islam, which he classified as a subspecies of paganism, that is, as an entirely nonbiblical system - indeed, it is not just 'nonbiblical', it is ANTI-biblical, conceived of in radical opposition or enmity to both Jews and Christians) and read Mark Durie's 'Revelation? Do We Worship The Same God? Jesus, God, Holy Spirit in Christianity and Islam'.

If you can read French, or get someone to translate, read Jacques Ellul, 'Les trois piliers du conformisme', the three pillars of conformity. Ellul makes mincemeat of the idea that there is anything in common between the 'one god' of Islam and the God who is worshipped by Jews and by Christians. That each group has 'one God' whom they believe to be 'the only God' does not allow one to infer any kind of similarity between those deities, or concepts of deity.

Here is a brilliant essay by Spengler, on Muslim violence against women and how it exposes and also derives from Islam's core theopolitical paradigm...which paradigm is radically different from that which informs the TaNaKh and the Gospels.

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/LE25Ak01.html

Wife-beating, sharia, and Western law
By Spengler

Excerpt:

'Nowhere to my knowledge has a Muslim religious authority of standing repudiated wife-beating as specified in Surah 4:32 of the Koran, for to do so would undermine the foundations of Muslim society.

'**By extension, the power of the little sovereign of the family can include the killing of wayward wives and female relations. ** {my emphasis - dda}

'Execution for domestic crimes {which may often be entirely imaginary, manufactured in the perfervid imagination of the murderer/ 'executioner' - dda}, often called "honor killing", is not mentioned in the Koran, but **the practice is so widespread in Muslim countries - the United Nations Population Fund estimates an annual toll of 5,000 - that it is recognized in what we might term Islamic common law.** {my emphasis - dda}."...

There are three very ancient stories in the Hebrew scriptures that, if they took place in modern Islamic communities *today*, would end with the murder of the woman involved, by her male relations, and her burial in a shallow grave...or dumping outside the community, like a dead cat or dog. But in ancient Israel...not.

The story of the rape of Jacob's daughter Dinah by the Canaanite prince Shechem; the story of Tamar's disguising herself as a prostitute to solicit her father-in-law Judah (she had been married to two of his sons, who died; he would not betroth her to the third); and the story of the rape of David's daughter Tamar by her half-brother, Amnon. Both Dinah and David's daughter seem to be viewed as innocent victims; it does not even *occur* to the brothers who find out (to Dinah's brother, or to Tamar's full brother, Absalom) to blame or punish their sister for having been a victim of rape; hillbilly style, blame and *punishment* is meted out upon the rapist in each case (there is collective punishment of the rapist's community, in the story of Dinah; but remember, we are dealing with a very ancient text, from thousands of years ago; what is remarkably 'modern' about it is that *Dinah* is not blamed, or punished for having been raped). Neither Dinah nor Tamar is killed. In the case of Tamar, Judah is ready to burn Tamar for having committed 'fornication'; but when she produces proof that *he* is the father of her unborn child (indeed, it turns out to be twins), he gives way and even declares 'she is more righteous than I' (which suggests that what is happening is this: even if she was posing as a veiled prostitute by the side of the road, it was *his* decision to make use of her...he could always have said 'no'..). She remains part of the tribe and her children are acknowledged as heirs; indeed, one of the twins features in the genealogy of...Jesus.

It's also worth noting, as another 'marker' of the bottomless gulf that divides the Biblical tradition from that of Islam, that as long ago as the 12th century, the great rabbi Moses ben Maimon explicitly forbade marital rape, as you will find if you check the comments to this atlasshrugs thread, where one poster cites David Yerushalmi and extensive passages from the rabbinic tradition:

http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2010/07/sharia-islamic-law-in-new-jersey-court-muslim-husband-rapes-beats-sexually-abuses-wife-judge-sees-no.html

"According to Jewish law, any form of coerced sexual relations between married couples is absolutely forbidden. (Talmud Bavli, Eruvin 100b: Rami b. Hama citing R. Assi further ruled: “A man is forbidden to compel his wife to the [marital] obligation, since it is said in Scripture: ‘Without consent the soul is not good; and he that hurries with his feet sins’” (Prov. 19:2). (Ba’ailei ha-Nefesh, Sha’ar ha-Kedushah; Code of Jewish Law, Hil. De’ot 5:4; Even ha-Ezer 25:2.)" (alas, it took the baptised Gentiles a long, long, long time to catch up with their Elder Brothers, as regards this aspect of human relations; that Consent must be fundamental, that Consent must be real, and free.)

It strikes me that whereas Islam is an honor-shame culture, Judaism even from the beginning was never easy with that paradigm, and steadily developed, over time, a 'truth-falsehood' 'guilt-innocence' paradigm instead. Islam has NOTHING that corresponds to 'Yom Kippur' - as Nonie Darwish makes clear in a very interesting article where she talks about what a revelation it was, when Jewish friends explained to her the meaning of Yom Kippur.

In Islam you lie and pretend and evade responsibility; in Judaism you examine yourself and you *own* what you do or don't do (and Christianity has inherited this habit of humility and of self-critique and personal responsibility).

And all of this explains why 'honor' murders proliferate all over the Ummah, whereas Jews and Christians just don't go in for that kind of thing (Phyllis Chesler has some interesting articles that explain why and how, generally speaking, family viiolence/ the crime passionelle among non-Muslims, differs from the Muslim 'honor' murder).

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